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| [08:32:08] | SteveGoodey: | Good. No spammers on the wiki this morning. |
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| [08:46:19] | justinh: | gah. media_build won't work. the build script can't apply its patches |
| [08:46:30] | justinh: | gonna have to upgrade the kernel. Again |
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| [09:34:08] | sid3windr: | SteveGoodey: we live in sad times when this is an exceptional day :( |
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| [10:36:30] | djbeirut: | hi.. can i run the mythtv-setup from root? or do i have to login with some other user? i am trying to install mythtv on a headless ubuntu server |
| [10:36:48] | djbeirut: | *mythtv backend |
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| [11:43:54] | djbeirut: | configuring mythtv is one of the hardest things i have tried to do... can anyone help me out here please? |
| [11:46:58] | Jay2k1: | what exactly gives you trouble? |
| [11:50:52] | djbeirut: | i am trying to setip mythtv on headless server. and i want it to get the channels from an m3u playlist. i have no dvb card |
| [11:51:04] | djbeirut: | i am having trouble setting that up. |
| [11:51:12] | Jay2k1: | oh. |
| [11:52:10] | djbeirut: | hehe.. why oh? |
| [11:53:07] | Jay2k1: | i don't know. as far as i know (and i'm by far no expert, just a mythv user and i have linux experience) mythtv is configured via GUI. |
| [11:54:38] | djbeirut: | well i kinda have gui access. and i can run the mythtv-setup. it says something about room not being in a group or something but i ignored that. so i can access the gui. |
| [11:54:50] | djbeirut: | *rrot |
| [11:54:53] | djbeirut: | root |
| [11:55:05] | Jay2k1: | ah ok. |
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| [11:55:31] | Jay2k1: | it's probably not meant to be run as root, but that probably doesn't matter much |
| [11:56:31] | djbeirut: | i am really a linux noob. so i am not sure how to run it as something else |
| [11:57:05] | Jay2k1: | so then your main issue is getting channels from your m3u file into mythtv i guess. what channels are they? i mean, you said you have no dvb card. |
| [11:57:35] | djbeirut: | it's a m3u list i have created for some webstreams that i usually use in vlc |
| [11:58:38] | Jay2k1: | i'm not sure mythtv can record/playback/use web streams |
| [11:59:51] | Jay2k1: | as far as i know, you either have an internal tuner (like a dvb card) or an external tuner (set-top box) which feeds its video signal into the myth box |
| [12:00:18] | djbeirut: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Settin . . . ing_Recorder |
| [12:00:24] | Jay2k1: | oh i see. |
| [12:00:59] | Jay2k1: | so, what happens if you try to follow the steps described there? |
| [12:04:14] | djbeirut: | i just changed the m3u source to another test m3u test that is provided in the guide and it was able to import the channels! |
| [12:05:51] | Jay2k1: | so it basically works and you need to figure out why myth won't accept your m3u file |
| [12:06:20] | djbeirut: | well.. it seems that i need to figure that out now. btw. can i install a windows frontend for the mythtv? |
| [12:06:30] | djbeirut: | coz i only have a backend on my server |
| [12:06:37] | Jay2k1: | hmm, yes and no. |
| [12:06:59] | Jay2k1: | there's no "native" windows frontend. |
| [12:07:34] | Jay2k1: | some guy used to compile myth for windows, so there are binaries out there, but i found that they often are too old for the current myth version |
| [12:07:47] | djbeirut: | i can just use xbmc? |
| [12:08:01] | Jay2k1: | that might work, i once successfully did that. |
| [12:08:40] | Jay2k1: | they do have myth support, but i don't know if they're up to date with the current myth protocol. |
| [12:09:06] | djbeirut: | i will try that.. if i can do that and get it to work with the current list that seems to work on the backend i will try to work on the m3u list |
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| [12:27:37] | djbeirut: | how can i verify that the backend is running as it is supposed to and i can access it from outside the local network? |
| [12:28:57] | Jay2k1: | you're assuming it is always running as it is supposed to, and if you notice it does anything weird you can check the log files |
| [12:29:15] | Jay2k1: | and yes, you can access it from outside if you must |
| [12:31:13] | djbeirut: | i am trying to set it up to be accessed from outside. but i don't know if it is. when i try to connect to it from xbmc it says that it is not able to connect check the network. |
| [12:31:30] | djbeirut: | is it possible to access mythtv from a web browser? |
| [12:32:06] | Jay2k1: | ok first of all, mythbackend has a custom port (i think it is 6543 or something usually) which has to be accessible from wherever you try to access it. |
| [12:32:55] | Jay2k1: | also, you need to set the IP address in mythtv-setup i think, by default it is set to 0.0.0.0, if you wanna access it from other machines it needs to be the real IP address |
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| [12:33:36] | Jay2k1: | see first entry here http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detail . . . ackend_Setup |
| [12:33:50] | djbeirut: | in the general tab from mythtv-setup i changed the ip adress to the public ip address wich is open on all ports |
| [12:34:32] | Jay2k1: | secondly, there's mythweb which is kind of a web interface for mythtv. you can create recording schedules there, browse your recordings, download and/or stream them there |
| [12:34:40] | Jay2k1: | view upcoming recordings |
| [12:35:30] | Jay2k1: | if you can't seem to connect to that external IP on that port, you might try telnetting to that IP and port |
| [12:37:40] | djbeirut: | i tried to telnet to the 6544 and it got refused! :/ |
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| [12:37:59] | Jay2k1: | and 6543? |
| [12:38:07] | djbeirut: | refused too |
| [12:38:16] | djbeirut: | The remote system refused the connection. |
| [12:38:45] | Jay2k1: | that sounds like a firewall. |
| [12:39:07] | djbeirut: | i dob't have a firewall there |
| [12:39:22] | Jay2k1: | is that external IP you have equal to the internal ip (the "real" ip) of that server? |
| [12:39:29] | Jay2k1: | like, is it in a datacenter or something? |
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| [12:39:44] | djbeirut: | it's a hostname.. i can try the real ip |
| [12:39:55] | Jay2k1: | or what i really want to know, is it behind a NAT router? |
| [12:40:03] | djbeirut: | nope |
| [12:40:16] | djbeirut: | it's a public ip directly |
| [12:40:47] | Jay2k1: | can you connect to it on other ports, say, SSH? |
| [12:40:52] | Jay2k1: | (is it a VPS?) |
| [12:41:09] | djbeirut: | yes it is a vps |
| [12:41:13] | djbeirut: | and yes i can telnet |
| [12:41:17] | djbeirut: | ss |
| [12:41:18] | djbeirut: | ssh |
| [12:41:24] | Jay2k1: | hmm ok |
| [12:42:08] | Jay2k1: | so you could try to ssh to your VPS and then try "telnet localhost 6543" |
| [12:42:21] | Jay2k1: | to see if it's a network issue or mythbackend issue |
| [12:42:44] | djbeirut: | Connected to localhost.localdomain. |
| [12:42:44] | djbeirut: | Escape character is '^]'. |
| [12:42:44] | djbeirut: | Connection closed by foreign host. |
| [12:42:56] | Jay2k1: | ok so you can connect from localhost |
| [12:43:20] | djbeirut: | yes but it says connection closed from localhost |
| [12:43:31] | Jay2k1: | that's normal |
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| [12:43:38] | djbeirut: | ok |
| [12:43:49] | Jay2k1: | oh wait it did that for 6544 here, not for 6543 |
| [12:43:56] | Jay2k1: | anyway... try the following |
| [12:44:28] | Jay2k1: | again on the SSH connection: wget -O – localhost:6544 |
| [12:45:07] | djbeirut: | i got some html code back |
| [12:45:10] | Jay2k1: | great |
| [12:45:31] | Jay2k1: | so that works |
| [12:45:50] | djbeirut: | if you say so :P |
| [12:45:51] | Jay2k1: | (the 6544 port gives a little status page in HTML, so you can access it via a browser) |
| [12:46:35] | djbeirut: | i can't access it from the outside on that port |
| [12:47:03] | Jay2k1: | ok, go to the /var/log/ folder |
| [12:47:15] | Jay2k1: | check which are the most recent logs (type ls -lahrt) |
| [12:47:33] | Jay2k1: | probably some of these: syslog, messages, daemon.log |
| [12:47:50] | djbeirut: | syslog |
| [12:47:59] | Jay2k1: | type tail -n 30 syslog |
| [12:48:22] | Jay2k1: | do you see anything that looks like firewall messages? |
| [12:49:47] | djbeirut: | no firewall messages. alot mpegts messages though |
| [12:49:54] | Jay2k1: | hmm i see |
| [12:51:21] | Jay2k1: | phew. |
| [12:51:53] | Jay2k1: | ok, if you want, i can have a look at it myself. you'd need to give me access to the VPS though so it's perfectly fine if you say no |
| [12:52:37] | Jay2k1: | if you say yes however, i'll give you my public SSH key, you put it in the authorized_keys file, and when we're done you delete it again and i can't access it anymore. |
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| [13:49:21] | frankster: | Is it possible to send a url from a smartphone to mythtv? Like youtube remote or chromecast? I've not been able to find much info with google. |
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| [14:32:17] | bill6502: | frankster: something like this?: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_Service#SendAction |
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| [16:45:14] | frankster: | bill6502: sort of I suppose. I had a quick glance at what actions GetActionList returned and I didn't see one that looked like it would launch a URL |
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| [16:53:05] | frankster: | bill6502: not sure how chromecast works – if its a standard protocol or something proprietary |
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| [17:19:58] | wagnerrp: | i would bet on proprietary, with webm video |
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| [17:53:03] | frankster: | wagnerrp: just done a search and I have found some interesting stuff (https://plus.google.com/+LeonNicholls/posts/Md6py81N2Ag, http://fiquett.com/2013/07/chromecast-traffic-sniffing/) |
| [17:53:57] | frankster: | wagnerrp: it seems like it might be possible to make a gateway between chromecast and mythtv, well at least if there is a way to request browsing to a url |
| [17:54:03] | frankster: | could be fun project for when I get back from holiday |
| [17:54:12] | frankster: | see if it works or not |
| [17:54:51] | frankster: | hadn't heard of the DIAL protocol before |
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| [21:10:16] | justinh: | OOOOO! Streaming radio :-D |
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| [21:48:49] | skd5aner: | justinh: in mythmusic? |
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| [22:00:36] | justinh: | from the main menu :-) Maybe mythmusic. |
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| [22:05:19] | justinh: | I wish I could just flick something playing on my laptop to the TV. Like iplayer |
| [22:05:27] | justinh: | the telly has iplayer built in but it sucks |
| [22:08:29] | justinh: | maybe I should try mythnetvision again |
| [22:11:50] | justinh: | man, that mythvideo 'no videos found' message is still disconcerting |
| [22:13:47] | justinh: | a second's worth of "ARGHHH! Where did they all go?!?!?!?!?" almost every time |
| [22:14:24] | justinh: | gosh, mythnetvision on this theme needs some TLC |
| [22:15:22] | skd5aner: | justinh: yea, paul put the streaming stuff in for 0.27 |
| [22:15:32] | skd5aner: | it works really well actually! |
| [22:15:37] | clever: | justinh: the only time ive seen something able to do playback like you want that seamlessly, was with the chromecast stick |
| [22:16:05] | clever: | the android&ps3 youtube/netflix apps can also kind of do it, but only it you open the app on both ends manualy |
| [22:16:13] | justinh: | bleh |
| [22:16:24] | justinh: | my teevee is 'smart' and can have stuff 'sent' to it |
| [22:16:26] | clever: | android youtube/netflix vs chromecast is a bit more seamless |
| [22:16:52] | skd5aner: | justinh: what make of TV? |
| [22:16:59] | justinh: | oh for goodness' sakes. This iplayer stuff is still relying on a mouse click?! |
| [22:17:05] | clever: | my uncle has one of those 'smart' tvs, the android youtube app just says unknown error when you try to send a video to it |
| [22:17:10] | justinh: | somebody needs to go all 3rd party on its ass |
| [22:17:36] | justinh: | skd5aner: Hitachi. Cheapest 42" in the UK. It's actually pretty good, and my standards are fairly high |
| [22:17:48] | skd5aner: | heh |
| [22:18:00] | skd5aner: | I had an old hitatchi tube TV 20 years ago, loved it |
| [22:18:31] | justinh: | one I set it in game mode, turned 'true hdmi black' on.. it's very pretty |
| [22:18:46] | justinh: | it always says the backend is in 1080i mode, but I don't believe it |
| [22:19:52] | justinh: | am I going to have to make an irexec script to move the mouse into the centre of the screen, wait a few millisecs & send a left click? |
| [22:20:44] | skd5aner: | all I know is MNV really needs a lot of love |
| [22:21:25] | justinh: | I'm tempted to have a go making a totally unendorsable plugin |
| [22:21:37] | clever: | my cable box also claims to be 'smart' |
| [22:21:46] | clever: | they advertise being able to push youtube videos to it |
| [22:21:56] | justinh: | I didn't buy it for the smart stuff. I bought it because it was £289.99 |
| [22:22:13] | clever: | ive never seen any of that smart stuff work well |
| [22:22:32] | justinh: | when you get to the iplayer/youtube screens in the TV menus they work well. But getting there.. |
| [22:22:45] | justinh: | oh I need to pick some expert brains BTW. |
| [22:22:55] | clever: | with my cable box, it only works against a certain ios app |
| [22:23:04] | clever: | the same app (by the same company!) on android doesnt work |
| [22:23:07] | justinh: | when the TV is turned off, my backend seems to not want to boot up |
| [22:23:15] | clever: | and its unable to ff/rewind youtube |
| [22:23:34] | justinh: | could that be a bios setting thing? Can't remember ever seeing a 'halt on no display' option |
| [22:23:50] | clever: | ive never seen such a thing either |
| [22:24:04] | clever: | but my windows pc does something diff, if the HDMI input isnt active, it disables it |
| [22:24:04] | justinh: | I think I remember hearing tales of woe about this kind of stuff |
| [22:24:12] | clever: | so you cant enable that output at all |
| [22:24:25] | clever: | you have to set the tv to the right input and reboot the whole desktop |
| [22:25:32] | justinh: | oh this is perculiar to nvidia 8x00 cards apparently |
| [22:25:53] | justinh: | it can supposedly be fixed by fitting 75R terminators to the VGA port. Hahaha. Worth a shot! |
| [22:26:01] | clever: | wtf? lol |
| [22:26:25] | justinh: | how a video card should be able to hold a bus & prevent even a BIOS load though... |
| [22:26:42] | justinh: | like when the TV is connected but powered off the bugger won't even POST |
| [22:32:06] | justinh: | and you know what? after all this time being a non-believer, now I have my own HDTV, set up just about right I can SEE THE POINT |
| [22:32:55] | clever: | yeah, comparing HDTV to the old SDTV recordings from the pvr-150, oh god |
| [22:33:04] | clever: | i dont even bother capturing with that card anymore |
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| [22:35:48] | justinh: | I need to get my HD tuner going soon |
| [22:37:02] | clever: | ive been wanting to capture HD, but with the tv streaming right over my LAN, i dont see the point in getting a tuner/capture device |
| [22:37:12] | clever: | i can capture mpegts right from the NIC |
| [22:38:36] | justinh: | oh yeah that's another thing. I keep storing my mixer settings in alsamixer, but every boot it comes back up, SPDIF is muted. Very annoying. Trying to find a way round that |
| [22:38:58] | clever: | store to a non-standard file, then manualy restore it from rc.local maybe |
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| [22:40:40] | justinh: | mythbuntu doesn't come with a mixer app installed? Heh |
| [22:41:48] | justinh: | oh FFS. Pulseaudio. I might've known |
| [22:41:59] | EvilGuru: | justinh: Pulse actually works nowadays! |
| [22:42:01] | justinh: | why couldn't Pulseaudio just die in a fire? |
| [22:42:32] | EvilGuru: | Raw ALSA/OSS is just exceptionally painful for all too many common use-cases |
| [22:42:43] | justinh: | I never thought so |
| [22:43:00] | justinh: | but then I've always been a one audio setup kinda guy |
| [22:43:13] | justinh: | okay maybe two. Speakers or headphones. Hard wired |
| [22:43:25] | EvilGuru: | Plugging in a USB headset, Bluetooth headset, HDMI/DisplayPort — all painful |
| [22:43:35] | justinh: | not streaming the left speaker to outer mongolia, the right speaker to my bluetooth visor... |
| [22:44:06] | justinh: | right. so how do I tell PUBE audio not to fricking mute SPDIF when it starts? |
| [22:45:33] | EvilGuru: | Set your desired output in the Pulse config (distro GUI, or pavucontrol) to be the digital out |
| [22:45:46] | justinh: | can't find that |
| [22:49:00] | justinh: | someday I'm gonna make apt-get have an alias to always say -y when I'm installing |
| [22:49:23] | justinh: | this will consume an extra 2.5kB of disk space. DO YOU EVEN CARE?! |
| [22:50:05] | EvilGuru: | http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=PulseAudio |
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| [22:50:38] | justinh: | no pavucontrol thinks I have only analog audio |
| [22:51:02] | justinh: | you lot wonder why I have a tendency to hate stuff I know little about. This is why |
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| [22:51:35] | EvilGuru: | Broken chipsets :( This is why we can not have nice things |
| [22:51:42] | justinh: | because you go "ooo, that should do the trick".. and find pretty quickly that it doesn't and it's so opaque you can't find an easy way around it |
| [22:51:48] | justinh: | EvilGuru: alsamixer shows it fine |
| [22:52:12] | justinh: | alsa was nasty. It was terrible. It was EVIL. But IT WORKED |
| [22:52:25] | justinh: | this PUBE audio stuff is just... GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| [22:52:33] | justinh: | show me all the channels I have |
| [22:52:51] | justinh: | just let me be the master of my own ****ing domain, GIT! |
| [22:53:01] | EvilGuru: | ALSA is fine for what it does, but desktop use really does require a soundserver |
| [22:53:21] | justinh: | well I ain't removing PUBEaudio if I can avoid it |
| [22:53:38] | wagnerrp: | EvilGuru: why? |
| [22:54:20] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: For one thing the alternative is to do mixing in the kernel, now that is evil |
| [22:54:36] | wagnerrp: | no, the alternative is to do mixing in the hardware |
| [22:54:51] | wagnerrp: | you only do it in kernel for really cheap hardware |
| [22:55:08] | justinh: | OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. FFS talk about unintuitive |
| [22:55:37] | justinh: | I had to go to 'configuration', then select SPDIF only from a dropdown... THEN I could see the controls for SPDIF |
| [22:55:44] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: As soon as you have to start dealing with sample rate conversion it becomes a nightmare to do in hardware |
| [22:55:49] | justinh: | that's NOT 'show all controls'. Bastards |
| [22:56:11] | wagnerrp: | the only time you have to deal with sample rate conversion is when doing digital audio |
| [22:56:21] | justinh: | that's even worse than having to navigate between pages to set Windows mixer settings |
| [22:56:42] | justinh: | it still needs to go die in a fire & take all its advocates with it |
| [22:57:19] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: It is needed so often, though, and it is hard (even myth will offer to do resampling itself to 48kHz due to the crappiness of pre-Pulse everything else) |
| [22:57:20] | justinh: | hey ho. Maybe that'll have fixed it now anyway. |
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| [22:57:54] | justinh: | if it won't support the samplerate you need, you should buy a new one |
| [22:58:28] | EvilGuru: | justinh: I have Amarok and MythTV open, one wants 48kHz the other 44.1kHz, you need to do SRC |
| [22:58:30] | justinh: | and if you're using odd sample rates it's your own fault :P |
| [22:59:01] | justinh: | odd use cases, desktop users of mythtv :-) |
| [22:59:24] | EvilGuru: | Desktop video streaming + audio player, or streaming + Skype, etc, etc |
| [22:59:29] | justinh: | anyway.. just gimme a bloody traditional volume mixer showing me all the ins & outs.. none of that other rubbish |
| [22:59:50] | justinh: | it's just weird being confronted with a new install where there's no such thing |
| [23:00:07] | EvilGuru: | I did have an old creative card that did hardware remixing and would convert everything to 44.1kHz; except it did a poor job |
| [23:00:10] | EvilGuru: | *48kHz |
| [23:00:20] | justinh: | SBLive! ? |
| [23:00:26] | EvilGuru: | Audigy 2 |
| [23:00:35] | justinh: | heh. I had one of those too |
| [23:00:47] | justinh: | supposedly junk but to my ears it sounded OK |
| [23:00:51] | EvilGuru: | Could comfortably ABX between it and the decent speex SRC code |
| [23:01:25] | justinh: | maybe it was just awful in linux |
| [23:02:18] | justinh: | I was trying to convert my dad inlaw's laptop to linux mint today. Except the wifi wouldn't work for love nor money |
| [23:02:24] | EvilGuru: | In the time of dmix its Linux support was fantastic, I never had issues with multiple streams |
| [23:04:20] | justinh: | poor old chap is still running XP, and it was painfully slow. So I uninstalled all the Windows Live stuff – and it was fun again. WTH |
| [23:05:13] | justinh: | yeah I'm always going on about how linux isn't for FUN or creative uses.. and bad sound handling – or functional but very basic handling was all we had for a long time |
| [23:05:55] | justinh: | I just wish they'd get the basics right. A volume control app shouldn't take 15 minutes to figure out |
| [23:06:05] | EvilGuru: | Pulse got a bad reputation because a certain distribution decided to ship it before it was ready, do a poor job, and break everyone's audio in the process |
| [23:06:55] | justinh: | I don't really care a damn WHAT it is or how it works, so long as it does & it allows me to control it |
| [23:08:04] | justinh: | so if I wanted to use pulse, will mythfrontend ever use it? |
| [23:08:20] | justinh: | and will it actually work if I want to pass surround audio out? |
| [23:08:23] | EvilGuru: | Just select Pulse:default as the audio device |
| [23:08:59] | justinh: | is all the ALSA:stuff just emulated then? |
| [23:09:13] | EvilGuru: | Not sure about passthrough, Pulse supports it (see above link w.r.t to XBMC) not sure if myth does |
| [23:09:27] | EvilGuru: | The ALSA stuff will be real but Pulse might have an exclusive lock on the hardware |
| [23:10:02] | EvilGuru: | At least in the UK there is almost no benefit to passthrough as all 5.1 stuff is AAC |
| [23:10:14] | EvilGuru: | *broadcast 5.1 |
| [23:10:39] | justinh: | time to see if my RX-V350 can deal |
| [23:11:05] | justinh: | hahaha no |
| [23:11:25] | justinh: | whoah. AV receivers got cheaper though. LOTS |
| [23:11:35] | EvilGuru: | Yeah only DTS and AC-3 through S/P-DIF, and HDMI supports LPCM |
| [23:12:04] | justinh: | that's all BS IMHO. As if the physical interface can't support a higher bitrate LOL |
| [23:12:40] | justinh: | Coaxial.. phonos are still good for tens of MHz |
| [23:12:46] | EvilGuru: | The optical interconnect is crappy, though |
| [23:13:03] | EvilGuru: | But it will do 2Ch 192kHz 24-bit; should be good for EAC-3 |
| [23:13:12] | wagnerrp: | SPDIF is only rated for ~2Mbps |
| [23:13:24] | justinh: | SPDIF the protocol |
| [23:13:49] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: I get closer to 9Mbit/s (192e3*2*24/1024^2) |
| [23:13:56] | justinh: | 192khz.. I find that hilarious too |
| [23:14:05] | justinh: | got bats? |
| [23:14:18] | wagnerrp: | meaning 2ch 48kHz 16-bit |
| [23:14:36] | wagnerrp: | ditto with 24-bit |
| [23:15:14] | justinh: | whoah. buying an AV receiver is actually a better proposition than a remote controlled HDMI switch |
| [23:15:43] | justinh: | £169 buys a yamaha something 375.. 4 HDMI inputs.. and it's an AV receiver to boot. Heh |
| [23:16:28] | EvilGuru: | Yep, and that will support all of the goodness over HDMI |
| [23:16:58] | wagnerrp: | (inaudible) goodness |
| [23:17:12] | justinh: | telly doesn't have ARC. I can deal with that |
| [23:17:28] | wagnerrp: | ARC is mighty flaky |
| [23:17:40] | justinh: | it does have coaxial out though.. and you can select whether it's raw or compressed |
| [23:17:42] | wagnerrp: | either it works, or you basically have to powercycle the whole lot to get it to "resync" |
| [23:17:54] | justinh: | sounds like fun |
| [23:18:23] | justinh: | oh yeah.. cos it's still gotta be handshaked & all that stuff |
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| [23:20:39] | justinh: | I dunno if I'm gonna bother with surround or not yet |
| [23:21:32] | justinh: | the AV amp is coming back in the house, I know that much |
| [23:22:19] | justinh: | the kids are starting to love music, and I'll be teaching them to appreciate good sound if I can. Kids today.. they need some BASS in their lives |
| [23:22:49] | justinh: | less vertical video, more <500Hz |
| [23:28:56] | clever: | :D |
| [23:30:57] | wagnerrp: | vertical video? |
| [23:31:08] | wagnerrp: | you mean portrait, vs. landscape? |
| [23:31:47] | justinh: | portrait video... so so so so so wrong |
| [23:33:46] | clever: | ever seen the PSA on verticle video? |
| [23:35:24] | justinh: | PSA? |
| [23:35:31] | clever: | public service announcement |
| [23:37:32] | clever: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA |
| [23:38:35] | justinh: | mwahahaha |
| [23:38:40] | clever: | yep |
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