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Monday, June 2nd, 2014, 00:12 UTC
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[02:03:45] acle: I have a 0.27+fixes frontend that doesn't display anything on startup. Neither the console, nor the frontend.log have overt error messages the last message in each notes a new DB connection. Running a second frontend on another host, with a hand compiled checkout of the git tree connects to the same backend and produces the expected display. Any pointers for how to proceed?
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[04:10:59] acle: nick troubled
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[04:29:44] jussim: Anyone else seeing 0.27 frontend connect to a backend but display no top level menu?
[04:35:34] jussim: Anyone else awake?
[04:37:56] sulx: nope
[04:38:13] jussim: sulx ty sir
[04:41:05] sulx: just got to work but not yet awake ;)(
[04:43:48] jussim: killin' time before surgery tomorrow. You UK?
[04:44:39] jussim: Bit keen for a Monday mornin' aren't ya?
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[10:05:25] mattwj2002: good morning all
[10:05:28] mattwj2002: anyone here?
[10:10:11] mattwj2002: grr
[10:10:36] mattwj2002: seriously no one out of 146 is awake and willing to talk?
[10:11:53] stuartm: good morning
[10:12:15] mattwj2002: good morning stuartm
[10:12:16] mattwj2002: :)
[10:12:41] mattwj2002: stuartm: do you have a cable card by chance?
[10:13:03] stuartm: mattwj2002: most of them probably have multiple channels and windows open, so they not only have to be awake they have to be looking at this one :)
[10:13:15] stuartm: mattwj2002: no sorry, not even an option here in the UK
[10:13:24] mattwj2002: oh okay
[10:13:25] mattwj2002: :)
[10:13:34] mattwj2002: you guys have dvb-s though!
[10:13:36] mattwj2002: :D
[10:14:12] mattwj2002: stuartm: do you mind talking with a crazy American? :P
[10:14:18] stuartm: we have DVB-C, DVB-S and DVB-T, but the pay tv services don't allow use of your own hardware
[10:14:36] mattwj2002: oh man that sucks
[10:14:50] mattwj2002: isn't there a lot of free to air stuff though?
[10:14:55] mattwj2002: even on DVB-S?
[10:15:00] stuartm: we do have a LOT of FTA channels though, most of the best ones are free
[10:15:06] mattwj2002: nice
[10:15:31] mattwj2002: I would put up a free to air dish just a Ku
[10:15:39] mattwj2002: if I owned a home
[10:15:46] stuartm: most pay channels these days are just showing endless repeats of old stuff, very little new (good) content
[10:15:47] mattwj2002: I live in an apartment :(
[10:16:01] mattwj2002: seriously?
[10:16:10] mattwj2002: doesn't that seem a little backwards?
[10:16:40] mattwj2002: stuartm: I'll be right back
[10:16:41] stuartm: one or two exceptions, e.g. Sky Atlantic which shows all the HBO content
[10:16:57] mattwj2002: I have to switch laundry
[10:18:09] stuartm: mattwj2002: yeah, it's completely backwards but people still seem willing to pay, I think they like the illusion of choice even if they never watch 95% of the available channels
[10:19:57] stuartm: much better value to watch the good series which don't air on FTA channels through a postal DVD/Bluray subscription or even a streaming service than pay at least five times as much for a Satellite or Cable subscription
[10:20:16] stuartm: but it's hard to convince people of that
[10:23:51] stuartm: even more baffling is why people are prepared to pay that amount and yet still endure adverts, IMHO pay tv should be free of adverts
[10:27:57] mattwj2002: lol
[10:28:10] mattwj2002: we have hulu plus, netflix and amazon prime here in the statesss
[10:28:13] mattwj2002: *states
[10:28:23] mattwj2002: lots of good streaming content out there :)
[10:28:33] mattwj2002: on the cheap
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[10:31:36] mattwj2002: sorry about that
[10:33:18] mattwj2002: stuartm: are you still here?
[10:45:21] stuartm: in and out atm
[10:45:28] mattwj2002: no worries
[10:49:07] mattwj2002: yeah I definitely think I am going to get two cable cards from comcast
[10:49:08] mattwj2002: :)
[10:49:41] mattwj2002: I miss my little dvr !
[10:50:21] mattwj2002: stuartm: comcast recently encrypted all of the clearqam stuff.....so I ended up reusing mythtv box :(
[10:50:29] mattwj2002: *my
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[22:26:15] mattwj2002: hi all
[22:28:29] mattwj2002: I have a serious question if anyone is listening
[22:30:52] mattwj2002: wow I guess not
[22:31:04] mattwj2002: amazing so many people and no one is around
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[22:33:55] mattwj2002: hi jmusits_
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[23:40:37] mattwj2002: anyone here?
[23:42:47] Jay2k1: yeah
[23:43:03] mattwj2002: hey Jay2k1
[23:43:06] Jay2k1: i've also read your previous lines, just that you were already gone
[23:43:17] Jay2k1: even in irc you need some patience :P
[23:43:22] mattwj2002: true
[23:43:30] mattwj2002: well I went and got some supper
[23:43:32] mattwj2002: anywho
[23:44:03] mattwj2002: one of my friends thinks that recording shows digitally off of cable with mythtv is illegal
[23:44:10] mattwj2002: is there any truth in that?
[23:44:42] mattwj2002: I think he is just uninformed :)
[23:45:04] Jay2k1: i'm not a law expert and i guess these things depend on where you live, but as i see it, if you can record it with a good old VCR, why not take this to the 21st century
[23:45:35] mattwj2002: that is what I said
[23:45:40] Jay2k1: uploading recordings to youtube is probably a different thing though :P
[23:45:56] mattwj2002: not the VCR part but I mentioned Windows Media Center and Tivo
[23:46:09] mattwj2002: he is the type of person that likes to disagree with me
[23:46:13] mattwj2002: I don't know he is weird
[23:46:14] mattwj2002: :)
[23:46:51] Jay2k1: i think what mainly bothers the broadcast companies is that you can fast forward commercials
[23:47:14] mattwj2002: you can do that with Tivo....you can do that with Windows Media Center
[23:47:15] mattwj2002: :)
[23:47:23] Jay2k1: but hey, any modern tv can record on a usb disk and lets you time shift
[23:47:25] mattwj2002: or a VCR :P
[23:47:44] Jay2k1: (just that you usually can't copy recordings off said disk)
[23:47:51] mattwj2002: I swear he just like to argue more than anything
[23:48:07] mattwj2002: *likes
[23:48:15] mattwj2002: Jay2k1: one other question for you
[23:48:27] mattwj2002: if you are in the US ... do you have a cable card?
[23:48:55] Jay2k1: i'm not, and i guess i do, i have two DVB-C cards
[23:49:04] mattwj2002: nice
[23:51:15] mattwj2002: Jay2k1: where in the world are you? I live in Minneapolis, MN, USA
[23:51:44] Jay2k1: germland
[23:51:51] mattwj2002: Germany?
[23:51:53] mattwj2002: :P
[23:52:04] Jay2k1: yep
[23:52:16] mattwj2002: nice I hear it is quite beautiful there
[23:53:09] Jay2k1: like everything, it has its pros and cons
[23:53:44] mattwj2002: very true
[23:57:40] Jay2k1: one of the cons being it's 2am now, so good night :P
[23:58:50] mattwj2002: have a good night
[23:58:54] mattwj2002: nice chatting with you
[23:58:55] mattwj2002: bye!
[23:59:21] Jay2k1: bye
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