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| [01:15:10] | plut0: | some of my recordings are failing on 0.27, why is this happening? decoding error |
| [01:15:10] | plut0: | eno: Unknown error 541478725 (541478725) |
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| [05:59:08] | Shadow__X: | i have a channel lineup that keeps adding channels back after i delete them. They are both fed by the same schedule direct account. I need to delete the channels because one of the tuners does not get all the channels. How can i prevent channels being added again after i delete them from a source? |
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| [06:07:59] | [R]: | you deleted them from the website? |
| [06:10:56] | Shadow__X: | [R]: no because it seems schedules direct only lets me have 1 channel lineup per provider |
| [06:11:20] | Shadow__X: | iirc they used to let you do that |
| [06:15:38] | Shadow__X: | is there a way to have mythfilldatabase not readd deleted channels? |
| [06:17:28] | [R]: | there is a switch dealing with it i think |
| [06:18:21] | Shadow__X: | i have a hdpvr and a hdhr prime. The prime line up is the problem |
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| [07:17:43] | Shadow__X: | anyone know of a way to stop mythfill to stop readding channels from schedules direct? |
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| [09:07:39] | tvin: | Hello? |
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| [09:25:32] | tvin: | hello? |
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| [09:50:01] | tvin: | stuarta: I am looking to watch and record over the air (and perhaps in the future cable or satellite service) on ubuntu, or perhaps in the future, archlinux, will Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 work with ubuntu/linux? Especially will the remote work? |
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| [09:54:34] | stuarta: | tvin: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2250 |
| [09:55:11] | tvin: | stuarta: I already have long been to that webpage, so please don't treat it as though it has all my answers |
| [09:55:43] | stuarta: | ok, i was going to say, if it has linux driver support then it'll work |
| [09:56:43] | stuarta: | dunno about the remote tho, i never use them with these cards |
| [09:57:29] | tvin: | stuarta: Basic working of some of its functions and complete working of all of its functions are very different things |
| [09:58:17] | stuarta: | yes, and since i have never used that card, i can't be more specific. |
| [09:59:07] | stuarta: | you may get better answers once north america wakes up ~4hrs time, you may find some users of that card there. |
| [09:59:27] | stuarta: | the alternative, is following up on mythtv-users mailing list |
| [09:59:34] | tvin: | stuarta: Can I connect a device like a box set or other video source to my video card and use mythtv to record the incoming data? But can a video card even normally receive data like that? |
| [09:59:53] | stuarta: | you need an encoder card |
| [10:00:03] | stuarta: | which takes the video, and produces mpeg |
| [10:00:12] | ** stuarta goes to mtg ** | |
| [10:00:46] | tvin: | stuarta: What is a encoder card? |
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| [10:21:22] | stuarta: | tvin: that care has two of them, looks like they are connected to the analogue inputs |
| [10:21:58] | dekarl-work: | tvin: from http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2250 "Two analog tuners, each with their own hardware encoders" as opposed to old school frame grabbers where the software has to do the mpeg encoding on its own |
| [10:24:06] | tvin: | dekarl-work: Ok, but I don't remember asking a question that would be pertinent to |
| [10:24:08] | dekarl-work: | you can find simple frame grabbers for 5 <currency unit> everywhere http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Bttv_de . . . t848,_bt878) they are ok for watching live (no trick play) without an additional display, but not so ok for recording |
| [10:25:20] | dekarl-work: | tvin, sorry, no harm intended |
| [10:25:57] | tvin: | dekarl-work: Well then its no good for me, the point would be for me to connect a future cable or satallite box to my PC for DVR functionality |
| [10:26:59] | dekarl-work: | correct. they are just a prominent example of "cards without encoder" |
| [10:28:46] | stuarta: | ie. crap |
| [10:28:54] | tvin: | stuarta: Well I am struggling to see what kind of inputs this card has, but I am pretty sure I don't see HDMI, could I connect say a satellite box to to the HDMI of my video card, and have the Haup card act as a encoder for DVR function of the incoming satallite service? |
| [10:29:10] | tvin: | satellite |
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| [10:30:15] | stuarta: | so you really need to look at what you want to connect. there are dvb-s/s2 cards for connecting direct to the sat dish |
| [10:30:42] | stuarta: | encoder cards connect to the STB and required ir blasters to change channel |
| [10:30:51] | stuarta: | cable is a different card again |
| [10:30:58] | stuarta: | unless you use the stb method |
| [10:31:10] | tvin: | Well first and foremost I need a tuner for over the air, but I also want potential DVR functionality for cable or satellite in the future |
| [10:31:19] | stuarta: | so dvb-t/t2 ?? |
| [10:31:36] | stuarta: | which country are you in now? |
| [10:32:51] | tvin: | stuarta: Please link me to the product you are talking about, I did a search but am not sure that is what you are talking about |
| [10:32:53] | tvin: | The US |
| [10:33:51] | stuarta: | right, so not dvb-t |
| [10:34:33] | stuarta: | hdhomerun would be your best bet i'd say |
| [10:34:48] | stuarta: | they do various models for cable / sat / fta |
| [10:36:40] | stuarta: | http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/atsc/ |
| [10:36:57] | tvin: | So the homerun besides having built in tuners, would be able to take other independent video sources, whether from a DVD player, a satellite or cable box, or gaming system, and be able to record them on schedule? |
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| [10:51:26] | __raven: | hi |
| [10:52:33] | __raven: | frontend on a quadcore machine is extremely slow while on other machines is no problem – any ideas? i cleaned the caches already, cpu and ram are low, hdd activity too |
| [10:54:49] | tvin: | stuarta: ? |
| [10:58:00] | Merlin83b: | __raven: What graphics card and video profile are you using? |
| [10:59:10] | Merlin83b: | And what's slow? Video playback? Moving between menu items? Loading new menus? |
| [10:59:32] | __raven: | video is ok but the database queries are slow. i did not change anything in settings since before |
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| [11:02:47] | Merlin83b: | Combined machine fe/be? |
| [11:03:09] | __raven: | no only fe |
| [11:04:54] | __raven: | and server is configured by ip not by dns |
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| [11:40:05] | __raven: | Merlin83b: ? |
| [12:07:21] | Merlin83b: | Do you have an fe on the be? Is that running nice and fast? |
| [12:25:21] | __raven: | Merlin83b: no be is on a dedicated server. from another fe it runs fine |
| [12:26:34] | Shadow__X: | how do i stop mythfill from readding channels that were deleted through mythweb? |
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| [17:33:20] | qu: | Anyone use MythMote? |
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| [18:10:46] | qu: | Wow. |
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| [19:46:31] | __raven: | Merlin83b: ? |
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| [20:33:30] | tvin: | hello? |
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| [20:48:45] | tvin: | anyone here? |
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| [20:57:14] | SteveGoodey: | tvin: Normal procedure is to just ask away. :-) |
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| [21:30:05] | runelind: | are there any recommended myth-frontend htpcs out there? I was thinking of a mini-itx system running linux. |
| [21:30:35] | runelind: | I'm having playback problems on both my NVidia ION (with vdpau) system running linux and my 2ghz c2d mac mini running 10.9 |
| [21:31:23] | runelind: | where recorded playback will skip quite a bit. |
| [21:33:08] | runelind: | but my retina macbook pro will play back content OK |
| [21:35:11] | Korny: | hmm? |
| [21:35:47] | runelind: | I'm playing back recorded content from my HD-Homerun prime |
| [21:35:51] | Korny: | My atom with ion plays everything I throw at it, just have issues with the GUI gettign slower because the atom is pokey |
| [21:36:13] | Korny: | I have an HD HRprime and regular HD HR, no issues with playback |
| [21:36:25] | tvin: | Well I don't want to repeat myself over and over to a empty room |
| [21:36:38] | runelind: | Korny: hrm, are you using 0.27? |
| [21:36:42] | Korny: | yes |
| [21:36:56] | runelind: | running mythbuntu, or something similar? |
| [21:37:00] | tvin: | Does all the features of Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 work on ubuntu? |
| [21:37:02] | Korny: | yep mythbuntu |
| [21:37:29] | runelind: | are you using vdpau normal profile for playback? |
| [21:38:15] | Korny: | My backend is also my bedroom TV and it has a low end i3 but I know wagnerrp runs a frontend with a ivybridge pentium with no issues and barely any cpu usage |
| [21:38:24] | Korny: | runelind: slim or normal, I forget |
| [21:38:40] | runelind: | I think I'm running slim, but I have the same problems or worse with normal. |
| [21:38:46] | Korny: | Have you installed the nvidia drivers? |
| [21:39:43] | tvin: | Korny, was that a answer to my question? Especially does the remote work? And would any remote work, like a universal etc |
| [21:40:00] | toddc: | XBMC front mythtv backend |
| [21:40:18] | runelind: | Korny: I have nvidia-304 installed |
| [21:40:51] | toddc: | I use a usb ir remote but need to lookup the model |
| [21:41:28] | toddc: | Adesso ARC-1100 |
| [21:42:26] | runelind: | Korny: is that what you have? |
| [21:42:53] | Korny: | runelind: I have whatever is default with mythbuntu with updates so 304 sounds right though |
| [21:46:15] | tvin: | Does all the features of Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 work on ubuntu? |
| [21:47:22] | Korny: | tvin: I don't know anyhting about the 2250 sorry |
| [21:50:06] | tvin: | I was talking to some people in hardware channel yesterday. I wanted to be able to use my computer as a DVR for HD satellite service, which I don't have now but may get in the future. They were saying the signal is encrypted so that one can only use windows media player or something |
| [21:50:13] | tvin: | couldn't mythtv manage this? |
| [21:50:39] | tvin: | and what hardware do you guys recommend for dvr of over the air and satellite service? |
| [21:50:43] | runelind: | Korny: you didn't do anything else for playback? |
| [21:51:01] | Korny: | runelind: nope, are you using wireless vs hard wired? |
| [21:51:12] | runelind: | 100mbit wired |
| [21:51:21] | runelind: | for some reason it couldn't get it to lock in at a gig |
| [21:51:27] | runelind: | but I'm not showing interface errors on the switch |
| [21:55:36] | runelind: | and i can push 10+ MBytes/sec through it |
| [21:55:44] | runelind: | enough to play uncompressed blu-ray, at least. |
| [21:56:35] | Korny: | I've had issues with a bad cable causing issues with playback |
| [21:58:15] | tvin: | Anyone know? |
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| [22:00:17] | tvin: | I was talking to some people in hardware channel yesterday. I wanted to be able to use my computer as a DVR for HD satellite service, which I don't have now but may get in the future. They were saying the signal is encrypted so that one can only use windows media player or something couldn't mythtv manage this? |
| [22:00:24] | tvin: | and what hardware do you guys recommend for dvr of over the air and satellite service? |
| [22:00:31] | runelind: | Korny: I was connected to the same switch with my mbpr, and playback was perfect. |
| [22:07:32] | tvin: | Did I say something wrong? |
| [22:10:25] | tvin: | hello? |
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| [22:17:00] | tvin: | Hello? |
| [22:18:21] | ** tgm4883 waves at tvin ** | |
| [22:19:35] | tvin: | tgm4883: I was talking to some people in hardware channel yesterday. I wanted to be able to use my computer as a DVR for HD satellite service, which I don't have now but may get in the future. They were saying the signal is encrypted so that one can only use windows media player or something couldn't mythtv manage this? |
| [22:19:48] | tvin: | tgm4883: and what hardware do you guys recommend for dvr of over the air and satellite service? |
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| [22:19:54] | tgm4883: | tvin, yes, I saw you say that twice already |
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| [22:22:20] | tvin: | tgm4883: And no one said a word |
| [22:22:59] | tvin: | tgm4883: Do you not know about any of this then? |
| [22:23:40] | tgm4883: | tvin, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's either A) Because nobody/almost nobody uses satellite as their source, or B) you didn't specify where you are located, and the people that do use satellite can't be bothered enough to respond |
| [22:24:02] | tgm4883: | IIRC, using satellite in the US is far different from using it in the UK |
| [22:24:08] | tvin: | tgm4883: Do you use cable then? |
| [22:24:11] | tgm4883: | yes |
| [22:24:25] | tgm4883: | I have an HDHR Prime on comcast in the USA |
| [22:25:13] | tvin: | tgm4883: So you have a DVR of that on your computer with ubuntu? you don't need windows media player? |
| [22:25:36] | tgm4883: | I use mythtv, why would I need a windows media player? |
| [22:25:43] | tgm4883: | such an odd question |
| [22:28:18] | tvin: | tgm4883: I explained the reason for that question in the bit you noted I repeated several times |
| [22:28:40] | tvin: | in that light, it isn't odd at all |
| [22:30:09] | tgm4883: | tvin, perhaps. As I said, I don't use satellite. Further, you still haven't specified where you are, so it's a little hard to recommend hardware. For instance, if you are in Europe, I believe you would need a DVB-S2 card, however if you are in the US, I believe the only way to record satellite is via a HDPVR |
| [22:33:54] | tvin: | US |
| [22:34:12] | tvin: | I also said cable and over the air |
| [22:36:00] | tgm4883: | I see OTA, I don't see cable. That said, HDHR Prime for Cable. HDHR for OTA |
| [22:36:12] | tgm4883: | the Prime requires a Cable card |
| [22:37:07] | tvin: | OTA? |
| [22:37:12] | tgm4883: | over the air |
| [22:37:15] | tvin: | ah |
| [22:37:41] | tvin: | What do you think of Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250? |
| [22:38:02] | tgm4883: | IDK, haven't used it |
| [22:38:28] | tgm4883: | I've gone away from those types of cards, I had a pcHDTV 5500 and a HVR-1600 |
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| [22:40:19] | tvin: | tgm4883: Reason for getting away from those type of cards |
| [22:40:20] | tvin: | ? |
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| [23:00:17] | tvin: | tgm4883: Reason for getting away from those type of cards |
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| [23:08:11] | tgm4883: | tvin, I live in the US. There is a limited amount of channels you can get on those cards anymore |
| [23:08:54] | tvin: | tgm4883: And? |
| [23:09:17] | tvin: | tgm4883: Are you saying homerun is less limited in its channels? |
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| [23:10:01] | tgm4883: | tvin, the HDHR prime uses a cable card, so it can tune encrypted channels |
| [23:10:47] | tvin: | tgm4883: I don't have a problem connecting the setbox to a card or HDHR |
| [23:11:05] | tgm4883: | tvin, do you want HD? |
| [23:11:22] | tvin: | It would be nice to have that option in the future |
| [23:13:54] | tgm4883: | tvin, you basically have 3 options. 1) Get something like the HDHR and record OTA. You are limited to your local channels. 2) Get a HDHR Prime (if your provider allows cable cards), you can then tune any channel you subscribe to, provided they didn't set the CC flag on it. You can also record 3 channels at once, 3) Get a cable set top box and an HDPVR, you can record any channel you subscribe to, but you can only record one channel for every |
| [23:13:54] | tgm4883: | pair of STB and HDPVR you have. You also need to figure out how you are going to change the channel on the STB (I used firewire on mine) |
| [23:15:58] | tvin: | Prime doesn't do OTA I think though tgm4883 |
| [23:16:14] | tgm4883: | tvin, prime does not do OTA, but the HDHR (non-prime) does |
| [23:16:47] | tvin: | what is CC flag? |
| [23:17:23] | tgm4883: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_Control_Information |
| [23:21:08] | tgm4883: | alright, gotta run. Back in an hour or so |
| [23:52:27] | baggy (baggy!~baggy@baggywrinkle.demon.co.uk) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | |
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