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| [10:44:34] | Rhomber: | So wagnerrp suggested SteveGoodey might know a decent DVB-T tuner? |
| [10:44:45] | Rhomber: | i had gone to bed by the time I saw that though :( |
| [10:45:10] | Rhomber: | happy to hear anyones suggestions.. currently looking at.. http://www.scorptec.com.au/computer/41383-hvr2210 (Hauppauge HVR-2210) |
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| [10:46:29] | mengoshmink: | looks like a decent choice, only it doesn't have dvb-t2 |
| [10:47:13] | Rhomber: | what's DVB-T2? |
| [10:47:20] | Rhomber: | (sorry, i'm new to this..) |
| [10:47:27] | mengoshmink: | high def |
| [10:47:33] | mengoshmink: | 1080p |
| [10:47:43] | mengoshmink: | don't worry, I'm relatively new too |
| [10:47:48] | Rhomber: | ah, i was wondering if there were any 1080p ones.. mostly saw 1080i |
| [10:47:55] | Rhomber: | cool cool |
| [10:48:07] | Rhomber: | my TV is 1080i, but id def go a 1080p for future concerns |
| [10:48:18] | mengoshmink: | I'm looking for the list I found once, helped me |
| [10:49:28] | mengoshmink: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards << I think thats it |
| [10:49:42] | Rhomber: | "Only Australia is using the earlier DVB-T with MPEG2 for HD." |
| [10:50:01] | Rhomber: | lol, we don't have DVB-T2.. probably why i didn't see any cards |
| [10:50:36] | mengoshmink: | I like Hauppage cards, still have one in my server but I bought a Turbosight one recently, only problem is the drivers are closed source |
| [10:50:46] | Rhomber: | ah cool, thanks |
| [10:50:48] | mengoshmink: | DVB-T2 seems to be surprisingly rare |
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| [10:51:11] | Rhomber: | ah, so you couldn't get it to work? |
| [10:51:25] | Rhomber: | fair enough, can just buy another card one day when it becomes available |
| [10:51:34] | mengoshmink: | when I bought a TV last year I found it very hard to find any that were 1080 and dvb-t2 receivers |
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| [10:51:46] | mengoshmink: | no, it works fine, Turbosight support linux |
| [10:52:03] | mengoshmink: | but you have to compile/install the drivers each kernel update |
| [10:54:57] | Rhomber: | so dumb question, devices on that page you linked are supported? I just don't see a column that says "supported" or such :) |
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| [10:55:04] | mengoshmink: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-T-500 << I bought one of these years ago, still use it |
| [10:55:10] | Rhomber: | ah cool |
| [10:55:21] | Rhomber: | sounds reliable :) |
| [10:55:37] | Rhomber: | I came across this guy, http://www.cplonline.com.au/dvico-fusion-dual . . . package.html |
| [10:55:46] | Rhomber: | but i can't seem to find the actual site for DVICO |
| [10:56:02] | Rhomber: | but it is listed on the link you sent.. but not as DVI-150.. as Dual Express |
| [10:56:18] | mengoshmink: | I don't know but I would assume most are supported, its nice when the supplier officially supports linux as the hardware guys sometimes change chips on the same model card which can screw things up |
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| [10:57:17] | Rhomber: | ah, the link for it goes through to explain.. apparently it's only partially supported |
| [10:57:33] | Rhomber: | yeah would be |
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| [10:57:46] | Rhomber: | i've yet to hear a definite "get this card, it works out of the box" |
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| [10:57:54] | Rhomber: | but im sure there are such cards.. |
| [10:58:32] | mengoshmink: | well, my nova card was almost like that, just needed to download the firmware |
| [10:59:02] | mengoshmink: | when I did have a problem with the Turbosight one their tech support helped me |
| [10:59:16] | mengoshmink: | if your familiar with linux I would recommend both |
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| [11:02:09] | mengoshmink: | what key features are you looking for? |
| [11:02:32] | mengoshmink: | I find most of what is listed is the software not the card itself |
| [11:04:00] | mengoshmink: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information << does this help? |
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| [11:07:09] | Rhomber: | sorry was watching a thing on youtube |
| [11:07:31] | Rhomber: | just basically dual tuner, with 1080p or 1080i.. fast channel change.. that's about it :) |
| [11:07:36] | mengoshmink: | http://www.tbsdtv.com << manufacture of my latest card but bought through amazon |
| [11:07:40] | Rhomber: | can be PCI or PCIe.. probably needs to be PCIe |
| [11:07:57] | mengoshmink: | fast channel change? not sure I have ever had that |
| [11:08:37] | Rhomber: | regarding the first link.. goes through.. http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCIe_Cards ... which doesn't list a lot.. unless I go USB perhaps |
| [11:08:44] | Rhomber: | *looks at second link* |
| [11:08:51] | mengoshmink: | oh, I gtg |
| [11:08:57] | Rhomber: | well, reasonable channel change |
| [11:09:01] | mengoshmink: | sorry man, I'll be back later, at some point |
| [11:09:02] | Rhomber: | ok, thanks for your help – cya :) |
| [11:09:09] | mengoshmink: | I'm in the uK though, so a big time difference |
| [11:09:13] | mengoshmink: | good luck |
| [11:10:07] | Rhomber: | The second link only has DVB-S*.. aussies need DVB-T |
| [11:10:09] | Rhomber: | and thanks :) |
| [11:10:34] | mengoshmink: | it was? sorry, I only use dvb-t too |
| [11:11:07] | mengoshmink: | see you |
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| [14:42:24] | holgi123: | Hi |
| [14:44:16] | holgi123: | I wanted to import my channel file channels.conf I have already used with Xine, but in the "Import Connection" menu I can not select nor browse for channel files. Do I need to put the file in specific directory so MythTv finds it? |
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| [14:59:06] | holgi123: | Or in other words "Import Existing Scan" does not allow me to select any file. Why? Any ideas are welcome ... |
| [15:04:30] | holgi123: | ping |
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| [15:50:57] | wagnerrp: | perform a scan within mythtv |
| [15:51:05] | wagnerrp: | importing a channels.conf does not work properly |
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| [16:19:24] | holgi123: | <wagnerrp> I have finally scanned for channels, but can only foun about a 1/3rd |
| [16:20:08] | holgi123: | I have finally scanned for channels could only find 1/3 rd of the total channels .. |
| [16:21:17] | holgi123: | In some older posts I saw that before there seemed to be a special Tab for importing channels.conf files.... |
| [16:21:48] | Yippee38: | Hello all |
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| [16:32:37] | ** ctmjr wonders if increasing the scan time out would help ** | |
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| [16:39:29] | Yippee38: | Can anybody point me to some document that explains how recorded content is transfered from the backend to the frontend? I'm completely confused about that. |
| [16:41:03] | wagnerrp: | video is streamed over an internal communications protocol |
| [16:41:46] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Myth_Protocol |
| [16:41:52] | Yippee38: | Ah. Ok. So does the backend need any kind of special video card for decoding, or does the frontend do that? |
| [16:42:05] | wagnerrp: | the backend records, the frontend plays |
| [16:42:20] | wagnerrp: | where ever you intend to run those, they need their own respective hardware |
| [16:42:35] | Yippee38: | Ok. Great. I kept seeing things talking about the video card requirements on the backend, and that confused me. |
| [16:42:48] | wagnerrp: | video capture card, maybe? |
| [16:43:02] | Yippee38: | Yeah. I'm planning on a Ceton InfiniTV 4 |
| [16:43:28] | wagnerrp: | i understand WOW is pretty lenient about that stuff |
| [16:43:28] | Yippee38: | Oh. I see what you mean. |
| [16:43:54] | Yippee38: | I hope so. Unfortunately, in my area they don't have the firewire port (my original intention) enabled on the stb |
| [16:44:09] | wagnerrp: | you're better off getting a cablecard tuner than using firewire |
| [16:44:16] | wagnerrp: | more robust and cheaper in the long run |
| [16:45:00] | Yippee38: | Yeah. Multiple tuners. That means I need a second box for the backend though because my frontend is on an old motherboard with the one chipset that doesn't support the Ceton InfiniTV. :P |
| [16:45:22] | Yippee38: | Figures |
| [16:45:45] | wagnerrp: | does not support it? |
| [16:46:08] | Yippee38: | The Ceton InfiniTV PCI cards don't work on the nforce chipset. |
| [16:46:26] | Yippee38: | on any nforce chipset. Mine is nForce4 |
| [16:46:38] | wagnerrp: | odd |
| [16:46:58] | Yippee38: | That's what I thought, but I've seen 3rd party confirmation of that. <shrugs> |
| [16:47:22] | wagnerrp: | i had issue with nForce USB controllers not liking a KVM switch i had |
| [16:47:46] | Yippee38: | Oh well. My long-term intention was to set up a dedicated backend/network file server anyway. I'm just doing it sooner than planned now. |
| [16:47:47] | wagnerrp: | forced me to put in-line hubs on all those machines to connect through |
| [16:48:13] | Yippee38: | Strange. Must be something funky in the way they work. |
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| [16:49:26] | Yippee38: | Thank you very much for explaining that to me. Off to the store to buy some hardware. ;) |
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| [17:31:10] | whoDat_: | where do i tell mythtv where to find the mythlogserver binary? |
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| [17:43:33] | bill6502: | whoDat_: mythlogserver should be installed wherever the other MythTV programs are. E.g /usr/bin/myth*. You shouldn't need to 'tell' MythTV anything about locating it. |
| [17:44:21] | bill6502: | And, if you're on 0.27, you can run without it or if building from source, build without i (my preference.) |
| [18:43:47] | mengoshmink: | thanks wagnerrp (http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=113256#113256) |
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| [19:58:28] | whoDat_: | one of my frontends wont change channels if i change to a channel that is on a different tuner on livetv. this is a windows front end. if i switch to the tuner manually first, then i can change to whatever channel within that tuner. any ideas? |
| [19:59:25] | wagnerrp: | what version? |
| [19:59:46] | whoDat_: | .27 |
| [19:59:49] | wagnerrp: | older versions of the frontend required some special setting to allow you to browse across video sources |
| [19:59:56] | wagnerrp: | 0.27 should behave that way by default |
| [20:00:02] | whoDat_: | the linux front ends work fine, this is a windows front end |
| [20:00:30] | whoDat_: | so maybe that change didnt make it into the windows version of .27? |
| [20:00:38] | wagnerrp: | they're the same source |
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| [20:15:00] | whoDat_: | 2013-12–08 15:14:36.702237 I TV: CommitQueuedInput() livetv(1) qchannum(46) qch |
| [20:15:03] | whoDat_: | anid(0) |
| [20:15:19] | whoDat_: | the log shows that it is trying to change channels |
| [20:15:27] | whoDat_: | and dont see any errors |
| [20:18:29] | tonsofpcs: | is there a way to play mpeg files from the record programs list in a tab in chrome (MPEG2, Wihtout transcode) |
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| [20:48:26] | mengoshmink: | blimey! I'm on a roll with fixing my long standing mythtv qwerks tonight |
| [20:50:06] | wagnerrp: | tonsofpcs: there is a direct streaming option |
| [20:50:42] | mengoshmink: | hey wagnerrp, encase you didn't see my post, thanks :) |
| [20:51:29] | wagnerrp: | on the left of the "Recorded Programs" screen, there are two buttons |
| [20:51:37] | wagnerrp: | direct download and asx screeb |
| [20:51:42] | wagnerrp: | the direct download is obvious... |
| [20:52:00] | wagnerrp: | the asx stream is just the a playlist pointing to the direct download |
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| [20:58:26] | tonsofpcs: | right, chrome won't play it though |
| [20:59:15] | wagnerrp: | if chrome can't handle mpeg2, that's on chrome |
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| [23:35:20] | wagnerrp: | bah... another "stitch your own" movie |
| [23:36:29] | wagnerrp: | i hate those |
| [23:39:01] | whoDat_: | wagnerrp: any ideas as to what I could check for why I cant switch to a channel on another tuner? |
| [23:40:53] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [23:41:38] | whoDat_: | strange that it only happends on this windows frontend |
| [23:42:39] | whoDat_: | maybe i should install virtualbox on this windows machine with mythbuntu on that. |
| [23:43:30] | wagnerrp: | expect poor graphical performance in a virtual machine |
| [23:43:39] | whoDat_: | hmm |
| [23:43:42] | wagnerrp: | i would be surprised if mythfrontend were actually usable in one |
| [23:43:55] | whoDat_: | how do you watch mythtv while toying on your windows machine? ;-) |
| [23:44:32] | wagnerrp: | i either watch the videos directly, or use one of several linux machines next to my windows machine |
| [23:44:49] | whoDat_: | okay |
| [23:45:38] | wagnerrp: | i have two desktops with mythfrontend installed, or i can reboot my work laptop off an iscsi image |
| [23:47:02] | whoDat_: | yeah I may just set up a dual boot mythbuntu on my laptop |
| [23:47:19] | whoDat_: | I have an old laptop I already installed it on, but its too slow for HD |
| [23:47:33] | wagnerrp: | how slow? |
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| [23:47:58] | toddc: | I have several VM's with front ends working but some older pc's are on the slower side |
| [23:48:35] | whoDat_: | hp 2710p... -> http://www.cnet.com/laptops/hp-compaq-2710p-c . . . 2531246.html |
| [23:49:00] | whoDat_: | Intel Core 2 Duo U7600 / 1.2 GHz, Intel GMA X3100 GPU |
| [23:49:12] | wagnerrp: | odd, no trailer for casino royale |
| [23:49:29] | whoDat_: | i set it to SLIM profile in the video, still choppy. |
| [23:49:35] | wagnerrp: | oooh, yeah...ultraportables need not apply |
| [23:49:42] | whoDat_: | :) |
| [23:49:46] | wagnerrp: | even today, they wouldn't have the power |
| [23:50:32] | whoDat_: | my gaming laptop would work just fine I am sure.. but didnt really want to set it up for dual boot. |
| [23:50:59] | wagnerrp: | i didn't. i just hit F12 and tell mine to boot off the network |
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| [23:51:20] | whoDat_: | hmmmm. now thats an idea. |
| [23:51:54] | whoDat_: | is that as slow as like booting a livecd though? |
| [23:52:08] | wagnerrp: | it just boots into the same stock image i have for all my other frontends |
| [23:52:24] | wagnerrp: | maybe 30–40 seconds |
| [23:52:24] | wagnerrp: | let me time it... |
| [23:55:18] | wagnerrp: | heh, or not... |
| [23:55:18] | wagnerrp: | i forgot i updated the backend while i was out of town, and never updated my frontends |
| [23:55:19] | wagnerrp: | so they're complaining about incorrect schema version |
| [23:55:43] | whoDat_: | yeah i just went through that myself on all the frontends |
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| [23:59:40] | toddc: | if I can use xbmc front on a raspberry |
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