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| [00:15:09] | tgm4883: | where is "Preferred Channel Format" used? Can I use it in a theme on the EPG guide? |
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| [18:08:38] | biffhero: | I have a 15 year old here at home. He'd like to get Sky Sports 1. As would I. Is there a legal way to get Sky Sports 1 HD on my mythbox which resides in California, USA? Do I have to buy a satellite subscription in the UK? |
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| [18:09:41] | Merlin83b: | biffhero: Yes you need to subscribe. Not sure about getting it on your myth box but there are plenty of expat TV services that will host your sky box and hook it up to a slingbox. |
| [18:11:27] | biffhero: | Can myth record from sling? |
| [18:12:08] | biffhero: | Oh, I missed your first part. I withdraw the question. |
| [18:12:17] | Merlin83b: | :) |
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| [20:32:34] | justinh: | soon it'll be time to tether my phone to my backend to grab EPG data again.. hopefully for the last ever time.. if BT can get around to installing me on Monday |
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| [20:34:52] | justinh: | biffhero: just move back to the UK :-P |
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| [20:38:39] | biffhero: | <justinh> biffhero: just move back to the UK :-P <<< Heh, I have never lived outside of the US. |
| [20:39:43] | justinh: | biffhero: heheheh. there's that mrsky.com or something like merlin83b said, but it ain't cheap. |
| [20:40:02] | justinh: | shame to pay all that money & still only get wonky sling streams though too |
| [20:40:19] | justinh: | oops mrskytv.com .. |
| [20:41:44] | justinh: | my sister was showing me her dodgy xbmc setup the other week – it allegedly lets her watch all this stuff 'free' but many streams featured static slingplayer screens. Very very lame |
| [20:42:11] | biffhero: | yeah, I'm thinking it's better to help some brit pay his bills, and have a mythfronted there, using rsync between the two. But I figure it would end up being $100 a month. |
| [20:42:48] | justinh: | most UK broadband just doesn't have the upload capacity for that to work well |
| [20:43:09] | biffhero: | Oh, yeah, I had never thought of that. A bunch of slings tuning each their own channel, and then let people pay to watch the slingstream. |
| [20:43:51] | biffhero: | I presume I'd have to have some serious bandwidth restrictions to make sure the business partner would have good upload during the syncing. |
| [20:44:22] | justinh: | somebody must be paying for all those 'free' streams of pay TV channels |
| [20:45:18] | biffhero: | Sure, but they get "free" access to the other streams. |
| [20:45:27] | justinh: | heck even if it's hacky & something I'm not paying for I still want it to be good! |
| [20:45:43] | justinh: | by good I mean perfect, always working. |
| [20:46:28] | biffhero: | That sort of thing will happen more and more as more people get hooked up to the internet. Add in an increasing techno-literacy, and "Katie, bar the door." |
| [20:47:22] | biffhero: | Yeah, I'd like mine ot always work as well. I'd have to send the computer over there. If you had enough, "100?" customers, you could do it for $20 a month charge. |
| [20:47:35] | justinh: | speaking of hacking, a notable Brit MP is talking about abolishing the TV licence fee & encrippling all broadcasts |
| [20:47:54] | justinh: | biffhero: Sky wouldn't allow it to continue if they ever found out about it |
| [20:48:22] | biffhero: | I'd expect for each "customer" to know this, and keep their mouth shut. |
| [20:48:24] | justinh: | hard to call it 'personal use' if you're selling it on |
| [20:48:38] | biffhero: | I don't understand what you mean by abolishing the license fee and encrippling. |
| [20:49:00] | biffhero: | Do you mean that there's no HDMI lock down of the HD stations, since it's paid for with tax money? |
| [20:49:09] | justinh: | biffhero: right now all the TV worth watching here is unencrypted, and we all pay a licence fee |
| [20:49:27] | justinh: | no lock down of anything on terrestrial TV |
| [20:50:24] | justinh: | but now they're talking about encrypting everything.. meaning all existing receivers will be obsolete – and mythtv will never work again – since the kit needed to unlock the DRM won't run on linux.. |
| [20:50:55] | justinh: | but this politician's best mate Murdoch (Sky) will do well, since they're already set up to handle this. Fun huh |
| [20:51:40] | biffhero: | So forcing all new receivers will push more customers to Sky? |
| [20:52:11] | justinh: | they already caused a massive furore or three, when the broadcast format of the dvb-t transmissions changed rendering hundreds of thousands of boxes useless (split NITs)... then people's HD TVs couldn't actually receive HD because it was launched in DVB-T2 format... |
| [20:53:01] | justinh: | so another case of having to buy another box... meh.. |
| [20:53:44] | justinh: | imagine – no FTA. At all! |
| [20:54:26] | justinh: | I've more or less stopped watching telly anyway.. there's so little on I actually want to watch. It's my wife & kids who watch it really – and for that they'd have to suffer a commercial DVR |
| [20:54:54] | biffhero: | In the end, that's what the customers are paying for. It's just going to push more people to piracy. Set up a network that's a cross between tor and the pirate bay. Sell boxes for access. Move to a place with no extradition. |
| [20:55:26] | justinh: | or just abstain, because it's mostly drivel |
| [20:55:36] | biffhero: | yeah, that's where it's going towards. |
| [20:56:20] | justinh: | people moan about the license fee, but you only have to see the 'quality' of commercial output to know why public funded TV must be maintained |
| [20:57:33] | justinh: | it's one thing so force the BBC to be commercial, but to encrypt it all so you stymy the likes of MythTV where ads are easily skipped.. bah |
| [21:00:12] | justinh: | gah! I want my broadband. NOW! |
| [21:00:36] | biffhero: | what sort of internet connection do you have now? |
| [21:00:57] | justinh: | my phone. 3G |
| [21:01:06] | justinh: | 1GB for £10 |
| [21:01:33] | justinh: | it's a new house, and the phone company won't install a line on-spec |
| [21:01:42] | justinh: | so you have to move in, then wait |
| [21:03:41] | biffhero: | ick |
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| [21:08:55] | biffhero: | Maybe myth on windows will become higher priority for some UK coders. |
| [21:09:58] | justinh: | it'll be a cold day in hell when I run a windows DVR |
| [21:10:12] | justinh: | or a windows HTPC |
| [21:10:15] | biffhero: | Even mythtv ? |
| [21:10:22] | justinh: | even mythtv |
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| [21:11:07] | justinh: | windows drivers for stuff suck. How do you think I ended up using mythtv in the 1st place? ;-) |
| [21:11:41] | biffhero: | ah |
| [21:11:51] | justinh: | and then later. .... quick! we need to reboot the DVR! Oh hang on, it's saying I need to install 57 updates. Gah! Why now?! |
| [21:12:21] | biffhero: | Have to stick with windows XP, fewer updates. |
| [21:12:30] | justinh: | not so much mythtv.. but it had to be linux for the tuner to work properly.. and then there was nothing else at the time |
| [21:12:54] | justinh: | you can't even buy XP anymore AFAIK.. not new anyway |
| [21:13:29] | justinh: | nah I'd just go with the commercial sucky DVR |
| [21:13:48] | justinh: | the slow, awful UI, unreliable recording... |
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| [21:14:44] | justinh: | most commercial DVRs still call recordings 'timer events'. How lame is that? |
| [21:17:41] | justinh: | and why does no commercial DVR let you do arbitrary skipping? Only ever 30secs at a time |
| [21:18:16] | justinh: | it's all blimmin mpeg, with timestamped packets... |
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