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Tuesday, April 1st, 2014, 00:08 UTC

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drew_vv:

Hello, running .27 and after running mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all shows are no longer recording that are either from a recording rule or set to a future time using the EPG and record button. I have run mythutil --resched which appears to exit successfully. I've also restarted the backend, what is the next step short of blowing away the database?

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drew_vv:

I have also done a repair on the database, it did not appear to be corrupt...

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drew_vv:

Here is the relevant backend log: http://pastebin.com/ZgF5LWwj

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Kelerion:

justinh: hey hey pal! long time no see

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justinh:

Kelerion: aye, I finally got moved! Sold my house in Mankyland & moved the family up to Co. Durham. Living the dream!

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justinh:

turns out the new house is less than 100 metres from where I pulled over when the agency guy rang me to do the interview post mortem

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justinh:

so hows things with you kelerion?

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justinh:

i think BT are a bit behind the curve. I.ve had 3 emails telling me my broadband is ready

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justinh:

Think I've chosen my new telly. not going to bother with 'three dee' or 'smart' features. Just 1080P at 42 inches in LED backlit

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Merlin83b:

justinh: Can you even buy non-3D, non-smart sets these days?

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justinh:

yeah course you can if you avoid the idiot sheds

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justinh:

richer sounds !

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justinh:

I'm not paying extra for rubbish features. oooo DLNA, aka a poxy file browser with no metadata

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justinh:

any tv can be made smart with a Pi. and it wont suck as badly

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justinh:

and no, i won't be using any Pi as a myth frontend. They're really bad for that

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Merlin83b:

Heh, so far ;)

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Merlin83b:

Still, even looking into it, the ones with good screen quality seem to have 3d and smart features unavoidably built in.

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justinh:

i don't watch enough to warrant spending loads on a telly

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justinh:

in other words it won't be one by technica or cello, but it won't have five point ehite balance either

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justinh:

500 quid+ for something I personally don't use for even an hour a week? meh

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justinh:

I've even pondered making my wife suffer YouView

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justinh:

as in, get rid of myth

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justinh:

I thibk it miggt even be worth it, for the money we'd save

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justinh:

and all the hassle running wires hither & thither

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Merlin83b:

No Myth! But I suppose, if you're not using it, then there's not a lot of point having it!

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justinh:

I'm dreading moving the aerial cable if we're to keep myth. For what... a few fancy scheduling features? and getting HD will be expensive. Stupid pricy dvb-t2 junk

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justinh:

YouView is utterly awful though. i dunno if i could actually make my wife put up with it. You can't find anything in the EPG

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justinh:

Just.... what's in it for ME?

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Merlin83b:

I just have the backend where the aerial comes in, everything else is a frontend with no tuners.

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Merlin83b:

So for me, myth leads to less cabling.

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justinh:

stupid aerial cable is in the lounge

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Merlin83b:

Ditto – I considered moving it (and the sat feed) into the loft but never quite got round to it.

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justinh:

for a few quid more the builder could easy have done multiple sockets and put wires in for real networking

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justinh:

small kids mess with the backend

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justinh:

and i hate 'units'

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Merlin83b:

Heh, that room has a unit. The others don't – a revo r3610/r3700 doesn't really warrant one, and the other TVs are wall mounted.

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Merlin83b:

But yeah, when the previous occupants (we moved in a year ago) had it all redone, extensions etc, I WISH they'd put cat 5 in.

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Merlin83b:

powerline networking works for me, but I'd prefer not to have to spend another £20 each time I want to add to the network.

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justinh:

oh the new telly will be wall mounted too. Small kids again

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Merlin83b:

Last friend's small kid that visited climbed up the centre speaker and TV. I was quite proud of my wall mounting!

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justinh:

I want my stereo back too

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justinh:

I've got some ace fixings for the house. DryWall Pro

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justinh:

way safer yhan ordinary expanding plugs

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justinh:

I think we'll have to stick with myth anyway, hassle or no. All the time I've invested so far... but I'll be junking Ubununununununtu

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Kelerion:

time? bah... ya've done nuttin...what is 10 years between friends :P

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justinh:

I can't stay on 10.04 forever

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justinh:

going Debian next. One of the proper linuxrs

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Kelerion:

8 years...damn thats gone quick... justinh: 8 years since we were at the expo

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Kelerion:

at the moment I have kali running as my desktop... it works suprisingly well

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justinh:

I just wish I didnt need bloody PCs!

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justinh:

eight years? jeeeees

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Kelerion:

yep

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Kelerion:

I just checked the photo's

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justinh:

there's still not been another Linux expo since

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Kelerion:

well, of course not... how would they improve on *us*!

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justinh:

i had to reconfig my network la

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Kelerion:

I had to lug my whole setup down there! including the tv!

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justinh:

last night. all i needed to do was change the gateway. well that wad

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justinh:

thatwas thelast straw. Ubuntu sucks

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Kelerion:

pfft... and you think debian is easier? ubuntu is easy...and it's the same network-manager in debian

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justinh:

really? GAH

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Kelerion:

well.. it is if you're in gnome

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Kelerion:

change distro doesn't always mean change desktop

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justinh:

I'm perfectly happy to do it on the commandline but for some reason the stupid GUI doesnt change actual config files

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justinh:

at least not ones I know about

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Kelerion:

well they went and changed the config's that are used

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justinh:

gnome sucks too

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Kelerion:

as far as I recall the gui changes /etc/network/interfaces

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justinh:

I wouldnt care but the gui wouldn't letme change the gateway addrrss

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Kelerion:

do a a fresh install on xubuntu... faster, smoother and up to date...you'll have you're front end running in an hour

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justinh:

and no, nowt in /etc/network/interfaces. Piece of crap

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justinh:

no more buntu. I swear

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Kelerion:

grep -R loop /etc/net*

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Kelerion:

see what is changing

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justinh:

my mind is made up. They change stuff in the name of progress but get too much wrong

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Kelerion:

sounds like the gui is update configs the init scripts are ignoring

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Merlin83b:

I did the 10.04 to 12.04 update late last year. Not too painful!

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Merlin83b:

I use those plugs too, normal ones where warranted, but not for plasterboard!

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justinh:

no, the gui had the apply button greyed out!

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Kelerion:

lol

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justinh:

it let me change to DHCP though. the bastard

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Kelerion:

in the gui...if all the fields aren't filled out...the apply button won't be active... which includes the dns

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Kelerion:

or...if the fields are wrong

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justinh:

i ended up uninstalling network-mangler & rditing the interfaces file

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justinh:

the fields were all correct.

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Kelerion:

had you had a few beers before doing it?

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justinh:

this iswhat pisses me off so much about it. I KNOW what I'm doing but it won't let me

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Kelerion:

ok – it's beer time for me... I *love* spanish siesta time!

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justinh:

ha. Nice one

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Kelerion:

I've been pissing around with asterisk config files for 5 hours... I've earnt it

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justinh:

i haveto go earn some quidco money, er I mean place a Farnell order

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justinh:

what gets me about these gui things – is this – they're very nice & all but if they obsfurcate the real config process they're nto really helping are they?

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justinh:

and stuff like introducing Pulseaudio didn't improve things for many people – even now I bet there are still major issues. Oh, they're too 'good' to do passthru.. or something

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justinh:

doing a bit of digging around, config files for NM are in /etc/NetworkManager – with *spaces* in filenames. LOL

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justinh:

"Auto eth0" for example

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justinh:

eek. YouView boxen are HOW much? Thought they were given away for free. Oh well, seems MythTV *is* going to live in the utility room after all

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justinh:

nah that YouView junk is NOT worth an extra fiver a month. Who'd pay for something that has slower channel changes in livetv than myth?

[11:45:47]

justinh:

(yes, really)

[11:53:52]

justinh:

those dvb-t2 tuners are still stupidly expensive though. One USB tuner for the price of four of my existing tuners. Bah

[11:54:17]

justinh:

and how reliable is USB for tuners anyway?

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Merlin83b:

DVB-S2 tuners aren't too pricey :)

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justinh:

but fitting a good dish is

[11:56:40]

justinh:

and one cable per tuner..

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Merlin83b:

No idea, the dish came with the house :)

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justinh:

can any of that new stuff work – i.e. the multiple hardware on one coax thingy?

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Merlin83b:

And it had 4 cables coming out of it.

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Merlin83b:

It must, apartment blocks use similar things.

[11:57:34]

Merlin83b:

But honestly I don't know.

[11:57:40]

Merlin83b:

I was lucky with what was already in place, basically.

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justinh:

I mean, with affordable tuners & linux

[11:58:00]

justinh:

we had a 60cm dish on our old house. I got rid of it cos the wind made it noisy

[11:58:32]

justinh:

I've considered satellite already – I'd go with a 60cm dish. Minidishes are too unreliable I think

[11:59:54]

justinh:

if my garage had power, siting the backend etc would be a no-brainer. I'd move the aerial to a mast on the apex of the garage & just drill straight into the house through from outside

[12:01:00]

justinh:

maybe I could still do that.. I can work around the stupid 'Part P' rules by effectively just making the garage power an extension cable

[12:02:10]

justinh:

add a HDMI balun & I can still do away with the separate frontend too

[12:02:55]

justinh:

but the garage is only a single course of bricks & isn't bone dry in there

[12:03:21]

justinh:

the boxes we moved in with are stored in there & the cardboard has gon quite soft

[12:04:27]

justinh:

so these USB HDTV thingies.. can you actually record a whole mux at the same time with one?

[12:04:42]

Merlin83b:

No idea, I'm PCI all the way.

[12:04:48]

Merlin83b:

And part P? More of a guideline ;)

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justinh:

not if you ever want to sell it ain't

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justinh:

unless you *lie* which if found out, would be very costly

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Merlin83b:

All true.

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justinh:

since no 'part p' person will likely come & approve anything you've done yourself. The gits

[12:06:38]

justinh:

I tried a similar ruse with my new boiler – I said I'd do all the plumbing etc – could somebody come & just hook it up to gas & test it? NO. They wanted the whole job, all of em

[12:07:23]

Merlin83b:

Yeah, you need a friend rather than a person to call out of the phone book.

[12:07:42]

Merlin83b:

If you don't know someone or know someone who knows someone it's annoying.

[12:07:49]

justinh:

oh. PCTV nanostick dvb-t2 Â£56.52? How did I think it was much more?

[12:08:13]

Merlin83b:

I didn't know we were using T2 here yet.

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justinh:

oh yeah. there'd be no freeviewHD without it

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Merlin83b:

Good point!

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justinh:

you see how the Conservatives are talking about making all FTA TV encrippled?

[12:09:02]

Merlin83b:

Ugh, nope.

[12:09:26]

justinh:

the 'only way' to enforce TV licensing once they decriminalise evasion, apparently

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justinh:

it'd end up being CI+

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justinh:

no Linux

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Merlin83b:

Oh God. More government stupidity.

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Merlin83b:

Breaking lots of old STBs in the process.

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justinh:

terrestrial & satellite too... but wait, if you already have SKY you already have the right gear – no need to change

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justinh:

so that'll be the change from NITs to split NITs (millions of STBs broken) on their books – then the whole 'HDTV' fallacy – no HD TVs could actually receive HDTV... and then this. Way to save the environment

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Merlin83b:

Fingers crossed that lot doesn't go through then.

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justinh:

it won't just break *old* STBs & TVs. They have CI slots. Not CI+

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Merlin83b:

I think the breaking installed base will prevent it.

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Merlin83b:

regulartory impact assessment s

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Merlin83b:

hould stop it.

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justinh:

CI+ is bloody *evil*

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Merlin83b:

I know nothing about it.

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justinh:

it's like Videoguard level encripplement

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Merlin83b:

Yuk

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justinh:

they can restrict use of streams, isn't that nice? No recording for YOU today!

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justinh:

trusted paths, my ass

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justinh:

I yelled at the bloke who came up with the idea on twitter

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Merlin83b:

Heh, good.

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justinh:

my argument was that while it's possible the BBC is cut off from the TVL, it's unlikely to ever be scrapped. Taxes are rarely if ever knocked on the head

[12:19:34]

justinh:

then he said "when maggie reduced tax from 90% to 40%" I blocked the sod

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Merlin83b:

Yeah that's a pretty selective view.

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justinh:

and indicative of who they look out for the most

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Merlin83b:

Hardly surprising, that.

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justinh:

murdoch would benefit no end from everything having to encrypted

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justinh:

er be encrypted

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justinh:

if it happens I'd just erm... you know... naughty

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Merlin83b:

I think many would.

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justinh:

beats me that nobody has yet made a commercial offering that even comes close to myth though. what is everybody playing at?

[12:29:14]

Merlin83b:

People wouldn't pay for it, I suppose.

[12:29:26]

Merlin83b:

Sky multiroom is probably the closest.

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justinh:

their planner thing is idiotic

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Merlin83b:

I've never really been subjected to it – only used it at friends/relatives houses.

[12:31:31]

Merlin83b:

Not as a functioning PVR.

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justinh:

its not logical to go to the same pages you set up recordings to watch recordings

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justinh:

then there's the unreliability. users just eat it all up

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Merlin83b:

Yay for monopolies!

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justinh:

dame w

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justinh:

gah. same with youview.

[12:34:46]

justinh:

and youview only has one hardware platform

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justinh:

if you have 'too many', ie 50 recordings it can take 5+ secs to change channel

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justinh:

i saw youview every day when I lived at my parents house

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justinh:

the single good thing about it is how integrated the online features are

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justinh:

but if you cant find a show on the grid EPG, forget it. It's still too channel centric

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Merlin83b:

Yeah, I really do like the list of recordings to choose what to watch.

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Merlin83b:

'Er indoors still channel surfs, but I almost never do.

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justinh:

come to think about it, it's actually worth going to all the hassle of cabling if only.for the program finder & searches

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justinh:

only cbeebies is ever live in my house now

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justinh:

oh yrah youview is one big list of recordings too. no categorisation

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justinh:

so I'm going to need a shelf wide enough to sit a PC on, next to the AV amp

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Merlin83b:

A real size PC or something smaller?

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justinh:

midi

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Merlin83b:

Right off to the datacentre. Seeya :)

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wagnerrp:

compromised security DVRs used to attack synology disk units and to get them to mine bitcoins

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wagnerrp:

maybe it's just me, but it seems like you could zombify millions of those things, and still not combine them to any real appreciable processing power

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justinh:

heheh. Considering the amount of grunt needed to process made up money...

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wagnerrp:

i mean when you're sucking down tens of megawatts using custom ASICs, how much is an army of general purpose ARMs really going to accomplish?

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justinh:

definitely playing a long game there

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wagnerrp:

it costs them money for every unit, but they'll make it up in volume

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Merlin83b:

Yeah, depends how large that army is :)

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** justinh suspects an april fool **

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Merlin83b:

I know nothing other than what's written above.

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Merlin83b:

But I do know it would be a silly day to publicise sich a thing.

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justinh:

oh, apparently I'm to meet the woman whose website I develop this weekend

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justinh:

according to my wife i already have, though I've no recall of that

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justinh:

can any video cards do CEC yet?

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sphery:

ttbomk, no--need a pulse 8 or whatever

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justinh:

ah bum. thanks sphery

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justinh:

surprised nvidia can't spare a few gates for cec. never mind

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devinheitmueller:

justinh: on many video cards, the CEC lines arenâ€™t even wired up.

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devinheitmueller:

Itâ€™s largely dependent on the HDMI output IP core. Itâ€™s probalby licensed from a third party, which may or may not support CEC in their core.

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devinheitmueller:

That said though, in terms of video cards for the PC market they have little incentive to expose the functionality.

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justinh:

ah

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justinh:

well I've seen a few home brew ideas, but whether theyre cheaper than a pulse eight or not.remains to be seen

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devinheitmueller:

The HDPVR 2 actually supports CEC in the HDMI receiver. If I ever get around to doing a Linux driver it would be very tempting to setup CEC to do channel changing (no need for an IR blaster for the STB).

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justinh:

nice walk home tonight. almost there now :)

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justinh:

I must say, I like my new life so far

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justinh:

all my family together again and only 40 minutes from my parents. Walking 2 miles every day for 3 weeks has put me on the last hole of my belt

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LedHed:

morning ladies

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LedHed:

lol. wrong channel

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justinh:

ladies on IRC? LOL

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justinh:

heheh the local channel called 'test' has EPG data now

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justinh:

Scaredy Squirrel!

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justinh:

just thought, if I *do* go with a USB tuner for HD, I'll be wanting to put it in a box with a proper RF connector on the side

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tlhiv_laptop:

this shows that PageUP/PageDown are the default keys to Rewind/FastForward MythMusic, but those keys seem to be navigating Up/Down in the playlist -> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythMusic#Useful_keys_to_know

[20:22:38]

justinh:

ah don't you just *love* wikis

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tlhiv_laptop:

:-/

[20:23:30]

justinh:

look in the 'edit keys' screens for better clues

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SteveGoodey:

Damn spammers do!

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justinh:

nobody else seems to

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justinh:

isn't there a better antispam scheme for mediawiki or whatever it is?

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justinh:

I always used to like looking at the changes. Now it's a complete rigmarole so I don't bother

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justinh:

500+ pages of user bannings.. :-/

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SteveGoodey:

My usb tuners connections seem everso flimsy. Resorted to blutack and flying leads. What a kludge.

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justinh:

heh I'll be using a PCB with a proper USB socket onboard

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justinh:

I dunno why they bother with the USB stick form factor for the majority of such tuners

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justinh:

the connectors for the aerial are just too small for reliable use

[20:30:24]

justinh:

and the sticks themselves are generally too big to fit easily into a lot of port spacings

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tlhiv_laptop:

justinh: i just checked, and FFWD is set to PgDown and RWND is set to PgUp but it does not operate does not work ... it moves Up/Down the playlist :-/

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justinh:

jees it's come to something when I don't even know if my backend's motherboard has any spare pci-e slots

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justinh:

thanks to dmidecode I now know the answer. NO

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tlhiv_laptop:

justinh: this is what i am looking at --> http://www.tlhiv.org/upload/screenshot.png

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tlhiv_laptop:

PgDown goes down in the playlist

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justinh:

so that's what I got for getting a board with 5 PCI slots. haha

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justinh:

tlhiv_laptop: what I think you need to do is change the ffw/rew mythmusic keybindings then

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tlhiv_laptop:

i don't understand ... i mean it's set to PgUp/PgDown

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justinh:

yes but other keybindings can override those

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tlhiv_laptop:

how do i know what keys are unused so i can try assigning to them?

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justinh:

try some – it should tell you

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bill6502:

justinh: Try this as a Wiki bookmark: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Special:Rece . . . amp;invert=1 It isn't perfect, but cut today's changes down from 13 to 1. Yesterday's from 25 to 3.

[20:58:23]

justinh:

it'd be nicer if there were no user changes in the main changes lists

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justinh:

:-)

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justinh:

nicer still if spammers would take the fricking hint!

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tlhiv_laptop:

justinh: that seemed to work

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justinh:

but thanks bill6502 :-)

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** justinh wonders if these 'August' tuners are any good **

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justinh:

ack. No loonix driver for the t210 model it seems

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justinh:

arghh and there are now 2 versions of the pctv nanostick for dvb-t2 – one works the other doesn't?

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SteveGoodey:

Yeah tell me about it. A guy called anti is hoping to do a driver for it. He did the 290e one.

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justinh:

OH. The linuxtv wiki suggests the August t210 thingy is a rebranded other thingy.. which has in kernel drivers :-P

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justinh:

worth a go from Amazon I think

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justinh:

Â£35 vvs Â£56

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tlhiv_laptop:

justinh: any idea what could be "interfering" with FWD/RWD?

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justinh:

nope

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justinh:

lol, reading a thread about debugging the dvb-t2 usb tuner on a Pi.. the poor thing drops packets when there's LAN traffic

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SteveGoodey:

justinh: Seems like that august thing might be a none starter unless I'm reading this wrong. https://tvheadend.org/boards/5/topics/10864?r=10883

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justinh:

I was gonna say the pi would make a great network tuner base ... if it had a proper network interface

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justinh:

SteveGoodey: I read that. And I'm ignoring it. tvheadend, y'know...

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justinh:

besides, isn't Amazon's returns policy kinda no questions asked?

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justinh:

and aren't the distance selling regs the same? ;-)

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justinh:

hell, I'd buy two cheap-ass dvb-t2 tuners from ebay & send one to the linuxtv guys if it was worth a shot

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justinh:

SteveGoodey: see //www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg67966.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger. . . . sg67966.html

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justinh:

and if it's got the same USB IDs as the geniatech thing .. technically it'll just work (TM)

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SteveGoodey:

justinh: Interesting, time for bed.

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justinh:

eek is that the time already? Man, I *hate* all this clock shifting business

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dashs:

My backend is on an essentially headless server. Can I manipulate "storagegroup" entries while mythbackend is down with mysql and restart successfully?

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slysir:

one of my frontends has no program guide to show, the other frontend shows channel guide

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LLKCKfan:

hello

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LLKCKfan:

Is there a way to hook up a tv to a cable box and get a clear picture? I have it hooked to a vcr/dvd that is not plugged into power and then to the tv. Should I undo the cable to the vcr/dvd player

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wagnerrp:

LLKCKfan: what does this have to do with MythTV?

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