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| [02:50:07] | andreaz: | No clue whats going on here.. :) Now, i managed to compile mythtv, done a channelscan, it found kinda all channels on dvb-t but when i tune in with mythfrontend i get no lock on any card and any channel. With vlc and channels.conf im able to tune to all channels, so the dvb-t hw is okay. Any idea where i can start to look at? |
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| [03:04:33] | Blue1: | andreaz: there is a timeout setting. hang a moment and I'll say if I can find where. |
| [03:08:58] | skd5aner: | dmfrey: not sure, I don't think any changes have been made to any CEC code since Mark left the project, and it should just rely on the library as far as I know |
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| [03:12:26] | andreaz: | Blue1: Thanks! As more i watch the database i got the feeling the channelscanner did something wrong... |
| [03:12:55] | andreaz: | If i understand it right, it differ in frequencies from my channels.conf i built with dvbscan... |
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| [03:13:30] | Blue1: | andreaz: okay I found it — took a bit of schlepping |
| [03:13:38] | andreaz: | Agh. Didnt get you are gone.. :) |
| [03:14:13] | Blue1: | did someone solve it for you? sometimes when I have to access remotely it hoses the gdm, and I had to restart — sorry. |
| [03:14:24] | andreaz: | As more i watch the database i guess the channelscanner did something wrong. |
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| [03:14:33] | andreaz: | Nono.. I guess theyre all asleep.. :D |
| [03:14:56] | Blue1: | under mythtv-setup (you have to stop the backend to run mythtv-setup) |
| [03:15:36] | andreaz: | Already played with that timeouts with no change... |
| [03:16:03] | Blue1: | go to capture card, click on recording options, and change the signal timeout (currently 1000 ms – change to I dunno 5000 ms) and tuning timeout (set to 3000 ms, make the 7500 ms) I did that and those problems went away. — YMMV applies |
| [03:16:21] | Blue1: | ahh sorry that's all I know how to change. |
| [03:16:30] | andreaz: | Okay, i may give it a try... |
| [03:17:25] | Blue1: | it may/may not work – worth a shot - |
| [03:17:50] | andreaz: | But there is some more that drives me crazy. Why in the database as example RTL is related to mplexid 1 which is 522000000 while dvbscan find it on 570000000...!? Is the channelscanner buggy at the moment? |
| [03:18:22] | Blue1: | Not that I am aware of — I have some database issues. |
| [03:18:33] | Blue1: | i have never gotten mythweb to work |
| [03:18:39] | andreaz: | That brings me to TLa_ instead of T| when i change this to the right frquency... |
| [03:19:26] | andreaz: | I got a working system for years a week ago... Then i kicked the harddisc out and done everything new from scratch... |
| [03:19:38] | andreaz: | Even mythweb worked there perfectly. |
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| [03:19:45] | Blue1: | what distro are you using? |
| [03:19:49] | andreaz: | gentoo |
| [03:20:00] | Blue1: | debian wheezy here (64 bit) |
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| [03:21:02] | Blue1: | I think I might go to mythbuntu when 14.04 comes out. |
| [03:21:19] | andreaz: | I love the idea of building the whole sys from source, takes a long time, but i think i learn some more than on a binary dist... |
| [03:21:36] | andreaz: | But i use Debian anywhere else, but not for this mythbox. |
| [03:21:44] | Blue1: | Yes, you do. you learn a lot about the dependancies that's for sure. |
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| [03:22:12] | Blue1: | what version of mythtv are you running? |
| [03:22:14] | andreaz: | But sometimes you also scratch your head till you reach the brain, like now.. :D |
| [03:22:24] | Blue1: | :-) |
| [03:22:32] | andreaz: | The git current... |
| [03:22:43] | Blue1: | okay you are using I think .27 |
| [03:22:45] | andreaz: | The mythtv package i build on my own. |
| [03:23:02] | Blue1: | I am using the debian binaries which are .26 |
| [03:23:10] | andreaz: | I also wonder, is the option to import a channels.conf gone? |
| [03:23:12] | Blue1: | .27 had some stability issues |
| [03:23:57] | andreaz: | Yeah, no problem with a crash or something. Can live with that. Its a good way to follow the affort of all the great developers here.. |
| [03:24:02] | Blue1: | that sounds like a mysql issue — I am a mysql n00b. |
| [03:24:22] | andreaz: | I poke it with mysql workbench from windows... :) |
| [03:24:26] | Blue1: | I built 0.27 from the git sources as well. — I think you should do that at least once. |
| [03:24:59] | Blue1: | do you know how to clear the autoexpire list? I have stuff that expired eons ago, that still shows up. |
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| [03:25:07] | andreaz: | Its a pain if you leave a running system alone for around a year and then try to compile a new version again... |
| [03:25:33] | Blue1: | and I have an odd database corruption — the titles for the programmes are correct, but the descriptions, do not always match |
| [03:25:54] | Blue1: | I have rebuilt the database from scratch — did not fix. |
| [03:26:32] | andreaz: | A while ago the database was easy to read for me. Now, a while later i look like a pig into the clockwork.. :) |
| [03:27:45] | Blue1: | okay so it's not just me. |
| [03:28:43] | andreaz: | :D |
| [03:29:15] | andreaz: | Hm. I once got the same problem, as my database got unusable anymore and i got no backup... as always in such situations... |
| [03:29:32] | andreaz: | But i really need to get a clue of the whole database again. |
| [03:29:53] | andreaz: | I wish i could feed the backend with a channels.conf. |
| [03:30:59] | Blue1: | i do not have a channels.conf |
| [03:31:10] | Blue1: | i just looked on my server |
| [03:32:06] | andreaz: | dvbscan build them up. Theyre is normaly no need for them, cause mythtv got its own channelscanner. |
| [03:32:38] | andreaz: | But that frequencies it write into the database seems to be all wrong... |
| [03:32:57] | andreaz: | 626000000, 666000000, 690000000 are not used here... |
| [03:33:55] | Blue1: | dumb questoin – are you over-the-air or cable? |
| [03:34:46] | andreaz: | I am over the air... |
| [03:34:54] | Blue1: | okay so am I |
| [03:35:17] | Blue1: | comcast removed all qam channels a few months ago — so I ditched the cable and went ota |
| [03:35:21] | andreaz: | Would love to stick some dvb-c cards or sticks into this pc, but with all that dumb regulation about hdtv here, i refuse to... |
| [03:35:31] | Blue1: | what tuner card to you have? |
| [03:35:47] | andreaz: | Ah. Could it be you posted anything about that a while ago? I read such a post... |
| [03:35:49] | Blue1: | ahh where is here? |
| [03:35:55] | andreaz: | Iam from germany. |
| [03:36:01] | Blue1: | ahh |
| [03:36:05] | andreaz: | Berlin to be exact.. :) |
| [03:36:08] | Blue1: | I just did a whois -- |
| [03:36:27] | andreaz: | Hehe.. |
| [03:36:47] | Blue1: | I am in the u.s. — Tucson |
| [03:36:58] | Blue1: | it was 81F/27C yesterday |
| [03:37:08] | andreaz: | The cable company here – Kabel Deutschland – introduce a new card called HD+ you need to watch the private stations in HD... Boring... |
| [03:37:16] | andreaz: | Agh! Its -5 here atm.. :D |
| [03:37:24] | andreaz: | Nice distance from here to there! :) |
| [03:37:28] | Blue1: | about 8:30 pm friday here |
| [03:37:34] | Blue1: | indeed |
| [03:37:48] | Blue1: | can't beat a 1 second ping time |
| [03:38:32] | andreaz: | hehehe.. :) Here its 4:38am... Why i am still awake!? :D |
| [03:39:14] | andreaz: | Mumble. Cant find the description of the database tables i once found. |
| [03:40:06] | Blue1: | oh I have had a few late debug sessions. http://www.pkill-9.com is me fwiw |
| [03:40:45] | andreaz: | Thats your site? |
| [03:41:20] | Blue1: | yes |
| [03:41:38] | Blue1: | the hangouts thing was a late night thing |
| [03:42:16] | andreaz: | Nice! Well done... I bet you can find a bunch of usefull stuff on it... |
| [03:42:35] | Blue1: | yeah it's all the stuff I need to remember |
| [03:42:43] | Blue1: | but usually forget |
| [03:42:52] | andreaz: | Okay, now a part for the channelscanner of mythtv.. :D |
| [03:42:59] | Blue1: | the kindle post — was about a week journey. |
| [03:43:41] | Blue1: | up until a couple of months ago, I'd never used kindle – my first ever ebook. |
| [03:43:45] | andreaz: | I wish i would note down tight corners i need to remember... Naw. I need that over and over again... :) |
| [03:44:20] | andreaz: | Last book i bought was Porno.. :D |
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| [03:44:28] | andreaz: | But its a real book. |
| [03:45:37] | Blue1: | Yeah as I learn things — I write them down — It has saved my many heartaches. |
| [03:45:45] | andreaz: | The successor of Trainspotting... But all is wrote in pure scottish slang... Nearly unreadable for me.. :) |
| [03:46:04] | Blue1: | I saw about 15 min. of trainspotting |
| [03:46:14] | andreaz: | I love that movie.. :) |
| [03:46:15] | Blue1: | not my cup of tea, as the brits say. |
| [03:46:55] | Blue1: | what kind of tv programming do you watch? |
| [03:48:03] | Blue1: | I don't know much about german tv – but one of the bad things here in the u.s. is that you find a show you enjoy, start watching it, then they jerk it off of tv – and you never know how it ends -- |
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| [03:48:39] | andreaz: | Hahaha! That seems to be identical worldwide.. :D |
| [03:49:25] | andreaz: | Hmmm... What i watch at the moment? Not really much. Im a docu guy. I always watch anything about history, astromic and such stuff... |
| [03:49:28] | Blue1: | ahh well what do you expect for free |
| [03:49:38] | Blue1: | me too |
| [03:49:44] | andreaz: | Ah and Formula 1 when they're on the track again. |
| [03:49:51] | Blue1: | i am into motocross |
| [03:50:03] | Blue1: | any plans to watch the olympics? |
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| [03:50:37] | andreaz: | A little as i got time... I head more to the soccer world championship... and Superbowl! :D |
| [03:50:51] | lapion: | is the priority setting on a recording broken? |
| [03:51:29] | andreaz: | lapion: In my setup you mean? |
| [03:52:02] | lapion: | sorry was meant for in general |
| [03:52:27] | andreaz: | Ah, okay.. :) Hm. No idea. Im fighting with the channelscan atm |
| [03:53:47] | Blue1: | i have no experience with priority settings – but I am all ears |
| [03:54:55] | lapion: | I have a channel that's available on digital (+2) and on analog (-1) |
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| [04:03:08] | andreaz: | Gnaaaaa! When i correct the frequencies in the database, i get a lock and am able to watch tv.... |
| [04:03:28] | andreaz: | But i refuse to do this for ~60 channels! :D |
| [04:04:26] | lapion: | andreaz, the past years there has nit been another possibility. |
| [04:04:45] | lapion: | analog scanning has been broken for years |
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| [04:05:49] | Blue1: | well, here in the u.s. there are only a handful of analogue stations |
| [04:06:11] | lapion: | use the web interface, and copy paste from the your cable provider. |
| [04:06:12] | Blue1: | where I live, there is only 1 low power uhf analogue station. |
| [04:06:16] | andreaz: | As i said a little ago, i would love to be able to import a channels.conf... It seems, the scanner is just adding 8000000Hz to the original transponder frequency... |
| [04:06:28] | Blue1: | nice |
| [04:06:32] | andreaz: | Im on dvb-t... :/ |
| [04:06:52] | Blue1: | we have 30–40 channels here – most of them are in spanish though – which doesn't help me. |
| [04:06:59] | andreaz: | :) |
| [04:07:02] | lapion: | dvb-t should scan correclty.. |
| [04:07:23] | lapion: | andreaz, what country |
| [04:07:24] | andreaz: | I tried... It write the wrong freqs to the database. No clue why. |
| [04:07:29] | andreaz: | Germany/Berlin |
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| [04:08:07] | andreaz: | Now i correct just one multiplex and boof – all 4 channels viewable... |
| [04:08:25] | andreaz: | Maybe i did something wrong while scanning, but i wonder what... |
| [04:08:43] | Blue1: | ahh I wonder if you are using — like qpsk, 64qam – that affects the frequency. |
| [04:09:05] | Blue1: | let me look again – brb |
| [04:09:13] | andreaz: | Its qam8, afaik... |
| [04:10:17] | andreaz: | Seems i put the multiplex to the db by hand.... |
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| [04:10:36] | andreaz: | Got no idea what a funny game the scanner want to play with me.. :) |
| [04:12:15] | lapion: | try a full scan with germany as country? |
| [04:13:02] | andreaz: | Yeah. Then i look into the table dtv_multiplex and all them got wrong freqs. |
| [04:13:11] | Blue1: | channel editor/channel scan/modulation – check that |
| [04:13:16] | lapion: | make sure you do not have another program locking the device |
| [04:13:44] | Blue1: | in mythtv-setup |
| [04:14:01] | andreaz: | The device was free, it locked onto all channels while scanning... But then.... |
| [04:14:31] | andreaz: | Yeah, maybe i could edit them in the channel editor instead inside the database itself.. Worth a shoot. |
| [04:15:03] | lapion: | well i have not had problems scanning for dvb channels yet, but then again i have not scanned for the last halve year. |
| [04:16:52] | andreaz: | Yeah, sure. Its not often used... Maybe the 3rd time is used it too.. :) |
| [04:17:04] | andreaz: | *i used it too |
| [04:17:24] | Blue1: | the modulation thing threw me way off when I went from cable to over-the-air |
| [04:17:35] | lapion: | btw 60 channels divided by 4 is 15 so it's not that much work to program 60 channels |
| [04:18:28] | Blue1: | I love hand hacking! NOT! |
| [04:18:30] | andreaz: | Thats true... Its doable. But i just wonder whats wrong with the scanner. |
| [04:19:08] | andreaz: | dvb-t is so ugly compared to the fullhd cablestation i got on the regular tv. |
| [04:19:11] | lapion: | well i wonder what's wrong with priorities |
| [04:19:13] | Blue1: | okay off to watch some zombie movie — good night all. |
| [04:19:31] | andreaz: | Take care! Go on with your notes! :) |
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| [04:20:56] | lapion: | if i have channel with a negative priority all programs no matter what priority you set the value the actual priority remains 1 |
| [04:21:55] | andreaz: | Hmm... But negative prios are supported? Got no idea. |
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| [04:39:13] | wagnerrp: | all priorities for all parts (rule, channel, tuner) are summed together in a single value by the scheduler |
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| [12:46:32] | lapion: | what happened to mythtv.org |
| [12:46:54] | stuartm: | just restarting it after some config changes, should be back |
| [12:47:25] | lapion: | nvm |
| [12:47:36] | lapion: | ok thanks.. |
| [12:50:01] | warped_: | Hi stuartm. As I see You here – I'm wonder Your opinion on my post on myth-users regarding "TV metadatalookup – do I do something wrong?" Should I fill guy for this? |
| [12:50:58] | warped_: | s/guy/bug/ |
| [12:52:58] | stuartm: | warped_: I'll take a look in a moment |
| [12:53:08] | stuartm: | another restart required |
| [12:53:36] | warped_: | stuartm: thx alot! |
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| [14:21:45] | lapion: | when running mythtv-frontend on a double headed xubuntu ( xfce) the frontend keeps on defaulting to the screen where the desktop is in stead of the screen designated. |
| [14:21:52] | lapion: | how can i solve this ? |
| [14:24:39] | stuartm: | lapion: you've select the screen you want to use in the Appearance Settings (MythTV) ? |
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| [14:41:52] | lapion: | yes stuartm |
| [14:42:46] | stuartm: | are you using a xinerama, twinview or separate X screens? |
| [14:43:38] | lapion: | I guess xinerama.. |
| [14:44:06] | lapion: | xinerama of course |
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| [15:05:13] | lapion: | stuartm, yes itÅ› xinerama stretch |
| [15:06:50] | stuartm: | it should work then, try switching the screen in the settings, maybe the order is the reverse of what you think? i.e. Screen 2 is actually the desktop? |
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| [15:13:02] | lapion: | screen 0 is a 15" (1280x800) and screen 1 is a 27" (1920x1080) |
| [15:14:29] | lapion: | when I set the fe to start on screen 1 and start it with the mouse cursor on 0 the fe appears on 0 with the resolution of screen 1. |
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| [17:27:18] | houms: | for recordings to show up in MythVideo, am I supposed to be saving to data dir defined in apache conf? |
| [17:29:12] | [R]: | mythvideo doesnt show recordings... nor does it have antying to do with apache |
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| [17:31:38] | stuartm: | lapion: I guess it's some xfce specific issue, I've never had a problem here using kde + twinview |
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| [17:36:19] | houms: | Thank R. I am trying to solve failing streaming of recording programs. didn't know if it was related |
| [17:37:06] | houms: | the mythweb page works correctly and i can do everything except play asx stream or download any of the programs, keep getting not found error |
| [17:37:20] | [R]: | you have to set it up properly |
| [17:39:00] | houms: | there is no proper documentation that even mentions these parts that i have seen. plus I am not sure if I should be pointing to /data for the recordings . this is precomiled from debian multimedia repo |
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| [17:58:14] | houms: | i keep gettin error like this and here is mythweb.conf https://paste.debian.net/79668/ |
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| [18:22:31] | houms: | is mysql.txt required for mythweb? or even used anymore? |
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| [19:38:42] | stuartm: | not used |
| [19:43:48] | houms: | damn it. i have been struggling for a better part of a week. just cannot figure out what is misconfigured for streaming |
| [19:44:31] | stuartm: | xris: ^^ |
| [19:45:18] | Kwisher: | anyone know how to rollback to .26 on xubuntu 13.10, f/e only so db issues |
| [19:45:37] | houms: | i have not configured auth at all, mainly cause it will only sit on my internal network, but also to simply the setup for now, and still cannot get it working. |
| [19:48:21] | houms: | when is the mythweb/pl/stream/ dir created? |
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| [19:53:05] | xris: | stuartm: I haven't been able to get streaming working properly in years. |
| [19:53:13] | xris: | then again, haven't really tried. |
| [19:53:38] | stuartm: | figured that if anyone knew how it was meant to be setup it would be you :/ |
| [19:53:56] | xris: | honestly it's probably ffmpeg changing parameters |
| [19:54:02] | houms: | not sure if the debian packaging is just confusing the heck out of me or what |
| [19:54:08] | xris: | that's also likely |
| [19:54:22] | xris: | sorry, have to go pay attention to my kid before he breaks the ps3... |
| [19:54:30] | houms: | well iget http://pastie.org/8689545 |
| [19:55:01] | xris: | oh, that looks like an apache config issue |
| [19:55:03] | houms: | it seems it does not know where to look. i was hoping someone had a working streaming mythweb that would be willing to share their mythweb.conf |
| [19:55:05] | xris: | mod_rewrite not working properly |
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| [20:01:34] | houms: | thank you for that tidbi xris, I looked at the webconf again and i commented out 171 and 175 and uncommented 179 and 180, and now i get the download link to work |
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| [20:01:42] | houms: | that is a step further than i was for sure |
| [20:01:58] | houms: | those lines numbers being https://paste.debian.net/79668/ |
| [20:03:40] | houms: | although the browser says 1391283960.asx which is a pl file, when i open in vlc nothing happens |
| [20:04:44] | stuartm: | houms: if it's any consolation, in the next release of MythTV it will just work without any tweaking of the apache config or symlinking of directories |
| [20:05:31] | houms: | is there a beta or anythin out. I am willing to use it now... even if it is rough around the edges, as getting this work is very important to me. |
| [20:05:37] | houms: | vlc debug shows https://paste.debian.net/79692/ |
| [20:06:08] | stuartm: | houms: that part isn't actually written yet, but will be by the time of the release |
| [20:07:05] | houms: | :/, if I could just get some documentation of what needs to go where, it would be helpful. the debian package comes with no docs for mythweb except releasenotes and news which are both not helpful |
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| [20:10:33] | stuartm: | if there is documentation of that feature it would be somewhere in the wiki, http://wiki.mythtv.org |
| [20:11:26] | stuartm: | but I honestly don't know where, and since mythweb is being replaced it's not high on anyone's priority list to write documentation |
| [20:12:33] | stuartm: | xris: do you know if was there a reason that we're using mod_php instead of mod_fcgi on alcor? |
| [20:13:11] | stuartm: | I vaguely recall some discussion about it many years ago but that's all |
| [20:13:44] | houms: | for example when i want to direct download the file from mythweb it says a pl file as well. should it not actually be the recorded file? |
| [20:16:44] | afpup: | iirc, mythweb direct download links to a perl script that then queries the database to figure out where the file actually is. |
| [20:20:15] | houms: | yes unfortunately the mythweb doc does not explain anything regarding streaming |
| [20:20:56] | houms: | afpup that is what it seems like, but when i clink the direct or the asx stream i get asked how to open the .pl (perl extension) file |
| [20:21:07] | houms: | I assume it should be executing it instead |
| [20:21:32] | houms: | but nowhere is this documented in mythweb wiki that i could find as to why that would be |
| [20:22:20] | houms: | or is that cgi related? |
| [20:23:56] | houms: | I see the bottom of mythweb.conf has http://pastie.org/8689623 which is why i ask |
| [20:24:10] | afpup: | it should be executing it, does your web server (apache?/lighttp?/tomcat?) have the appropriate perl module(s) loaded? |
| [20:25:59] | houms: | it is apache which was installed as dep during the myth install here is what /etc/apache2/mods-enabled dir shows pastie.org/8689628 |
| [20:26:27] | houms: | It seems I am missing it? |
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| [20:26:46] | afpup: | what's in /etc/apache2/mods-available ? |
| [20:27:20] | houms: | http://pastie.org/8689630 |
| [20:28:47] | houms: | possible the libapache2-mod-perl2 package ? http://pastie.org/8689633 |
| [20:29:38] | afpup: | Think that is the one, just looking at one of my deb boxes to see which package I used. |
| [20:30:27] | afpup: | yep, that's the one. |
| [20:31:29] | afpup: | I can |
| [20:31:55] | afpup: | I can't remember if it automatically enables the mod, so check in mods-enabled before restarting apache |
| [20:32:04] | Hydr0p0nX: | mythweather doesn't seem to be working =/ |
| [20:32:52] | Hydr0p0nX: | doesn't find my city, state, zip, or NOAA weather station id |
| [20:34:07] | afpup: | last time that happened to me, I had to enable debug logging, check what myth was calling (external scripts) and then run that command by hand to see what was going on, IIRC, I had updated perl and it broke something. |
| [20:34:32] | houms: | okay afpup installed, and it restarted apache and the mod seems to be loaded now, but when i click on asx stream or direct download it is still .pl file |
| [20:35:12] | houms: | where is log level setting for myth? |
| [20:35:31] | afpup: | that log comment was directed at Hydro |
| [20:35:52] | houms: | yes afpup checked mods-enabled as you suggested and it shows perl.load |
| [20:36:13] | houms: | though no perl.conf like some of the other modules, but not sure that is related. |
| [20:36:57] | houms: | sorry, afpup |
| [20:40:55] | afpup: | as root, what is the output of 'a2query -m perl' ? |
| [20:41:57] | houms: | perl (enabled by maintainer script) |
| [20:43:55] | afpup: | did you clear the cache on your browser? |
| [20:45:32] | houms: | yes. i even tried it in chrome and in chrome it just shows the perl script output it on the webpage http://10.0.0.100//mythweb/pl/stream/1201/1391286780.asx |
| [20:45:44] | houms: | so basically same behavior |
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| [20:49:22] | houms: | does the perl module depend on cgi? |
| [20:49:48] | afpup: | it needs cgi support enabled to run, yes. |
| [20:50:53] | houms: | how can i verify cgi support is enabled? |
| [20:51:49] | afpup: | a2query -m cgi |
| [20:53:35] | houms: | No module matches cgi |
| [20:53:50] | afpup: | you have it installed, I guess you could just a2enmod cgi |
| [20:53:52] | houms: | dpkg -l | grep cgi |
| [20:53:53] | houms: | ii libfcgi-perl |
| [20:54:31] | houms: | you are the man..... |
| [20:54:33] | houms: | that did it |
| [20:54:44] | houms: | wholly crap |
| [20:55:28] | houms: | thank you very much afpup. I sincerely appreciate it |
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| [20:56:08] | afpup: | no prob... Its been so long since I had to configure mythweb, couldn't find my old notes :-(. |
| [20:58:05] | houms: | man your notes should def be in the docs somewhere. now I can go and tell the deb maintainers to fix there package. not that they will necessarily do it, but at least they know |
| [20:58:40] | afpup: | lol, good luck. |
| [20:59:48] | houms: | < owes ^ beer |
| [20:59:51] | houms: | now to try and get mythrokuplayer working |
| [20:59:56] | houms: | thanks again afpup |
| [21:00:01] | afpup: | you would think that if libapache2-mod-perl2 required cgi support enabled, and they auto-enable mod_perl that they would check to ensure mod_cgi is also enabled, but I've never looked at their post-install scripts |
| [21:02:09] | houms: | it is very strange and i think it is an issue on their package as the apache conf file has to have the rewrite rules changed as well so it will work |
| [21:02:46] | houms: | thank you for your patience. this gets me exactly what i needed and now i can even try and get it working with the roku box |
| [21:03:13] | afpup: | good luck with the roku box... haven't had time to play with those yet |
| [21:04:16] | houms: | they are pretty neat. i was transcoding to mp4 and then using plex to serve the video a la mythlink script which is working good, but I do not like plex and would love to cut it out completely |
| [21:05:20] | houms: | the mythrokyplayer channel for roku looks like it is what i need. i have it installed on roku and it can talk to the mythtv backend, but I am not clear php-wise where it is looking for the data. if i could figure that out it would be good |
| [21:05:34] | houms: | we finally cut the cord in our home |
| [21:06:46] | afpup: | I'd love to go that route, but without my satelite, I'd get almost nothing. Just 2 channels OTA, and my sat is my internet connection. |
| [21:08:41] | houms: | how far are you from metro area? |
| [21:08:56] | afpup: | about 200 miles :-) |
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| [21:17:27] | houms: | 200 :(, yeah i see your struggle |
| [21:17:50] | houms: | and satelite is the only internet option? |
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| [21:21:53] | afpup: | that or dialup |
| [21:22:58] | afpup: | I actually can't complain, I get better throughput/bandwidth then most dsl/cable customers, just have a higher bill to go with it. |
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| [21:27:48] | houms: | damn, that sucks , but i guess it could be worse |
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| [21:28:40] | TSCHAKMac: | is the original Hauppauge HD-PVR still pretty much the only way to interface a cable box to MythTV (not counting Firewire), or have other options become available? |
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| [21:29:28] | afpup: | TSCHAKMac: not that've I seen. Still use 2x HD-PVR's (1212's) myself. |
| [21:29:51] | TSCHAKMac: | :-( |
| [21:30:04] | TSCHAKMac: | so, how have you guys actually been able to keep going? |
| [21:30:13] | TSCHAKMac: | it literally looks like all of your options are being taken away from you. |
| [21:30:34] | [R]: | what? |
| [21:32:42] | TSCHAKMac: | i mean, literally in terms of getting stuff in, there's jack shit, because virtually all of the solutions either revolve around (1) converting to component and then sending to an HD-PVR, or (2) dealing with a digital stream with no hope of getting anything but channels in the clear, or praying to god that your head-end didn't encrypt everything. |
| [21:33:20] | [R]: | converting to component? |
| [21:33:35] | TSCHAKMac: | yes, with an HDCP stripper like the HDFury |
| [21:33:46] | afpup: | if you're in the USA, you have the cable card routes – HDHR Prime, etc, |
| [21:33:50] | [R]: | i've never seen a cable box without component... |
| [21:34:42] | TSCHAKMac: | [R] my first cable box, a Motorola DCT6200 had component…they made me replace it, with a DCT3200, which did not have component. |
| [21:34:56] | [R]: | weird |
| [21:35:27] | TSCHAKMac: | [R] this is not an isolated incident, and as customers upgrade their cable installations, this happens more and more |
| [21:35:41] | TSCHAKMac: | afpup: and again, you're at the mercy of the cable head end, for their broadcast flag settings |
| [21:36:15] | TSCHAKMac: | I am sorry... |
| [21:36:35] | TSCHAKMac: | this conversation isn't productive, and i'm making myself, and everybody else depressed... |
| [21:36:37] | TSCHAKMac: | i'll go. |
| [21:36:56] | TSCHAKMac: | it just seems as times go on, the options just keep getting worse. |
| [21:37:18] | [R]: | i dunno, i've been using myth for like 6 years |
| [21:37:19] | [R]: | exact same setup |
| [21:38:06] | TSCHAKMac: | [R] try buying the same hardware today. |
| [21:38:12] | TSCHAKMac: | good luck. |
| [21:38:20] | [R]: | http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-1212-Definiti . . . ywords=hdpvr |
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| [21:38:31] | afpup: | like [R], been running essentially the same setup for about 6–7 years. PVR150(s) to HDPVR, recently added a HDHR-US3 for the few OTA channels I do get. |
| [21:38:40] | TSCHAKMac: | Hauppauge is EOLing that unit at the end of this year. |
| [21:39:02] | TSCHAKMac: | just so you know |
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| [21:39:40] | [R]: | and the 150 has been eol for like 20 years |
| [21:39:43] | [R]: | and people still use and buy them |
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| [22:04:40] | wagnerrp: | sadly, there is currently no viable replacement for it |
| [22:06:18] | afpup: | I was hoping someone would work on colossus support for linux, but never came about. Not sure where to start myself. |
| [22:06:48] | wagnerrp: | someone did, there's just a problem with availability |
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| [22:39:58] | buu: | Question, the built in mythtv video player is crashing attempting to play certain high definition mkv files, the error on screen is something like "a/v sync failure", is there any fixes for this lying around someplace or do I need to switch to an external player? |
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| [22:41:09] | buu: | 2014-02–01 02:47:24.657834 E Player(0): AVSync: Unknown error in videoOutput, aborting playback. |
| [22:41:18] | buu: | 2014-02–01 02:47:24.583317 E VidOutVDPAU: Picture format is not supported. |
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| [23:05:49] | stuartm: | buu: to avoid confusion, what you are describing is not a crash, a crash means the entire application exits and the last thing appearing in the log is SIGSEGV |
| [23:06:20] | stuartm: | what you are seeing is simply a failure in playback |
| [23:07:29] | stuartm: | buu: pastebin the output of 'mediainfo {filename}' |
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| [23:39:33] | Warped: | warped_ Please select another ID. You should have been receiving messages for months that it was taken already. Thank you. |
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| [23:43:54] | sid3windr: | he wants the one with the underscore? |
| [23:47:55] | Warped: | Underscore is when you are not verified. I've been getting failed login messages for months. |
| [23:48:54] | wagnerrp: | no. underscore is when someone else is already logged in as "warped", so your client automatically switches to a backup name |
| [23:49:28] | Warped: | If you join without logging in it gives you underscore. |
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| [23:49:47] | wagnerrp: | no. if you join as the same name as someone else, it gives you an underscore |
| [23:50:03] | wagnerrp: | i can be "wagnerrp" all day log without logging in and the system doesn't care |
| [23:50:23] | Warped: | Until you bother to set up an account it will give you an underscore. That was how it was with me until I set it up properly. |
| [23:50:23] | skd5aner: | I know I always have to shew away people trying to come in as "skd5aner_" |
| [23:50:26] | skd5aner: | ;) |
| [23:50:51] | wagnerrp: | no, it will give you an underscore because someone was already logged in as "warped" |
| [23:51:13] | skd5aner: | I believ wagnerrp is actually correct on this one |
| [23:51:20] | sid3windr: | yes he is |
| [23:51:28] | skd5aner: | I didn't register my name for a while many years ago – didn't require me to have an _ |
| [23:51:32] | Warped: | Have it your way. I can only tell you what it did to me until I created the login account and was verified. |
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| [23:51:48] | buu: | Technically its your irc client failing to acquire the username 'warped' and defaulting to a new nick |
| [23:51:50] | randomnamewithno is now known as seenounderscore | |
| [23:51:53] | seenounderscore: | boo |
| [23:51:56] | buu: | Most irc clients default to adding underscores |
| [23:52:07] | buu: | Some switch you to guest nicks |
| [23:52:18] | buu: | Some add dashes! |
| [23:52:31] | seenounderscore is now known as withdashes--- | |
| [23:52:45] | skd5aner: | MrsDash- |
| [23:52:58] | buu: | (The point being this is all unrelated to the ircd) |
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| [23:53:24] | sid3windr: | guest nicks actually are what services switch you to if the nick you are using has been protected |
| [23:53:42] | wagnerrp: | has been protected, and the owner kicks you off |
| [23:53:57] | wagnerrp: | if i'm not around, anyone can use "wagnerrp", until such time as i choose to boot them |
| [23:54:02] | sid3windr: | depending on the network you can set an identify timeout |
| [23:54:05] | buu: | I'm pretty sure freenode services do not ever tell a client which nickname to use |
| [23:54:08] | sid3windr: | dunno if it's the case on freenode |
| [23:54:18] | sid3windr: | buu: no, they tell the network, obviously |
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| [23:54:46] | buu: | sid3windr: I'm pretty sure the network doesn't specify any message that tells a client that its nick has been changed |
| [23:54:51] | sid3windr: | <services> hey guize, buu changed nick to guest1234 |
| [23:55:01] | sid3windr: | <network> kk, sends out NICK to all connected clients |
| [23:55:06] | sid3windr: | <buu's mirk> ooh, I changed nick |
| [23:55:12] | sid3windr: | yes, that is how it works. |
| [23:55:28] | sid3windr: | a simple nickchange line works just as well for your own nick |
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| [23:55:37] | buu: | Oh, hrm, maybe. |
| [23:56:12] | buu: | That makes sense |
| [23:57:35] | Warped: | Sorry. Only reason I started comments was because they were ignoring direct chat. *Back to lurking* |
| [23:58:36] | buu: | haha |
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| [23:58:48] | sid3windr: | [02|00:58:39] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- RELEASE removes an enforcer for your nick or |
| [23:58:51] | sid3windr: | [02|00:58:39] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- changes the nick of a user that is using your |
| [23:58:54] | sid3windr: | [02|00:58:39] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- nick. |
| [23:58:57] | sid3windr: | fyi |
| [23:59:03] | sid3windr: | if it's registered you can just take it back forcefully |
| [23:59:27] | stuartm: | ouch, the original Warped should have registered the nick :/ Not nice to have the nick you've been using for years snatched from you :( |
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| [23:59:49] | Warped: | I did register and have been "Warped" for a long time. :) |
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