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| [12:43:07] | TLE: | Hallo. When I search for channels I find lots of them, but they are never actually added to the database. Looking through mythtv-setup.log shows that the mysql query fails, "columns 'sisstandard' cannot be null" |
| [12:43:20] | TLE: | pastebin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6942937/ |
| [12:44:08] | TLE: | I have the same problem as in this issue: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=158027 with mythtv-backend that cannot see my card info |
| [12:44:35] | TLE: | running femon while adding the card allows it to see the info, but does not solve the problem with the channels, any ideas? |
| [12:46:42] | TLE: | Oh I should say I'm on a freshly installed mythbuntu 12.04.3, mythtv version 0.25.2-15-g46cab93 |
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| [14:12:30] | wagnerrp: | TLE: upgrade to a recent version. 0.25 is no longer supported |
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| [14:31:13] | TLE: | wagnerrp: ah ok, seems there is a little bit of a void there in the mythbuntu support, since they don't release anything else than LST (last one is 12.04.3) and that doesn't support anything else than 0.25 |
| [14:31:52] | wagnerrp: | LTS ships with 0.25, because you cannot upgrade versions of software on an LTS release |
| [14:32:09] | wagnerrp: | mythbuntu supports 0.27 on LTS through their own repository, that can be enabled in MCC |
| [14:32:46] | TLE: | wagnerrp: ahhhhh, that I didn't catche, will upgrade and try |
| [14:32:59] | TLE: | wagnerrp: thanks |
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| [15:31:53] | TLE: | wagnerrp: works, a couldn't find the channels.conf import options, but it know the transports from the last time and was able to scan and this time they were actually added, thanks again |
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| [19:42:01] | MartinT: | anyone know of a device that would let me host sata drives, out side my case, but connected to the internal sata connectors? |
| [19:42:37] | wagnerrp: | so an esata panel? |
| [19:42:41] | MartinT: | kinda like a usb caddy, but just a standard sata connection... |
| [19:42:52] | wagnerrp: | or are you talking standard internal drives? |
| [19:43:02] | MartinT: | no, needs to be standard sata, need it to connect to a raid array... |
| [19:43:24] | wagnerrp: | so you're going to have bare drives sitting outside your PC case? |
| [19:43:30] | wagnerrp: | that sounds... troubling |
| [19:43:39] | MartinT: | yes, essentially, I've just bought a pc that can't fit more than 4 drives... |
| [19:43:43] | MartinT: | and I need 6 |
| [19:44:07] | MartinT: | and I can't get a bigger case, as it's a dell... |
| [19:45:11] | MartinT: | I was thinking of getting an eSata card with 2 external connectors, then putting 2 of the 6 (that aren't required to be raid) external... |
| [19:45:53] | MartinT: | but I only have 2 PCIe, no onboard graphics, and there are suggestions online that seem to say that it won't boot to a PCI display |
| [19:46:07] | wagnerrp: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182180 |
| [19:46:15] | wagnerrp: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400101 |
| [19:47:43] | MartinT: | ooooo interesting... |
| [19:48:42] | MartinT: | so I should be able to power them through the enclosure, but have them connected directly to the board... |
| [19:49:24] | MartinT: | I wasn't aware that eSata was just a re-pined sata connection... |
| [19:49:25] | wagnerrp: | this is a Dell, with onboard RAID, that only has room for four drives? |
| [19:49:33] | wagnerrp: | is this some kind of 1U server chassis? |
| [19:49:50] | MartinT: | no, T5400, desktop... picked it up cheap on flebay |
| [19:50:08] | MartinT: | I have a PERC5/i that I'm putting in it... |
| [19:50:28] | MartinT: | well, moving from my current Q8400 server... |
| [19:50:56] | MartinT: | T5400, dual X5450 xeon's, 8GB RAM.... £70 |
| [19:51:14] | wagnerrp: | looks like there's two 5.25" bays |
| [19:51:21] | MartinT: | yup... |
| [19:51:26] | MartinT: | and 2 3.5" |
| [19:51:50] | MartinT: | plus I think I could squeeze a 5th in the media bay... |
| [19:52:01] | MartinT: | but power could be an issue |
| [19:52:20] | wagnerrp: | it has an 875W power supply. how could power _ever_ be an issue? |
| [19:53:08] | MartinT: | oh, didn't see that... |
| [19:53:33] | MartinT: | but with dual xeon's... I would have thought that they could have a significant draw |
| [19:53:46] | wagnerrp: | yeah. maybe 100W each |
| [19:54:01] | MartinT: | then the PCIe RAID card... |
| [19:54:06] | MartinT: | plus 2 tunner cards |
| [19:54:17] | wagnerrp: | the RAID card is likely a little ARM chip |
| [19:54:28] | wagnerrp: | and the tuner cards aren't going to be more than ~10W each |
| [19:54:37] | wagnerrp: | if they needed more, they would have some impressive cooling on them |
| [19:54:38] | MartinT: | fair enough... |
| [19:54:49] | wagnerrp: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994150 |
| [19:55:26] | wagnerrp: | there you go, three more internal drives |
| [19:55:32] | MartinT: | I haven't worried about power for a long time... |
| [19:55:52] | wagnerrp: | i've got four of those (or something similar) in my backend |
| [19:56:41] | wagnerrp: | you can also get five-in-three units |
| [19:56:47] | wagnerrp: | but you don't have three bays available |
| [19:56:49] | MartinT: | ooo... if I can fit one in the media bay, that might be a goer... |
| [19:57:27] | wagnerrp: | that should be seven already |
| [19:57:28] | MartinT: | says it only needs 2... |
| [19:57:36] | wagnerrp: | four internal, plus three more in the hotswap |
| [19:57:40] | wagnerrp: | right, this is three-in-two |
| [19:57:54] | MartinT: | no, there are 2 standard 3.5... |
| [19:57:54] | wagnerrp: | you can get 3-in-2, 4-in-3, and 5-in-3 units |
| [19:58:01] | MartinT: | then 2 5.25... |
| [19:58:06] | MartinT: | plus 1 media bay |
| [19:58:24] | wagnerrp: | yes. this will take those two 5.25" bays, and stuff three 3.5" drives in them |
| [19:58:35] | MartinT: | so that's 5... |
| [19:58:39] | wagnerrp: | 7 |
| [19:58:45] | wagnerrp: | you already had four internal |
| [19:59:03] | ** MartinT is confused... ** | |
| [19:59:04] | wagnerrp: | or were you going to put one drive in each 5.25" bay? |
| [19:59:10] | MartinT: | yes |
| [19:59:40] | wagnerrp: | so little flexibility for such a large machine |
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| [19:59:57] | MartinT: | I know... but dual xeons for £70.... DUAL XEONS |
| [20:00:18] | wagnerrp: | i suppose it's awfully short for a dual CPU system |
| [20:00:44] | wagnerrp: | most dual CPU towers are an extra ~6" longer |
| [20:00:51] | MartinT: | yeah, we've just got the optiplex 9020's at work, and they are massive... but only got up to i7 |
| [20:01:21] | MartinT: | tell you what though, this thing is the heaviest machine I've ever seen (for the size) |
| [20:01:31] | MartinT: | it's like the case is made out of lead |
| [20:01:58] | wagnerrp: | i've dealt with large server cases before |
| [20:02:30] | MartinT: | me too... 4U I think is the biggest... but for a desktop... |
| [20:02:52] | wagnerrp: | where my server currently lives... http://digital-c.com.ua/catalog/codegen/s-201_7.jpg |
| [20:03:05] | MartinT: | I'd go as far as saying it ways more than a 2U DL360 G7 |
| [20:03:58] | wagnerrp: | and desktop... http://silverstone-usa.com/images/FT02/FT02B_01.JPG |
| [20:04:08] | wagnerrp: | that server, filled with hard drives, is probably 75lbs |
| [20:04:19] | wagnerrp: | (~30kg) |
| [20:10:24] | wagnerrp: | you said X5450s? old Core2 units? |
| [20:11:00] | wagnerrp: | the memory on those things ate a lot of power |
| [20:11:19] | wagnerrp: | but still, we're only talking a few tens of watts |
| [20:11:48] | MartinT: | yeah, it's old Xeons... non-HT, but still VT-x |
| [20:12:38] | wagnerrp: | what do you mean media test failure, you're lit up to show that the link is active |
| [20:13:59] | ** wagnerrp digs around for one of his counterfeit pro/1000s ** | |
| [20:21:22] | MartinT: | I liberated a couple of those from a previous employers grave yard... good cards... |
| [20:21:37] | wagnerrp: | these were purchased from newegg new |
| [20:21:43] | wagnerrp: | both failed after about 6 months |
| [20:21:57] | MartinT: | really? I thought they had a lifetime guarantee |
| [20:21:58] | wagnerrp: | sent them in for RMA replacement only to be told they had been confiscated by intel |
| [20:22:20] | MartinT: | wtf? |
| [20:22:26] | wagnerrp: | they were counterfeit |
| [20:22:33] | MartinT: | on newegg? |
| [20:22:37] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [20:22:54] | MartinT: | jeez... who can you trust nowadays... |
| [20:23:07] | wagnerrp: | well they did get replaced... |
| [20:23:33] | wagnerrp: | whether it was intel or newegg, someone honored the warranty |
| [20:23:45] | MartinT: | I'm just sizing up and I don't think that cage will fit in :/ |
| [20:24:08] | MartinT: | with the big ass fan on the back... |
| [20:24:09] | wagnerrp: | too long? |
| [20:24:21] | MartinT: | yeah... |
| [20:24:43] | wagnerrp: | nonsense. that's not a big ass fan |
| [20:25:05] | wagnerrp: | http://hiscrivener.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/big-ass-fans.jpg |
| [20:25:13] | MartinT: | back of the dvd drive is currently about 1cm from the PSU... |
| [20:26:00] | MartinT: | and it's not looking rosey on the media bay front... |
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| [20:48:42] | skd5aner: | counterfeit harware sold through trusted channels amazes me – every time I read one of those stories |
| [20:50:00] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I've see those fans in use at stadiums before |
| [20:51:07] | skd5aner: | Always enjoyed their cute pun-of-a-name |
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| [20:59:54] | buu: | skd5aner: We have a couple at my local outdoor theatre |
| [20:59:56] | buu: | They're fun |
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| [22:22:53] | wseltzer: | is playing recordings in-progress from a remote backend a known challenge? |
| [22:23:39] | wseltzer: | i.e., they stop at the point that was "end" at the time the watching was begun |
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