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| [02:02:01] | KWisher: | having a problem with a sluggish system running .27 from mythbuntu ppa |
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| [02:04:33] | KWisher: | when starting live tv i get "all tuners are currently busy" error |
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| [02:27:28] | Korny: | skd5aner: hmmm I've had 0 issues iwth 0.27. The only issue I have I don't even know if its version specific but if I name a front end the same as a previous one I am unable to change the graphics setting unless I delete all references of the frontend in mythconverg |
| [02:27:51] | Korny: | KWisher: Have you confirmed they aren't busy? |
| [02:28:01] | KWisher: | yes |
| [02:28:21] | KWisher: | i have 7 total tuners |
| [02:28:44] | Korny: | what tunners? |
| [02:29:20] | KWisher: | a mix, hdhr prime, hdhr, and 2 pci dvb's |
| [02:29:43] | KWisher: | master & secondary backends |
| [02:30:02] | KWisher: | logs show no errors |
| [02:30:32] | wagnerrp: | file permissions issues? |
| [02:31:23] | KWisher: | this only occurs when i use the mythbuntu ppa, if i rollback to stock .27 the error doesn't appear |
| [02:31:28] | wagnerrp: | the "all tuners busy" error more accurately means no tuners available that mythtv thinks it can record on |
| [02:31:44] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs for errors |
| [02:32:05] | skd5aner: | KWisher: do you get the problem all the time? what happens if you restart mythbackend and try again... |
| [02:32:10] | KWisher: | on the tuner that i only use for livetv all priorities are set to zero |
| [02:32:16] | skd5aner: | KWisher: and, do you have any slave backends? |
| [02:32:37] | KWisher: | i can only get rid of the error by restarting the backend |
| [02:32:43] | skd5aner: | I occassionally get the same error message when mythbackend is messed up |
| [02:32:53] | skd5aner: | even though, clearly, all my tuners aren't busy |
| [02:33:13] | KWisher: | yes, one slave b |
| [02:33:14] | skd5aner: | and, ironically enough, I have a similiar mix of essentially the same tuners |
| [02:33:30] | Korny: | I have the same tuners other then the dvb's but only 1 backend |
| [02:33:53] | skd5aner: | KWisher: whatever the issue is, I've seen the exact same thing... no clue why though... happens sporadically |
| [02:34:30] | KWisher: | i'm about to wipe the system and go back to .26 |
| [02:34:41] | skd5aner: | lol... |
| [02:34:47] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs |
| [02:34:55] | wagnerrp: | or let us check them |
| [02:34:59] | KWisher: | wagnerrp: no errors |
| [02:35:06] | wagnerrp: | let us look |
| [02:35:12] | skd5aner: | KWisher: are you my doppleganger? because you and I are basically in the same boat |
| [02:35:18] | wagnerrp: | specifically, the first half minute after startup |
| [02:35:56] | skd5aner: | KWisher: and there are known issues with slave backends in 0.27 |
| [02:36:00] | KWisher: | only thing showing is : Jan 10 21:35:36 dvr mythbackend: mythbackend[12184]: E Expire programinfo.cpp:2358 (GetPlaybackURL) ProgramInfo(2081_20121204010000.mpg): GetPlaybackURL: '2081_20121204010000.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found. |
| [02:36:16] | skd5aner: | that just means there's a recording that's been orphaned |
| [02:36:31] | KWisher: | see a lot of these but nothing specific to my error |
| [02:36:35] | skd5aner: | it was trying to expire the file associated with it and couldn't find it |
| [02:37:00] | wagnerrp: | i would like to see logs from backend startup |
| [02:37:13] | Korny: | isn't there command to run to delete orphaned files? there used to be |
| [02:37:19] | KWisher: | ok, hold on |
| [02:37:28] | skd5aner: | Korny: there's a script... |
| [02:37:34] | wagnerrp: | you can select them in the frontend, and tell mythtv to force their deletion |
| [02:37:46] | skd5aner: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Find_orphans.py |
| [02:37:54] | wagnerrp: | which means, delete their metadata even though you can't find a file, and risk orphaning the file when it shows up again |
| [02:38:14] | Korny: | Is there a way in mythfrontend todelete an folder of recordings? |
| [02:38:34] | wagnerrp: | well all recordings are in the same folder |
| [02:38:44] | wagnerrp: | but you can add several to a playlist, and delete the playlist |
| [02:38:56] | Korny: | Can will that physically delete teh file? |
| [02:39:26] | skd5aner: | KWisher: how reproducable is the error for you? I find that particular one to be harder to trigger, and seems to be a symptom of greater instability in the backend... if you restart the backend, how long before it creeps up again? |
| [02:39:26] | wagnerrp: | not immediately. it will mark it for deletion, and it will be deleted when the backend gets around to it |
| [02:40:12] | skd5aner: | Korny: as wagnerrp said, it'll be moved in to the "Deleted" record group first |
| [02:41:38] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: why don't you make a quick trip down the road and troubleshoot my persistant mythtv issues for me... I'll throw in pizza and beer |
| [02:42:00] | Korny: | SO I'm in the watch recordings screen |
| [02:43:16] | wagnerrp: | i'll actually be driving through that way in late april |
| [02:43:55] | Korny: | Do I do "add this group to playlist" when hovering over show name? |
| [02:43:57] | skd5aner: | haha – well, it's been driving me insane for the last 3 months, what's another 3? |
| [02:44:13] | wagnerrp: | well, maybe about 30mi past that way |
| [02:44:18] | wagnerrp: | over in greencastle |
| [02:44:33] | skd5aner: | yea... not quite far enough, but close |
| [02:44:48] | wagnerrp: | i thought you were in indy |
| [02:45:07] | skd5aner: | oh, sorry, I read "Greenfield" haha |
| [02:46:26] | skd5aner: | Greenfield is about 30 mins east of Indy, and Greencastle is out in the boonies about 45 mins west of Indy |
| [02:46:50] | skd5aner: | and then Greenwood is 10 mins south of Indy |
| [02:47:03] | skd5aner: | because... no other colors could be used to name cities |
| [02:47:33] | wagnerrp: | well there's a brownsburg |
| [02:47:38] | KWisher: | wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/KmDRJDht |
| [02:47:57] | skd5aner: | and whitestown, and whiteland, etc and so on... |
| [02:48:02] | KWisher: | i went back to 9 pm est and i seen the error twice |
| [02:48:58] | wagnerrp: | that's a lot of autoexpiration |
| [02:49:02] | wagnerrp: | looks like something is going nuts |
| [02:49:40] | KWisher: | wagnerrp: might as well come to the kokomo area and fix my problem also :) |
| [02:49:53] | wagnerrp: | are you sure your recording disk is actually mounted, and you're not trying to record to the root partition? |
| [02:50:12] | KWisher: | yes |
| [02:50:14] | wagnerrp: | that's the only reason i can think of for mythtv trying to delete your entire video library |
| [02:50:29] | wagnerrp: | it's looking at the wrong filesystem, and finding a desperate lack of storage space |
| [02:51:29] | skd5aner: | Kwisher: I asked some questions while you were getting the logs, if you can look back an respond I'd be curious... thanks |
| [02:51:35] | wagnerrp: | have the logs from the first minute after you started the backend been rolled out of the file? |
| [02:52:22] | skd5aner: | Kwisher: ah yea, I sent you PM the other day... haha, you're not "too" far from me |
| [02:52:23] | KWisher: | not sure, i've restarted it twice in the last hour |
| [02:52:32] | Korny: | So how would I go about deleteing 130 episodes of the TNG lol :/ |
| [02:52:39] | wagnerrp: | there's nothing before 9PM |
| [02:53:46] | KWisher: | yeah, i only went back to 9 pm |
| [02:54:10] | KWisher: | i know there's at least one rerstart in there |
| [02:54:18] | skd5aner: | a restart would create a new file |
| [02:54:44] | wagnerrp: | ah, there is |
| [02:54:47] | wagnerrp: | about 40% down |
| [02:55:33] | skd5aner: | kisak: so, are you saying that your issue of "all tuners busy" is very easy to reproduce? |
| [02:55:43] | skd5aner: | oops, I mean Kwisher |
| [02:55:47] | skd5aner: | sorry kisak |
| [02:55:52] | KWisher: | here's my recording drive mount from mount -l : /dev/sda4 on /media/mythtv type ext4 (rw) |
| [02:55:59] | kisak: | it's all good |
| [02:56:00] | Korny: | nm I got it lol |
| [02:56:07] | wagnerrp: | the HDHR and two DVB cards are on antenna? |
| [02:56:26] | KWisher: | yes, connected to slave b/e |
| [02:56:53] | wagnerrp: | this may be an issue... Listings source 'OTA-1' is defined, but is not attached to a card input. |
| [02:58:11] | Korny: | Whats the point of slave backends anymore, especially with hd homeruns? Having enough cpu for comflagging? I'm just curious is all |
| [02:58:33] | wagnerrp: | if all you're doing is commflagging, use mythjobqueue |
| [02:58:50] | kisak: | Korny: go to the playback menu, have TNG selected on the left side and hit '/'to add all the episodes to select the episodes, you can then do actions to all the selected items with the context menu (right twice to see it) |
| [02:59:21] | Korny: | kisak: yeah I figured it out, thanks though |
| [02:59:26] | kisak: | great ... I just stuttered in irc |
| [02:59:44] | kisak: | my brain must have skipped a beat |
| [03:00:34] | KWisher: | i think it's getting ready to do it again, f/e becomes real sluggish |
| [03:01:08] | skd5aner: | Kwisher: so... sorry to keep asking, but I'm not sure I saw an answer... how reprocable is this? I ask, because I see the same symptoms on random occasions, but you made it sound like this has persisted across mutliple mythbackend restarts?? |
| [03:02:03] | skd5aner: | KWisher: the watch recording list is slow? is your masterbackend on a different machine than your frontend? Also... what does top or htop show for mythbackend and mysql on your backend during the sluggishness? |
| [03:02:21] | Korny: | So will the backend eventually delete the 1 tb of tv shows I just got rid of or will it wait until it needs space? |
| [03:02:24] | KWisher: | very reproducable, seems to happen around 15 to 30 mins after a b/e restart |
| [03:02:49] | kisak: | Korny: within half an hour |
| [03:02:54] | KWisher: | yep, just happened again |
| [03:03:05] | skd5aner: | KWisher: hmmmm, that's bad for you... but very intriguing for me... I have a feeling that it's directly related to what I see, only mine is not that reproducable, happens maybe 1–8 times a week |
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| [03:03:49] | KWisher: | i bet i can't import my .27 db into .26 ?? |
| [03:03:54] | skd5aner: | Kwisher: when the slugishness happens, do you see MythContext pop up any message on your frontend, such as the backend disconnecting and connecting |
| [03:03:56] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [03:04:06] | skd5aner: | KWisher: nope, only restore from backup |
| [03:04:31] | KWisher: | skd5aner: yes |
| [03:04:52] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: he's essentially seeing the same major issues I'm seeing |
| [03:04:56] | KWisher: | skd5aner: what type of backup? |
| [03:05:25] | wagnerrp: | the one made automatically when you upgraded to 0.27 |
| [03:05:29] | skd5aner: | when you upgrade, myth will attempt to create a backup for you |
| [03:05:38] | skd5aner: | of your mysql db |
| [03:05:46] | KWisher: | ahhh, ok |
| [03:06:14] | KWisher: | and where can i find that backup? |
| [03:06:38] | skd5aner: | KWisher: fyi, #11929 look familiar? :) |
| [03:06:38] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11929 ** | |
| [03:06:54] | skd5aner: | also, might want to look at #11927, it's probably directly related |
| [03:06:54] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11927 ** | |
| [03:07:33] | skd5aner: | could be different, but the symptoms are the same |
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| [03:08:35] | KWisher: | skd5aner: yep |
| [03:09:34] | Hydr0p0nX: | in my case, video out plays the audio |
| [03:09:44] | KWisher: | where do i find my .26 backup db? |
| [03:10:10] | skd5aner: | Kwisher: in your storage group with the most available space |
| [03:10:13] | wagnerrp: | out plays... plays faster than? |
| [03:10:23] | KWisher: | also, mythweb is unresponsive |
| [03:10:48] | skd5aner: | Kwisher: what does "top" say right now for mythbackend |
| [03:10:53] | skd5aner: | how much CPU and RAM used |
| [03:10:54] | wagnerrp: | if mainserver in the master backend deadlocks, when is what skd5aner is seeing, all mythtv components will become unresponsive |
| [03:11:01] | Hydr0p0nX: | yes |
| [03:11:06] | skd5aner: | Kwisher: and also, out of curiousity, for mysql |
| [03:11:30] | Hydr0p0nX: | may have that backward, let me pull the log again |
| [03:11:40] | Hydr0p0nX: | one is faster than the other though |
| [03:12:00] | skd5aner: | Hydr0p0nX: what distro? |
| [03:12:05] | Hydr0p0nX: | fedora 20 |
| [03:12:18] | Hydr0p0nX: | w/ 0.27 and nouveau driver |
| [03:12:19] | skd5aner: | Hydr0p0nX: someone else complained about that recently, and I think it was on one of the red hat variants |
| [03:12:42] | skd5aner: | and... I assume nothing will work correctly when nouveau is involved |
| [03:12:53] | skd5aner: | (for mythtv purporse, at least) |
| [03:12:56] | Hydr0p0nX: | i actually have acceleration working |
| [03:13:07] | KWisher: | .3% cpu 1.6% mem mythbackend |
| [03:13:35] | skd5aner: | k, that's low... |
| [03:14:00] | KWisher: | .3 & 3.1 for mysql |
| [03:14:03] | skd5aner: | Sometimes, I'll get high CPU on mythbackend and/or mysqld when I see the symptoms as well |
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| [03:15:57] | KWisher: | i've been wanting to get off xubuntu anyways :( |
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| [03:18:26] | Hydr0p0nX: | know if there's a way to force a particular /card/codec |
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| [03:19:18] | KWisher: | skd5aner: my largest storage group is my recordings folder and i don't see a db file in there |
| [03:19:42] | wagnerrp: | if you have a dedicated DBBackup group, it will be in there |
| [03:19:45] | skd5aner: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . hTV_Versions |
| [03:19:50] | wagnerrp: | it may be in the home directory |
| [03:19:57] | skd5aner: | or in /tmp even |
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| [03:20:28] | skd5aner: | Kwisher: and it's not your "largest" storage group – it's the one with the most available free space :) |
| [03:21:06] | skd5aner: | or, as wagnerrp said, if you went out of your way and manually set up a DBBackup SG, it would use that – but I assume 98% of people don't do that |
| [03:21:25] | wagnerrp: | mythbuntu may have done that automatically |
| [03:21:40] | KWisher: | skd5aner: i didn't |
| [03:21:46] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: does it? |
| [03:21:51] | wagnerrp: | no idea |
| [03:22:12] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: who's on first? |
| [03:22:22] | wagnerrp: | bob? |
| [03:22:34] | skd5aner: | f'ing bob |
| [03:22:55] | KWisher: | what's the file extension, *.sql ? |
| [03:23:06] | wagnerrp: | probably .gz or .bz2 |
| [03:23:12] | skd5aner: | !seen Beirdo |
| [03:23:12] | MythLogBot: | Beirdo is here and has been idle for 3 days 9 hours 54 minutes 35 seconds |
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| [03:24:36] | skd5aner: | Kwisher: have you rebooted since upgrading? |
| [03:25:26] | skd5aner: | alright – I need to call it a night |
| [03:25:46] | skd5aner: | I'm battling the flu, and it's winning right now |
| [03:25:49] | skd5aner: | later |
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| [03:26:00] | KWisher: | skd5aner: thx for the help |
| [03:26:11] | skd5aner: | KWisher: good luck! |
| [03:26:23] | KWisher: | nuke and pave baby |
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| [03:38:01] | KWisher: | found the db backups at /var/lib/mythtv/db_backups |
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| [03:50:36] | Hydr0p0nX: | wagnerrp, the error I'm getting is basically Player(0): Video is 30 frames ahead of audio, doubling video frame interval to slow down. |
| [03:51:06] | Hydr0p0nX: | could be 3 or 47 seconds |
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| [05:03:13] | kusznir: | Hi all: I've got some questions about vdpau and transcoding (no, not trancoding using vdpau). Here goes: |
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| [05:04:27] | kusznir: | I have a recording I wanted to 'archive' by removing all the commertials and such. I made a cutlist, then set to transcode "high quality", as I thought that was the way to do mpeg2->mpeg2 (with commertials cut). Unfortunately, I ended up with a .nuv (it was a mpeg2 from US OTA (HD HomeRun). As best as I can tell, the underlying format is mpeg4 (although I'm still not 100% sure) |
| [05:05:10] | wagnerrp: | if you want to perform a lossless cut, there's an option you must set in the transcoding profile options |
| [05:05:11] | kusznir: | My hardware is an Nvida ION ITX system with an Atom 230 @ 1.6Ghz (singe core, hypertrheaded) |
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| [05:05:54] | kusznir: | When I went to play back the file, I ended up unable to do so (massive stuttering). Logging in and watching top, I see a 100% cpu load. MPEG2 file played with about 12% cpu load. |
| [05:06:24] | kusznir: | I tried to create a transcode profile to move it back to mpeg2, but my only video codec options are RTJPG and MPEG4. |
| [05:06:49] | wagnerrp: | mythtv can only internally transcode to MPEG4 ASP, and RTJPEG |
| [05:06:59] | kusznir: | I'm also confused, as my research indicates VDPAU should be able to handle MPEG4 (and many common sub-varieties), yet as far as I can tell, it isn't. |
| [05:07:06] | wagnerrp: | when you're doing a lossless cut, you're technically not transcoding to mpeg2 |
| [05:07:19] | wagnerrp: | you're just leaving it as mpeg2, and cleaning up a handful of frames around the cuts |
| [05:07:40] | wagnerrp: | VDPAU can handle both MPEG4 AVC and MPEG4 ASP |
| [05:07:44] | kusznir: | So if I go to my video profiles option in myth settings, trancoders section, and create a new one called "lossless" and check the box "lossless", then it should just cut? |
| [05:07:48] | wagnerrp: | but you have an older blend of it that does not support ASP |
| [05:07:57] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [05:08:15] | kusznir: | What would I get as an output file if I hit either "high quality" or "Auto Detect" with the default transcoder settings in myth? |
| [05:08:30] | wagnerrp: | probably mpeg4 asp |
| [05:08:43] | wagnerrp: | i do not believe any of the default transcoding profiles are configured to operate losslessly |
| [05:09:01] | kusznir: | No, they were not unfortunately :( |
| [05:09:34] | kusznir: | I have successfully played back some video files I created on other computers with handbrake that are labeled as ".mkv". I take it those are AVC? |
| [05:09:49] | wagnerrp: | no clue |
| [05:09:53] | wagnerrp: | mkv is a container format |
| [05:09:55] | wagnerrp: | like avi |
| [05:10:11] | kusznir: | (or is there a command line command I can run to tell me what the actual video formats/codecs used in a file? |
| [05:10:13] | wagnerrp: | mpeg2 and mpeg4 also define container formats, in addition to one or more video formats |
| [05:10:33] | wagnerrp: | mythffmpeg -i filename |
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| [05:10:43] | wagnerrp: | mpeginfo is better if you've got that installed |
| [05:11:00] | wagnerrp: | not mpeginfo... videoinfo |
| [05:11:08] | wagnerrp: | mediainfo |
| [05:11:10] | wagnerrp: | that's the one |
| [05:12:36] | kusznir: | Don't appear to have mediainfo installed (using LinHES distro). I ran the mythffmpeg -i and I'm not seeing how to extract the critical info. I think its in this line: Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 1920x1088, PAR 136:135 DAR 16:9, 29.97 tbr, 1k tbn, 1k tbc |
| [05:12:36] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/0 ** | |
| [05:13:08] | wagnerrp: | probably mpeg4 avc, also known as h264 |
| [05:13:42] | wagnerrp: | h264 is playable by the hardware decoders on your ION |
| [05:13:48] | kusznir: | Is there a command line transcode that I can use to minimize loss and convert it into something my myth (vdpau) can play? |
| [05:14:27] | wagnerrp: | ffmpeg/mythffmpeg is a command line transcoder, but it's a bit clumsy to use |
| [05:14:28] | kusznir: | BTW: I also tried to play this file using mplayer (on the myth hardware), and got a big fat warning that my hardware was too slow to play this video file. It did list "vdpau" as the output device, but still pegged the CPU and the video frames got WAY behind the audio. |
| [05:14:44] | wagnerrp: | VDPAU is both an output device and a video decoder |
| [05:14:56] | wagnerrp: | you can use VDPAU the output device without using VDPAU the decoder |
| [05:15:08] | kusznir: | I've had very little success figuring out the magic command line options for ffmpeg to do useful transcoding. |
| [05:15:10] | kusznir: | Ok. |
| [05:15:38] | wagnerrp: | Video Decode and Presentation API for UNIX |
| [05:15:49] | kusznir: | Myth is configured as vdpau as the only output device (for some reason, I have two stages, first is >720 pixels, use vdpau, the second is all use vdpau, the settings appear pretty much the same. |
| [05:15:59] | wagnerrp: | basically, it was using VDPAU as an alternative to opengl or xv |
| [05:16:12] | kusznir: | Myth plays back every file on it I have, except this one, which myth created through a transcode. |
| [05:16:15] | wagnerrp: | the difference is the deinterlacing filters |
| [05:16:42] | wagnerrp: | the decoding is performed through an ASIC on the chip, but the deinterlacing is performed by the graphics shaders |
| [05:16:56] | wagnerrp: | it's a weak graphics chip, so it has weak shaders |
| [05:17:06] | wagnerrp: | at higher resolutions, you have to use a less intensive filter |
| [05:17:33] | kusznir: | Which filter should I be using? I looked through the list, but it wasn't clear to me which were more or less intensive. |
| [05:17:52] | wagnerrp: | either VDPAU Lite or VDPAU Normal |
| [05:18:26] | kusznir: | Oh, I think I was looking at the deinterlacer. |
| [05:18:51] | wagnerrp: | those profiles are different only in their selection of deinterlacer |
| [05:21:13] | kusznir: | Ok, I got mediainfo installed on another machine and ran it on the roughly 1/2 of the file that has copied over. It says under Format settings, Matrix that it is Default (H.263) and format is listed as MPEG-4 Visual |
| [05:24:00] | kusznir: | Thanks for all the help. Would you happen to know of the magic incantation for mythffmpeg to convert that file to something playable by my hardware? |
| [05:24:16] | wagnerrp: | not off hand. you'll probably find an easier time with handbrake |
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| [07:03:42] | kusznir: | wagnerrp: I've been trying to reencode it with HandBreak, but it appears its mis-reading the file and framerate or size or something. The program is 2hrs long, and its currently ecnoding at 8.4fps, and it claims that it will take 2625hours to finish the encoding. |
| [07:04:33] | kusznir: | I tried again with default settings a while ago (let it go for an hour or so), and it created 800Mb file (source is about 8GB), and it claimed at was 0.02% through the file. The 800MB file didn't play at all. |
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| [13:15:15] | dashs: | Morning -- |
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| [13:37:30] | dashs: | The Ringbuf messages (waited 0.2 seconds for data) — only for live tv are they underruns or slow disk on the BE? |
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| [17:20:02] | isaaclw: | Does anyone have any personal solutions they use for TV shows that use dates instead of episode numbers? those show up in the videos section in my installation. |
| [17:20:24] | isaaclw: | The only solution I can find is to "generate" an episode number. |
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| [18:13:25] | skd5aner: | yay, table crash! |
| [18:14:04] | tonsofpcs: | not sure what you mean, isaaclw |
| [18:14:50] | tonsofpcs: | the closest things we have here that I'm aware of is the nightly news programs that often show as a repeat of the same episode every night since the 1970s |
| [18:15:07] | tonsofpcs: | but they're never repeats so if you want to record them all, you just tell it to record them all |
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| [18:24:14] | wagnerrp: | tonsofpcs: he wants to record them all, and then archive them to mythvideo |
| [18:37:46] | Hydr0p0nX: | any idea on what to do for AOBase: audio waiting for buffer to fill: have 1920 want 9600 ? |
| [18:38:25] | Hydr0p0nX: | turned up logging on the frontend to try to figure out why frames were droppping and that message keeps looping |
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| [20:28:34] | dashs: | Smallest practical livetv area? |
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| [20:30:17] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [20:30:24] | wagnerrp: | like, storage space? |
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| [20:34:46] | dashs: | yes, like GBs |
| [20:35:19] | wagnerrp: | what's the longest show you're likely to watch live, like some sporting event? |
| [20:35:24] | isaaclw: | tonsofpcs: sometimes I'll download a twitch stream, or a youtube video of an event that happened on a specific day. It's not a Movie, so I don't want it on the movies section, cluttering them up, and it doesn't have a season/episode number so it gets messy if it's in the tv section. Is there any way I can group these other clips by month or something? |
| [20:36:01] | dashs: | wagnerrp: mebbe 32 gb |
| [20:36:13] | wagnerrp: | double that |
| [20:36:25] | dashs: | thanks |
| [20:36:33] | wagnerrp: | why ask? |
| [20:37:16] | dashs: | This is only for the (very occasional) live tv surfing episode. |
| [20:37:35] | wagnerrp: | right. why not just let it fall in the standard recording directory? |
| [20:39:40] | dashs: | I'm getting lots of Ringbuf (waited xx for data ) messages mostly on livetv, wanted to see what would happen if it were on a fast filesys |
| [20:39:50] | wagnerrp: | pause for a second, and then resume |
| [20:40:09] | dashs: | Some kind of syncing jive? |
| [20:40:33] | wagnerrp: | just livetv getting too close to live |
| [20:40:54] | wagnerrp: | and the buffering logic not being sufficiently fine grained to allow it |
| [20:41:48] | dashs: | It will creep back up again (manual commercial skip, etc ) |
| [20:43:47] | dashs: | Thanks, gotta split. |
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| [20:44:02] | skd5aner: | oh, he's gone |
| [20:44:17] | skd5aner: | was going to say... it's one of the realities of Live TV... |
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| [21:05:22] | skd5aner: | I am about to throw a brick at my TV... in 9 years, mythtv has never frustrated me so much |
| [21:05:52] | skd5aner: | mythbackend seems to loose it's mind when mythfilldatabase is running |
| [21:06:28] | skd5aner: | playback of recordings stopping ever 1–5 minutes X-( |
| [21:08:49] | [R]: | cpu load? |
| [21:09:01] | wagnerrp: | database load? |
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| [21:19:37] | skd5aner: | sorry guys, was doing a ton of things, killed off some stuff, wasn't looking at IRC |
| [21:19:53] | skd5aner: | i didn't see anything obviously pegged on the backend |
| [21:20:09] | skd5aner: | occasional spikes, and high CPU from mythcommflag, but that's normal |
| [21:22:11] | skd5aner: | interestingly enough, now I can't start mythbackend from upstart either... but it runs fine from the command line |
| [21:22:22] | skd5aner: | well, there it finally goes |
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| [21:30:19] | Kwisher-eee: | skd5aner: i'm rolling back to .26 now |
| [21:30:38] | skd5aner: | probably a good move |
| [21:31:16] | skd5aner: | I've been on 0.27 for too long to do that now... I originally had very few serious issues, but somehow they've almost multiplied since then |
| [21:31:21] | skd5aner: | I cna't really explain that |
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| [21:36:36] | Kwisher-eee: | hoping to have the main b/e up before the colts game |
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| [21:50:58] | Kwisher-eee: | i couldn't get .26 in xubuntu 13.10 so now i'm installing 13.04 |
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| [22:14:46] | lasers: | Hi. I'm using a DebianLiveCD and I'd like to test this card I got. I'm trying to set up OTA so I can watch something sometimes on the computer. This might not be a correct place since it had nothing to do with mythtv but it's the closest thing I know of... unless you want to tell me where I should look. |
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| [22:24:28] | Kwisher-eee: | lasers: try tvtime |
| [22:25:01] | lasers: | Kwisher-eee: I'm asking #videolan too. I might have analog PCI card... but that's for OTA though. I tried tvtime too. No source found. I couldn't change source. |
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| [22:30:20] | Kwisher-eee: | look at the mythtv wiki for supported hardware |
| [22:31:14] | wagnerrp: | specifically, look at the part that says look at the linuxtv wiki for supported hardware |
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| [22:40:25] | lasers: | I think my issue might be that I'm using LiveCD and some modules might not get loaded. I got WinTV-PVR-150 and it's SUPPORTED. |
| [22:45:36] | lasers: | Okay. I'm getting somewhere. I might need something from firmware-ivtv or firmware-linux-nonfree. :> |
| [22:46:15] | wagnerrp: | lasers: that's an analog card, and depending on where you are, they may be nothing to capture using it |
| [22:46:51] | lasers: | I receive about 15~ channels. |
| [22:47:14] | lasers: | PBS, ABCs, Foxs.. That sort of thing. |
| [22:48:36] | lasers: | Thank you for your concern. I think it'll work. I have to install it first and I can't reboot LiveCD. |
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| [23:42:50] | Kwisher-eee: | how do i stop the frontend from autostarting? |
| [23:44:11] | [R]: | mythtv doesnt come with any kind of autostart |
| [23:45:49] | Kwisher-eee: | when i kill it it starts again |
| [23:45:55] | Kwisher-eee: | from cli |
| [23:47:36] | Kwisher-eee: | new install of .26 and the backend setup just keeps looping |
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| [23:54:58] | Korny: | skill mythfrontend instead of mythfrontreal or whatever its called lol |
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| [23:58:34] | Kwisher-eee: | that was it, thx |
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