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Wednesday, February 5th, 2014, 00:00 UTC
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[00:07:09] cones: searching for it but how can i clear out all my channels?
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[00:25:39] scheinbc: Hi. I'm having some trouble getting channels on my computer. I have mythtv 0.27 and a usb hauppauge 950Q tuner card, and I'm running Ubuntu 13.10
[00:26:42] scheinbc: when i try to scan for channels, the channel scanner says "No Lock," and the signal strength always stays at 71% no matter where or how I move my antenna.
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[01:21:04] wagnerrp: for some reason, i can't stop watching Intelligence
[01:21:10] wagnerrp: it's like a horrible train wreck
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[01:21:31] wagnerrp: last night's episode begs us to please, thing of the children
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[01:27:40] jluttine: has anyone managed to get bluray working using libmmbd? i've tried for a few hours now but can't get it working.. i get an error that "could not find a/v decoder" :(
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[01:47:13] andreaz: Is the channelscanner in the recent version okay? I found transponders that got +8Mhz in dtv_multiplex. Or is this a fault of the network providers delivering faulty tables?
[01:48:03] andreaz: But w_scan and dvbscan afterwards get the right ones for all channels...
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[02:26:17] Hydroponx: I have cable card so I don't scan, but, i didn't have any problems due to the channel scanner when I last tried (0.25 and 0.26)
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[03:03:24] andreaz: Hm. Strange. I really need to correct 2 or 3 transponders in the database. Looked like the scanner added 8Mhz to the right frequency. I guess, soon i will buy some cablecards too. Im sick of dvb-t here. Less stations every month or replaced by commercial stations like hse24 or qvc and such stuff... :/ Not worth the work anymore...
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[03:10:53] wagnerrp: you get (subjected to) qvc over there too?
[03:11:13] wagnerrp: no, wait...
[03:11:27] wagnerrp: dvb-t, 8mhz, and cablecard? terms aren't matching up
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[03:58:44] Hilikus: what can I use as replacement of mythlink.pl in 0.27? i want to have a readable list of my episodes to move some to a hard disk
[04:00:37] wagnerrp: why not use mythlink.pl?
[04:01:19] Hilikus: it says in the wiki it is only supported until 0.25
[04:01:34] wagnerrp: probably because no one has updated the wiki to say otherwise
[04:01:55] Hilikus: ah ok! i will try that then. thank you wagnerrp
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[05:27:03] andreaz: wagnerrp: At the moment my setup base on dvb-t. But the stations here run away from that medium more and more, so i need to swap over to something. dvb-s is no option cause i cant build a dish here, so i might buy som dvb-c cards in the future... Just saw something gone wrong with some of the transponders (reinstalled everything, gentoo, mythtv, ...) after scanning. And yes, qvc is here too... But sadly not only. A crapload of differ
[05:27:54] wagnerrp: but cablecard? doesn't exist anywhere there is dvb-t/c
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[05:28:19] wagnerrp: or do you mean dvb-c cards for cable, and not specifically "cablecard"s?
[05:28:31] andreaz: I meant dvb-c, yeah... Sorry.. :)
[05:28:47] andreaz: I translate it directly. We would call it cablecard here.. :)
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[18:55:36] lapion: does anyone know how to correctly fix the cannot import aptmessagedialog problem ?
[18:56:14] lapion: hmm this is a muthbuntu only problem sorry wrong channel
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[20:12:35] KWisher_mac: how do i toggle subtitles on/off during video playback?
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[20:31:03] natanojl: KWisher_mac: Try the T key
[20:31:32] KWisher_mac: thx
[20:31:38] natanojl: np
[20:32:09] KWisher_mac: must be no embedded st's in this vid
[20:35:20] natanojl: KWisher_mac: you can also open the menu by pressing M and enable/disable subtitles from there
[20:36:07] KWisher_mac: i found nothing in the menu
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[20:57:33] andreaz: Advice on good working dual dvb-c cards?
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[21:07:17] Hydr0p0nX: looked at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards  ?
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[22:19:57] andreaz: Yeah. Al little. But would like to get also some infos from users how they really work. I consider buy 2 of them to have 4 tuners.
[22:25:37] justinh: you know you can only decrypt cable tv with actual hardware CAMs for mythtv, right?
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[22:25:47] justinh: I mean that's the only *supported* method here
[22:25:55] andreaz: For some cards, you need to get a media-build-package from the manufacturer. I would like to stay on the code from linuxtv. I am afraid, if they drop development of their tree (the manufacturer), im stuck with a brick...
[22:26:54] vslap: I have verizon fios coming in to our building. They are saying QAM is available. I want to setup a central server that has some kind of QAM card in it, which then can forward the streams over our internal LAN to some kind of raspberry pi or similar setup. Is such a thing possible? Is there an alternative to this kind of thing?
[22:27:14] andreaz: Here i got a handfull of free channels without need for a cam card in sd. Just hd is crypted here.
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[22:28:27] clever: vslap: i dont know about fios, but my fiber setup provides the mpegts streams directly over rtp, no qam in sight
[22:29:13] vslap: I don't know how that helps me. I mentioned wanting to route everything from our server cabinet and the rep said if they TV has an internal digital QAM tuner, we can use that.
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[22:29:49] clever: sounds like they have a different setup
[22:32:10] andreaz: justinh: I just stick the cable into my tv and also get unencrypted digital channels with it, but in sd. You think the tv decrypt even those channels? Im not sure. I dont have any receiver from the cable provider.
[22:32:53] vslap: Yea... I just need to figure out, what kind of card I can get in my computer, if its third party or I need a cablecard from VZ. Then I can get a feed into my system. I need some way to then take the video/picture, and pipe it over the network, so the TV with a raspberry pi or beaglebone type thing with HDMI can spit out the feed.
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[22:36:21] justinh: raspberry pi kinda sucks with broadcast h.264 streams I've tested it with
[22:36:43] vslap: Ok so beagle bone. W/e something with HDMI: What have you tried that did work?
[22:36:46] justinh: and you're also in the wrong channel for that cos mythtv won't run on the pi
[22:36:58] vslap: Yea but it might be needed on the server.
[22:37:09] vslap: And similar things have been done by people in this channel, its very topical
[22:37:16] justinh: beaglebone might not be much better
[22:37:29] KWisher_mac: justinh: yes it will, i did it
[22:37:44] justinh: KWisher_mac: mythtv on the Pi? Not mythfrontend
[22:37:45] vslap: I can run 1080p fine over my rpi idk what your talking about either.
[22:37:51] KWisher_mac: yes
[22:37:56] justinh: MUH TEN EIGHTY PEE
[22:38:12] KWisher_mac: i said it did it and it worked
[22:38:15] justinh: none of you guys ever talk about precise codec definitions, or bitrate
[22:38:24] justinh: you could have a 1080P video at 2kbits/sec
[22:38:28] KWisher_mac: but not for livetv
[22:38:45] vslap: It wasn't live tv, if was a blue ray rip basically.
[22:38:47] justinh: the BBC testcard looked like artifacty crap played on the Pi
[22:38:48] KWisher_mac: it played recordings and videos just fine
[22:39:06] justinh: the BBC off air recording looked like artifacty crap too
[22:39:15] justinh: only 10mbit 1080i
[22:39:21] vslap: At home I watch dvd rips from my library, can't tell the difference between it and the disc.
[22:39:51] justinh: it played the HDPVR recording sample okay though
[22:40:20] vslap: I chose that because it was cheap and I can tape it behind the TV. Anything <100$ works.
[22:40:20] justinh: the Pi is good for almost free. Not perfect
[22:40:38] vslap: The beaglebone is vastly more powerful.
[22:40:53] justinh: vslap: in terms of CPU, not video decoding power
[22:41:09] justinh: it'll still utterly rely on the HW decoder for video playback
[22:41:11] vslap: It has a better SoC for video decoding, pretty sure.
[22:41:30] justinh: not broadcom junk? or different broadcom junk? ;-)
[22:42:10] vslap: sec got a quick meeting.
[22:42:28] justinh: I just wish there was a halfway house.. somewhere between crappy SoC's and proper PC hardware.. not involving crappy android boxes
[22:42:39] wagnerrp_: if it's a rip, wouldn't it be a bit accurate copy of the disc, and thus no different from the disc?
[22:43:15] wagnerrp_: or are you talking about spending days of CPU time recompressing the h264 on the disc to lower quality h264 on your hard drive
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[22:49:01] justinh: whoah the beaglebone black is only 720P & no video decode offloading? Or is that FUD?
[22:49:45] justinh: hahah. no, not when Element14 are saying it
[22:52:26] justinh: regarding quality of video, if I watch teevees while wearing a full face balaclava the picture looks fine whether the source is a ZX Spectrum, youtube or super-hi-vision
[22:55:43] justinh: yup, sure as eggs is eggs searching the interwebs for *any* small low powered piece of crap hardware comes up with 'for mythtv frontend' questions.
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[23:02:01] tgm4883_: Has anyone had any issues running IR remotes like a MCEUSB2 connected to a USB 3 port?
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[23:16:56] plut0: why am i getting this error every couple seconds? Decoder mythrender_vdpau.cpp:1534 (Decode) VDPAU: Error at mythrender_vdpau.cpp:1534 (#24, The set of handles supplied are not all related to the same VdpDevice.)
[23:16:56] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/24 **
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[23:48:22] wagnerrp: tgm4883_: i might be doing that on one of my frontends
[23:48:36] wagnerrp: i'm pretty sure it has USB3, and never paid attention to where i plugged things in
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[23:53:26] tgm4883_: wagnerrp, and it works? I can't seem to get it to work at all. I've got multiple ir receivers that came with my MCEUSB2 remotes that work on my old systems, but not my new ones
[23:53:58] ServerSage: So I'm using MythCenter-wide 1.7 as my theme. How in the world do I disable the background artwork in "Watch Recordings"?
[23:53:59] wagnerrp: it works, but i'm not sure if it's actually in a 3.0 port
[23:54:11] wagnerrp: no, scratch that, it only has 3.0 headers, no physical ports
[23:54:20] tgm4883_: hmm
[23:55:15] wagnerrp: i know my logitech receiver won't work on 3.0

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