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| [00:06:02] | mattwj2002: | well mythtv setup is pretty jacked right nwo |
| [00:06:06] | mattwj2002: | but it is working |
| [00:06:13] | mattwj2002: | *now |
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| [00:51:27] | k-man: | is it possible to use CEC to turn the Tv on or off? |
| [00:56:32] | [R]: | if yoru tv supports it |
| [00:57:56] | wagnerrp: | at current, that is the only CEC action mythtv supports internally |
| [01:08:24] | BLZbubba: | hi guys, in 0.27 it looks like the shows no longer have the option to record at any time on the current channel, and a few others are missing too |
| [01:09:09] | BLZbubba: | I get the don't record, record this showing, find and record one showing, or record any time on any channel |
| [01:09:16] | [R]: | BLZbubba: read the release notes |
| [01:09:25] | wagnerrp: | "record on this channel" moved to a filter, rather than its own recording type |
| [01:11:24] | BLZbubba: | gotcha, ok thanks |
| [01:11:46] | BLZbubba: | i've been afraid to try mythmusic, does it suck any less than every version for the past 10 years? |
| [01:11:57] | BLZbubba: | which are all horrible |
| [01:12:27] | wagnerrp: | mythmusic was completely rewritten for... 0.26 i think |
| [01:12:43] | [R]: | you're afraid that its going to make your computer explode or something? |
| [01:14:05] | BLZbubba: | it is just too depressing. for years i thought it couldn't get any worse, and the 0.25 rewrite was completely unusable |
| [01:14:09] | wagnerrp: | no, 0.25 |
| [01:14:49] | BLZbubba: | i was thinking a spotify plugin would be the way to go these days |
| [01:15:27] | [R]: | well if you think you can do better... |
| [01:15:38] | wagnerrp: | does spotify have a public interface? |
| [01:16:03] | wagnerrp: | a public programming interface, that is |
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| [01:17:04] | BLZbubba: | according to their site, yes. i'll grab it and see if it's usable |
| [01:17:29] | wagnerrp: | i'm not seeing it |
| [01:17:39] | BLZbubba: | https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/libspotify/ |
| [01:17:40] | wagnerrp: | i see a bunch of partner devices, and a web player |
| [01:18:49] | wagnerrp: | indeed... looks like it's just then someone going through the effort of writing support in a plugin |
| [01:20:57] | k-man: | [R], it does support it |
| [01:21:32] | k-man: | wagnerrp, so you need your remote to send mythtv a power command via lirc? and then mythtv tells the TV to turn on? |
| [01:21:39] | wagnerrp: | k-man: at the moment, all mythtv allows you to do is bind a keypress to send the power signal to the tv |
| [01:22:15] | k-man: | wagnerrp, ah i see |
| [01:22:56] | k-man: | wagnerrp, which in turn can be mapped to an lirc keypress event right? |
| [01:23:21] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [01:24:17] | k-man: | do we prefer any particular manufacturer of usb-CEC adapters? |
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| [01:25:00] | wagnerrp: | well there's pulse eight... and then pulse eight |
| [01:25:06] | wagnerrp: | and there's also pulse eight |
| [01:25:29] | [R]: | and don't forget |
| [01:25:30] | k-man: | there also seems to be kwikwai and http://rainshadowtech.com/ according to the mythtv wiki |
| [01:25:31] | [R]: | about pulse eight |
| [01:26:19] | wagnerrp: | mythtv uses the libcec library, which means primarily the pulse eight device |
| [01:26:46] | wagnerrp: | i think there is also support on the RPi, but since mythfrontend cannot run on the RPi anyway, that is moot |
| [01:26:48] | ertyu-m: | raspberry-pi work for dec? |
| [01:26:52] | ertyu-m: | err, cec |
| [01:27:01] | k-man: | ah ok |
| [01:27:08] | k-man: | thanks |
| [01:27:20] | ertyu-m: | can you funnel control from a frontend through the RPi though? |
| [01:27:51] | wagnerrp: | apparently there's also support for the Cubox |
| [01:28:01] | wagnerrp: | but that's only slightly less unusable than an RPi |
| [01:31:02] | k-man: | are there any SBCs suitable for mythtv yet? |
| [01:31:09] | k-man: | mythtv-frontend i mean |
| [01:32:26] | wagnerrp: | there's the old ION units |
| [01:32:46] | wagnerrp: | or, i've got two frontends running on intel graphics |
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| [01:37:26] | berglh: | wagnerrp: seems to be some regression bugs in newer kernel versions in the driver for some devices that use the same hardware as the Sony PlayTV. I've enabled/disabled some driver options after having a look at modinfo and also disabled EIT scan on my both of the tuners in MythTV setup, so I'll see how that goes. |
| [01:37:27] | k-man: | wagnerrp, ive got mine runing on an intel graphics chip motherboard too |
| [01:38:08] | berglh: | is the auto EIT auto scan to automatically populate the EPG from DVB-T? |
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| [01:38:36] | wagnerrp: | assuming your use of "SBC" is not referring to industrial PCs slotted into the backplane then any frontend with no expansion cards would qualify |
| [01:38:41] | wagnerrp: | berglh: yes |
| [01:39:39] | berglh: | wagnerrp: if I have that disabled, does it populate it on demand by simply watching each channel mux? |
| [01:39:55] | wagnerrp: | i believe so |
| [01:40:10] | k-man: | wagnerrp, SBC is a broad acronym – but i was refering to boards similar to the likes of rpi or Cubie |
| [01:41:29] | k-man: | i have one of these for FE: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/desktops/thinkce . . . iny/gallery/ |
| [01:41:33] | k-man: | which i think works quite nicely |
| [01:41:53] | wagnerrp: | when i hear SBC, i think this... http://www.okokchina.com/Files/uppic23/Indust . . . Board155.jpg |
| [01:42:16] | k-man: | wagnerrp, fair enough – i think we've had this conversation before :) |
| [01:42:41] | k-man: | i don't think there is a good generic term for boards like RPi and Beagle Bone Black |
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| [01:46:08] | wagnerrp: | those are honestly more SOCs than SBCs |
| [01:46:34] | wagnerrp: | the boards are little more than routing and filtering of the chip |
| [01:46:44] | k-man: | yeah |
| [01:46:46] | k-man: | true |
| [01:47:10] | k-man: | and expanding of the GPIOs so fat human fingers can use them |
| [01:47:18] | k-man: | physically expanding i mean |
| [01:53:39] | berglh: | wagnerrp: between disabling the EIT scan and the driver options everything seems a lot better.. pity I changed so many things at once, don't really know why it is working better |
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| [03:01:53] | trumee: | is there any recommended qam tuner for mythtv? |
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| [03:03:35] | [R]: | trumee: anything that dvb supports |
| [03:03:46] | [R]: | the linuxtv website has information |
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| [03:04:28] | trumee: | i tried my technotrend card but w_scan reported., FATAL: ***** NO USEABLE TERRCABLE_ATSC CARD FOUND. ***** |
| [03:05:07] | trumee: | lspci says card is, Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01) |
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| [03:05:28] | trumee: | w_scan -fa -A2 -c US -X is what i tried |
| [03:05:31] | death_fc: | Would it be better to use the mythbuntu installation or 13.10 plus latest mythtv .27? .. I really want a mythtv for Internet recordings rather than a tuner card.. any suggestions? |
| [03:06:01] | trumee: | it is a dvb-c card afaik, will it work for qam? |
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| [03:06:49] | [R]: | death_fc: sounds like you want a video player then... not a dvr |
| [03:07:01] | [R]: | trumee: dvbc is not qam |
| [03:07:28] | trumee: | so cards are different? |
| [03:07:40] | death_fc: | I want to record the Internet stream though for on demand playback |
| [03:07:47] | [R]: | trumee: huh? |
| [03:07:58] | [R]: | death_fc: "the internet stream"? |
| [03:09:18] | death_fc: | I.e, for certain episodes from mtv or cbs. . I need to make this system similar to the dvr box in the house currently |
| [03:09:20] | trumee: | [R]: the card i have is supported using budget module. i dont really know how american cable works |
| [03:09:53] | [R]: | trumee: 100% different from european cable |
| [03:10:27] | trumee: | ah, so i will need to buy a new card. thats a shame |
| [03:10:43] | [R]: | lol |
| [03:11:55] | trumee: | i hooked up my cable to th TV, and it was showing HD channels. So i wondered why not put my card to mythtv use |
| [03:12:33] | trumee: | i was under the impression that all channels on american cable were encrypted, but that is not the case it seems |
| [03:12:34] | death_fc: | I'm trying to cut the cable.. There are only a few shows my wife watches.. and if I could get a pvr setup to pull those from mtv and cbs this would be possible.. |
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| [03:19:01] | death_fc: | From looking it seems the best way would be to try going with the latest version of mythtv and trying the myth net vision plug in. . Not sure if I can schedule recordings with that though. . |
| [03:19:34] | [R]: | you can't |
| [03:22:29] | death_fc: | ah .. I see.. so the playlater playon combination would likely be the better setup for my situation. . |
| [03:35:17] | wagnerrp: | seems like it would be easier and more reliable to just get a tuner and record cbs/mtv directly |
| [03:35:35] | wagnerrp: | or, stream them from those sites directly |
| [03:36:06] | wagnerrp: | rather than trying to record a stream from a web application that was intentionally designed not to allow such operation |
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| [03:42:01] | trumee: | ATSC is the equivalent of DVB-T in Europe? |
| [03:42:18] | trumee: | and QAM is equivalent of DVB-C? |
| [03:43:29] | wagnerrp: | QAM is really just a modulation, and one used by both DVB-T and DVB-C |
| [03:44:03] | wagnerrp: | but yes, reference to "QAM" as a tuner type means a NA tuner for unencrypted cable |
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| [04:11:59] | trumee: | wagnerrp: thanks |
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| [19:28:23] | ServerSa`: | So in mythweb on the status page, in my Job Queue I have a ton of "Lookup Metadata" that say "Failed with exit status 128". mythbackend.log basically just says the same thing. Any clues? |
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| [19:33:11] | ServerSa`: | So aaah, why is my nickname (ServerSage) banned? |
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| [19:44:56] | SteveGoodey: | ServerSage: I seem to think error 128 might be a permissions problem. |
| [19:46:02] | ServerSage: | SteveGoodey: I'll buy that for a buck, permissions on what though? :P |
| [19:51:42] | SteveGoodey: | Where it's trying to download the metadata to. |
| [19:53:13] | SteveGoodey: | On Mythbuntu I think it's /var/lib/mythtv then banners, coverart etc. |
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| [19:58:04] | wagnerrp_: | ServerSage: your metadata jobs should be logging using the same parameters as the backend/jobqueue that ran it |
| [19:58:20] | wagnerrp_: | how is your 'mythbackend.log' being generated? |
| [19:58:43] | wagnerrp_: | syslog? or did you just redirect stdout to a file? |
| [19:58:49] | ServerSage: | syslog |
| [19:59:06] | wagnerrp_: | then mythmetadatalookup should be logging through syslog as well |
| [20:00:00] | qu: | For some reason, after this month's dist-upgrade, mythfrontend is now murdering X whenever I try to watch a pre-recorded video. https://pastee.org/nmy5p |
| [20:00:01] | ServerSage: | And there is a mythmetadata.log file, but I don't see any failures or errors. |
| [20:00:13] | ServerSage: | Oops, a mythmetadatalookup.log rather. |
| [20:00:26] | wagnerrp_: | you can also manually run mythmetadatalookup with the '-j' parameter from the terminal |
| [20:00:43] | wagnerrp_: | and specify the jobid it was supposed to run as |
| [20:00:45] | qu: | I get about 2 seconds of sound, and then X restarts. I can't log in then. I have to cold-boot. |
| [20:01:02] | wagnerrp_: | that will allow you to log to the terminal |
| [20:01:32] | wagnerrp_: | an error code of 128 just means GENERIC_EXIT_NOT_OK |
| [20:01:35] | wagnerrp_: | so pretty meaningless |
| [20:01:38] | qu: | glxgears runs faster than hell. https://pastee.org/sgwpa I thought it was supposed to run at refresh rate. (60hz) |
| [20:01:46] | ServerSage: | wagnerrp_: K, I'll poke at it for a bit. Thanks. |
| [20:02:48] | ServerSage: | wagnerrp_: Last line is "Movie grabber not functional. Aborting this run" |
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| [20:04:04] | wagnerrp_: | well there you go |
| [20:04:17] | wagnerrp_: | what version are you using? |
| [20:04:30] | wagnerrp_: | (of mythtv) |
| [20:04:31] | ServerSage: | 0.27 |
| [20:05:03] | wagnerrp_: | make sure /usr/[local/]share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py is executable |
| [20:05:25] | wagnerrp_: | also, try to run it to make sure you have the necessary dependencies installed |
| [20:06:02] | ServerSage: | It claims "Everything appears in order" when I run it with --test |
| [20:06:31] | wagnerrp_: | go into the data sources setup in the frontend, and make sure it is actually the selected grabber |
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| [20:10:37] | ServerSage: | wagnerrp_: K, be a few. Working and doing this at the same time. :) |
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| [20:19:46] | ServerSage: | wagnerrp_: So v3 was not selected. Changed that and now it seems to be running correctly. It's at least not returning errors any more. :) |
| [20:19:53] | ServerSage: | wagnerrp_: Thank you! |
| [20:21:22] | wagnerrp_: | selection of v3 over the original (v2.1) should have been forced by a schema update |
| [20:22:26] | ServerSage: | wagnerrp_: Hmm |
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| [20:23:36] | wagnerrp_: | on 0.27, it should have been changed for you. on 0.26, it silently goes ahead and uses the new version if you tell it to use the old version |
| [20:24:17] | esperegu: | where can I set that the overlays (showing the channel,date and what is playing etc) do not fall off the screen? |
| [20:24:21] | esperegu: | (0.26) |
| [20:24:41] | ServerSage: | wagnerrp_: Odd, nothing special about my install/upgrade. Not sure why it didn't. |
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| [20:25:43] | wagnerrp_: | esperegu: are you using a low resolution display, or one with a different aspect ratio than your theme was designed for? |
| [20:25:59] | esperegu: | hdmi with 1080p |
| [20:26:14] | esperegu: | wagnerrp_: the theme is for 720p |
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| [20:26:42] | wagnerrp_: | should work fine. i'm more concerned about a 4:3 screen used on a 16:9 display, or visa-versa |
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| [20:37:00] | esperegu: | mja. that it should work fine does not help me a lot :-) |
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| [22:00:07] | qu: | For some reason, after this month's dist-upgrade, mythfrontend is now murdering X whenever I try to watch a pre-recorded video. https://pastee.org/nmy5p |
| [22:00:17] | qu: | I get about 2 seconds of sound, and then X restarts. I can't log in then. I have to cold-boot. |
| [22:00:27] | qu: | glxgears runs faster than hell. https://pastee.org/sgwpa I thought it was supposed to run at refresh rate. (60hz) |
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| [22:02:49] | qu: | I can watch remotely just fine. |
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| [22:03:30] | qu: | Maybe it's some kind of clash with the video driver. |
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| [23:54:15] | wagnerrp: | qu: nvidia 334 by chance? |
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