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Zenther:

Hello, I have my movie metadata however the coverart is not showing in mythtv. Where should I look? folder permissions?

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[R]:

as i told you lsat night

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[R]:

Apr 26 20:24:05 <[R]> there is a wiki page on the cover art

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Zenther:

I cannot find the right one evidently

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[R]:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Enhancing_Recordin . . . adata_Lookup

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Zenther:

Thanks, I will read and look into it

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Zenther:

didn't see anything, if I hit w key then enter on each one, it will suddenly show up, but I have to do that for each one and I have 1700 movies, is there an easier way?

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[R]:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_Library

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wagnerrp:

you can run the batch updater, as described on that wiki page

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wagnerrp:

which will basically do the same thing as hitting 'w'

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Zenther:

This one: mythmetadatalookup --refresh-all-artwork ??

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wagnerrp:

no, wrong page

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k-man:

what universal remotes do you guys use?

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[R]:

harmony

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k-man:

i'm looking for a new remote – appart from harmony because I hate those

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[R]:

you hate awesomeness?

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[R]:

ok...

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k-man:

[R], your definition of awesomeness is clearly different from mine

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[R]:

lol

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k-man:

i've tried harmoney – it sucked big time imho

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[R]:

if you say so

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wagnerrp:

they work great... they're a nightmare to configure

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wagnerrp:

god awful web application

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[R]:

just like ron popeil

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[R]:

set it and forget it

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k-man:

half second response times for key presses, dumb web interface thats shite for programming it. constantly getting out of sync with my equipment and having to go through the painful process to get it all in sync again

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[R]:

i've been using mine for years, and i've never had to touch its configuration

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[R]:

and the web thing sucks

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[R]:

there is a windows program much better

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k-man:

I would quite like something like this, but the pricing is rediculous: http://www.rticorp.com/products/wireless-inte . . . troller.html

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[R]:

that looks awful

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k-man:

what looks aweful about it?

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[R]:

its ugly and boxy

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[R]:

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Advanced-Unive . . . p/B005FO43OU

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[R]:

that one sexy beast

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k-man:

why do you need a screen on a remote?

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[R]:

cuz its sexy

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[R]:

its touch buttons

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k-man:

terrible idea – you can't find the right button without having to look at the remote

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ctmjr:

and it lights up when you touch it

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[R]:

lol

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[R]:

that's what she said

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k-man:

speaking of ugly remotes – this company makes the most ugly remotes I have ever seen: http://www.universalremote.com/product_detail . . . p=URC-RFS200

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[R]:

haha

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k-man:

which is a shame because i think they have potential

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k-man:

this one doesn't look too bad: http://www.universalremote.com/product_detail . . . amp;p=MX-890

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k-man:

i had thought CEC would be the answer to all my problems but it just isn't *sigh*

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[R]:

http://www.amazon.com/Radioshack-15-2138-Kame . . . _product_top

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[R]:

i have that remote too

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[R]:

its pretty cool

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Bray90820:

Would i need to have an hdcp capable video card for mythtv?

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Bray90820:

Anyone around?

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bray90820:

Anyone around

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bray90820:

Can someone help me i configure the mythtv backend then when i click finish it restarts

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Bray90820:

Anyone around

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Bray90820:

?

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Bray90820:

Anyone around

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niobos:

yes, but I'm not sure if I can help

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Bray90820:

niobos: every time i try to run a fresh install of mythtv the database setup enters a reboot loop

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niobos:

reboot as in the setup restarts from the beginning? or as in your entire computer reboots?

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Bray90820:

setup restarts

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Bray90820:

niobos:

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niobos:

I have no experience with that, so I'm going to ask standard stupid debug-questions from here on. I'm not sure if they're of much use

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niobos:

does it give an error?

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niobos:

did you try to increase verbosity to see what it's complaining about

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Bray90820:

It does not

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Bray90820:

niobos: it does not

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k-man:

what do you need to restart if you modified lircrc, for the changes to take effect?

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wagnerrp_:

Bray90820: mythtv has no database setup. just a file that you redirect into the mysql client

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wagnerrp:

any behavior beyond that is the responsibility of your distro's packages, so you will need to be specific

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wagnerrp:

wait, are you talking about the database configuration within mythtv-setup, where you tell mythtv the location of the database?

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wagnerrp:

if that loops, it means it cannot access the database, and is requesting the proper credentialas

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sphery:

k-man: if ony lircrc, then mythfrontend (and any other LIRC clients)... If lircd.conf, then lircd + all LIRC clients

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k-man:

thanks sphery

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tpowa:

hi, i have a mythweb problem with downloading files and asx, i get file does not exist error

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tgm4883:

Bray90820: Do you mean when you go into mythtv-seup?

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: yes

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Bray90820:

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justinh:

looking around my old webspace, which is surprisingly still up.. found my old opengl painter hackings. Heh

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justinh:

wonder how much effort it would be to make lists scroll smoothly. Starting to get that itch again

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Bray90820:

Can someone help me completely remove mythtv and all it's components

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ctmjr:

how did you install it

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justinh:

FWIW if you're trying to fix anything don't bother uninstalling it

[22:04:12]

Bray90820:

I installed it through git then I used the mythbuntu control center to install mythweb and the update repositories

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Bray90820:

justinh: I am having a bunch of errors and i don't wanna screw anything else up on my sistem so i am gonna remove it and try it out in a VM

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tgm4883:

You installed what from git?

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Bray90820:

mythtv

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tgm4883:

Why

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justinh:

trying it in a VM is likely to be disappointing

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Bray90820:

justinh: i am just trying it out to know how to set it up before i install it on my real system

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tgm4883:

Bray90820: why did you install from git. What are you trying to accomplish with that?

[22:07:35]

Bray90820:

tgm4883: i am just trying to install it and properly set it up

[22:08:02]

tgm4883:

Yes, but why from git and not the packages?

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justinh:

if you install it from git you must install *all* of it from git

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justinh:

otherwise you'll end up with mixed versions, and bad things will ensue

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Bray90820:

justinh: do you mean from the tar.gz from the website

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** ctmjr wonders where mythbuntu control centre came into play did not know mythbuntu has a git repository **

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tgm4883:

Our only git repos are for the theme and the packaging files

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Bray90820:

Well then i have no idea what i did

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tgm4883:

Bray90820: neither do we

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Bray90820:

How would i just remove everything related to mythtv from my system

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justinh:

apt-get remove --purge mythtv* for starters, then if you compiled mythtv yourself, look for mythtv binaries & libraries in /usr/ & /usr/local – then delete em

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tgm4883:

I can tell you one thing though. It's not a good sign that i recognize your nick as one that screw's up his installation a lot

[22:11:22]

justinh:

but be aware you could easily get things in a state where not even installing packages will help later on

[22:11:37]

Bray90820:

tgm4883: I just want to properly use mythtv

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tgm4883:

Which iirc I've help you set up before

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justinh:

if at first you don't succeed, try, try try & try again... and then give up & do something else

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_abbenormal:

never give up

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justinh:

no, some people *should* give up

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Bray90820:

right now i am using windows media center on another machene but it's no longer in active development

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tgm4883:

You have gone beyond just wanting to setup MythTV, you seem to go out of your way to break things

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justinh:

so? if it works, continue using it

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justinh:

my mythtv system is still on 0.25 :-P Until a few days or so from now & I'm gonna be all mythbunu. Yeah in spite of myself

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Bray90820:

justinh: come windows 9 there will be no such thing as windows media center so i will have to switch

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justinh:

no you won't

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justinh:

any more than I *have* to switch to 14.04

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Bray90820:

Well i won't be able to use something that isn't there

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justinh:

you will if you don't update the DVR machine to windows 9

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Bray90820:

But then i will not have the features of windows 9

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justinh:

so? who's gonna miss them? I'm never willingly going to update my machine to 8

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Bray90820:

But i am gettting an error when i am trying to purge mythtv

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Bray90820:

And i am getting an error when i am

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justinh:

not unless you can totally disable that stupid Metro thing

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Bray90820:

http://pastebin.com/SkXF5jE9

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ctmjr:

use to compile mythtv then one day put mythbuntu frontend on a revo 3700 was done and watching recordings in maybe 20 minutes now everyting is mythbuntu

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Bray90820:

eventually windows 7/8 will stop being supported by microsoft then i will have to update

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justinh:

Bray90820: oh goody you found an edge case in the packaging of mythweb. Well done

[22:17:20]

Bray90820:

what is an edge case

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justinh:

it means something nobody could account for ahead of time because it's a crazy idea

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justinh:

i.e. compile mythtv yourself but install mythweb from a package

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tgm4883:

justinh: it's something I'm going to fix soon

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Bray90820:

how would i fix it

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tgm4883:

It's not an edge case, it's a new bug

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tgm4883:

Give me 10 minutes and I'll tell you how to fix it

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justinh:

ah well.. still.. user does something crazy, finds problem ;-)

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: i want to remove it

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justinh:

removing it won't solve any problems you're having

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ctmjr:

tgm4883: well see there he found a bug for you unless you already knew about it

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Bray90820:

And then once i remove mythtv i want to know how to properly get started with mythtv

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justinh:

Bray90820: and I'll say again.. removing mythtv will not solve the problem

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Bray90820:

justinh: it will remove mythtv

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justinh:

it will not solve the problem

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Bray90820:

why not

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justinh:

because you'll still be completely unable to follow very simple instructions & you'll mess it all up again & get helpful people in here frustrated. Again

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Bray90820:

justinh: that's why i will use a VM and not need to ues this channel

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ctmjr:

if you compiled mythtv you should know about make uninstall and make clean or did you just copy and paste

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Bray90820:

ctmjr: i did

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tgm4883:

ctmjr: nah, we new about that already

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Bray90820:

that's why i am going to look for proper instructions

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tgm4883:

I thought superm1 was going to fix it

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justinh:

Bray90820: since you've been messing with mythtv off & on since 2010, you should have some kind of idea how to do it properly by now, jees

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Bray90820:

actually no it was only a year ago

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Bray90820:

justinh: i never really ever found proper instructions

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justinh:

and even that. Seriously. Use something else

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Bray90820:

You don't need to yell at me i am just trying it out to see if i can get it working

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tgm4883:

Bray90820: proper instuctions would include telling you to use packages and sending you to our Mythbuntu guide

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tgm4883:

which I'm pretty sure I did

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: i don't think i ever asked you for instructions

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tgm4883:

Bray90820: I'm pretty sure I've helped you in the past

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: i think all you id was help me with errors i was already having

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justinh:

mythtv isn't quite *simple* to set up, but it certainly isn't rocket science

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Bray90820:

I fi found proper instructions then i could follow them

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justinh:

what do you mean, proper instructions?

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tgm4883:

How about http://goo.gl/S54zL

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: that is perfect

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Bray90820:

thanks

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Bray90820:

Now after i remove mythtv from my system i will be set

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ctmjr:

why remove it if your installing mythbuntu

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tgm4883:

is there anything worth saving on there?

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justinh:

Bray90820: and again, removing mythtv will not solve the problem

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Bray90820:

justinh: again after i remove it i will load it up in a VM

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justinh:

uninstalling & reinstalling programs is a nasty habit Windows users get into

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Bray90820:

justinh: it will be done in a VM not on my main system

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justinh:

so? putting it in a VM won't make the problem go away either

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justinh:

if anything it'll add more problems. Like making devices work

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tgm4883:

Bray90820: there really isn't any reason to install it into a VM

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: to test it out

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tgm4883:

first, if you do, wagnerrp well yell at you

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Bray90820:

So i don't need to got through all of this again

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tgm4883:

second, you should be able to install/remove packages easily without any issues*

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tgm4883:

* yes I know there is a packaging bug right now

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tgm4883:

Bray90820: well, don't install from git, that would help a lot

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justinh:

but there are even ways around packaging bugs ;-)

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: i never planned on installing from git ever again

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justinh:

the only reasons anybody should install from git are thusly: 1. they want to develop mythtv. 2. there's a bugfix or feature that they absolutely HAVE to get NOW

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Bray90820:

justinh: i realize that now

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tgm4883:

justinh: which for the most part, those use cases are covered in the mythbuntu dev repo

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justinh:

tgm4883: I was about to add that bit

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justinh:

wait.. the 'want to develop' bit is covered by mythbuntu too?

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tgm4883:

well, #2 is covered

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2 **

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justinh:

heheh ;-)

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tgm4883:

although for #1, they could easily develop and then test by using our packaging scripts locally

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1 **

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: is mythbuntu a full install of ubuntu with mythtv components added

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justinh:

tgm4883: yeah that thought just occurred to me as well. I've some experience of building my own packages (where I used to work we had it all RPM'd nicely.. then the CEO decided we were to be *buntu fans)

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tgm4883:

Bray90820: no, it's just the stuff you need to run mythtv

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tgm4883:

Bray90820: ok, I've can tell you what you need to do to remove mythweb now if you want

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: thanks

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tgm4883:

You'll need to edit one file

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tgm4883:

that file is /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythweb.postrm

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tgm4883:

on line 36, you will need to add a space right after 'rm'

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tgm4883:

wait

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tgm4883:

on line 36, you will need to add a space right after 'rm -f'

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tgm4883:

almost made you add a different bug ;)

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tgm4883:

the space needs to be after -f

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Bray90820:

there was already a space after the RM

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Bray90820:

rm

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tgm4883:

the space needs to be after -f

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Bray90820:

should i remove the space after rm and add it after the f

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tgm4883:

no

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Bray90820:

or should i just have it after both

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tgm4883:

just add it after the -f

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Bray90820:

and leave the one after the rm

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Bray90820:

?

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tgm4883:

is should look like 'rm -f <something else here>'

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tgm4883:

notice two spaces

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Bray90820:

yes

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tgm4883:

ok

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Bray90820:

Thank you

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Bray90820:

tgm4883: would you suggest mythbuntu control center on a full install of ubuntu?

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tgm4883:

yes

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Bray90820:

for me?

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tgm4883:

that is how you would normally convert from Ubuntu to Mythbuntu

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Bray90820:

ok

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tgm4883:

or to install the right packages you need

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tgm4883:

yes

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Bray90820:

Thanks

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