| Friday, May 9th, 2014, 00:14 UTC | ||
| [00:14:44] | k-man: | what CEC features does mythtv .27 support? |
| [00:15:07] | skd5aner: | very basic stuff as I'm told |
| [00:15:12] | skd5aner: | power maybe |
| [00:15:18] | skd5aner: | think the wiki talks about it |
| [00:15:32] | k-man: | i thought it was non existant more or less, but it seems to respond to the up/down arrow keys on my TVs remote |
| [00:15:46] | k-man: | only just discovered that, so i need to investigate a bit further |
| [00:17:02] | k-man: | https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11338 |
| [00:17:23] | k-man: | i only noticed it after updating mythtv a few days ago – maybe it has incorporated some new features |
| [00:43:17] | Cubber: | I am trying to get a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1950 working, it is a USB tv tuner card. When I plug in the card to the usb port it is recoginized, however the pvrusb2 module does not load. If I load it manually it picks up the card but the firmware load is never initiated. http://pastebin.com/Qri699WP |
| [00:43:27] | Cubber: | Most issues I read about talk about firmware failing to load, this is different since there is no hint of the word "firmware" anywhere in dmesg after plugging in the device. |
| [00:43:54] | Cubber: | OS is Gentoo, very reciently updated |
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| [00:46:34] | Cubber: | kernel is 3.12.13-gentoo and I have the required firmware in /lib/firmware |
| [00:48:10] | k-man: | Cubber, are you sure its the correct firmware for that card? |
| [00:48:39] | Cubber: | I downloaded the drivers and did the firmware extraction process outlined at the pvrusb2 website using their provided script |
| [00:48:58] | Cubber: | v4l-pvrusb2–73xxx-01.fw |
| [00:49:24] | Cubber: | v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw and v4l-cx25840.fw |
| [00:54:38] | k-man: | i'm not sure but i suggest you confirm based on the usb vendor/produt ids that its the correct device |
| [00:55:54] | Cubber: | Ok thanks for the tip, I will do some more investigating |
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| [01:37:20] | kichigai: | Evening all. Can anyone help me with an upgrade? |
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| [10:52:54] | dj_beirut: | Hi.. i am thinking about switching from tvheadend to mythtv. i just want to know if it is possible to connect web streams as channels in mythtv? |
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| [10:57:00] | dekarl-work: | dj_beirut: it depends on the kind of web stream and if you have guide data, here's an example for Apple style HTTP Live Streams http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Settin . . . ing_Recorder |
| [11:02:12] | dj_beirut: | ok.. does mythtv follow redirects? |
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| [11:05:46] | dekarl-work: | I'm not sure what you want to know, does this answer the question? We fixed a bug in our HTTP Client, see https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11218 |
| [11:09:11] | dj_beirut: | it seems like they had a redirect issue that they have fixed :) |
| [11:09:27] | dj_beirut: | that is a sign that it actually follows a redirect url. |
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| [12:18:34] | dj_beirut: | I want to install mythtv on a ubuntu server. it's a remove server that i only have ssh access to. the server does not have a screen so it's just terminal. how can i install it? i keep getting errors |
| [12:18:49] | dj_beirut: | like: mythtv-frontend : Depends: transcode but it is not installable |
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| [12:22:31] | dekarl-work: | dj_beirut: you can usually run mythtv-setup over X11 over SSH, use "ssh -Y user@server" to connect |
| [12:22:56] | dekarl-work: | not sure whare "Depends: x but it is not installable" means |
| [12:23:03] | dekarl-work: | s/whare/what/ |
| [12:23:51] | dj_beirut: | mythtv-setup |
| [12:23:51] | dj_beirut: | xprop: unable to open display '' |
| [12:23:51] | dj_beirut: | error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment. |
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| [12:25:22] | dekarl-work: | that is with ssh -Y? |
| [12:26:19] | dj_beirut: | do i have to install xorg? |
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| [12:42:39] | dj_beirut: | I am really having trouble to find info here. I need to install mythtv as a backend dvr for use with xbmc. i wanted installed on my ubuntu server that i only have terminal access to. is there any guide i can follow? |
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| [12:56:02] | dekarl-work: | dj_beirut: basically add the mythbuntu ppa with the nighly fixes/0.27 packages |
| [12:56:07] | dekarl-work: | then add mythtv-backend |
| [12:56:43] | dekarl-work: | yes, you do need to install the X11 libraries. You do not need a local X Server on your server though |
| [12:57:29] | dj_beirut: | i have never used linux before so i am totally new to this :/ |
| [12:59:12] | dj_beirut: | it would be nice to have a guide or something to follow. all i have a ubuntu server with terminal access |
| [12:59:43] | dekarl-work: | dj_beirut: hmm, maybe folks over at #ubuntu-mythtv can point you in the right direction. All I could find is http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu |
| [13:00:03] | dekarl-work: | but that starts with "klick this link in the browser" |
| [13:00:31] | dj_beirut: | yeah.. i have seen that one. and i can't use that one |
| [13:01:20] | dekarl-work: | http://askubuntu.com/questions/201435/how-do- . . . dless-server might be of use |
| [13:01:54] | dekarl-work: | but only for the "add the repository" part |
| [13:02:39] | dj_beirut: | i have already added the repo. but don't know what to install and how to configure from terminal |
| [13:06:17] | dekarl-work: | superm1: tgm4883 ^- do you know if there is a guide for headless mythbuntu backend setup somewhere? |
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| [14:36:07] | superm1: | Should probably just be apt get install everything and then x forward |
| [14:36:19] | superm1: | Or run xvnc |
| [14:36:39] | superm1: | Don't know of a guide though |
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| [14:37:32] | superm1: | You can install mythbuntu control center and install stuff from that |
| [14:37:51] | superm1: | But you might run into problems if you don't have policy kit |
| [14:38:00] | superm1: | Or logind |
| [14:38:37] | superm1: | If possible is recommend just install with x and configure x to not start after you have configured it |
| [14:39:32] | dekarl-work: | dj_beirut: -^ |
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| [14:42:20] | dj_beirut: | superm1 i am not sure what you are talking about. install with x can you explain that? |
| [14:42:39] | superm1: | Install from DVD |
| [14:42:48] | superm1: | It would be an easier approach |
| [14:43:03] | superm1: | And then just remove or prevent lightdm from starting |
| [14:44:10] | dj_beirut: | i don't have physical access to the machine. it has to be done via ssh |
| [14:44:25] | wagnerrp: | that doesn't make sense |
| [14:44:39] | wagnerrp: | do you really not have physical access? or do you just not have a monitor/video card in it? |
| [14:45:37] | dj_beirut: | i don't have a monitor and i do not have physical access. the box is located in another city. |
| [14:46:04] | wagnerrp: | in any case, mythbackend will not even run without the minimum xorg libraries necessary for mythtv-setup to access a remote X server |
| [14:46:24] | dj_beirut: | apt-get install xorg |
| [14:46:27] | dj_beirut: | i can do that |
| [14:46:33] | dj_beirut: | what more do i need? |
| [14:46:36] | wagnerrp: | you don't need all of xorg, just the core libraries |
| [14:46:54] | wagnerrp: | and those should automatically get pulled in when you install any mythtv package |
| [14:47:21] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: Are there still plans to migrate to a web-based mythtv setup at some unspecified point in the future? |
| [14:47:55] | wagnerrp: | there are, when that will eventually happen.... no one knows |
| [14:48:52] | wagnerrp: | dj_beirut: remote backends are an iffy proposition. you actually have enough upload where the backend is installed to stream it back to you in real time? |
| [14:49:14] | dj_beirut: | i am already using tvheadend on this box. but i want to move to mythtv because i want the some web streams to be a part of the channels. i heard mythtv can do so. like from m3u list |
| [14:49:45] | dj_beirut: | i got 120 Mbit |
| [14:49:51] | wagnerrp: | upload? |
| [14:50:00] | dj_beirut: | yeah both ways |
| [14:50:19] | wagnerrp: | 120mbps symmetric? where do you live, so i can move there? |
| [14:50:22] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [14:50:33] | dj_beirut: | hahaha.. norway. |
| [14:50:48] | EvilGuru: | wagnerrp: A friend of mine in Paris has symmetric 1gbit/s, but gets ~330mbit/s 'actual' |
| [14:53:22] | wagnerrp: | well that alleviates the other issue too, remote X over a slow internet link being painful |
| [14:53:46] | dj_beirut: | that is not an issue for me ;) |
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| [15:09:08] | justinh: | and now to the fun of upgrading the backend/frontend |
| [15:09:29] | justinh: | drop database, recreate database, import old database, upgrade database schema... |
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| [15:10:37] | EvilGuru: | justinh: From/to? I need at some point this week to go 0.25 to 0.27 |
| [15:10:55] | EvilGuru: | Am hoping it will 'just work' |
| [15:11:04] | justinh: | I'm going the same way |
| [15:11:23] | justinh: | I have little choice.. but I'm going AITCH-DEE |
| [15:12:58] | justinh: | time will tell whether this August DVB-T2 USB tuner will be reliable enough |
| [15:13:10] | EvilGuru: | I was Freesat HD until my tuner died and so last week unboxed my three year old 290e and that did 'just work' |
| [15:15:06] | justinh: | hmm this nvidia card doesn't have its own audio |
| [15:15:26] | EvilGuru: | It probably has a S/P-DIF input header |
| [15:16:03] | justinh: | yeah I hooked that up |
| [15:16:11] | justinh: | but how the heck do I tell which alsa device it is? |
| [15:16:49] | EvilGuru: | I converted to the dark side and let Pulse handle that nonsense, just select 'Digital out' |
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| [15:35:58] | justinh: | whee working |
| [15:36:17] | justinh: | I only had one end of the spdif wire connected LOL |
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| [15:38:51] | justinh: | I think I need a new video card though. I think the best mythfrontend tells me I can get is 2.0 from the spdif |
| [15:38:58] | justinh: | but that doesn't seem right to me |
| [15:39:18] | justinh: | 5.1 will do |
| [15:40:08] | justinh: | but UGH.. SDTV looks like crap – it actually looks better when the TV plays SD recordings through DLNA |
| [15:40:22] | EvilGuru: | I think you can force it to bitstream AC-3, although it is not really used |
| [15:40:49] | justinh: | depends whether the TV supports that or not |
| [15:40:52] | EvilGuru: | All the 5.1 stuff I have seen has been AAC as opposed to AC-3 |
| [15:41:03] | justinh: | oh this is an 8600 card. so what can that do? |
| [15:41:39] | justinh: | oops 8400 |
| [15:42:00] | EvilGuru: | Can that even handle proper deinterlacing of 1080i? |
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| [15:42:03] | justinh: | temporal 1x deinterlacing |
| [15:42:17] | justinh: | that ought to be better than the TV's own anyway |
| [15:42:37] | justinh: | I had to put the telly in 'game' mode to get rid of the motion blur.. damn stupid denoising |
| [15:43:22] | justinh: | 5.1 will have to come soon. I'm getting my AV receiver out over the weekend |
| [15:43:42] | EvilGuru: | The analogue outputs on the motherboard will almost certainly do |
| [15:44:14] | justinh: | no they won't. I've not got enough cables :-P |
| [15:44:30] | justinh: | gah this is dropping frames all over |
| [15:45:09] | EvilGuru: | Get one of the new GT 640 cards (Kepler, not Fermi) |
| [15:46:55] | EvilGuru: | Or anything based around GK208; very low power but very high FLOPs |
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| [15:48:33] | justinh: | must say I'm impressed with the speed of this |
| [15:48:47] | justinh: | trying the setup wizard at the mo |
| [15:49:39] | justinh: | I was fuming the other night.. mounted the TV no problem.. but went to route cables in the dot & dab wall.. plenty of room at the bottom for cables.. but only 4mm gap at the top between the plasterboard & the blocks behind |
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| [15:51:08] | justinh: | looks like I'll be using opengl high quality then |
| [15:51:26] | justinh: | this'll be enough to get me working anyway |
| [15:51:45] | EvilGuru: | Does that not mean software decoding? |
| [15:52:39] | SteveGoodey: | justinh: dot and dab is handy for that. |
| [15:53:07] | justinh: | I was tempted to rake out a channel for the cabling but thought better of it. kids. wet plaster... |
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| [15:55:18] | justinh: | install dropbox, retreive my new remote config files... |
| [16:00:46] | SteveGoodey: | I've managed to use a weight and string to get cables through but it's very hit and miss, mostly miss. |
| [16:17:43] | justinh: | that's ok if you have enough of a gap to get wires through |
| [16:17:56] | justinh: | I was tempted to snip the HDMI cable & rejoin it later, but no |
| [16:28:44] | justinh: | yay VDPAU slim works ok :-) |
| [16:29:07] | justinh: | looks WAYYYYYYYYYYY better than opengl too |
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| [17:32:40] | justinh: | oh, no CIFS shares yet |
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| [18:42:00] | justinh: | yay for vdpau deinterlacing too :-D |
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| [18:42:12] | justinh: | so it's only 1x.. but it's no worse than the TV |
| [18:42:39] | justinh: | if I was that bothered about picture quality I'd have bought a more expensive telly |
| [18:42:48] | justinh: | but since I don't watch much... |
| [18:44:26] | justinh: | I'll be building kernel modules later.. to bring my dvb-t2 tuner to life, then adding HD channels. So maybe then I'll watch more |
| [18:46:09] | EvilGuru: | I am still waiting for Film4 to shift over to FTA HD |
| [18:47:03] | EvilGuru: | Although the last HD program I recorded came in at 2.6GiB for an hour, that's less than I used to get for SDTV |
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| [19:36:46] | justinh: | ah nuts. I forgot to copy over the PHP remote web app I made |
| [19:42:51] | justinh: | and that's just great. The overpowering 'big light' in the lounge interferes with the IR receiver |
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| [19:50:24] | justinh: | unless it's in my dropbox somewhere... |
| [20:01:07] | justinh: | BTW anybody had experience of network controlling a TV? Just wondering, since there's no way the remote app works when the set is in standby, whether anyone has tried a WoL packet.. |
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| [20:43:28] | justinh: | heheh unsecured mythweb? good job I realised so quickly |
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| [21:56:08] | justinh: | oh, we like the new version of the mythbuntu theme |
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