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[17:17:00] mintnoob: hello
[17:17:07] mintnoob: anybody home?
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[20:04:11] benklop: good afternoon
[20:04:41] benklop: i'm having an issue changing channels in live TV
[20:05:56] benklop: works if I change between channels on a multiplex, but changing between carriers doesn't work
[20:07:35] benklop: i've just built the latest .27 fixes on both the front and back ent
[20:08:48] benklop: *end. no giant moving trees were harmed in the building of this system
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[21:17:32] tlhiv_laptop: wagnerrp_: around?
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[21:19:14] KShots: I'm getting an odd issue with coverart and fanart with 0.27-fixes branch
[21:19:34] KShots: My frontend can't seem to see them, though they do appear in the storage group directories
[21:19:56] KShots: The frontend displays the following when I select a video: 2014-03–02 16:14:48.603514 E MythUIHelper: LoadScaleImage(mv_browse_nocover.png) Unable to find image file
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[21:21:00] KShots: I've erased all paths from my frontend's video settings (it apparently had them set), and I also removed my user's ~/.mythtv directory (hoping to start with a clean slate)
[21:21:16] MartinT: KShots: I have the same issue...
[21:21:44] MartinT: have you checked whether they have the videometadata entries have an art file set?
[21:22:16] KShots: Luckily, I can check that now... hold on
[21:22:45] KShots: If I hit 'i' and edit the video metadata, they have both coverart and fanart set
[21:23:01] MartinT: I was meaning in the db...
[21:23:21] KShots: Which table would that be stored in?
[21:23:26] MartinT: videometadata
[21:23:31] MartinT: 1 per video file
[21:24:19] MartinT: saying that, using "i" on mine shows no artwork set...
[21:24:29] MartinT: it's only for newly looked up ones though...
[21:24:44] KShots: All but one entry have entries under the fanart column of that table
[21:24:56] MartinT: fair enough, not the same issue
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[21:25:43] KShots: ... but it's possible that the missing entry is my test case
[21:26:09] KShots: n/m, no it's not
[21:27:41] KShots: I also noticed some mess leftover when I removed my ~/.mythtv folder... tmdb.py was complaining about a missing cache file in there and refused to run until I touched it... I wonder if there's anything else that's misbehaving. Is there a clean way to wipe the slate clean on a frontend?
[21:28:04] MartinT: sudo rm -rf /
[21:28:14] MartinT: then reinstall
[21:28:15] KShots: lol, that would still leave the db
[21:28:29] MartinT: not if you use a new hostname ;)
[21:28:30] KShots: multiple machines in play here
[21:31:41] benklop: I'm getting the error "Error opening jump program file buffer" when trying to change channels in Live TV, if i'm trying to change to something other than a multiplex with the same carrier as my current channel
[21:32:01] benklop: any suggestions what I can do to get rid of this behavior?
[21:32:08] benklop: i'm on .27 fixes
[21:32:16] benklop: built this morning
[21:32:17] MartinT: KShots: the place where images is stored is the "themecache" directory if I remember correctly
[21:32:54] MartinT: changing the theme means it needs to re-cache all the images on the frontend
[21:34:05] KShots: so... changing the theme may trigger a refresh of the coverart and fanart for the frontend?
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[21:34:44] MartinT: it will, but it's stored local to each theme... it wouldn't fix the old theme
[21:35:29] KShots: Can I simply remove the old theme and attempt to re-download it?
[21:36:46] KShots: No good... they're still all blank
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[21:41:04] KShots: I'll try manually defining the paths in the frontend and see if that works (bypassing storage groups)
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[21:42:37] KShots: again... no good :(
[21:43:06] MartinT: so you have no images for anything?
[21:43:17] KShots: I guess the good news is the error message has gone away... but there's no art
[21:43:22] KShots: Nope
[21:43:35] MartinT: that strikes me as a storage group problem then...
[21:43:47] KShots: I've tried clearing the metadata and re-downloading it, no art
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[21:44:26] MartinT: yes, if there is a storage group problem, it could be that the frontend thinks the images are local, therefore not going to the Be to get them
[21:45:10] KShots: How do I diagnose an SG problem? The metadata downloads successfully to the correct directory
[21:45:10] benklop: any chance someone could at least tell me if live TV channel changing works for them on latest .27 fixes, so I know whether i'm looking at an environmental / configuration issue or it's just broken?
[21:45:53] KShots: benklop: Sorry, I haven't tried the livetv stuff in years :/
[21:46:25] MartinT: benklop: it is working as far as I'm aware... I'm sure we'd hear a lot of noise if it were a wider issue
[21:46:52] KShots: MatrinT: On the frontend, the paths I gave it in the FE setup point to the SG folders over NFS
[21:46:59] MartinT: and it works for me... there is a known issue with the OSD not displaying the correct channel's data though
[21:47:19] MartinT: KShots: remove them...
[21:47:33] KShots: I'll remove the paths again...
[21:47:34] MartinT: you shouldn't have to mount them on nfs, and that could be your issue
[21:47:48] MartinT: it should go over myth:///
[21:49:19] KShots: No good... no path and still no coverart displaying
[21:49:56] MartinT: just checked my settings and I have a path in there, but it's being ignored
[21:50:07] MartinT: is it just 1 machine that isn't working?
[21:50:20] KShots: I haven't checked my other FE yet...
[21:50:29] KShots: brb
[21:50:32] MartinT: I would check it before going any further
[21:55:39] KShots: The other FE is also not coming up with anything. It has paths set for artwork, which I doubt I ever set (considering this FE only has an IR remote and no keyboard)
[22:00:41] KShots: It bothers me that there isn't an error message any more... myth seems to think there's nothing wrong
[22:01:12] benklop: MartinT: sure.. i just haven't got anything particulary unusual set up. I'm using a hdhomerun, a backend with NFS storage and a remote front end. Thanks for responding anyway :D
[22:02:23] MartinT: KShots, it sounds like a backend error with storage groups... when was the last time you restarted the BE?
[22:02:33] KShots: Maybe an hour ago
[22:04:02] KShots: just restarted, no issues... the backend logs have no errors in them – just logging connections and disconnections with my FEs
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[22:05:51] MartinT: so, to confirm, your BE is setup to use Storage Groups for the artwork, you've checked the BE Dir's and images are there...
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[22:06:25] KShots: MartinT: Correct, they're all there, the BE successfully downloads the images to the correct locations
[22:06:39] MartinT: ok... try this...
[22:07:59] MartinT: in a browser...
[22:08:23] MartinT: http://<backendid>:6544/Content/GetImag . . . lename=<a filename you know exists>
[22:08:46] MartinT: it must be a fanart filename though
[22:09:02] KShots: Ok, so something from the fanart folder, I'll try one
[22:09:11] MartinT: s/backendid/backendip/
[22:10:35] KShots: Interesting...
[22:10:41] MartinT: did it work?
[22:10:50] KShots: I get an xml document stating that the file is missing
[22:11:28] KShots: That explains why they're all blank then... but how did they get there in the first place?
[22:13:39] KShots: SG config looks correct... the Fanart SG is defined, and the file I just tried to look up does in fact exist in that location
[22:15:18] MartinT: I may have given you a wrong url... gimme 2 secs
[22:16:36] MartinT: KShots: the parameter is "FileName" not "Filename"
[22:16:54] KShots: Yeah, that came up immediately with an image
[22:16:56] MartinT: 0.27 has case-sensitive parameters... fixed in master...
[22:17:13] MartinT: hmmm... that is interesting
[22:19:13] MartinT: I'm afraid I'm out of specific ideas... I'd advise turning on my verbose logging on BE and FE to see what error might be being swallowed
[22:19:26] MartinT: and I have to shoot off...
[22:20:14] KShots: ok, thanks
[22:22:40] KShots: Frontend now says this: Found Image : myth://Coverart@[FD4D:FEFA:CC54:0:240:63FF:FE . . . coverart.jpg
[22:22:51] KShots: Still no art, and only that one odd success :(
[22:24:43] benklop: MartinT: thanks again. it works fine from a different frontend, so I guess I've got some hunting to do.
[22:27:41] MartinT: KShots: could be an IPv6 issue...
[22:28:24] MartinT: are all your frontends using IPv6?
[22:28:31] KShots: MartinT: If I disable the IPv6 address in mythtv-setup for my BE, would that prevent the FEs from attempting to use IPv6?
[22:28:52] KShots: Yeah, everything is using IPv6, but IPv4 also works... but everything is set by DNS lookup, and IPv6 addresses come first
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[22:30:19] MartinT: turn on verbose logging on the frontend that works... see if that is showing the same log output
[22:30:45] KShots: That was with verbose logging on (--loglevel debug)
[22:31:03] KShots: That was the only related message I saw... nothing complaining of any problems
[22:31:13] MartinT: so match that against the one that you said works
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[22:31:19] MartinT: see if it's showing the same url
[22:31:41] KShots: It pops up in a browser, yes
[22:32:20] MartinT: no, I mean you said one frontend works, and another doesn't...
[22:32:34] KShots: No, I never said one worked, they both had the same issue
[22:32:35] MartinT: turn on verbose logging on each, and see if the log outputs are the same
[22:32:39] MartinT: ah
[22:33:21] KShots: I don't really see an option in mythtv-setup to turn IPv6 off... only to set the listen address (no option for "none")
[22:33:49] KShots: Maybe if I set the loopback address, the FEs would get a "connection refused" and retry IPv4?
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[22:34:10] MartinT: it's more about configuring the frontend to connect on the IPv4 address
[22:34:25] KShots: I thought that was all done via UPnP
[22:34:33] KShots: (and mysql settings)
[22:35:53] lapion: hmm according to the mythtv frontend logs even though I am not using pulseaudio as output or even have pulse audio installed the frontend allways tries pulseaudio first
[22:35:54] KShots: The only thing I see in ~/.mythtv/config.xml is the IP for the db
[22:35:59] MartinT: you can set it yourself, in the setup
[22:36:07] MartinT: for the frontend
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[22:37:29] lapion: the frontend also tries opengl and vdpau while I have it set for vaapi
[22:38:38] KShots: MartinT: I don't see an FE option for BE address, although I do remember it in mythtv-setup for the address the BE broadcasts (and it's set to an IPv4 address there)
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[22:40:17] KShots: (mythtv-setup) General->(First "tab" of the wizard)(Master Backend groupbox)IP address: 10.4.12.19
[22:40:34] MartinT: hmmm
[22:41:00] KShots: ... and yet, it's clearly doing IPv6 stuff with the coverart from the earlier log message
[22:41:38] MartinT: I'm sure I've seen it, I've set it once or twice...
[22:41:49] MartinT: watching something at the moment so I can't try
[22:42:03] KShots: The FE only has an option for setting the DB IP address
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[22:42:53] MartinT: that's the one
[22:43:36] KShots: Yeah, that's also set to 10.4.12.19 (IPv4)
[22:43:43] MartinT: :/
[22:44:42] MartinT: no idea, I've got run, sorry...
[22:44:57] KShots: ok, well thanks for the effort
[22:45:01] bill6502: KShots: In mythtv-setup, what is the value of: Local IPv6 address?
[22:45:30] KShots: bill6502: Hold on, lemme start it up again
[22:46:33] KShots: It's FD4D:FEFA:CC54:0:240:63FF:FEFE:3D4B
[22:47:05] ** KShots isn't worried about giving the actual IP – it's a non-routable local IP **
[22:50:33] bill6502: I use a unique local address too and have no trouble getting my recording's fanart/coverart. Ah, reading the backlog, your issue is with Video artwork (and Recordings work OK?)
[22:50:51] KShots: Yes, recordings work fine
[22:50:59] KShots: Just artwork is not working
[22:58:38] KShots: (specifically, artwork for videos, not recordings)
[22:58:44] KShots: (and videos also play fine)
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[23:35:32] bill6502: KShots: In Frontend->Setup->Media Settings->Video Settings->General, are all of the directories on the 1st page blank? Mine are. Failing that, I'd agree with MartinT, start the FE with -v file and if your backend is already running, use: mythbackend --setverbose file and rerun your tests. See of the additional logging reveals anything.
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