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Error at /usr/share/beirdobot/web/includes/utils.php, line 229:
Undefined variable $query

Details:
    datetime:  2025-10-20 16:29:54 (UTC)
    errornum:  2
  error type:  Warning
error string:  Undefined variable $query
    filename:  /usr/share/beirdobot/web/includes/utils.php
  error line:  229
Sunday, February 2nd, 2014, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:04] wagnerrp: then perhaps someone guessed and changed your password?
[00:00:14] sid3windr: [02|00:59:46] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Registered : Jan 19 06:22:47 2013 (1 year, 1 week, 6 days, 17:36:59 ago)
[00:00:17] sid3windr: [02|00:59:46] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Last addr  : ~Warped@108-85-161-113.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net
[00:00:20] sid3windr: doesn't look like it ;)
[00:00:36] buu: afpup: (Just for the record, modperl the perl module for apache has nothing to do with running cgi scripts named .pl)
[00:00:44] Warped: Nope. It is still good. Just have been getting failed login messages every time they tried to login for several months.
[00:01:06] wagnerrp: oh, someone else keeps trying to log into your name
[00:01:12] Warped: Yes.
[00:01:41] wagnerrp: then there's no problem
[00:01:53] buu: afpup: (so enabling/disabling perl.load is not required for mythweb)
[00:02:38] Warped: Just was trying to ask them to change their setup to stop trying to login.
[00:02:59] Hydr0p0nX: if 1yr is long time, what's 9 years, 13 weeks, 3 days ?
[00:03:17] buu: Hydr0p0nX: 9 times longer
[00:03:21] buu: duh
[00:03:25] Hydr0p0nX: lol
[00:03:26] buu: stuartm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6858297/
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[00:03:33] buu: augh
[00:03:37] stuartm: maybe I'm confusing warpme with warped
[00:03:43] Warped: Time to find something on TV??? :)
[00:03:55] wagnerrp: only 5.5 years here
[00:04:04] buu: Registered : May 28 08:04:31 2004 (9 years, 35 weeks, 6 days, 15:59:13 ago) =]
[00:04:35] buu: stuartm: Do you need more output from the mythfrontend?
[00:05:30] Spida: 11 years for me...
[00:05:52] stuartm: buu: that's 10 bit, VDPAU (and almost no consumer hardware) supports 10bit
[00:05:58] Warped: But I have been "Warped" all my life.
[00:06:31] stuartm: buy or rent the Bluray instead, save yourself the trouble (and possibility of getting sued)
[00:06:36] buu: =[
[00:06:39] wagnerrp: heh
[00:06:44] wagnerrp: was about to say that
[00:06:53] buu: I don't have a blueray player!
[00:07:19] stuartm: See the bit about the 'High 10' profile – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
[00:07:19] buu: Anyway, moral objections aside, how come other video players can play it happily but myth's cant?
[00:07:28] wagnerrp: because it's 10-bit
[00:07:43] stuartm: it's a fairly obscure profile for anyone to be using
[00:07:54] wagnerrp: it's highly non-standard video, that there's really no reason for you to come across it
[00:08:09] wagnerrp: except due to some optimization in the encoder, it results in better compression
[00:09:33] wagnerrp: in other words... don't use obscure options if you expect compatibility
[00:11:41] stuartm: buu: it's possible that you'd be able to play that file in 0.27 or 0.28 using the standard decoder, but you won't get it to work with hardware decoding (vdpau)
[00:12:12] wagnerrp: i recall a patch being made a while back, specifically to allow VDPAU to recognize it as incompatible content and refuse to try
[00:12:31] buu: Well, can't it fall back to software by default?
[00:12:46] wagnerrp: it should after aforementioned patch
[00:13:46] buu: Ohhh, thats what you meant.
[00:14:32] buu: At the risk of being lazy, is there anyway to tell myth to just use vlc/mplayer for all video files?
[00:14:42] stuartm: no
[00:14:54] buu: Why does myth have its own player?
[00:15:03] stuartm: why shouldn't it?
[00:15:08] buu: Because mplayer exists?
[00:15:24] buu: It seems rather like duplication of effort
[00:15:46] stuartm: you can't integrate mplayer into mythtv and retain a fraction of mythtv's features
[00:16:50] buu: Oh.
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[00:17:02] stuartm: no osd, no cutlists, no livetv, no picture in picture, only half the subtitle format support, no interactive tv (mheg etc)
[00:17:05] buu: I guess it would have trouble with the hotkeys.
[00:17:27] stuartm: and that's just a fraction of the features
[00:17:57] buu: Ah, videometadata has a playcommand
[00:18:06] stuartm: plus it would break every other week since mplayer etc don't have stable APIs
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[00:21:30] buu: Hrm
[00:21:34] buu: I see your points, obviously
[00:21:55] Hydr0p0nX: is there a plugin for either netflix or amazon video ? other than firefox + wine
[00:22:19] buu: Hydr0p0nX: no
[00:22:20] buu: =[
[00:22:33] wagnerrp: amazon video could be made to work with a bit of coding
[00:22:41] wagnerrp: all we need is the ability to handle cookies in mythnetvision
[00:22:45] buu: really?
[00:22:46] wagnerrp: authentication cookies
[00:22:52] buu: Because it has a flash version?
[00:22:54] wagnerrp: since it's flash
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[02:18:47] sphery: buu: if you want a dvr that integrates other external projects rather than an all-in-one dvr (MythTV), check out Freevo
[02:19:29] sphery: it's the "put together random pieces of software with spit and duct tape" approach to building a dvr :)
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[02:19:47] sphery: http://freevo.sourceforge.net/
[02:19:48] buu: sphery: Heh, ok
[02:19:59] buu: I like ductape
[02:20:16] sphery: you and macguyver :)
[02:20:16] skd5aner: is freevo even alive still?
[02:21:33] sphery: the web site is
[02:21:58] wagnerrp: and being updated?
[02:22:12] sphery: though last news item was "Freevo 2 beta release almost ready – can you help us get there?" on Sep 25, 2011
[02:22:30] sphery: (not that that means anything--our news makes our project seem not very alive)
[02:22:55] wagnerrp: can't argue with commits
[02:23:55] wagnerrp: which i'm not sure how to check
[02:24:02] wagnerrp: i never liked sourceforge as a platform
[02:24:11] sphery: https://github.com/freevo/
[02:24:17] sphery: they've moved it seems
[02:24:38] sphery: freevo2 updated 10mos ago
[02:24:46] sphery: freevo1 a year ago
[02:24:57] sphery: kaa-metadata 7mos
[02:25:23] sphery: (kaa is the "media framework")
[02:25:31] sphery: so still not sure
[02:25:46] sphery: but seems you can use either mplayer or xine
[02:25:56] wagnerrp: going to try to get the housekeeper updated tonight
[02:26:03] wagnerrp: there's some weird scheduling issues to resolve
[02:26:22] wagnerrp: and i need to add a "last successful" date, so it will retry on a shorter timer
[02:26:24] sphery: did you ever figure out why stuartm's cleanupprogram... wasn't running
[02:26:28] sphery: the dbcleanup task
[02:26:45] sphery: you or stuartm, that is
[02:26:47] wagnerrp: any ticket or further information?
[02:27:00] sphery: mentioned in #mythtv friday
[02:27:26] wagnerrp: "stuartm> we'll need a housekeeper task to clean up old live streaming transcodes after a period"
[02:27:27] wagnerrp: ?
[02:27:36] sphery: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2014-01-31:19:41
[02:28:51] sphery: seems he got a chance to run the queries after I disappeared
[02:29:24] sphery: so, seems it was running
[02:29:33] sphery: but for some reason it wasn't finding his old find one rules
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[02:29:38] wagnerrp: if it ran, it wasn't a housekeeper problem
[02:29:43] sphery: yeah
[02:29:46] sphery: so nvm :)
[02:29:49] sphery: sorry for the noise
[02:29:54] wagnerrp: since the actual tasks that got run weren't (shouldn't have been) changed
[02:30:04] sphery: right, they seemed fine
[02:30:04] wagnerrp: it is possible i bungled a copy/paste somewhere
[02:30:09] sphery: didn't see any
[02:30:22] sphery: more likely related to change to find rules
[02:30:37] sphery: the filter stuff
[02:31:41] wagnerrp: we still have an oldhousekeeping around? i'll dump that when i add in the new column
[02:40:40] Hydr0p0nX: just managed to crash the frontend
[02:41:38] wagnerrp: i need to tweak memory usage on my backend a bit. seems zfs is slower to release memory on 10.0, resulting in OOMs
[02:42:21] Hydr0p0nX: looks to be due to a slight delay in recieving the streem from charter
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[02:45:29] Hydr0p0nX: i can provide a log if you want to verify
[02:46:12] Blue1: Hydr0p0nX: hmm ironically my front end crashed today as well
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[02:46:56] Hydr0p0nX: i'm on 0.26/fixes
[02:47:11] Blue1: ditto
[02:48:57] Hydr0p0nX: haven't upgraded to 0.27 yet want a windows client for it first and I haven't gotten around to creating a build environment
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[02:54:07] Blue1: i have not gotten mythweb to work
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[03:00:26] Hydr0p0nX: mythweb works fine for me
[03:00:30] Hydr0p0nX: what problem are you having ?
[03:01:38] Blue1: let me get the exact error
[03:03:17] Blue1: I am going here: http://192.168.1.103/html/mythweb/ and when I click on something it comes up with:  !!NoTrans: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) [#1045]
[03:03:41] Hydr0p0nX: i've seen that before :)
[03:03:43] Hydr0p0nX: hang o
[03:03:44] Hydr0p0nX: n
[03:04:21] Blue1: k
[03:05:38] Hydr0p0nX: under /etc/apache/sites-enabled , you should have mythweb.conf
[03:05:55] Blue1: let me check
[03:06:15] Blue1: I do NOT have apache in /etc/
[03:06:23] Hydr0p0nX: apache2 then ?
[03:06:32] Hydr0p0nX: or httpd depending on you're distro
[03:06:37] Blue1: it's in mythtv
[03:07:15] Blue1: t5here's an /etc/apache2/conf.d/mythweb.conf
[03:07:19] Blue1: that?
[03:07:21] Hydr0p0nX: yep
[03:07:27] Hydr0p0nX: mines under sites-enabled
[03:07:55] wagnerrp: sphery: do you know if QString::arg(bool) will return "1" or "true"?
[03:08:07] Blue1: okay let me look at the file brb
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[03:08:16] wagnerrp: i assume it will just be handled like an int, and be 0/1
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[03:08:59] Blue1: Hydr0p0nX: what am I looking for in the file?
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[03:15:55] Hydr0p0nX: k, edit that file and look for the lines that contain setenv db_login, setenv db_password, host, and
[03:16:06] Blue1: k
[03:16:19] Hydr0p0nX: make sure the user, pass and host are right
[03:16:57] Hydr0p0nX: bool is usually true/false i thought
[03:17:50] Blue1: none of those fields are in this file
[03:17:58] Hydr0p0nX: hmmm
[03:18:30] Blue1: wrong file?
[03:18:32] Hydr0p0nX: can you pastebin it ?
[03:18:41] Blue1: sure
[03:19:08] Hydr0p0nX: did you install mythweb from a repo ?
[03:19:58] Blue1: yes
[03:20:00] Blue1: http://paste.debian.net/79729/
[03:20:53] sphery: wagnerrp: not sure... I think it does do a 1, but it's been a long time since I've tried it.
[03:22:00] Hydr0p0nX: ok, there's an include ... look at /etc/mythtv/mythweb-mysql.conf
[03:22:09] Blue1: k
[03:22:39] Blue1: yup I found it.
[03:22:49] Hydr0p0nX: make sure those values are correct
[03:23:47] Hydr0p0nX: you can compare it against /home/<mythfrontenduser>/.mythtv/config.xml
[03:23:57] Hydr0p0nX: that should have the correct values
[03:24:04] Blue1: yes those values are in there.
[03:24:47] Blue1: but maybe the password is wrong? how is the file generated?
[03:25:25] Blue1: where is mod_env located?
[03:25:30] Hydr0p0nX: I'm not sure where the user/pass are pulled for it, you may need to set it
[03:25:48] Blue1: it's something bizarre
[03:26:26] Hydr0p0nX: mod_env is an apache module, it'd be under /apache2/modules
[03:26:37] Blue1: okay I set it to plaintext pasword – the mysql password is root
[03:27:19] Blue1: brb
[03:27:59] Hydr0p0nX: k, i gotta take teh dog out
[03:28:19] Hydr0p0nX: once you have the user/pass set correctly, restart apache for it to take effect and try again
[03:28:40] Blue1: k
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[03:31:04] Blue1: this is the error I got back from trying to run mythweb: http://paste.debian.net/79730/
[03:32:17] Hydr0p0nX: ok
[03:32:28] Hydr0p0nX: is apache running on the same server as the databae?
[03:32:33] Hydr0p0nX: database*
[03:33:15] Hydr0p0nX: it looks like it is ...
[03:33:46] Hydr0p0nX: try running `mysql -u mythtv -h localhost -p` (without the `s)
[03:33:57] Hydr0p0nX: enter the password you put in the file and make sure you can connect to mysql
[03:34:43] Blue1: k
[03:35:37] Blue1: oh it it unhappy with that
[03:35:57] Blue1: okay the password is mythtv
[03:36:06] Blue1: that probably is my error met me fix that
[03:36:14] Hydr0p0nX: yep
[03:37:05] andreaz: Funny to take a peek here... Ive done the same stuff seconds ago.. :)
[03:37:32] Hydr0p0nX: oh ?
[03:37:57] Blue1: okay let me restart apache
[03:38:18] andreaz: Its like a dejavu to read nearly all the same steps ive done too.. :)
[03:38:37] Blue1: hmm I got an odd error message on the file I copied ---
[03:38:42] Blue1: as a backup.
[03:39:21] Blue1: The Alias directive in /etc/apache2/conf.d/mythweb.conf.org at line 33 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier Alias.
[03:39:44] Hydr0p0nX: yea, copy it out of conf.d
[03:39:56] Hydr0p0nX: anything in that directory is treated as an include
[03:40:31] Blue1: happy camper – I don;'t know a lot about apache2
[03:40:36] wagnerrp: ... depending on how your apache server conf is configured
[03:41:03] Blue1: okay do I want to run a specfic programme in that directory?
[03:41:21] Blue1: wow – mythweb.php works!
[03:41:53] ** Blue1 owes Hydr0p0nX a cup of coffee **
[03:45:41] Hydr0p0nX: see wagnerrp, i can help as well as annoy xD
[03:51:11] wagnerrp: i'm just saying the "/etc/apache2/conf.d/" thing depends on what distro you're using and how they configure apache to run
[03:51:25] Hydr0p0nX: oh, i know
[03:51:41] Hydr0p0nX: I run apache on windows too and don't set it up that way
[03:52:16] Blue1: going to give it the acid test and see if if works on my cell phone
[03:52:32] wagnerrp: a windows server? nonsense... :)
[03:53:30] Hydr0p0nX: eh, unfortunately, I (+3 other people) manage around 160 of them
[03:54:09] wagnerrp: we actually run windows server at work, for real time industrial control if you believe it
[03:54:28] Hydr0p0nX: seen it more times than i care to admit
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[03:54:48] wagnerrp: apparently the real time stuff runs as a hypervisor, with windows running a database and non-realtime management on top
[03:56:11] Hydr0p0nX: yea ... I just run jboss +apache, fileservers, and sql server
[03:56:26] Hydr0p0nX: and a few tomcat instances, finally got all of the old weblogic stuff gone
[03:57:58] Hydr0p0nX: wagnerrp ...
[03:58:14] wagnerrp: ?
[03:58:15] Hydr0p0nX: there a trick to making mythweather work in mythbuntu 12.04?
[03:58:17] Blue1: ahh I got this: http://192.168.1.103/html/mythweb/tv/recorded
[03:58:23] Blue1: not found
[03:58:41] wagnerrp: should just work
[03:58:49] Hydr0p0nX: what if you take the /html/ out ?
[03:58:51] wagnerrp: i'm not aware of any changes in it between 0.26 and 0.27
[03:58:57] Hydr0p0nX: keeps saying it can't find the location
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[03:59:36] Hydr0p0nX: tried, zip, city, city+state, state, and the NOAA id for their weather station
[04:00:31] tonsofpcs: what do you mean by "NOAA id" ?
[04:00:44] Hydr0p0nX: in my case, KBHM
[04:01:39] tonsofpcs: what timezone is Birmingham in?
[04:01:43] Hydr0p0nX: central
[04:02:01] tonsofpcs: ok, so data is up to date (last issuance was 8 minutes ago, happens hourly)
[04:02:38] Hydr0p0nX: I did just see something i missed in the wiki earlier ...
[04:02:52] tonsofpcs: I have no idea what you're trying it for... are you sure that it's using NOAA?
[04:03:32] Hydr0p0nX: i read somewhere that it worked for someone
[04:03:36] Hydr0p0nX: figured i'd try it
[04:03:48] Hydr0p0nX: but, it looks like leaving location blank may work
[04:03:52] tonsofpcs: how about ALZ024?
[04:04:05] tonsofpcs: oh, you're not actually trying to get weather data?
[04:04:43] Hydr0p0nX: just trying to set it up right now
[04:05:07] Hydr0p0nX: pick a screen, get sent to location search, search for the area, and get 0 results
[04:05:40] Hydr0p0nX: empty search returns data
[04:06:15] tonsofpcs: you mean for channel lineups?
[04:06:25] Hydr0p0nX: for mythweather
[04:06:48] tonsofpcs: try ALZ024
[04:06:56] Hydr0p0nX: no results
[04:07:21] tonsofpcs: Birmingham*
[04:08:32] Hydr0p0nX: that worked
[04:08:51] wagnerrp: i know i remember hearing some people having scheduling issues with the housekeeper
[04:08:56] wagnerrp: can't find any tickets
[04:09:08] wagnerrp: i think they were related to mythfilldatabase being run at improper times
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[04:15:10] skd5aner: well, figured out the hard way that my motherboard doesn't support EFI even though it says it does – marketing for the loss!
[04:16:05] skd5aner: wagnerrp: I always run mythfilldatabase at 3am, because it takes 2–3 hours for me, and makes mythbackend rediculously non-responsive, so I've turned off the suggested times long ago
[04:16:35] Blue1: let me try
[04:17:16] Blue1: nope it needs the /html/
[04:17:18] keith4_: so it looks like mythfilldatabase isn't being run by the backend, since upgrading to 0.27, despite that box being checked in mythtv-setup
[04:17:34] keith4_: ... but if I run it manually, it completes just fine. thoughts?
[04:17:47] Blue1: Hydr0p0nX: I can run mythweb.php but when I go to recorded programmes it comes up with not found -
[04:18:05] wagnerrp: i think that's the problem, it's ignoring the suggested times and just running periodic
[04:21:27] tonsofpcs: keith4_: yea, mine does that too. I run it every day or two.
[04:21:39] ctmjr: yep that was what mine was doing likr it had a mind of it's own. Do not know enough about it so am running it as a cron job.
[04:21:42] tonsofpcs: but mine has a lot more issues than most... really needs replacing
[04:23:40] keith4_: tonsofpcs, honestly, i can't remember if it _ever_ worked. I could've sworn that I used to just run it via cron, but I can find no evidence of that on the old system
[04:24:48] tonsofpcs: keith4_: yea, mine was 0.25, upgraded to 0.26 and it failed so I manually backed it down, hasn't worked since...
[04:26:50] keith4_: the weird part is that I see "Queueing HouseKeeperTask 'MythFillDB'." and "Running HouseKeeperTask 'MythFillDB'." in the log, but.... only 4 days of guide data right now
[04:27:27] keith4_: "HouseKeeperTask 'MythFillDB' Finished Successfully." 6 minutes later. no guide data update
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[04:35:06] keith4_: ah, backend status shows "Last mythfilldatabase run started on Sat Feb 1, 12:06 AM and ended on Sat Feb 1, 12:06 AM. mythfilldatabase ran, but did not insert any new data into the Guide for 1 of 1 sources. This can indicate a potential grabber failure."
[04:35:34] Hydr0p0nX: Blue1, do all of the other screens work?
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[05:13:13] Blue1: Hydr0p0nX: no
[05:13:14] Blue1: except one
[05:13:14] Blue1: myhthweb.php works, but it is trying to find /mythweb/tv/recorded for the recorded programmes — of course that doesn't exist
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[05:16:23] wagnerrp: are you actually going to http://.../mythweb/mythweb.php ?
[05:20:54] wagnerrp: Blue1: ^^^
[05:25:23] ** wagnerrp pokes Blue1 **
[05:25:50] ** wagnerrp pokes harder **
[05:26:01] wagnerrp: you screwed things up with that '/html/' crap
[05:26:06] wagnerrp: you need to fix things to make it work
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[05:38:18] Hydr0p0nX: anyone with experience using the ubuntu netflix ppa ?
[05:39:28] Hydr0p0nX: looks like it just loads Wine + firefox + mono/gecko then builds you're firefox profile for it,
[05:39:46] wagnerrp: silverlight, not mono
[05:39:53] wagnerrp: if it were mono, you wouldn't need wine
[05:41:00] Hydr0p0nX: just saw mono mentioned in the comments here: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/ppa-for-n . . . top-app.html
[05:41:32] Hydr0p0nX: silverlight is more believable though
[05:41:33] wagnerrp: Blue1: since you changed the designed location of mythweb, putting it in /html/mythweb/, you need to go into mythweb.conf and update the Directory stanzas and RewriteBase
[05:41:48] Blue1: wagnerrp: ?
[05:42:48] wagnerrp: you don't go to /html/mythweb/mythweb.php, you just go to /mythweb/, but since /mythweb/ doesn't exist, everything is broken
[05:42:56] wagnerrp: you need to let mythweb know where it actually is
[05:43:11] Blue1: okay let me look at mythweb.conf
[05:44:51] Blue1: well it actually says in mythweb.conf to change the path to match your mythweb install and /var/www/html/mythweb is one of the choices
[05:45:04] Blue1: and that works.
[05:45:08] wagnerrp: assuming /var/www/html/ is your web root
[05:45:16] Blue1: yes
[05:45:18] wagnerrp: but apparently you have /var/www/ configured as your web root
[05:45:48] Blue1: this is what I have — it may be wrong: <Directory "/var/www/html/mythweb/data">
[05:46:02] wagnerrp: and your RewriteBase?
[05:46:28] Blue1: let me look at that brb
[05:46:37] Hydr0p0nX: it's set to /mythweb
[05:46:43] wagnerrp: it's in the same file
[05:46:49] Hydr0p0nX: according to the .conf you pasted earlier
[05:46:49] wagnerrp: it's not that big of a file
[05:46:56] Blue1: right but I just logged out
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[05:48:58] Blue1: ahh rewrite base is set to /mythweb
[05:49:26] wagnerrp: since the normal location for mythweb is /mythweb/, but you have a /html/ stuff in there
[05:50:25] Blue1: so how do I fix it?
[05:50:40] wagnerrp: change it to /html/mythweb/
[05:51:46] Blue1: k let me restart apache
[05:53:18] Blue1: do I need a symlink? like /usr/share/mythtv data
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[05:53:52] wagnerrp: symlink to what?
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[05:54:08] Blue1: /usr/share/mythweb
[05:54:22] Blue1: /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb
[05:54:30] wagnerrp: mythweb isn't stored in /var/www/html/mythweb?
[05:54:46] Blue1: ahh that's my error then
[05:55:04] Blue1: b/c I have a /var/www/html/mythweb
[05:55:06] Blue1: physically
[05:55:36] wagnerrp: the problem is that your web root and mythweb's location relative to that web root is not what mythweb.conf is programmed for
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[05:56:20] Blue1: that makes sense
[05:57:07] wagnerrp: since mythweb masks its structure using rewrite rules, it needs to know where to rewrite from
[05:57:39] Blue1: I followed the directions http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV-HOWTO_-_0.26 but understand that /mythplugins-0.26/mythweb doesn't exist
[05:58:08] wagnerrp: it was never really a plugin, since it does not get compiled or loaded by the frontend
[05:58:20] wagnerrp: that was just a convenient location to store it in the repository
[05:58:24] Blue1: ok
[06:03:17] Blue1: so if i am understand you correctly — the location /var/www/html/mythweb needs to have a rewrite base of /html/mythweb then?
[06:04:22] Hydr0p0nX: yes
[06:04:30] Blue1: okay thats what I have
[06:04:33] wagnerrp: you said you were accessing http://../html/mythweb/mythweb.php, correct?
[06:04:49] Blue1: yes — let me see if that got fixed.
[06:05:50] Blue1: if I access http://192.168.1.103/html it comes up
[06:07:04] Blue1: I am new to apache and mythweb — I have been working on mythweb off/on for 6 months
[06:09:37] Blue1: when I call up mythweb.php it is trying to access a location say for example http://192.168.1.103/html/mythweb/tv/list which doesn't exist (well the /tv/list part doesn't)
[06:10:34] wagnerrp: don't cally of mythweb.php... just http://192.168.1.103/html/mythweb/
[06:11:03] wagnerrp: *call up
[06:12:37] Blue1: right it shows me the directory
[06:13:13] wagnerrp: it should be pushing that into mythweb.php automatically
[06:14:04] wagnerrp: did you uncomment the line?
[06:14:13] Blue1: uncomment – what line?
[06:14:23] wagnerrp: https://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythweb/tree/myt . . . .apache#n149
[06:14:58] Blue1: let ml look
[06:16:44] Blue1: yes it is uncommented
[06:18:40] wagnerrp: try changing the "/var/www/html" directory stanza to "/var/www"
[06:19:04] Blue1: ok
[06:20:06] Blue1: brb
[06:21:29] Blue1: it's looking for /tv/directory which isn't there
[06:21:49] Blue1: The requested URL /html/mythweb/tv/list was not found on this server.
[06:22:24] wagnerrp: right. it doesn't exist physically on the hard drive
[06:22:48] wagnerrp: that path is supposed to be passed to mythweb.php, and mythweb.php goes through the various modules and figures out how to generate it
[06:22:50] Blue1: but there is nothing pointing to it, afaik
[06:23:24] Blue1: depending on what is coded in mythweb.conf correct?
[06:24:02] wagnerrp: it's supposed to generate it using /html/mythweb/modules/tv/list/
[06:24:16] Blue1: i don't understand how it is coming up with the /tv/ thing – that's where I am lost -
[06:25:04] Hydr0p0nX: do you have anything in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb ?
[06:26:44] Blue1: let me look
[06:27:17] Blue1: yes
[06:27:38] Hydr0p0nX: it appears to be aliased to /mythweb, you also have a /var/www/html/mythweb?
[06:28:05] Blue1: this could be a problem: data -> /var/lib/mythtv/mythweb/data
[06:28:29] wagnerrp: data is an old legacy symlink to the recordings
[06:28:35] Blue1: k
[06:28:38] wagnerrp: it hasn't been used since 0.20
[06:28:44] Blue1: let me check on the other brb
[06:29:10] Blue1: yes there is data there as well
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[06:31:02] Hydr0p0nX: is it a link back to the other?
[06:31:11] Blue1: no
[06:31:35] Blue1: it is physically present — does it need to be symlinked?
[06:32:23] Hydr0p0nX: no, i'm wondering if something's breaking because you have an alias and a directory pointing back to the same /mythweb
[06:33:04] Blue1: oh I see the alias
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[06:34:44] Hydr0p0nX: http://paste.debian.net/79729/
[06:35:20] Hydr0p0nX: might not hurt to try just renaming /var/www/html/mythweb to anything else and see if it starts working right
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[06:35:23] Blue1: yes I am looking at the file
[06:35:35] Blue1: ok
[06:36:59] Blue1: ahh it is picking up what I renamed the file too
[06:37:26] Blue1: yes I did restart apache
[06:40:04] Blue1: when I tried to access http://ipaddress/mythweb it says I do not have access
[06:40:22] Blue1: sorry permission
[06:41:25] Blue1: fwiw — I am on debian/wheezy if that make any diff.
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[06:44:25] Blue1: interesting – there is: /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/tv/
[06:48:12] Hydr0p0nX: is it a 403 forbidden message ?
[06:49:06] Blue1: yes
[06:53:27] Hydr0p0nX: ok, so apache doesn't have access to aliased directory
[06:53:34] Hydr0p0nX: let me see how mine looks
[06:53:38] Blue1: k
[06:53:50] Blue1: it appears not
[06:54:45] Blue1: and I really don't want to change the owner or permissions for /usr/share/ — which is why I copied them in the first place.
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[06:56:45] Hydr0p0nX: ok, you copied /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/ to /var/www/html/mythweb?
[06:58:35] Blue1: yes I remember that's why I did that — I knew there had to be a reason
[06:59:02] Hydr0p0nX: ok, now it's starting to make sense
[06:59:13] Blue1: yup now it makes a bit more sense
[06:59:33] Hydr0p0nX: you didn't get the symlinks when you copied the structure to /var/www/html
[06:59:48] Blue1: but I didn't copy the subdirectories so let me recurse on that and ajust mythweb.conf accordingly
[06:59:55] Blue1: no
[07:01:20] Blue1: no I got everything
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[07:04:28] Blue1: at least I remembered why I copied it.....
[07:04:51] Blue1: I am not a linux n00b but I am an apache/mythtv n00b
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[07:25:46] Blue1: my brain can't think any more
[07:27:33] Hydr0p0nX: need to rename /var/www/html/mythweb? back to /mythweb, comment the alias /mythweb line in mythweb.conf, and change the <directory /usr/share... > line to reflect /var/www/...
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[07:27:49] Hydr0p0nX: restart apache and that should be it
[07:28:17] Blue1: k letme try that
[07:29:41] Blue1: so let me see if I have this straight — the two directory statements should be /var/www/html/mythweb — and the alias is commented out?
[07:30:11] Blue1: when you said – rename – I am confused
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[07:31:30] Hydr0p0nX: did you rename /var/www/html/mythweb to /var/www/html/mythweb_ before?
[07:32:12] Blue1: yes
[07:32:46] Hydr0p0nX: revert that
[07:33:01] Blue1: when I try it now, http://ipaddress/html it just shows the parent directory
[07:33:08] Blue1: doesn't show anything underneath
[07:33:38] Hydr0p0nX: does /html/mythweb work ?
[07:33:42] Blue1: no
[07:34:00] Hydr0p0nX: is it 403 or 404 ?
[07:34:08] Blue1: says I don't have permission — 403
[07:35:34] Blue1: i checked and yes it is set to owner www-data and i chmod'd to 777 so it should be all set
[07:35:40] Hydr0p0nX: now, set owner/permissions for /var/www/html/mythweb to match /var/www/html
[07:35:51] Hydr0p0nX: ok
[07:35:58] Blue1: let me do that again
[07:37:24] Blue1: nope wont show me what's in html
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[07:38:25] Blue1: let me do a sanity check
[07:39:30] Blue1: yes, everything in all the subdirectiories of /var/ is chmod to 777 and chown to www-data
[07:40:22] Blue1: yes I know that doesn't make sense — I can restore later
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[07:44:54] Blue1: okay restored /var/back correctly --
[07:48:00] Blue1: okay restored back to the way the original file was — and it see it — going to try commenting out the alias
[07:48:49] Blue1: sfsg
[07:50:26] Blue1: nope when I change the second directory to /var/www/html/mythweb it's a no go
[07:54:59] Blue1: off to bed
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[09:07:10] Technophil: Hi, is anyone here who can tell me how to install mythbuntu 12.04.3 on a 16G SSD and overcome the default partition issue of the Ext4 root partition being too small?
[09:08:50] Technophil: It becomes too small when adding the ubuntu programs, as its only 4.07 GB
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[10:25:13] Technophil: Its OK, 12.04.3 seems to fix this issue, I had expected it to behave much the same as 12.04.2...
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[16:08:39] skd5aner: so, is the general advice to disable mythlogserver now?
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[16:20:13] wagnerrp: heh... https://github.com/wagnerrp/pytmdb3/issues/38
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[16:44:40] bill6502: skd5aner: I've been building with it disabled since the option became available (rather than disabling it at run time.) http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythlogserver For me, it got rid of some SEGVs. ubuntu 12.04
[16:45:25] skd5aner: yea, I'm considering it... I've got several dozen cores that have dumped from it anyway, and it is a CPU hog
[16:45:41] skd5aner: is there a config flag to disable building it?
[16:45:50] skd5aner: ah, there is
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[19:05:39] rhpot1991: so my family members managed to mess up my mythvideo section somehow, I used to have folders of videos and now everything is under a "movies" folder
[19:05:47] rhpot1991: I'm in the right view mode, gallery
[19:05:56] rhpot1991: and show directory structure is enabled
[19:06:03] rhpot1991: can't seem to figure out what they did
[19:07:00] wagnerrp: see "browse by"
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[19:07:24] rhpot1991: wagnerrp: thanks, browse by folder worked
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[19:25:49] sphery: wagnerrp: doesn't rhpot1991 want to just disable "Hide Directory Structure"/enable "Show Directory Structure"
[19:25:55] sphery: rather than use a browse by
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[19:26:16] wagnerrp: huh?
[19:26:35] sphery: to get back his folders of videos
[19:27:05] wagnerrp: the default behavior is to use one of the "browse by" modes
[19:27:15] wagnerrp: he just unintentionally changed to the wrong browse by mode
[19:27:27] wagnerrp: completely independent of "file browse" mode
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[19:39:02] mengoshmink: hey wagnerrp, after you gave me some advise my question has appeared in the latest Linux Format magazine
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[19:39:41] wagnerrp: can't say i recall what that was
[19:39:58] mengoshmink: it was about running mythtv as a user and not root
[19:40:21] wagnerrp: that's just standard good practice
[19:40:34] wagnerrp: i can't claim that as my advice
[19:40:36] mengoshmink: yah, I knew that but I didn't realise I was doing it
[19:41:04] mengoshmink: after something you said I realised I was doing it and you pointed me in the direction of how to fix it
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[20:01:01] MrShake: howdy guys... i'm getting video frame buffering errors again
[20:01:19] MrShake: I can only seem to get about 30 seconds into watching something livetv before it dies
[20:01:26] MrShake: anyone around that can help me troubleshoot?
[20:02:09] wagnerrp: try pausing for a second or two and see if they go away
[20:02:26] MrShake: ok, let me try
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[20:04:50] MrShake: well.. that may have helped.. it hasn't died yet
[20:05:54] MrShake: so if that really does help.. is there a buffer or timeout setting I can change?
[20:06:51] wagnerrp: i'm not aware of any user-editable setting
[20:08:12] MrShake: well.. then the next question... what can I do... hardware change?
[20:09:03] wagnerrp: what type of tuner? how is your frontend connected to the backend?
[20:09:16] MrShake: frontend/backend are the same machine
[20:09:27] MrShake: tuner is a hdhomerun prime
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[20:42:16] Tobbe5178: how do i prevent mythfilldatabase from inserting garbage channels every time it runs?
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[20:42:38] Tobbe5178: used to work fine and now it decides to insert stuff manualy and screw everything up
[20:49:04] MrShake: you can hide channels either in the backend or via the web interface
[20:49:29] Tobbe5178: yes i know but ever time i run mythfilldatabase it inserts another copy of the channel
[20:49:37] Tobbe5178: so each run adds about 40 channels
[20:49:45] Tobbe5178: i just deleted 300+ channels
[20:50:13] Tobbe5178: it als errors with:
[20:50:49] Tobbe5178: 2014-02–02 21:41:17.981673 I New static DB connectionDataDirectCon
[20:50:49] Tobbe5178: 2014-02–02 21:41:17.982533 E Original query failed, but resend with empty strings in place of NULL strings worked.
[20:50:55] Tobbe5178: then the output of the sql qurey
[20:51:05] Tobbe5178: and by the way i'm not using data direct at all
[20:53:22] wagnerrp: as far as i know, channels are only inserted when using datadirect
[20:53:38] Tobbe5178: then mythfilldatabase is making a big mistake
[20:53:53] Tobbe5178: how is it checking if it is using datadirect or not?
[20:54:32] wagnerrp: by the xmltv grabber you defined when you created the video source
[20:56:37] Tobbe5178: it is set to the right xmltv source
[20:56:40] Tobbe5178: for both cards
[20:57:03] Tobbe5178: listing grabber that is
[20:58:42] wagnerrp: not relevant to the issue, but you don't define an xmltv source to cards, you define it to a video source
[20:58:50] wagnerrp: and then that video source is mapped to one or more inputs
[20:59:45] Tobbe5178: yes i know, videosource is set to the correct xmltv listing grabber, input connections is set to point to the video source in question
[21:00:20] Tobbe5178: each of my two cards have a diffrent video source
[21:00:25] Tobbe5178: selected
[21:00:43] Tobbe5178: this have worked fine before
[21:02:10] Tobbe5178: xmltv grabber have not changed at all
[21:02:20] Tobbe5178: so it is not the xmltv graber that inserts the channels
[21:09:12] Tobbe5178: i give up
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[21:57:09] kichigai: Hey all. I'm trying to set up an OpenELEC-powered XBMC front-end, but I'm having trouble figuring out what the hell is going wrong with it. I'm getting some interesting stuff out of the XBMC debug logs, but what I need to find now are the appropriate logs on the MythTV backend side, and I don't know where to look or which logs to look for.
[21:58:17] kichigai: I'm 100% positive the backend is working, since I have a remote frontend that has no problem speaking to it, it's just the XBMC thing that isn't working right.
[21:59:43] Tobbe5178: watching recordings over upnp?
[21:59:50] Tobbe5178: and they dont show up?
[22:00:01] kichigai: No, using the MythTV PVR plugin for XBMC.
[22:00:13] kichigai: I tried uPnP too, but on the XBMC end it calls it "unplayable" in the logs.
[22:00:21] kichigai: One moment, let me get the exact nomenclature.
[22:00:33] Tobbe5178: what hardware are you using?
[22:00:45] kichigai: Raspberry Pi.
[22:00:55] kichigai: I have the MPEG-2 license enabled.
[22:01:00] Tobbe5178: did you buy the mpeg2 coded for it and pluged it in to the config file?
[22:01:04] kichigai: Yup.
[22:01:18] Tobbe5178: worked for me, but i used upnp
[22:01:25] Tobbe5178: didnt want to mess with a plugin
[22:01:34] Tobbe5178: never got it to work and dont know if it is up to date with latest mythtv
[22:02:09] kichigai: Well, I'm running 0.25 an the plugin supports up to 0.26, but I'd be happy with uPnP working at this point.
[22:02:21] Tobbe5178: hmm, 0.25
[22:02:27] Tobbe5178: thats a few versions old
[22:02:50] kichigai: Mythbuntu is using it right now.
[22:03:03] kichigai: Eventually I'm going to upgrade it, but not right this instant.
[22:03:24] kichigai: Big feetballs game today, though I might try and rope in an additional TV if I could.
[22:03:46] kichigai: Maybe you'd know the answer to this.
[22:04:07] kichigai: Is the uPnP media renderer UDN supposed to have curly braces on both sides of it?
[22:04:16] kichigai: Because my config.xml shows it only on the lefty.
[22:04:18] kichigai: *left
[22:04:29] kichigai: I'm wondering if that's causing my uPnP problems.
[22:04:36] wagnerrp: if it's on one side, it should be on the other as well
[22:05:13] wagnerrp: but it's just a 128-bit UUID, so as long as the parser in mythtv can handle it, it shouldn't matter
[22:06:02] Tobbe5178: wagnerrp: i worked around my problem by adding --update to mythfilldatabase, not sure why it is trying to insert channels in the first place but with --update it works as it used to
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[22:09:52] justinh: how bad is upnp selection of things? lists and lists of lists? or just one big list?
[22:10:37] wagnerrp: recordings are organized (at least they were last time i tried on my PS3)
[22:10:42] wagnerrp: i think videos are just one big list
[22:10:46] justinh: blech
[22:10:59] justinh: oh, and there'd be no lovely metadata either I suspect
[22:11:10] wagnerrp: doubtful
[22:11:25] justinh: why didn't they build metadata into the spec?
[22:11:40] wagnerrp: i think you can send a thumbnail
[22:11:47] justinh: wooo hooo.
[22:12:49] justinh: oh, apparently metadata has been supported for ages..
[22:13:02] justinh: it's just there don't seem to be (m)any clients which use it
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[22:28:01] GrahamIRC: Evening all. Can you tell me if a tunerless MBE is a supported configuration now on 0.27?
[22:28:13] GrahamIRC: or do I still need to set up a dummy tuner?
[22:28:33] [R]: whats the point of that
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[22:31:25] GrahamIRC: I run my mbe as a virtual machine, with no tuners
[22:31:37] wagnerrp: why?
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[22:32:11] [R]: wagnerrp: cuz virtual machines...
[22:32:17] GrahamIRC: stability, redundancy, all sorts of reasons
[22:32:45] wagnerrp: neither of those are the result of virtual machines
[22:33:26] GrahamIRC: irrespective of my particular reasons, do you know if tunerless MBE is supported now or do I still need a dummy tuner?
[22:33:56] wagnerrp: you need a tuner somewhere in your cluster for it to run, and it should work, but it is unsupported
[22:35:03] GrahamIRC: yes I do have tuners on the SBE
[22:35:46] GrahamIRC: I remember back in the 0.21 or so days that a dummy tuner was required in a tunerless MBE and wasn't sure if that requirement still existed in 0.27
[22:36:43] wagnerrp: the code was written under the assumption that all backends would have tuners, so any other configuration is unsupported
[22:37:46] GrahamIRC: ok thanks :-)
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[22:40:57] GrahamIRC: Does it matter if I use the Import Test Recorder or the Demo Test Recorder?
[22:42:13] wagnerrp: no idea
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[23:16:02] wagnerrp: why do pop singers think being unable to hold a note makes them sound good?
[23:16:31] [R]: cuz autotune?
[23:17:09] wagnerrp: i mean every time you hear someone sing the national anthem, they can't just sing it
[23:17:18] wagnerrp: they have to add all sorts of variation to it
[23:17:32] |PSU|: hi guys, I am having a little a triangular shape pop up for a millisecond in between each frame change on my myth display. This happens for HD recordings and video files that have been uploaded to the box which display fine on my computer so I know it's only an output issue.
[23:17:39] |PSU|: here's a quick picture of what I'm seeing – http://imgur.com/yqCSqu0 ... any thoughts? thanks!
[23:18:16] wagnerrp: i'm not seeing any triangular shape
[23:21:08] natanojl: |PSU|: weird
[23:21:40] wagnerrp: what am i supposed to be seeing in that picture?
[23:22:00] natanojl: wagnerrp: upper right side
[23:22:21] wagnerrp: oh, hah... i thought it was a hill
[23:22:27] |PSU|: yes, right side
[23:22:40] |PSU|: sorry
[23:28:05] wagnerrp: why is joe nameth wearing a pimp fur?
[23:30:16] |PSU|: so nothing something u guys have seen before? may be it's hardware related (i.e. need to reseat DVI output cable?)
[23:30:16] keith4_: excellent question
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[23:56:14] justinh: wagnerrp: Whitney frickin Houston started the warbling 'interpretation' phenomenon AFAIK
[23:58:17] wagnerrp: s/started the warbling 'interpretation' phenomenon AFAIK/should be stoned/
[23:58:19] wagnerrp: fixed that for you
[23:59:00] justinh: over here we've got a similar thing where the 'artist' will breathily mumble, in melancholy fashion against a backdrop of soft piano chords... covering once great songs & killing them to death.
[23:59:51] justinh: FWIW I'd rather hear anybody autotuned than unvarnished Whiney Houston

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