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Saturday, April 12th, 2014, 00:03 UTC
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[05:36:19] splurben: I'm upgrading my GENTOO MYTHTV box — wondering if there's any reason why I shouldn't go to SYSTEMD since all my other boxes are running it.
[05:37:28] wagnerrp: that's really more a gentoo question than a mythtv question
[05:38:14] splurben: I'm using SYSTEMD happily on three other boxes, and I realise that the SYSV compat usually takes care of things, so I guess there isn't any reason not to
[05:39:03] splurben: (that's three other Gentoo boxes)
[05:40:01] wagnerrp: gentoo switched to systemd? i thought they were rolling their own new init system
[05:42:01] splurben: SYSTEMD appeared in portage by default a few months back, I follow it somewhat closely; they are mainly depending on SYSV compatibility, although about two thirds of my startup is SYSTEMD native without any custom edits. It sure is a hell of a lot faster than SYSV
[05:42:35] wagnerrp: well sysv makes no attempt at parallel execution
[05:45:13] splurben: There was a stoush at Gentoo mainly to do with udev and they pushed out there own eudev as an alternative and a bunch of in-fighting (that got really boring). I reboot some of my testing bench systems often so I really appreciate the fast boot time. As far as my Myth box is concerned it stays on for weeks so it's just a question of having the same systems running for me. I'll look into any alternatives being vetted by Gentoo Dev
[05:52:53] splurben: Well, SYSTEMD is officially supported as the new (but still alternative) INIT system and I can't find a mention of anything thing other than OpenRC as having official support. The biggest drama for some is the lack of BSD coincidence.
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[09:24:02] esperegu: I am running latest .28 ppa and watching live tv is not very stable. this is part of my log output: http://dpaste.com/1777141/
[09:24:38] jya: myth doesn’t support playing encrypted stream
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[10:11:37] esperegu: huh? that is included already many versions ago. It displays as the c -> C on the screen? the only thing I can think of is that myth is getting epg data on another adapter (I see 2 in the log) for channels for which I don't have a subscription.
[10:11:52] esperegu: or am I not understanding your remark?
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[16:22:40] jm|laptop: hmm
[16:22:49] jm|laptop: my mythtv thinks it's recording something but it's not
[16:22:54] jm|laptop: and I can't make it stop!
[16:23:09] jm|laptop: I /think/ the OTA schedule changed for it and/or I had perm problems on the file itself
[16:23:46] jm|laptop: hmm. Actually, it now appears to BE recording
[16:23:59] jm|laptop: I'll just let it record and see if I can delete it later :S
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[17:14:26] earthw0rm: Hi, in order to record two things at once, do I need to do a channel scan on both of the tuners on my card, and combine the channels that are the same onto the same channel numnber?
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[17:17:34] AJRG: Hey earthw0rm; as long as both tuners are of the same type (DVB-T, for example) and they are both connected to the same antenna, you can just put them both in the same tuner group
[17:18:01] AJRG: Then you scan once on any tuner in that tuner group, and the list will apply to all of them
[17:19:02] earthw0rm: Tuner group?
[17:19:24] AJRG: If they are of different types (DVB-T and DVB-C, for example), you would need to put them in seperate tuner groups and scan one tuner in each group
[17:19:46] earthw0rm: Right, they are on the same card and same TV arial
[17:20:37] earthw0rm: How do you put them in a group?
[17:23:08] AJRG: My apologies, the term in 'Input Group' – I think by default all cards end up in the same default group
[17:23:26] AJRG: So you should be able to scan once and have both tuners configured
[17:24:06] earthw0rm: Okay, input group
[17:25:58] AJRG: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO_-_0.27#Video_Sources& nbsp;– I assume that if you have got as far as scanning a tuner, you will already have them both configured and in a group
[17:26:27] earthw0rm: Yeah, I've had this all working for ages, but it doesn't seem to like to record and live tv at the same time
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[17:29:36] AJRG: Hmm. Do you just end up with a zero-length or very small recording, or do you get a recording with a blank/black output?
[17:29:40] AJRG: Or some other error?
[17:30:16] earthw0rm: I just tried to record another program while watching live tv and it stopped the live tv to do the recording
[17:30:40] earthw0rm: I am using XBMC as the mythtv client btw
[17:30:55] earthw0rm: I think it was the same on mythfrontend though
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[17:33:19] AJRG: This is more likely to be caused by the backend... It's been a long while since I set mine up, but I'm sure there was a way to assign each tuner a 'Live' and 'Recording' priority
[17:34:50] earthw0rm: I seem to remember playing with that in the past and setting it to prefer one for live and the other for recording, but I think it just broke everything
[17:35:50] earthw0rm: I thought I read that they made it so you don't need to do that anymore, but it doesn't seem to be the case
[17:36:04] earthw0rm: I've never managed to get it working
[17:38:37] AJRG: I remember having similar trouble and it was because all the tuners had the same priority for live and recording
[17:38:47] AJRG: Input connections, I believe
[17:39:35] AJRG: So you'd set Tuner 1 to Live 1 and Schedule 2, and Tuner 2 to Live 2 and Schedule 1
[17:40:21] AJRG: That way, live TV would always run on Tuner 1, and recordings would always start on Tuner 2
[17:40:52] earthw0rm: Right, will give it a try
[17:41:02] earthw0rm: Thanks for your help duck.
[17:41:21] AJRG: Good luck! I'll have a poke around on my system when I'm out of work :)
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[18:26:52] AJRG: Okay, so I'm not sure if this question should be directed towards the user community or the devs, as someone may have already done this, but here goes;
[18:26:55] AJRG: I am wondering if there is a simple way to have certain actions within MythTV trigger a set of shell scripts I have written to control various aspects of the viewing environments.
[18:27:01] AJRG: The main ones I'd be looking at are play/pause/stop actions for TV, Music, Video and Movies (preferably with each category of playback and action running a different script.
[18:27:11] AJRG: The goal is to be able to set scenes on network connected lighting, and set modes on network connected amplification.
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[18:30:12] bill6502: AJRG: Take a look at this:http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_System_Events
[18:31:29] AJRG: bill6502: Wonderful, thank you! I shall have a read and a play :)
[18:31:56] bill6502: It's not everything you want, but it's what's available now.
[18:35:01] AJRG: Looking at the list, there's plenty to go on. It handles the main actions I was looking at – you can at run scripts when things are started, paused and stopped.
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[19:07:47] adonaros: I have been messing around with my mythtv setup, and now when i choose 'watch live tv' it just flashes the screen and returns back to the menu
[19:09:52] adonaros: any ideas?
[19:11:26] wagnerrp: failing to record, check your backend logs
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[19:42:10] adonaros: ...well, i shutoff my 2nd backend and now it seems fine.
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