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| [00:26:31] | Hydr0p0nX: | apparently, I chose the worst supported method of hdmi audio available :) |
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| [00:46:48] | wagnerrp: | buu: why are you running the tagged release version? |
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| [00:48:32] | Hydr0p0nX: | wagnerrp, have any experience w/ audio out over hdmi ? nvidia .... |
| [00:48:49] | wagnerrp: | i have used it on several machines |
| [00:49:10] | wagnerrp: | ive had problems sending compressed audio, but LPCM always seems to work fine |
| [00:49:17] | Hydr0p0nX: | i can't seem to make it work on mythbuntu 12.04 |
| [00:49:33] | Hydr0p0nX: | everything else works great though |
| [00:50:32] | Hydr0p0nX: | I do think i'm closer than i have been though ... i at least see apps show up in the pulse mixer when it tries to play |
| [00:50:48] | wagnerrp: | error! tilt! |
| [00:51:06] | wagnerrp: | you are very very far away |
| [00:51:22] | Hydr0p0nX: | i didn't say i wasn't |
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| [00:51:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | just closer than i was yesterday |
| [00:51:30] | Hydr0p0nX: | lol |
| [00:51:33] | wagnerrp: | i mean, you're further away than when you started |
| [00:52:02] | wagnerrp: | when you started, you had a nice clean pulseaudio-free mythbuntu install |
| [00:52:07] | wagnerrp: | then you went and installed pulseaudio |
| [00:52:28] | Hydr0p0nX: | hmmm |
| [00:53:00] | Hydr0p0nX: | everything i read said pulse was default in ubunutu as far back as 11.x ? |
| [00:53:26] | wagnerrp: | yes, ubuntu... mythbuntu intentionally installs without it |
| [00:53:39] | wagnerrp: | if you're using the mythbuntu OS installer |
| [00:53:44] | Hydr0p0nX: | I am |
| [00:53:49] | wagnerrp: | and not just installing the mythbuntu mythtv packages on top of ubuntu |
| [00:57:40] | Hydr0p0nX: | so, *should* i be able to just remove pulse and it's associated packages? |
| [00:58:09] | Hydr0p0nX: | or have i likely gone to far and reloading os + restore db be faster / more reliable ? |
| [00:58:09] | wagnerrp: | pulse is just a sound server. it doesn't touch the hardware |
| [00:58:15] | wagnerrp: | it exists as a layer on top of alsa |
| [00:58:39] | wagnerrp: | you should be able to disable pulse, or even just allow mythtv to temporarily disable pulse when it is attempting to play audio |
| [00:59:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | ok |
| [00:59:36] | Hydr0p0nX: | alsamixer says everything is unmuted |
| [00:59:50] | wagnerrp: | alsamixer is meaningless if pulseaudio is still running |
| [01:00:05] | wagnerrp: | as it will intercept all calls intended for alsa, and route them through pulseaudio |
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| [01:01:46] | wagnerrp: | in other news, florida man arrested shortly after leaving his wallet at an armed robbery |
| [01:03:32] | Hydr0p0nX: | nice |
| [01:03:46] | Hydr0p0nX: | sounds like a slow day in florida |
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| [01:10:38] | Hydr0p0nX: | k |
| [01:10:54] | Hydr0p0nX: | i've removed pulse so that i can't accidentally do anything with it again |
| [01:12:07] | wagnerrp: | basically, pulse (and all sound servers) exist to intercept audio from applications and remix them before sending a single audio stream to the sound card |
| [01:12:35] | wagnerrp: | first, it's unnecessary since any halfway decent sound card can do the mixing in hardware, as can ALSA if need be |
| [01:12:53] | wagnerrp: | and second, if you remix audio, you _cannot_ use passthrough compressed digital audio |
| [01:13:13] | wagnerrp: | the 8200 only supports SPDIF levels of capability |
| [01:13:22] | wagnerrp: | meaning 2-channel LPCM, or 5.1 AC3 and DTS |
| [01:13:48] | devinheitmueller: | It continues to amaze me how bad PulseAudio and ALSA are. |
| [01:13:49] | wagnerrp: | it cannot send uncompressed multi-channel audio |
| [01:14:07] | devinheitmueller: | Sorry, didn't mean to troll. |
| [01:14:22] | wagnerrp: | oh no, we love pulseaudio bashing here |
| [01:14:23] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [01:14:38] | Hydr0p0nX: | that's fine wagnerrp, i'm just looking for 5.1 :) |
| [01:14:55] | devinheitmueller: | The one conversation I had with Laurent confirmed to me what everybody says about him. |
| [01:14:55] | Hydr0p0nX: | it worked when i had a seperate video card and was passing audio through it |
| [01:14:58] | wagnerrp: | i will warn you, i never successfully got 5.1 working on my 8200 board |
| [01:15:11] | Hydr0p0nX: | ok |
| [01:15:31] | wagnerrp: | but then i was streaming it to a tv for which there was no value sending it anything more than stereo |
| [01:15:42] | wagnerrp: | i never put much effort into getting bitstreaming to work |
| [01:15:54] | Hydr0p0nX: | if I can get anything working with it i'll be happy |
| [01:16:12] | wagnerrp: | stereo LPCM worked painlessly though |
| [01:19:41] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'd prefer it send audio over hdmi |
| [01:19:47] | Hydr0p0nX: | just to keep cable counts down |
| [01:20:01] | wagnerrp: | right, that's what mine is doing |
| [01:20:03] | Hydr0p0nX: | but, i don't care if it's stereo, surround, or other |
| [01:21:12] | Hydr0p0nX: | don't happen to have a write up i can reference do you ? :) |
| [01:21:49] | wagnerrp: | devinheitmueller: i think i'm going to take a shot at setting up a beaglebone as a slave backend for an HDPVR this holiday |
| [01:22:37] | devinheitmueller: | The USB on the Beaglebone shouldn't' be too bad, and the HDPVR delivers bulk. |
| [01:23:00] | wagnerrp: | i know you had mentioned wanting to write some bit of software to emulate an HDHR |
| [01:23:16] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, I've got code to do that. |
| [01:23:35] | devinheitmueller: | I've got a whole HDHR daemon that interfaces a variety of different devices, including DVB and V4L devices. |
| [01:24:01] | wagnerrp: | oh, i thought you were just musing on potential projects |
| [01:24:03] | devinheitmueller: | Haven't tried it on the Beagle though. |
| [01:24:12] | devinheitmueller: | No, I have a commercial interest in such a use case. |
| [01:24:35] | devinheitmueller: | (for a variety of reasons of which I won't go into on a public channel) |
| [01:24:40] | wagnerrp: | need a guinea pig? |
| [01:25:30] | devinheitmueller: | At this point probably not. I'm confident I can make it work on the BeagleBone in a couple of hours, but the hardware has been on backorder for the last few weeks. |
| [01:26:04] | devinheitmueller: | Also, I'm actually pursuing devices much more interesting than the five year old HDPVR. :-) |
| [01:26:06] | wagnerrp: | ah |
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| [01:50:54] | wagnerrp: | i need to figure out how to cross-compile on gentoo, as i am _not_ going to compile anything on that beaglebone |
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| [02:20:41] | HaSH: | tgm4883 Its a headless server so I used add-apt-repository to add the 0.27 ppa....I didnt get any errors installing it. What version do you guys support for 10.04? |
| [02:20:54] | HaSH: | (I've since used ppa-purge to remove) |
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| [02:21:48] | wagnerrp: | i don't think they support 10.04 at all |
| [02:22:42] | HaSH: | oh god. Have I been typing 10.04 this whole time? |
| [02:22:48] | HaSH: | 12.04! |
| [02:22:49] | HaSH: | lol |
| [02:23:07] | wagnerrp: | 0.25 is default, 0.27 is supported |
| [02:23:11] | HaSH: | Wow. My brain is mush |
| [02:23:16] | wagnerrp: | they should have developmental builds as well |
| [02:23:31] | HaSH: | I see. Thanks wagnerrp. I was having issues getting it to work lastnight... |
| [02:23:40] | HaSH: | mythtv kept crashing |
| [02:25:05] | DavidBrooke: | I made an iso of my current installation that includes a mythtv frontend....I installed it on another computer...setup the host and config.xml in ~/.mythtv....when I start the frontend I get the setup for the language and backend ip address/mysql info...It is correct and the setup repeats....any ideas what else I need to change? |
| [02:25:54] | wagnerrp: | the only configuration stored on disk are the credentials on how to access the database |
| [02:26:24] | wagnerrp: | that dialog comes up if you cannot access the database, and retrieve the selected language |
| [02:26:41] | wagnerrp: | my guess, you've not granted permission to the database for the new host |
| [02:26:52] | wagnerrp: | and did not use a wild card when initially granting remote permissions to it |
| [02:27:23] | DavidBrooke: | I've not done anything as far as permissions |
| [02:27:39] | wagnerrp: | you had to in order to get the first remote frontend up |
| [02:27:44] | wagnerrp: | or else something else did it for you |
| [02:29:18] | DavidBrooke: | something must have done it... |
| [02:29:31] | DavidBrooke: | this is a debian install |
| [02:31:40] | skd5aner: | devinheitmueller: sooo.... when/if you are able to share more publically about your little HDHR emulator project, let us know... interestingly enough, we had talked with the silicondust guys a couple months back asking for such a device ;) |
| [02:34:19] | skd5aner: | devinheitmueller: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2013-11-13 . Around 03:48... |
| [02:52:08] | DavidBrooke: | in looking at the config.xml...what is the MediaRenderer? |
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| [02:53:36] | Hydr0p0nX: | http://pastebin.com/arbiZBrF anyone see what's causing audio out to fail ? |
| [02:53:36] | wagnerrp: | it's a unique identifier needed for UPNP |
| [02:54:02] | DavidBrooke: | so no real issue then for my situation |
| [02:54:14] | Hydr0p0nX: | gotta take the dog out, brb |
| [02:55:14] | DavidBrooke: | wagnerrp: think it would reasonable to un-install frontend and re-install? |
| [02:55:26] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [02:55:46] | wagnerrp: | try connecting to the database manually from the terminal |
| [02:55:58] | wagnerrp: | mysql -uuser -ppassword -hhost |
| [02:56:10] | DavidBrooke: | k |
| [02:56:11] | wagnerrp: | pull that information out of the config.xml |
| [02:57:12] | HaSH: | Hmm. When I start a remote frontend and connect to the mythback end its showing: http://i.imgur.com/JcslQN1.png |
| [02:58:15] | HaSH: | From that vm(Running windows on my host...wanted as imple way to do ssh X forwarding) I run mythfrontend which connects to a remote backend that I setup by ssh'ing from that vm to the remote backend and running mythtv-setup |
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| [03:05:39] | DavidBrooke: | si this the correct format... mysql mythtv 25aD7ALd 192.168.1.1? |
| [03:06:44] | DavidBrooke: | wagnerrp: |
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| [03:07:07] | Hydr0p0nX: | mysql -u mythtv -p -h 192.168.1.1 |
| [03:07:13] | Hydr0p0nX: | you'll be prompted for the password |
| [03:10:29] | DavidBrooke: | Hydr0p0nX: ty |
| [03:10:54] | DavidBrooke: | that got me to the mysql prompt |
| [03:11:08] | DavidBrooke: | is that good? |
| [03:11:41] | Hydr0p0nX: | yes |
| [03:11:58] | Hydr0p0nX: | are you doing that from the remote machine that's having a problem ? |
| [03:13:19] | DavidBrooke: | same machine |
| [03:14:51] | wagnerrp: | in the prompt, type 'show databases;' |
| [03:17:46] | DavidBrooke: | wagnerrp: has 3....information schema, mythconvergence and test |
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| [03:18:36] | DavidBrooke: | ny typing is bad ...mythconverg |
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| [03:47:22] | wagnerrp: | well that's annoying |
| [03:47:47] | DavidBrooke: | I used refracta to make the iso |
| [03:47:59] | wagnerrp: | an aerial view of the city, with downtempo trumpets |
| [03:48:15] | wagnerrp: | the slightest nod to blade runner, just enough to make you wish they did it more often |
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| [06:02:10] | RavenII: | So, I finally have Myth up and running...however, when it comes to MythWeb...I can't access it unless I manually add mythweb.php in the url... |
| [06:02:14] | RavenII: | for example... |
| [06:02:41] | RavenII: | going to http://192.168.0.19/Myth/ gets me "The requested URL /MythWeb/mythweb.php was not found on this server." |
| [06:03:00] | RavenII: | but if I go to http://192.168.0.19/Myth/mythweb.php manually, it works fine. |
| [06:03:07] | RavenII: | Anyone have any input on that? |
| [06:03:20] | wagnerrp: | sounds like your rewrite rules in apache are not configured properly |
| [06:03:40] | RavenII: | Ok, is that the....hang on... let me take a look. |
| [06:03:43] | wagnerrp: | oh... did you actually put the application in /Myth/ ? |
| [06:03:46] | wagnerrp: | not /Mythweb/ |
| [06:04:19] | wagnerrp: | if so, you will have to adjust mythweb.conf for the new root location |
| [06:05:07] | RavenII: | Oh sorry, that's the alias. |
| [06:05:18] | RavenII: | It actually is in MythWeb |
| [06:06:03] | RavenII: | I don't know if it matters, but this is on a Mavericks Server... |
| [06:06:11] | wagnerrp: | no idea what that is |
| [06:06:17] | RavenII: | Mac OSX |
| [06:06:36] | wagnerrp: | all bets are off when not running gnu/linux |
| [06:06:47] | RavenII: | :-) Kinda figured. |
| [06:07:35] | RavenII: | So when you say rewrite in Apache...you mean the httpd.conf? |
| [06:07:55] | wagnerrp: | i mean the rewrite engine |
| [06:08:18] | RavenII: | That's configured in the mythweb.conf file |
| [06:08:21] | RavenII: | gotcha. |
| [06:08:34] | wagnerrp: | specifically, it's a module for apache that is configured in mythweb.conf (included by httpd.conf) to redirect everything in /Mythweb/ and below to that mythweb.php |
| [06:08:44] | RavenII: | I kinda had a feeling that was it. |
| [06:08:48] | wagnerrp: | (and certain things to mythweb.pl) |
| [06:08:51] | RavenII: | I'll mess with it a bit more. |
| [06:09:48] | wagnerrp: | basically, if you're having to manually point things at mythweb.php yourself, it means the rewrite engine is not working properly |
| [06:10:45] | RavenII: | Gotcha |
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| [07:07:29] | wagnerrp: | well this is amusing |
| [07:07:50] | wagnerrp: | i buy a copy of DayZ upon urging from a friend |
| [07:08:07] | wagnerrp: | if i try to connect to a server, it locks up my modem |
| [07:10:14] | ** wagnerrp fantasizes about bringing his Westel POS to his ISPs office, and burning it in front of a CSR ** | |
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| [08:42:06] | wizbit: | what does mythtv need from a user point of view? more work on themes and smooth gliding menu scrollers :-) |
| [08:42:26] | ** wizbit awaits a contribute yourself comment ** | |
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| [09:59:52] | stuartm: | wagnerrp: well to be fair, DayZ hasn't been released yet, it's still in Beta for another year |
| [10:00:10] | stuartm: | a very long, drawn out beta program |
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| [10:01:47] | sid3windr: | err |
| [10:01:55] | sid3windr: | that really wasnt the point |
| [10:02:11] | sid3windr: | unless you feel it's ok for modems to crash :) |
| [10:02:21] | stuartm: | real shame that Bohemia are still resisting porting their games to linux, Operation Flashpoint marked a turning point in games for me and nothing has lived up to it since (I own AA + AA 2 plus all the expansions but I've never been able to play them because I don't own windows) |
| [10:03:10] | stuartm: | sid3windr: no, I know it's not exactly DayZ's fault that the modem crashes, just felt the need to stand up for the game/Bohemia anyway because I'm a huge fan of their work :) |
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| [15:09:36] | justinh: | hahaha just trying out the iplayer addon on a certain media centre. Quality of the stream is way better than BBC1 on freeview. So much better not having to do this in a web browser using Flash, too. I wish somebody would do this for mythtv, as naughty as it would allegedly be |
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| [15:38:15] | stuartm: | justinh: well we support iplayer natively via freesat mheg (and freeview, should iplayer ever come to freeview) |
| [15:38:42] | stuartm: | maybe not quite the same as doing it through mnv, but it is there |
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| [15:40:08] | stuartm: | justinh: better than BBC 1 SD, or BBC 1 HD? I'd be surprised if the latter since the HD bitrate is much higher for broadcast (and the codecs are the same) |
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| [15:53:37] | justinh: | stuartm: BBC1 SD. Looks awful on my Dad's telly through his YouView box |
| [15:53:55] | justinh: | mind, the difference might just be the decoding on the Pi being better than the YV STB |
| [15:54:18] | justinh: | the Pi with XBMC is a much nicer user experience than YouView BTW.. not that it's hard to be |
| [15:54:28] | justinh: | even with all the crashes & reboots LOL |
| [15:55:01] | justinh: | wonder when the local opt-outs are going to go HD. I think they should've sorted that out before splurging on another mux |
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| [15:56:02] | justinh: | also, when HD is available it should default so it replaces the SD channel – not the 'same channel but in HD' much lower down the EPG. It's silly |
| [15:57:15] | stuartm: | yeah, that's one thing that Sky get right, but Virgin, Freesat and Freeview don't (it's also something that MythTV should do for LiveTV) |
| [15:57:23] | justinh: | did anything ever come of those BBC guys trying to suggest ways to implement the 'trailer record' features of 'the green button' BTW? |
| [15:58:07] | justinh: | since I'm stuck up here at my parents' house while my house in Manchester is for sale I'm running out of things to do |
| [15:58:55] | justinh: | dunno if you ever caught me saying I'd left the job I hated – now working in Co. Durham – now I 'only' need to sell the house & move my family up here |
| [15:58:55] | stuartm: | dunno, haven't heard anything more about it – theoretically it should be easy, and maybe they have implemented it, I'll have to search around their site for possible specs |
| [15:59:36] | stuartm: | justinh: fair distance to move |
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| [15:59:58] | stuartm: | but worse to commute, so |
| [16:00:02] | justinh: | I've been hacking on an ecommerce platform for a friend of my sister inlaw which has kind of kept me occupied – but I've run out of improvements to make |
| [16:00:22] | stuartm: | what are you doing now? |
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| [16:00:41] | justinh: | working for a company in the oil & gas flow measurement game |
| [16:01:12] | stuartm: | so quite different to the last job then :) |
| [16:01:55] | stuartm: | well at least outwardly |
| [16:02:06] | justinh: | the CCTV outfit – too many people left & the atmosphere there wasn't getting any better. Add to that I'd been doing a load of testing on the chipset being used in the next gen of products – more suited to being in a set top box than an enterprise product. gigabit ethernet? ROFLMAO. Lucky if you could get 50Mbit/sec on more than 5 sockets in total |
| [16:02:39] | justinh: | so knowing the next gen was gonna be a lemon too was the extra push I needed to get out |
| [16:03:16] | justinh: | yeah oil & gas flow measurement is a much different industry, and for all its faults the new place is a much better place to work |
| [16:03:52] | justinh: | in the summer heatwave they did little things like bring in coolers full of soft drinks – and on the hottest days handed out free ice lollies |
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| [16:05:20] | justinh: | in short – they give a stuff about their employees :-) |
| [16:05:56] | stuartm: | justinh: yeah, it's amazing how far behind the current gen some electronics products are – a couple of weeks ago while redecorating I ripped out the old burglar alarm as it was crap and had never been used, briefly looked at a diy replacement only to find that that it's really no better than the rubbish I removed, 1980s gen electronics with no modern features, reckoned that I could do better myself with a couple of RPis |
| [16:06:26] | stuartm: | glad you're liking the new place better |
| [16:06:30] | justinh: | most even industrial panels are little more than a PIC micro |
| [16:07:14] | justinh: | heck, even the subsea flow meters are based on very basic micros.. tried & tested tech. It has to be – cos they get dunked onto the sea bed & have to operate for 15+ years non-stop |
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| [16:08:31] | justinh: | the thing I've been working with the most is essentially an RF spectrum analyser for determining the amount of water in a pipeline. Compared to anything else they've ever made, this is rocket science |
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| [16:09:13] | stuartm: | yeah, in such harsh environments using older trusted tech is understandable, charging a few hundred quid for something less sophisticated than the electronics I did in GCSE physics is not – some of these businesses deserve to go bust |
| [16:09:26] | justinh: | stuartm: it'd be hard for me to like it less than the last place. They ended up not replacing me – apparently nobody would come in at the wage they wanted to pay |
| [16:10:19] | justinh: | then again, they wanted: PHP, MySQL, Linux.. AND electronics |
| [16:10:31] | justinh: | they were never gonna get all that :-) |
| [16:10:31] | stuartm: | heh |
| [16:10:57] | justinh: | and now I'm on what I was before, before tax :-) |
| [16:11:33] | justinh: | er.. I mean my old pre-tax wage is what I get after tax & NI. |
| [16:11:48] | stuartm: | :) |
| [16:12:04] | justinh: | back to the I 'just' need to sell that blinking house. on the market 5+ months & only 2 viewings |
| [16:12:58] | stuartm: | well, if they are right about the market picking up things should get better |
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| [16:16:07] | stuartm: | in the early nineties my parent's had their house on the market for 3+ years, ended up having to go part exchange on a new build just to get rid of it – nothing wrong with it either, only a few years old, well maintained, quite cul-de-sac in desirable area, but the housing market was completely dead |
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| [16:19:25] | justinh: | yeah we're trying to get a part-ex deal – but so many builders won't do outside of their catchment area |
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| [16:24:54] | haux76: | some one has successfully used mythtv with an IR blaster to change channels on vip2262 set tip box ? |
| [16:24:55] | haux76: | http://support.bell.ca/_web/guides/TV/UserGui . . . 2262(en).pdf |
| [16:25:13] | haux76: | I am trying to do this since weeks :-( .. no result |
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| [16:31:41] | justinh: | haux76: depends on your IR blaster. Is it actually transmitting – flashing its little IR LED? |
| [16:32:03] | justinh: | I fought my MCE USB IR USB thingies for *days* before giving up |
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| [16:34:33] | justinh: | stuartm: if we'd had lived in Didsbury or some similarly 'posh' part of the M postcode we'd have sold the house 100 times over by now |
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| [16:35:51] | stuartm: | the BBC effect? (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/12/20/google_bus_blockade/) |
| [16:36:07] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: to be fair, it doesn't matter how unstable a piece of software is, nothing it tries to throw across a network should be able to take down a modem |
| [16:36:15] | wagnerrp: | the modem is garbage |
| [16:36:38] | stuartm: | indeed |
| [16:36:46] | justinh: | stuartm: the 'luvvie' effect in general. Hipster-town |
| [16:37:33] | stuartm: | which reminds me, I need to somehow persuade my ISP to upgrade my modem while waiving the usual fee (because I object to paying it) |
| [16:39:25] | stuartm: | tired of paying the same amount as a new customer for 20/1, when they are getting 30/3 |
| [16:39:56] | haux76: | I am using the IR blaster within Hauppauge HDPVR |
| [16:40:37] | haux76: | I think it's transmitting since it's flashing when send a change channel command |
| [16:42:44] | devinheitmueller: | haux76: do yourself a favor and forget about the IR support on the HDPVR. Just spend $20 and buy an MCEUSB compatible remote/blaster. |
| [16:44:34] | haux76: | thanks devinheimuller. What brand do you suggest ? |
| [16:44:56] | devinheitmueller: | Any of the ones that say they are MCE compatible should be fine. |
| [16:45:14] | haux76: | my mythtv pc doesn't have a serial port, so a usb one is mandatory |
| [16:45:35] | devinheitmueller: | If it's MCE compatible, it will be USB. Nobody does serial port IR transmitters anymore. |
| [16:45:40] | wagnerrp: | i was under the impression many "mce compatible" units were simply HID keyboards |
| [16:45:43] | devinheitmueller: | (unless it's some home-brew thingie) |
| [16:46:24] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: Not really. They accept a raw IR waveform, and the driver does all the work. Under Linux there is driver code which treats it as a standerd "inputdev" device |
| [16:46:31] | justinh: | the HP MCE USB thing I have doesn't seem to modulate the IR carrier |
| [16:46:37] | devinheitmueller: | And of course HID keyboards have no concept of IR *blasting*. |
| [16:46:58] | justinh: | it uses one of those CIR USB chips – so *should* be okay |
| [16:47:01] | wagnerrp: | ah... well there are some that don't come with a blaster |
| [16:47:26] | justinh: | it has two blaster ports, and I've confirmed the port is driven – it's just not modulated |
| [16:47:31] | wagnerrp: | i missed that you specifically said to find one with a blaster |
| [16:47:38] | devinheitmueller: | justinh: to be fair, the hardware does do the demodulation, and returns a PWM pulse train. That's what gets converted to the specific IR format. |
| [16:47:56] | justinh: | i.e. it'd only flash in accordance with whatever the code is, not on top of a 38khz carrier |
| [16:48:21] | justinh: | the receiver portion works & can learn any IR code I've thrown at it |
| [16:48:37] | haux76: | When looking for mce usb I found www.mythtv.org/wiki/MCE_Remote They are remote control |
| [16:48:43] | haux76: | I need only a blaster |
| [16:49:00] | haux76: | ~IR transmitter |
| [16:49:14] | justinh: | dunno whether I've missed a driver module option or what. So I gave up & used a Pi for blasting with a homebrewed board tacked onto a couple of GPIO pins :-) |
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| [16:49:28] | wagnerrp: | right, it's cheaper to get an MCEUSB unit with a blaster than a dedicated blaster |
| [16:49:42] | devinheitmueller: | justinh: That's the real advantage of the MCE/CIR devices – they are much better at learning new codes because they don't try to interpret the pulse train in firmware. |
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| [16:50:14] | devinheitmueller: | For example, the ZIlog on the HDPVR essentially tries to do learning in firmware, which is why it fails with all the newer IR formats. |
| [16:50:56] | justinh: | devinheitmueller: yeah but the blasting part should be a doddle – or is it that you need to convert the lirc config data to a *modulated* raw form first? |
| [16:52:01] | justinh: | I know it worked btw, cos I tried it in Windows. It was a pain, but proved it could blast |
| [16:52:06] | devinheitmueller: | I don't recall the specifics of how the blasting works on MCE off the top of my head. For the Zilog, it's a completely proprietary and obfuscated serialization format for the waveform, which is why you cannot blast arbitrary waveforms with LIRC. |
| [16:52:34] | justinh: | yeah you basically tell it which code set, and the code |
| [16:52:35] | devinheitmueller: | (that's why you need the zilog "database", which is really just a recording of all the possible blobs) |
| [16:52:57] | justinh: | maybe there was a regression in the lirc code which has seen been fixed |
| [16:53:11] | wagnerrp: | does the whole unit run off a zilog chip, or is one dedicated to run IR? |
| [16:53:17] | devinheitmueller: | I decoded the format so that I could create arbitrary new entries and make it work with Pace DTAs, but it's never made it into any driver. |
| [16:53:23] | justinh: | the ones I bought from ebay have a fintek chip, FWIW |
| [16:54:11] | devinheitmueller: | The onboard Zilog is responsible for receiving, learning and blasting. The Linux driver manages communication with the chip and userland. |
| [16:54:48] | devinheitmueller: | It's got a trivial RC5 receiver, and everything else is done through the "learning" API and blasting of arbitrary blobs. |
| [16:55:24] | devinheitmueller: | It's likely that the specific set top box that haux76 has just isn't supported, either because it's too new (and the database hasn't been updated in years), or because it uses an IR format not supported by the firwmare. |
| [16:55:42] | haux76: | do you think this one can work as an IR blaster ? |
| [16:55:43] | haux76: | http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Wireless-Mouse-keyboar . . . a&_uhb=1 |
| [16:55:51] | justinh: | "Feature Integration Technology Inc. (Fintek) F71610A or F71612A Consumer Infrared Receiver/Transceiver" |
| [16:55:54] | haux76: | sorry for the dummy question |
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| [16:56:33] | wagnerrp: | that does not appear to be a blaster |
| [16:57:18] | wagnerrp: | the units that function as blasters have a pair of 1/8" jacks on the back, to which you can connect IR LEDs |
| [16:58:24] | haux76: | ok . I think the only one I know and for sure is a blaster is this one: |
| [16:58:28] | justinh: | the ones I've got have 2 jacks, and feature two receivers – one which can demodulate & one which can do raw IR reception from close up |
| [16:58:32] | haux76: | http://www.irblaster.info/usb_blaster.html |
| [16:59:04] | wagnerrp: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880101007 |
| [17:01:00] | haux76: | thanks wagnerrp I read "Be able to use transmitter jack to emit the signal to control set-top box" |
| [17:01:17] | haux76: | but.... where to plug the jack of the transmitter ? !!1 |
| [17:01:23] | haux76: | 8-) |
| [17:01:33] | wagnerrp: | on the back of the unit |
| [17:01:48] | haux76: | unit... you mean ? |
| [17:01:51] | haux76: | set top box |
| [17:02:02] | haux76: | ? |
| [17:02:03] | wagnerrp: | on the page, click the fourth image |
| [17:02:11] | wagnerrp: | there's a little box in the bottom right |
| [17:02:17] | wagnerrp: | that box is the IR receiver |
| [17:02:37] | wagnerrp: | and has a mini-usb jack in the back, as well as two 1/8" plugs for IR transmitters |
| [17:03:48] | wagnerrp: | if you click the ellipses and choose the 360 view, you can rotate around back to see what i'm describing |
| [17:04:43] | haux76: | ok |
| [17:04:44] | haux76: | lol |
| [17:05:08] | haux76: | I 've never remarqued the 360 view option |
| [17:05:16] | haux76: | wonderful |
| [17:05:37] | haux76: | Thanks wagnerrp |
| [17:05:37] | justinh: | dad's just yelling about XBMC again. trying to turn subtitles off.. they've got the subtitles menu option in the audio settings section. Hahahaha |
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| [17:18:29] | wagnerrp: | people are still using plextor units? |
| [17:19:01] | wagnerrp: | not only that, people are still working on the drivers? |
| [17:25:02] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: highly doubtfull. |
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| [17:30:51] | wagnerrp: | isn't the go7007 driver for the plextor units? |
| [17:31:15] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah. Is that driver getting some love? |
| [17:31:49] | devinheitmueller: | There was a leak fix a few days ago, which was found via an automated scan. |
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| [17:33:53] | sm_: | Hello, I have an problem with setting up the USB device for it. |
| [17:34:11] | sm_: | Bus 001 Device 006: ID 18b4:1001 e3C Technologies DUTV007 |
| [17:34:51] | devinheitmueller: | Does anything show up in the dmesg output when you plug in the device? |
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| [17:37:35] | sm_: | let me check. |
| [17:38:35] | devinheitmueller: | Oh wait, go7007 is a staging driver. You would need to compile your kernel with media staging drivers in order for that device to work. |
| [17:39:06] | wagnerrp: | what you posted from lsusb is just an enumeration of the bus, not an indication that anything in the kernel is actually using the device |
| [17:39:21] | wagnerrp: | dmesg will log what the kernel is actually doing |
| [17:39:34] | sm_: | Where to past it? Pastebin? |
| [17:39:40] | wagnerrp: | pastebin works |
| [17:39:53] | sm_: | http://pastebin.com/BP5tNJV1 |
| [17:40:47] | wagnerrp: | so you're missing a firmware |
| [17:41:07] | sm_: | Where to find it? |
| [17:41:58] | devinheitmueller: | Well, also that's not the pleator go7007 device. |
| [17:42:02] | devinheitmueller: | Google. |
| [17:42:09] | sm_: | http://pastebin.com/i2av4hSx |
| [17:42:22] | devinheitmueller: | https://github.com/OpenELEC/dvb-firmware/blob . . . usb-ec168.fw |
| [17:42:39] | sm_: | Where to put the fw file to? |
| [17:42:55] | devinheitmueller: | Varies by distro, but usually /lib/firmware |
| [17:43:05] | sm_: | I'm using Ubuntu Server |
| [17:43:16] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, then it's /lib/firmware. Then unplug/replug the device |
| [17:43:24] | sm_: | kk, wiil try. |
| [17:44:41] | sm_: | http://pastebin.com/PJ6RAVvQ |
| [17:45:33] | devinheitmueller: | Then either you loaded the wrong file or the driver is broken. |
| [17:45:58] | devinheitmueller: | (for example, saved the .fw file as HTML) |
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| [17:46:49] | sm_: | Oh, damn. |
| [17:46:54] | sm_: | It's in HTML. |
| [17:47:01] | devinheitmueller: | That would do it. :-) |
| [17:47:19] | devinheitmueller: | It's almost like I've done that before myself. :-) |
| [17:47:52] | devinheitmueller: | When you get the right file in place, you might want to reboot. It's possible the driver caches the already loaded firmware blob. |
| [17:49:41] | sm_: | http://pastebin.com/A7RCUVPX |
| [17:50:45] | devinheitmueller: | That looks better. |
| [17:50:59] | sm_: | Now my setup detects it! :) |
| [17:51:03] | sm_: | *MythTV |
| [17:55:45] | sm_: | How to set it up correctly in video sources and that? |
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| [17:57:49] | sm_: | MythTV video source name should be what? |
| [17:57:58] | wagnerrp: | whatever you want |
| [17:58:09] | wagnerrp: | the video source is just something to hold a list of channels |
| [17:58:23] | sm_: | How to attach it to the tuner then? |
| [17:58:25] | wagnerrp: | you can map several tuners to a video source, if each tuner is capable of tuning every channel in that list |
| [17:58:36] | wagnerrp: | just follow the steps |
| [17:58:48] | wagnerrp: | you'll get there in due time |
| [17:58:58] | sm_: | Maybe... |
| [17:59:33] | wagnerrp: | it's all laid out sequentially in mythtv-setup |
| [17:59:50] | wagnerrp: | you define the hardware, you define the video source, and then in input connections, you map the two together |
| [18:02:09] | sm_: | The guide is shit so that's the problem... |
| [18:03:32] | sm_: | Where's the linking section? |
| [18:03:39] | wagnerrp: | input connections |
| [18:04:20] | wagnerrp: | it should all be sequentially ordered in mythtv-setup |
| [18:05:25] | sm_: | Got it now. Searching for channels, but I don't think that it's going to find anything.... |
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| [18:23:20] | Steve-Goodey: | Positive attitude from sm_ there! And loads of thanks. |
| [18:27:34] | justinh: | nobody does the channel walk for plaudits. Or if they did they'd be bitterly disappointed regularly |
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| [18:36:08] | Korny_: | hmmm |
| [18:36:33] | Korny_: | For all the talk about how complicated myth backend is to setup, it really isn't... |
| [18:36:53] | justinh: | I've long said that |
| [18:37:12] | Korny_: | THe problems people complain about they'd ahve issues with ANY linux based PVR program |
| [18:37:15] | justinh: | mythtv has historically taken the rap for all kinds of things. lirc, xmltv ... |
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| [18:37:31] | justinh: | tuner drivers.. |
| [18:38:19] | justinh: | it's also not arcane to navigate around to do stuff. Unlike certain 'more popular' programs |
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| [18:38:27] | Korny_: | XBMC? |
| [18:38:43] | Korny_: | I'd like to use XBMC but I can't figure it out, let alone my wife |
| [18:38:51] | Korny_: | plus the pvr plugin stinks |
| [18:39:14] | justinh: | hmmm how do I get out of this part of the screen? Up, down? Left? OH LEFT moves the cursor DOWN to the other part of the screen? Yay! |
| [18:40:18] | Korny_: | Some of the new themes for myth front to emulate XBMC look nice, the only thing I wish I could do is seperate TV and Movies in mythvideo so they each had their own menu from the home menu |
| [18:40:45] | justinh: | I'd go more the other way |
| [18:40:59] | justinh: | just have the same kind of interfaces for *everything* & swap between em with filters |
| [18:41:22] | Korny_: | See I want it simple so if I select movies it does gallary view, if I select TV it does list view |
| [18:42:03] | justinh: | different sources in XBMC can have different views |
| [18:42:26] | Korny_: | yes, but I'm talking mythvideo |
| [18:42:47] | Korny_: | On the home screen having a TV and Movie selection from homescreen like XBMC does |
| [18:44:05] | justinh: | folder/dir preferences might not be too hard to implement |
| [18:44:44] | justinh: | there's all sorts of ways to get around it.. from putting an XML file in the root, to saving the view type in the database |
| [18:45:15] | justinh: | course then folders would need to be saved as entities in the DB |
| [18:45:38] | Korny_: | Could the layout file be edited? I know the theme I using uses a custom layout |
| [18:46:02] | justinh: | it'd make no difference because it uses the same choice of views for everythign |
| [18:46:07] | justinh: | *everything even |
| [18:46:48] | justinh: | unless you've just talking about editing the theme to be a happy compromise |
| [18:48:17] | Korny_: | I'm using mythmediastream its not half bad, only thing I'd change is the TV guide, can't figure out how to page down, except it scrolls sideways hehe |
| [18:48:28] | Korny_: | for channels |
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| [18:49:42] | ** justinh is stuck firmly in SDTV land ** | |
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| [18:52:37] | justinh: | gah. still find it hard to fight the urge to punch screenshots with anime features on em |
| [18:56:50] | justinh: | oh, and now I have something to try with the MCE IR blaster.. CONFIG_USB_EHCI_ROOT_HUB |
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| [19:01:08] | fluvvell: | is there a way of reloading card firmware without rebooting? |
| [19:02:58] | skd5aner: | fluvvell: maybe rmmod and depmod? no clue though |
| [19:03:29] | Korny_: | hmmmm I'm going to wiring my home soon with cat6, should I go 1 drop per bedroom or 2? |
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| [19:05:46] | skd5aner: | Korny_: when I built my house, I wired it myself... |
| [19:05:55] | skd5aner: | Korny_: ALWAYS drop more than you think |
| [19:06:55] | fluvvell: | Korney_ even if you dont connect both cables, its there in the wall for when you need it. |
| [19:07:02] | Korny_: | true |
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| [19:07:20] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v gigem | |
| [19:07:22] | skd5aner: | to each TV, I dropped 4 Cat6 and 2 Cat5s, to non-TV places, I dropped either 2 Cat6 + 1 Cat 5, or just 2 Cat6, or just 1 Cat6 and 1 Cat5. |
| [19:07:33] | Korny_: | wow :/ |
| [19:07:49] | wagnerrp: | why the mix? bunch of spare cat5 left over from previous runs? |
| [19:08:30] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: at the time, cat5e was much much cheaper (and actually a bit easier to pull with a thinner jacket) – and I used it almost exclusively for phone lines |
| [19:08:48] | Korny_: | whats this phone object you talk about/ |
| [19:08:50] | skd5aner: | I mispoke above though, it was 6 cat6 for the TV locations |
| [19:08:51] | Korny_: | >:) |
| [19:09:20] | skd5aner: | I color coded my cabling though |
| [19:10:11] | skd5aner: | black cat5e was for voice, green cat6 was for data, and white cat6 was for video/audio/baluns, and blue cat5e was for distributed home audio control |
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| [19:10:21] | skd5aner: | so... yea... I kinda went all out |
| [19:10:26] | wagnerrp: | fancy. i just marked off the patch panel |
| [19:10:27] | skd5aner: | then, I sold the house 4 years later, so... |
| [19:10:40] | wagnerrp: | i really aught to borrow one of the label printers from work.. |
| [19:11:11] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: got one for Christmas from the wife a few years back – office stores sell them on rebate pretty often and the mid-range consumer ones are "good enough" |
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| [19:12:11] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I should send you a pic of my network closet from that house someday... I think I did the math and came out to 2.5miles of copper I ran or something ludicrous like that |
| [19:12:25] | Korny_: | So did the people who bought your house even know about all that wire? |
| [19:12:50] | wagnerrp: | considering i've got a box and a half of cat5 in my home, i'm somewhere around there |
| [19:12:51] | skd5aner: | oh, and yellow cat5e was for lighting control, of which they don't really make that kind anymore, so there was a TON of yellow cat5 I ran in that house to every single light switch that will never be used :P |
| [19:13:41] | skd5aner: | box and a half? how much is in a box? my boxes were 1000ft and 500ft typically |
| [19:13:59] | wagnerrp: | 1000' |
| [19:14:21] | skd5aner: | gotcha |
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| [19:16:37] | Korny_: | ok whats the difference between riser rated and wall rated, I though wall rated was below riser, yet on monoprice wall rated is more expensive |
| [19:17:10] | Korny_: | hmmm wall rated are stranded, riser are solid |
| [19:17:42] | wagnerrp: | i'm presuming "wall rated" means "plenum grade" |
| [19:18:02] | wagnerrp: | which means the insulator is verified to not release toxic fumes into the buildings plenum space when it burns |
| [19:18:32] | Korny_: | no they have lenum grade |
| [19:18:39] | Korny_: | its 300 for 1000 feet hehe |
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| [19:20:36] | Korny_: | I'd assume solid would be easier to push through cavities but stranded will bend easier |
| [19:21:15] | wagnerrp: | CAT6 all has a center cross piece, to maintain separation and prevent kinking |
| [19:21:24] | wagnerrp: | that's going to prevent bends more than solid vs. stranded |
| [19:22:21] | skd5aner: | Korny_: monoprice is the first place to check, followed by firefold |
| [19:22:28] | skd5aner: | both are great prices, great product |
| [19:22:37] | justinh: | makes me laugh about bulding regs with regard to cabling |
| [19:23:05] | justinh: | how much difference is a few hundred feet of cable going to make when your house is up in flames? |
| [19:23:25] | skd5aner: | it matters in commercial buildings... |
| [19:23:36] | wagnerrp: | do you escape the fire, or are you incapacitated from toxic fumes, unable to escape? |
| [19:23:46] | skd5aner: | where smoke could get in to the exhaust system and cause naxuious fumes that nock you out |
| [19:23:55] | wagnerrp: | a few hundred feet, sure... but tens of thousands of feet? |
| [19:24:07] | justinh: | yeah sure it matters im commercial buildings |
| [19:24:31] | skd5aner: | I don't remember watching this movie, but apparently, I did... |
| [19:26:20] | skd5aner: | especially since, of all places it's ran in commercial builds, it's often in or around the ducts |
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| [20:16:22] | Korny: | All this talk about running network cable in duct lines gave me a great idea! |
| [20:16:59] | Korny: | I have a laundry shoot in this room that goes to laundry room with a false ceiling and I already have cable runs in there to the basement |
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| [21:22:25] | skd5aner: | #$@#$ – football game didn't record X( |
| [21:29:52] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'm still fighting w/ hdmi audio x( |
| [21:35:54] | MartinT: | skd5aner: 22 guys running round in shorts, not my thing... but each to their own.. |
| [21:36:48] | Hydr0p0nX: | is there anything other than the db i need to backup prior to an os/myth reinstall ? |
| [21:37:36] | wagnerrp: | well they are knee length shorts, with socks covering the rest... |
| [21:37:47] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: did you try my suggestion? |
| [21:37:52] | stuartm: | heh, so it seems the future of javascript is to turn it into a compiled language, at which time it will be only 50% slower than native code! At some point maybe they'll realise that spending so much time turning javascript into C/C++/C# would have been better spent allowing native code in the first place |
| [21:38:11] | wagnerrp: | i thought javascript already was a compiled code, effectively |
| [21:40:17] | Hydr0p0nX: | not sure i saw it |
| [21:40:20] | stuartm: | well all scripting languages are compiled before execution, but usually at runtime, what Mozilla are no proposing is that compiled scripts should be served to the end user, so effectively the browser does less work |
| [21:40:38] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: I have the same chipset, and I'm using HDMI audio without issue |
| [21:40:46] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: open alsamixer, check that the S/PDIF outputs aren't muted, MM == muted, 00 == active |
| [21:40:59] | Hydr0p0nX: | oh |
| [21:41:06] | stuartm: | in MythTV's audio setup, it should appear as ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0 |
| [21:41:21] | Hydr0p0nX: | in my case, hdmi is showing up as dev=3 |
| [21:41:23] | stuartm: | in fact, unmute everything |
| [21:41:26] | Hydr0p0nX: | i have |
| [21:41:59] | Hydr0p0nX: | http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=26e1e36b4e4 . . . 8689d725a0d6 |
| [21:42:15] | Hydr0p0nX: | output of alsa-info ... |
| [21:42:32] | Hydr0p0nX: | i don't see any reason it shouldn't be working |
| [21:43:09] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: yeah, probably is, I disabled one of the onboard audio devices, it's dev 3 on my production box which has the same motherboard |
| [21:43:32] | stuartm: | snd_hda_intel? |
| [21:44:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | everything i'm reading says that should be right |
| [21:44:40] | Hydr0p0nX: | its their standard |
| [21:44:43] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: is the MythTV box on when you boot the machine? Some TVs won't recognise the existance of audio over HDMI unless the input is there when it's first switched on/configured |
| [21:45:15] | Hydr0p0nX: | yep |
| [21:45:26] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: SELECT * FROM settings WHERE value='AudioOutputDevice'; |
| [21:47:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | set to alsa:default at the moment, but i've tried every output provided |
| [21:47:50] | stuartm: | well default definitely won't work |
| [21:47:58] | stuartm: | try ALSA:plughw:0,3 |
| [21:48:56] | stuartm: | that's what my production frontend uses (with the 8200) |
| [21:49:02] | MartinT: | stuartm: that proposal is interesting... strikes me as passing the buck... |
| [21:49:34] | Hydr0p0nX: | do you have hdmi audio outside of myth? |
| [21:50:35] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: only myth running on that machine, and it's been years since I set it up so I really couldn't say |
| [21:51:35] | stuartm: | MartinT: it's slight of hand, "look we've got the fastest javascript engine*" * If you precompile the script |
| [21:51:58] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: if pulseaudio is installed, uninstall it |
| [21:52:07] | Hydr0p0nX: | no sound |
| [21:52:12] | MartinT: | yeah |
| [21:52:12] | stuartm: | or disable it (easiest way to do that is uninstall) |
| [21:52:24] | wagnerrp: | stuartm: not necessarily. most are just tokenized into a form that consumes less memory, but are not compiled into machine code |
| [21:52:38] | Hydr0p0nX: | pulse is gone |
| [21:52:57] | Hydr0p0nX: | completely purged it about 30 reboots and 10 forums ago =/ |
| [21:52:59] | wagnerrp: | you're just converting the ascii text into a binary format that is easier for the interpreter to walk through |
| [21:54:03] | MartinT: | with some optimisations... |
| [21:54:04] | DavidBrooke: | wagnerrp: anymore thoughts on the issues I talked about last night concerning the trouble starting mythfrontend....looping language/database screen? |
| [21:54:07] | Hydr0p0nX: | what distro/version are you running stuartm ? |
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| [21:54:42] | wagnerrp: | DavidBrooke: the only reason you would continue to get that screen is if the frontend is unable to connect to or authenticate against the database |
| [21:54:54] | wagnerrp: | maybe check your logs to see what config file it is loading |
| [21:55:04] | wagnerrp: | perhaps it is trying to load one it has no permission to write to |
| [21:55:26] | DavidBrooke: | wagnerrp: frontend log? |
| [21:55:29] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: Ubuntu 12.04 |
| [21:55:31] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [21:55:37] | DavidBrooke: | wagnerrp: ty |
| [21:56:08] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: prior to that I was using Mandriva/Mageia where it was also working |
| [21:56:25] | Hydr0p0nX: | you using full ubuntu w/ myth packages or mythbuntu? |
| [21:57:02] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: same thing, but mythbuntu |
| [21:57:13] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: I remember having a lot of trouble getting it to work originally, but that was years ago and drivers were still new |
| [21:57:41] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea, it worked find through analog outs |
| [21:58:28] | Hydr0p0nX: | just moved it to the living room and hooked up the hdmi component this weekend though |
| [22:00:11] | stuartm: | vaguely recollect having to setup a script to unmute the device after a reboot, since it would keep defaulting to off |
| [22:00:54] | stuartm: | no idea if that's still being used, or where I actually configured it to run |
| [22:01:34] | Hydr0p0nX: | i've just tried so much now that i've lost track of everything i've tried |
| [22:03:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | any custom asound configs or special settings in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ? |
| [22:05:50] | stuartm: | no, used to have a custom asound config but I was able to disable that some time ago as improvements were made in alsa/myth |
| [22:06:08] | stuartm: | are you using any special audio settings in myth? |
| [22:06:18] | Hydr0p0nX: | nope |
| [22:06:28] | skd5aner: | MartinT: I'm in the US... "football" here doesn't involve shorts and I wouldn't be upset if myth missed a soccer game |
| [22:06:42] | stuartm: | no passthrough/DTS stuff enabled? |
| [22:06:49] | Hydr0p0nX: | nope |
| [22:07:00] | Hydr0p0nX: | but i've tried enabling to see if it made a difference, didn't seem to |
| [22:07:13] | MartinT: | skd5aner: ah, you're referring to rugby with padding I assume... |
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| [22:11:32] | skd5aner: | MartinT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football |
| [22:11:58] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: try, ignore the fact that it should be device 3, this is what MythTV is determing the device is here, and it works – ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0 |
| [22:12:01] | skd5aner: | rugby is more like if American Football and Soccer had a baby |
| [22:13:06] | skd5aner: | Hydr0p0nX: I haven't had to look at my audio settings in years... but what distro are you using and did you also try the audio setup wizard? |
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| [22:13:30] | skd5aner: | also, is the user who runs mythtv also a membe of your "audio |
| [22:13:35] | Hydr0p0nX: | mythbuntu 12.04.3 |
| [22:13:37] | skd5aner: | ... "audio" group |
| [22:13:46] | Hydr0p0nX: | my user is a member of audio |
| [22:13:59] | Hydr0p0nX: | i've tried manual and automated audio setup |
| [22:14:08] | skd5aner: | does sound work outside of mythtv? |
| [22:14:13] | Hydr0p0nX: | no |
| [22:14:45] | skd5aner: | hmmmm |
| [22:15:03] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: can you pastebin the output of amixer |
| [22:15:06] | skd5aner: | have you looked in alsamixer and made sure they're not musted? |
| [22:15:08] | skd5aner: | muted |
| [22:15:11] | Hydr0p0nX: | yes |
| [22:16:16] | Hydr0p0nX: | http://pastebin.com/xBaRMJ6K |
| [22:18:12] | stuartm: | Master is at 0% volume |
| [22:18:35] | skd5aner: | heh – was just looking at that too |
| [22:19:10] | Hydr0p0nX: | weird |
| [22:19:15] | Hydr0p0nX: | it was 100% earlier |
| [22:19:15] | justinh: | can somebody please write a Sarah Millican audio filter for Mythfrontend? |
| [22:20:48] | skd5aner: | justinh: jy_a wrote a vuvuzella for me a few years ago when I sent him an article that explained how someone did it in mplayer :) |
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| [22:22:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | didn't seem to make a difference though |
| [22:23:21] | justinh: | skd5aner: it needs shift the pitch of the audio about 2 octaves down, but only when the 'comedienne' is speaking |
| [22:24:17] | justinh: | shrill much? gah |
| [22:24:17] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: the biggest problem I had was that I ruled out mostly correct configs because one thing was wrong, mostly in my case it was that the device kept ending up muted, so I though the device string was wrong when it was actually corect |
| [22:26:14] | MartinT: | stuartm: I had the same issue with an 8400gs PCI with HDMI |
| [22:26:46] | MartinT: | it's knowing which one to unmute that got me.. then using the plughw device... |
| [22:26:48] | skd5aner: | Hydr0p0nX: did you do logs with -v audio while doing the audio wizard? |
| [22:26:57] | skd5aner: | Hydr0p0nX: it should show what it's detecting and trying to do at least |
| [22:29:15] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'll check again |
| [22:30:00] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: ok, I've just looked at the exact configuration of my frontend – it's using "ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0" (it's actually dev 3, but lets ignore that), it's set to Stereo, on the Test page 'Use highest quality' is OFF |
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| [22:30:19] | stuartm: | in advanced audio config, everything is unchecked except HBR passthrough |
| [22:31:43] | stuartm: | 'Use internal volume controls' is disabled |
| [22:32:23] | stuartm: | after making any changes there, double check that everything is a max volume and enabled in alsamixer |
| [22:33:36] | stuartm: | Hydr0p0nX: if it still doesn't work, might be worth looking at which snd related modules you have loaded, maybe a conflict somewhere |
| [22:33:51] | stuartm: | here "lsmod | grep snd" shows: |
| [22:34:23] | stuartm: | http://pastebin.com/XKMnAkAK |
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| [22:38:58] | Hydr0p0nX: | http://pastebin.com/8zTJAVQq |
| [22:39:25] | Hydr0p0nX: | only difference is the realtech driver |
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| [23:45:43] | fluvvell: | is there a way of reloading card firmware without rebooting? |
| [23:46:24] | [R]: | you could try unloading the module |
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