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[07:34:38] foolsgold: What gpu is good for mythtv. Intel is it any good.
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[08:15:00] foolsgold: What gpu is good for mythtv. Intel is it any good.
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[09:16:09] justinh: AFAIK if you want to use hardware acceleration for video playback nvidia is still the best choice
[09:17:27] justinh: I considered buying a NUC box to use as a frontend but my experience of Intel video on Linux has made me doubtful. I'll be Nvidia til I die!
[09:22:53] Jay2k1: i read that as hardcore acceleration
[09:22:56] Jay2k1: i need more sleep...
[09:24:07] justinh: in other words, if you're gonna go with any NUC device make sure it has enough CPU grunt to decode in software too
[09:37:53] foolsgold: Doesn't myth tv support hw acceleration now on Intel gma and ati
[09:38:18] justinh: yes where it *works*
[09:38:32] justinh: but don't go betting your house that the drivers are much good
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[09:45:24] justinh: if I had enough confidence to be able to recommend anything non nvidia to somebody I'd buy it myself
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[10:04:17] Vollstrecker: Hey guys, where can I find the complete strings of a settings window of mythtv-setup. The explanation is cut off in the middle, and I want to read the whole text.
[10:13:23] Vollstrecker: I found some xml-files with many option in it, but mythtv-setup offers me to listen on link-local address of ipv6, but there is nothing about it.
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[14:06:46] jm|laptop: these tbs drivers seem to be rebuilding the whole v4l. I hope they took a stable fork :/
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[14:59:40] jm|laptop: did I miss a changelog wrt program starttime TZ?
[14:59:48] jm|laptop: is it just Zulu now?
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[15:00:47] beadle: o.26 made most time data in UTC
[15:01:19] jm|laptop: okies. Thanks.
[15:02:05] jm|laptop: so something I want to record at 6.30pm BST will be 5.30pm UTC whether it's BST or not?
[15:02:48] jm|laptop: no that can't be right.
[15:03:13] beadle: UTC plus your timezone offset I think
[15:03:59] beadle: but, UTC in the database
[15:03:59] jm|laptop: looking at the `program` table. A programme that starts at "6.30pm" "tonight" has a starttime of "2014-04–14 17:30:00"
[15:05:03] jm|laptop: because 1830h GMT /is/ 1730h UTC
[15:05:06] Merlin83b: See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.26#Major_Changes andthe linked www.mythtv.org/wiki/UTC
[15:05:33] Merlin83b: And no, 1830 GMT is not 1730 UTC. GMT and UTC are the same, you're thinking of BST.
[15:05:41] jm|laptop: er
[15:05:46] jm|laptop: yes sorry
[15:05:57] jm|laptop: so I think I get it
[15:06:16] jm|laptop: when the clocks go back it'll show as 18:30:00
[15:06:27] jm|laptop: because we'll be back on GMT==UTC
[15:06:30] Merlin83b: Yep
[15:07:12] jm|laptop: I think I get it. Thanks both.
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[16:48:27] perplexed: Can someone please explain to me how the mythfilldatabase "--sourceid" option is used. My issue is that I have two different video sources, but the schedule data for both is in the same xmltv.xml file. So if I use --sourceid 1 as some documents suggest, only the data for one of those sources gets into the schedule grid.
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[16:52:11] perplexed: I'm looking at the wiki page at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythfilldatabase but it doesn't really explain how to use the same xmltv.xml with two video sources, nor does it really explain the "--sourceid" option very well.
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[16:52:55] justinh: damn kids. Unplugging the router, power cycling the backend.. grrr
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[19:05:32] jm|laptop: justinh: are you interested in my DVB-T2 290e dongles?
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[19:41:20] justinh: jm|laptop: depends. how much would shipping be?
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[19:41:34] jm|laptop: justinh: we're both UK, right?
[19:41:43] jm|laptop: I'm in Glos.
[19:41:57] justinh: oh I didn't realise you were in the UK too
[19:42:06] jm|laptop: yarp
[19:42:38] justinh: how much would you want?
[19:42:49] justinh: more to the point, why are you selling em?
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[19:43:58] jm|laptop: justinh: today I installed my PCI-e 4xDVB-T2 TBS thingy
[19:44:51] jm|laptop: and I can confirm that the two I have /do/ have the correct chipset and whatnot for happy Linux usage
[19:50:48] justinh: I think the usb tuner I've got isn't far off working properly. it's just a matter of setting the right tuner params I think
[19:52:34] justinh: jm|laptop: so does the quad tuner cope with switching between dvb-t & t2 well?
[19:53:24] jm|laptop: er – does it 'switch' I figured it just used a different freq/qam whatever
[19:53:44] jm|laptop: I was watching BBC News HD and it recording something from BBC Radio 4
[19:53:46] jm|laptop: so I guess so
[19:55:11] justinh: ouch £160 for a quad tuner card?
[19:55:44] justinh: don't tell me this is another USB bridge on a PCI-e card LOL
[19:56:13] justinh: jm|laptop: I read a while back some tuners didn't cope with switching between T & T2 well
[19:56:29] jm|laptop: justinh: in what sense? I'll try it in a second
[19:56:32] justinh: maybe the demod drivers were coded differently back then. Now they just autoswitch
[19:56:54] justinh: like if you'd tuned one type, you'd have to reset the card to tune the other type
[19:56:56] jm|laptop: I tend not to do Live TV – and scheduled programmes on different muces will use different tuners – if the other is already in use, iyswim
[19:57:02] jm|laptop: or do you mean it gets stuck in one state?
[19:57:16] jm|laptop: well, let's try HD to ITV2 and back – or something
[19:59:18] jm|laptop: hm
[19:59:37] jm|laptop: there was a quick flash of "you should have got a signal by now" but then it kind of sorted itself out – at least in Live TV
[19:59:46] jm|laptop: hopefully the same will be true when it's Recording
[20:00:15] jm|laptop: I went BBC News HD --> More 4 --> BBC 1 HD
[20:03:38] justinh: yeah so looks like it copes then
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[20:07:11] jm|laptop: justinh: and no – it's not a USB + tuners
[20:07:23] jm|laptop: learnt that lesson the hard way with the T-500s
[20:07:27] jm|laptop: the VIA chipset was a POS
[20:07:29] justinh: time after time I still keep thinking "gah, I'll just buy a recorder box".. but I was at my folks' placee again yesterday & saw their crappy YouView box freeze up twice
[20:08:07] jm|laptop: even when I got the T290e dongles I was still plagued with USB subsystem problems – seems every onboard and PCI USB chipset I have tried was a POS
[20:08:30] jm|laptop: and xhci just seems broken in Linux
[20:08:48] jm|laptop: esp. disks, thumbsticks, USB SD card readers
[20:09:00] jm|laptop: if you're trying to shift more than about 16k about
[20:09:41] jm|laptop: best results I get is with my eSATA cable plugged into a SATA-to-SD card board then the SD card in that
[20:09:53] jm|laptop: remove USB from the equation and things start working much better
[20:10:48] justinh: yeah USB on loonix is cack
[20:10:53] jm|laptop: justinh: £145. But the 290e dongles are like £65 – so it's a lot cheaper than four of those!
[20:11:07] justinh: aye true
[20:11:19] justinh: so do you get the actual driver source or is it blobby?
[20:11:38] jm|laptop: justinh: it will be no hardship, while we only have two HD muces to allocated a card each and use the other two tuners for DVB-T only – if your problem occurs on my card
[20:11:51] jm|laptop: justinh: mixture afaics and of course a firmware
[20:12:15] jm|laptop: also this:
[20:12:17] jm|laptop: [15:06] <jm|laptop> these tbs drivers seem to be rebuilding the whole v4l. I hope they took a stable fork :/
[20:12:37] justinh: ick
[20:19:23] justinh: now it emerges that some of my xmltv config is broken
[20:19:45] justinh: no data for sameoldcrap +1 channel between BBC2 & CH4
[20:20:57] justinh: tsod.plus-1.tynetees.itv1.itv.co.uk – unknown channel identifier ? RUH?!
[20:23:15] jm|laptop: so, Tyne Tees
[20:23:25] jm|laptop: surely the thing between BBC2 and CH4 is ITV?
[20:23:31] jm|laptop: or STV
[20:23:40] justinh: ITV + 1
[20:23:54] justinh: hey when did they drop the '1' ?
[20:24:01] jm|laptop: please see above
[20:24:06] jm|laptop: it broke a load of my schedules
[20:24:25] jm|laptop: UKTV is weird. I have to rely on weird regexp and channel callsigns nowadays :S
[20:24:38] jm|laptop: "This channel" is b0rked
[20:24:40] justinh: bastard freeview planners, aka OFCOM etc
[20:24:45] jm|laptop: etc. indeed
[20:24:54] justinh: "this channel" shouldn't be used. Hence its being dropped
[20:25:16] justinh: which kinda pees me off, because repeat showings are *never* marked properly
[20:26:33] justinh: it'd be totally worth trying to implement green button functionality, then just use EIT. So you get to be able to book recordings from trailers
[20:27:22] justinh: hahahaha. ITV now has much on the screen!
[20:27:29] justinh: er MUCK on the screen!
[20:27:38] justinh: a DOG!
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[20:30:32] jm|laptop: ...
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[20:32:32] justinh: am I missing something here? In the database the xmlvid is tsod.plus-1.tynetees.itv1.co.uk and in the xmltvid config file is tsod.plus-1.tynetees.itv.co.uk
[20:34:26] jm|laptop: I have no idea what they are
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[20:34:59] justinh: tsod-plus-1.WHATEVER means WHATEVER+1
[20:35:14] justinh: the grabber processes it automatically supposedly
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[20:35:24] jm|laptop: my grabber doesn't even realise ITV HD is HD
[20:36:11] justinh: I dunno if the nodding doggies who watch ITV even realise HD is HD ;-)
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[20:43:33] Kwisher: .weather kind
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[20:54:18] justinh: just when you think you've got all this xmltv config business off pat...
[20:56:50] justinh: hang on.. if I update an xmltvid in the database, next time I run mythfilldatabase it should use the new xmltvid right?
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