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| [00:33:42] | kisak: | I just went from nvidia-drivers 331.38 to 334.21 and mythfrontend is failing to start with what appears to be "MythUIWebBrowser: failed to find our parent screen" |
| [00:38:05] | kisak: | does this make sense to anybody? http://pastebin.com/TQDEE5Zw (the backtrace) |
| [00:39:35] | wahrhaft: | looks familiar, i had a crash in the same place when i attempted to upgrade to 334... i didn't try to troubleshoot very much and just went back to 331 |
| [00:40:27] | wahrhaft: | the drivers were marked unstable in gentoo so i just figured it was an nvidia thing |
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| [00:41:52] | kisak: | certainly is possible |
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| [00:42:49] | kisak: | I went from 331.38 to 331.49 and had a world of hurt land on me, that version does not like my card at all |
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| [00:44:23] | wahrhaft: | i'm also on 331.38... the version i tried appears to be 334.16 |
| [00:49:25] | kisak: | well, thanks for the crossreference |
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| [01:03:55] | kisak: | okay, so there is an open bug report in gentoo's tracker following this at least |
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| [03:29:13] | tgm4883: | why would the recorded programs list in mythweb and the frontend differ? |
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| [03:33:35] | [R]: | tgm4883: filters and groups |
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| [03:33:51] | tgm4883: | nope, no filters set |
| [03:34:15] | tgm4883: | although there was an issue that caused the what I'm trying to fix, but I would think both are looking at the same db table |
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| [04:16:08] | Hilikus: | Hello |
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| [04:20:14] | Hilikus: | pretty much every time (19/20) i change channels live from HD to another HD, it fails with "Error opening jump program file buffer". is there a fix for this? |
| [04:21:08] | [R]: | stop treaing your digital video recorder as a digital video player? |
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| [06:32:04] | Wanton____: | I'm hoping someone has a clue as to where I might start to look with a configuration problem |
| [06:32:19] | Wanton____: | I can't tell mythtv where to look for videos |
| [06:32:39] | Wanton____: | I'm using 0.27 on Os X (the sourceforge version) |
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| [06:32:52] | Wanton____: | with an ubuntu backend |
| [06:33:28] | Wanton____: | but when I'm on the front end it won't bring up the screen to allow me to enter the location for videos |
| [06:33:40] | Wanton____: | I can get into all sorts of other setup screens |
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| [06:34:14] | Wanton____: | just Setup -> Media Settings -> Video Settings -_ General settings doesn't do aything |
| [06:34:24] | Wanton____: | it just hangs |
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| [06:34:30] | Wanton____: | I can escape out |
| [06:35:06] | Wanton____: | but no matter how long I wait it doesn't bring up the dialouge which allows me to put in the file path |
| [06:35:27] | Wanton____: | Any ideas? |
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| [06:46:21] | Wanton____: | I ran mythfrontend from the command line, but the log / output didn't cast any light on the problem |
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| [07:03:55] | Wanton____: | I've just tried it on another Mac, and had the same result |
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| [07:04:10] | Wanton____: | I guess that means it's a feature not a bug? |
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| [11:45:48] | sphery: | moparisthebest: re: running multiple times to get it to finally delete, that's not what's going on... It takes time for the backend to actually remove the recordings, so you were probably just re-running it and re-submitting requests (which get queued up) to delete the recordings. Also, all deletions go into a "delete queue" (Deleted recording group), and remain on disk/in database for a while (anywhere from a couple minutes to a year, ... |
| [11:45:54] | sphery: | ... depending on your settings--unless the space is needed for new recordings in which case they'll be expired from the Deleted recording group). So, really, you probably ran it once to put the recording in Deleted, then again to remove it from Deleted (where--I'd guess--it would have removed itself in 5–20 minutes if you'd just waited) |
| [11:46:44] | sphery: | moparisthebest: also, 0.27 Python bindings are the same as 0.26, so docs are: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/0.26_Python_Bindings |
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| [11:48:15] | sphery: | moparisthebest: and you shouldn't need the Storage Group for anything--it's not required for deletion--but you can get it from the Recorded object |
| [11:48:34] | sphery: | and thanks for working on the script |
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| [12:42:00] | moparisthebest: | sphery: so what I haven't been able to work out from the docs is how to get the full path to a file |
| [12:42:27] | moparisthebest: | I have the basename, say 5455_454424242424.mpg, but without a storage group, I don't know where that is |
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| [12:51:57] | sphery: | moparisthebest: even with the Storage Group, you wouldn't know where that file is--since a Storage Group is a logical mapping of a user-specified name to a list of directories (so you'd only know it's in one of X places, where X is the number of directories in the SG) |
| [12:52:42] | sphery: | though you don't need to know where it is to delete... Why do you want to know? Is this for the "in case it's not there protection"? |
| [12:52:55] | sphery: | if so, that's not required--the backend does that automatically for you |
| [12:53:15] | sphery: | you just need to modify the delete_recordings.py script to remove the interactivity without --force |
| [12:53:52] | sphery: | so --force is used only to say, "delete it no matter what" and the script just does a non-interactive delete regardless |
| [12:54:06] | sphery: | (regardless of whether you use --force, that is) |
| [12:54:45] | sphery: | sorry I didn't explain that well yesterday... I was gone after you asked about it |
| [12:55:39] | sphery: | also, we don't want to be looking at the file directly for a general-purpose delete script since on many setups, file systems exist only on one of many hosts (i.e. no network mounting) |
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| [12:57:39] | sphery: | So, to try to make sure I explain it well... The force argument to a backend delete request tells the backend to delete the recording metadata regardless of whether the file exists or not. Without force, it will delete only if the file also exists to prevent orphaned files when file systems aren't mounted or whatever. |
| [12:58:49] | sphery: | However, in delete_recordings.py, it seems that the --force argument is a forced backend delete request /and/ it also disables interactivity... Ideally we'd split those 2 functions so that you could have a non-interactive delete that's not forced and a forced delete that's still interactive |
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| [13:06:17] | Twiggy2cents: | hey sphery does your find premiers power rule no longer work? |
| [13:06:41] | Twiggy2cents: | Mine is a copy of yours and doesnt seem to work anymore |
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| [13:09:03] | sphery: | Twiggy2cents: I've noticed that sometimes the premier isn't episode #...001 (networks airing episodes out of order or similar), so I've added a clause to mine that looks for Pilot in the subtitle |
| [13:09:55] | Twiggy2cents: | Mine has LIKE 'EP%0001' OR program.subtitle = 'Pilot') AND and I didnt have any premiers |
| [13:10:08] | Twiggy2cents: | Including one that had pilot in the title |
| [13:10:16] | sphery: | you mean subtitle, right? |
| [13:10:32] | Twiggy2cents: | Umm I will pastebin it |
| [13:10:47] | sphery: | I have Crisis showing as a premiere on Mar 16 |
| [13:10:52] | Twiggy2cents: | http://pastebin.com/3KC14ibA |
| [13:10:55] | Twiggy2cents: | I did not |
| [13:10:58] | Twiggy2cents: | I had to search for it |
| [13:11:14] | sphery: | (glad I haven't done my new rules for this 2 week period :) |
| [13:11:39] | ** sphery guesses UTC ** | |
| [13:11:49] | Twiggy2cents: | There is more than just crisis starting this week too! |
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| [13:13:24] | Twiggy2cents: | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /340223.html |
| [13:13:43] | Twiggy2cents: | I didnt read the whole thing but I think you are right with the UTC change |
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| [13:16:50] | sphery: | yeah, the updated SQL is at: https://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/myth . . . dit.cpp#n551 |
| [13:17:13] | sphery: | just add in your pilot clause, too |
| [13:18:00] | sphery: | and I think I got all the other (interesting) first eps, already |
| [13:18:18] | sphery: | but thanks for the warning that there are more :) |
| [13:20:44] | Twiggy2cents: | I just added CONVERT_TZ with the UTC and SYSTEM stuff |
| [13:20:48] | Twiggy2cents: | It seems to be working now |
| [13:21:04] | sphery: | but, hey, users said that any sane program stores all dates in UTC, so we switched (because who knows better than users how to design a program) and now users can schedule those all-to-important shows that appear at 2am on /either/ DST changeover day that occurs each year without having to worry about adding start early/end late |
| [13:21:23] | sphery: | of course, now /every/ single time you create a custom recording rule, you have to worry about TZ |
| [13:21:40] | Twiggy2cents: | What is the correct way to record a premiere? Do I make another rule? |
| [13:22:09] | sphery: | so we fixed the 0.00001% problem and only made things harder for 100% :) |
| [13:23:02] | sphery: | I generally use MythWeb and just change it to record every episode (rather than "schedule via first episodes" or whatever it says), and it creates a new rule |
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| [13:23:21] | sphery: | there's a way to do it using mythfrontend, but I don't remember the approach (been too long since I did it that way) |
| [13:23:34] | Twiggy2cents: | Okay, I wish mythweb had a way to preview a rules schedule |
| [13:23:55] | sphery: | yeah, that would be nice |
| [13:24:00] | Twiggy2cents: | If I do deactivated I have a bunch of earlier showing episodes |
| [13:24:12] | sphery: | might get that as part of webfrontend (the built-in wep app to replace mythweb) |
| [13:25:02] | Twiggy2cents: | Cool |
| [13:25:36] | sphery: | or, at the least, it wouldn't be too much work for someone to add it to webfrontend (but a lot of work to add to mythweb) |
| [13:25:58] | sphery: | same with Previously Recorded (which we need in web interface--the mythfrontend ui for it is unmanageable) |
| [13:27:21] | sphery: | though changing previously recorded in mythfrontend to a 2+ list view (by title and/or first-letter-of-title) when sorted alphabetically would make it quite usable |
| [13:27:48] | sphery: | actually, even when sorted by time, the title->subtitles would work |
| [13:28:17] | Twiggy2cents: | This is OT but is there any way to jump multiple programs in mythvideo? Like a +5 skip for when you are browsing a large collection? |
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| [13:31:08] | sphery: | scrolling through 500(?) episodes of The Simpsons is definitely annoying when I'm trying to get to Sleepy Hollow (and that's after scrolling through the thousands of other episodes of other shows that come before that) |
| [13:31:30] | sphery: | Twiggy2cents: Page up/down should work |
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| [13:33:26] | sphery: | seems 541 episodes of The Simpsons so far... wow |
| [13:33:55] | sphery: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Simp . . . 2.80.9314.29 |
| [13:34:30] | ** sphery is sad to think of all the time he's wasted on all those episodes ** | |
| [13:34:53] | sphery: | but at 1.75x, at least I've wasted less time than some :) |
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| [15:52:28] | moparisthebest: | sphery: you want to test this out? I don't really have any recordings I want to delete: http://sprunge.us/BKHa |
| [15:52:35] | moparisthebest: | note, it changes the definition of force |
| [15:52:54] | moparisthebest: | .delete() has 2 parameters, rerecord and force, both of which are false by default according to the api |
| [15:53:03] | moparisthebest: | this lets you set either of them, with --force or --rerecord |
| [15:53:19] | moparisthebest: | that takes effect whether it is ran interactivly or not |
| [15:53:33] | moparisthebest: | the old --force behavior has been replaced with --non-interactive |
| [15:53:44] | moparisthebest: | which, unsurprisingly, deletes without questions |
| [15:55:02] | sphery: | moparisthebest: sounds good... I don't have any to delete, now (I delete as I watch, so I don't have any unwatched). I'll try to give it a run soon. Might be good to ask wagnerrp_ for his feedback, too, since he's the Python expert. |
| [15:58:37] | sphery: | wagnerrp_: FWIW, the above changes (^^^) are meant to allow the use of delete_recordings.py from non-interactive scripts (allowing use of backend forced delete when required/desired and allowing use of allow re-record) |
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| [16:08:20] | moparisthebest: | sphery: wagnerrp_: http://sprunge.us/BKHa?python for python highlighting, changes were pretty insignificant |
| [16:08:51] | moparisthebest: | also the docs only had docs for .delete() on Program, not Recorded, so I'm not 100% sure that's right |
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| [16:16:49] | moparisthebest: | not related to the above |
| [16:17:15] | moparisthebest: | is there a way to re-pull listings? like if one channel is just full of 1-hour 'DTV Program' |
| [16:17:16] | moparisthebest: | ? |
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| [16:44:29] | sphery: | moparisthebest: North America, using Schedules Direct? If so: "mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all" And you may want to set up your normal scheduled runs to use --dd-grab-all, too. See http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/449426#449426 and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 49416#449416 for details about --dd-grab-all . |
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| [16:45:21] | tlhiv_laptop: | is there a way to make MythMusic start in "Playlist Editor – Tree" view? |
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| [17:26:20] | moparisthebest: | perfect sphery thanks again |
| [17:26:57] | tlhiv_laptop: | i'm trying to create my own custom mainmenu.xml ... why is MUSIC_CREATE_PLAYLIST not a valid menu action? it's in musicmenu.xml |
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| [17:42:26] | moparisthebest: | but without force it still deleted the record from the database |
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