| Wednesday, January 15th, 2014, 00:27 UTC | ||
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| [01:23:23] | sleezio: | hello all...how do you delete a channel(s) from the channel editor? i see there's an option to make 'visible'....but even with that uncheled, i still see the channels in the frontend |
| [01:23:37] | sleezio: | *unchecked |
| [01:23:59] | sleezio: | do you have to manually delete them from the mysql? |
| [01:26:12] | wagnerrp: | try 'd' |
| [01:26:45] | sleezio: | aaaah, thats it, thanks |
| [01:29:29] | sleezio: | in my neck of the woods, i get about 26 OTA channels, unfortunately 10 of them are religious channels |
| [01:30:44] | sleezio: | hopefully this new antenna i ordered will reach out a bit further and grab a few more channels |
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| [02:24:06] | ikiller: | I'm running 0.27 and trying to figure something out. Is this the right place? |
| [02:24:32] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [02:25:42] | ikiller: | Specifically, I can't find the "TV Settings" that is referenced in all of the online documentation. Did something change in 0.27, or is something wrong with my install? |
| [02:25:58] | wagnerrp: | could you elaborate on that? |
| [02:27:28] | ikiller: | Yes. Let me get the info together for you. . |
| [02:28:27] | wagnerrp: | no, i mean what are you trying to do |
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| [02:31:46] | ikiller: | I am trying to follow instructions about auto transcoding, or setting the "Extra Space" setting. They all refer to a menu at: Setup->TV Settings in mythfrontend. |
| [02:33:16] | wagnerrp: | setup -> video -> general -> second page |
| [02:33:45] | wagnerrp: | autotranscode is something you set per recording rule |
| [02:34:33] | wagnerrp: | although without a cutlist, transcoding isn't going to do anything unless you convert to mpeg4 asp, or rtjpeg |
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| [02:34:38] | wagnerrp: | you likely don't want to do either |
| [02:34:56] | ikiller: | I have a HDHomerun Prime and I want to get auto-transcoding to mkv/h264 to save space. |
| [02:35:56] | wagnerrp: | unless you need to save space for use on a mobile device (not likely since you want mkvs), it's easier to simply buy more hard drive space |
| [02:35:57] | ikiller: | I have been a bit frustrated as all the online documentation refers to a settings menu structure that doesn't exist. |
| [02:39:19] | ikiller: | When did the menu structure change? |
| [02:39:32] | wagnerrp: | either 0.26 or 0.27, i can't remember |
| [02:39:39] | ikiller: | Thanks. |
| [02:41:31] | ikiller: | I was also hoping to play with transcoding in order try cutting out commercials. I'm also using XBMC with the cmyth add-on and commercial skipping isn't working with the HDHomerun recordings. |
| [02:41:49] | wagnerrp: | cutting out commercials only works if you create a cut list first |
| [02:42:08] | wagnerrp: | which means going into the frontend, playing a recording, hitting 'e' to enter edit mode, and defining it |
| [02:42:59] | ikiller: | I though that the info from the commercial flagging job could work for cutting out commercials during transcode. |
| [02:43:20] | wagnerrp: | typically, people do a "lossless transcode", which means clipping out the sections defined in the cutlist, leaving the rest untouched, and fixing the handful of frames around the cuts |
| [02:43:45] | wagnerrp: | the commercial flagger creates a skip list, which can be loaded and used by the frontend to either notify the user of commercials, or automatically skip over them |
| [02:44:07] | wagnerrp: | but the commercial flagger is not accurate enough to permanently remove those sections without the user at least verifying their locations first |
| [02:46:13] | ikiller: | one workaround for my XBMC comskip problem that I was considering trying was transcoding to mkv/h264 then running the commercial flagger. |
| [02:46:19] | ikiller: | Some people in XBMC land thought that variable frame rate files could be causing a problem. |
| [02:47:18] | wagnerrp: | in the US, with a prime, you could have format changes between 480i30, 480p60, 720p60, and 1080i30 |
| [02:47:26] | wagnerrp: | but it's fairly uncommon for channels to change formats |
| [02:47:45] | wagnerrp: | in any case, mythtv's internal transcoder will not do h264, except when used with the HLS server |
| [02:57:07] | ikiller: | No easy way to have it point to external transcoder, delete old file, and update database to point to new file? (By easy I mean I don't feel like adapting old crusty scripts.) |
| [02:57:34] | wagnerrp: | scripts, yes... old and crusty, that's up to you |
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| [03:00:29] | ikiller: | Ok, thanks. I have been away from MythTV for about five years and I was a bit bummed by the confusing documentation. I remember it being easier to figure out before, maybe I'm just getting old. |
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| [03:04:49] | kisak: | wagnerrp: I have HD channels that allow commercials to be SD and not upscaled |
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| [03:05:32] | wagnerrp: | and it actually changes format? |
| [03:06:24] | kisak: | I'm fairly sure it does, it's been a while since I cared to pay attention |
| [03:08:07] | kisak: | I do remember CSI episodes where a small amount of the show content was also SD, because whatever published the mpeg2ts stream was sluggish switching back to the main content |
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| [03:10:44] | kisak: | so yes, my memory is saying that the framerate and resolution changed in the playback data overlay |
| [03:11:35] | kisak: | it's getting less common as there's only local commercials in SD these days |
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| [03:23:14] | Hydr0p0nX: | hmmm |
| [03:23:40] | Hydr0p0nX: | wonderin' if i might have found a solution to my audio + nvidia driver issues |
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| [03:43:25] | Hilikus: | hey guys |
| [03:44:00] | Hilikus: | i'm trying to delete a channel from mythweb but it is not working, i can't delete it. i don't see anything in the backend log |
| [03:44:28] | Hilikus: | my mythweb is 2:0.27.0+fixes.20140114.99f5464–0ubuntu0mythbuntu4 |
| [03:44:41] | wagnerrp: | use mythtv-setup |
| [03:45:17] | Hilikus: | i need to delete many channels, around 100 so i wanted to do it from the web. is there another way to do mass deletes? |
| [03:46:14] | wagnerrp: | if you've got a channel lineup that large, changes are you've exceeded the maximum number of elements in a form table |
| [03:46:39] | Hilikus: | i didn't know there was a limit. that might actually be it then |
| [03:46:52] | wagnerrp: | i think it's a soft limit configured in apache |
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| [03:54:07] | Hilikus: | if i delete a channel and i populate my guide tomorrow and it has data for the channel i deleted today, will the channel be re-added? |
| [03:54:27] | wagnerrp: | remove it from your schedules direct lineup |
| [03:54:39] | wagnerrp: | and it won't exist to re-add |
| [03:56:31] | Hilikus: | i use an external grabber |
| [03:56:49] | wagnerrp: | i don't believe xmltv grabbers can add channels |
| [03:59:05] | Hilikus: | this is the command i run |
| [03:59:08] | Hilikus: | mythfilldatabase --refresh-all --file --sourceid 1 --xmlfile |
| [03:59:29] | Hilikus: | i can't find a description on the help whether --refresh-all repopulates the channels themselves |
| [03:59:41] | Hilikus: | do you know? |
| [04:00:12] | wagnerrp: | don't know off hand |
| [04:00:21] | wagnerrp: | i'm not too up on the deeper behaviors of mythfilldatabase |
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| [12:40:33] | noaXess: | hey all.. |
| [12:41:31] | noaXess: | fresh install of mythtv 0.27, configured all..sounds ok.. created a channels.conf and now want to import into into database.. but in Scan Type i don't have Import channels.conf option |
| [12:41:34] | noaXess: | any hint? |
| [12:42:18] | Merlin83b: | Scan directly from mythtv-setup, not from something else. |
| [12:43:50] | noaXess: | in mythtv-setup i have to provide frequency and here are some freq's to scan.. |
| [12:43:57] | noaXess: | switzerland.. |
| [12:44:20] | noaXess: | or which scan type i should take? last scan is years ago ;) |
| [12:44:34] | Merlin83b: | What sort of broadcast are you scanning? DVB? -T? -S? |
| [12:44:39] | noaXess: | in FUll Scan, i only have two countries |
| [12:44:45] | noaXess: | DVB-C |
| [12:45:21] | Merlin83b: | Hmm, afraid I have no experience of DVB-C at all. The frequency is probably in your channels.conf though |
| [12:45:26] | noaXess: | if i eg. provide the freq which i have in channels.conf i can scan inside mythtv-setup.. but ther are some other freq's |
| [12:45:41] | noaXess: | yes.. thats why i wanted to import channels.conf, cause it's fine ;) |
| [12:45:56] | noaXess: | but why is Import channels.conf not available in mythtv-setup? |
| [12:47:24] | Merlin83b: | No idea, I haven't used that since about 0.19 – scanning for DVB-T works fine for me (and DVB-S more recently) |
| [12:48:10] | Merlin83b: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Adding_Digital_Cab . . . hannels.conf |
| [12:48:14] | Merlin83b: | Don't know how up to date that it. |
| [12:48:21] | noaXess: | i saw that in past versions.. but maybe it's gone.. or something to enable that it work |
| [12:48:38] | noaXess: | already read that |
| [12:49:01] | noaXess: | they also say, choose scan type for import channels.conf.. |
| [12:49:06] | noaXess: | but no scan type there |
| [12:49:16] | Merlin83b: | Out of date then, I suppose. |
| [12:49:54] | noaXess: | AFAIK it has been removed because it had so many side effects. |
| [12:49:54] | noaXess: | Scanning is vastly improved in 0.20 so there should no longer be a need for it. |
| [12:49:54] | wagnerrp: | scan for channels, using a channel.conf has never really worked |
| [12:50:03] | noaXess: | other source ;).. so import channels.conf no mre possible.. hm.. |
| [12:50:09] | noaXess: | hey wagnerrp |
| [12:50:12] | noaXess: | long time ago ;) |
| [12:50:23] | noaXess: | so.. do i need scan for each freq. i found in my channels.conf? |
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| [12:53:00] | wagnerrp: | i think you might need to use a "scan using an existing transport" |
| [12:53:12] | wagnerrp: | tune to one channel externally, use that, and it should pick up the rest |
| [12:53:44] | noaXess: | there is no existing transport |
| [12:54:07] | wagnerrp: | you tune a channel externally, using some other utility, and mythtv just uses that existing tuned channel |
| [12:54:41] | wagnerrp: | i've never done it, i may be misinterpreting things i read while only half paying attention |
| [12:54:44] | noaXess: | can't follow.. sorry |
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| [13:04:02] | wagnerrp: | why is my phone getting a low battery warning AFTER i plugged it in... |
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| [19:56:12] | sleezio: | hello, you know that sound you hear on your tv when a cellphone is near it and pings a tower? well, since i installed mythtv the other day, i've been hearing it.....but i don't have a cellphone...anyone else experiencing this? |
| [20:09:46] | stuartm: | sleezio: any chance you may be under investigation by law enforcement or security services? |
| [20:11:02] | sleezio: | no |
| [20:11:55] | sleezio: | it's coming through mythtv, i can sttop mythtv frontend(xbmc) and the sound stops...i'm guessing it's something to do with the signal/transcoding *shrug |
| [20:14:29] | stuartm: | the sound occurs only during playback of recordings, or does it happen when it's not doing anything? |
| [20:14:45] | sleezio: | only while watching live tv |
| [20:15:11] | sleezio: | OTA |
| [20:16:13] | stuartm: | there could be a mobile transmitter in line of sight of your antenna, possibly that's the cause |
| [20:16:27] | sleezio: | i used Kaffeine for about a year prior to mythtv, never experienced the sound, |
| [20:17:04] | stuartm: | well it's not something that MythTV is doing, can't speak for xbmc as that's a different project entirely |
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| [20:52:24] | sleezio: | question, i installed mythbuntu, it came with chromium...i want to remove it and use firefox...when i went to uninstall chromium, it alerted me of ffmpeg codecs would be removed as well...does mythtv depend on those codecs? |
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| [21:40:34] | stuartm: | no |
| [21:41:05] | stuartm: | it uses ffmpeg, but it's own internal copy |
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| [23:09:24] | wagnerrp: | stuartm, sleezio: that sound would only show up if you were getting interference on some analog interface between mythtv and your speakers |
| [23:11:20] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: right, but we've ruled that out already, so discounting the obvious there has to be another cause |
| [23:12:06] | wagnerrp: | that's all it could be |
| [23:12:19] | wagnerrp: | or... the same interference on the broadcaster side |
| [23:12:37] | wagnerrp: | someone holding a mic boom with a noisy cell phone in their pocket |
| [23:12:50] | wagnerrp: | but that noise is not going to appear in any digital transmission |
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| [23:13:35] | stuartm: | he didn't say it was digital |
| [23:14:24] | wagnerrp: | he's in the US, with an HVR-1250 |
| [23:14:36] | stuartm: | it would be impossible with digital, but analogue ... |
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| [23:14:56] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: well you've got access to info that I don't ;) |
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| [23:42:08] | slee: | i'm curious, my tuner card has never gone over 85% signal strength, is this normal or possibly just this hauppauge card i'm using? |
| [23:42:39] | wagnerrp: | are you having any problems with signal dropouts during recordings? |
| [23:42:44] | slee: | nope |
| [23:42:49] | wagnerrp: | then i wouldn't worry about it |
| [23:42:53] | slee: | every channel is super clear |
| [23:43:37] | slee: | oh, i'm happy with it's performance, i was just curious as to why it'll never go over 85%..i live within 8 miles of a 100KW tv station, so i know it isn't a distance/signal prob |
| [23:44:31] | slee: | i had the same issue when using Kaffeine |
| [23:44:38] | wagnerrp: | i'm fairly certain the FCC maximum isn't anywhere near that |
| [23:46:25] | slee: | earlier, i hooked up a 2nd antenna, hooked both antennas up through a cable splitter backwards, works like a charm, able to get the channels in the other direction now |
| [23:47:09] | wagnerrp: | just understand that while you're getting the signal from both directional antenna, you're also getting the noise from them |
| [23:47:31] | wagnerrp: | so unless you add notch filters, you're going to get reduced signal quality |
| [23:47:44] | slee: | noise meter shows 0%, i don't see any distortion in the pictures, all is good so far |
| [23:47:48] | wagnerrp: | although again, if you're not getting any signal dropouts, it's not anything to worry about |
| [23:48:19] | wagnerrp: | there's always going to be noise in the signal, so i have no idea what "0%" might indicate |
| [23:48:45] | slee: | well, i'm new to mythtv, not sure how reliable it's noise meter is while scanning for channels |
| [23:48:48] | wagnerrp: | usually noise levels are measured in decibels below the signal |
| [23:48:57] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has a noise meter? |
| [23:49:07] | wagnerrp: | i'll be honest, it's been years since i've scanned |
| [23:49:15] | slee: | the backend has one it shows when you're scanning |
| [23:49:28] | slee: | next to signal strength |
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| [23:53:47] | sleezio: | mine looks like this(scan/noise meter): http://mylinuxramblings.files.wordpress.com/2 . . . shot251.jpeg |
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