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| [00:55:47] | freedon: | hi there |
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| [00:56:23] | freedon: | i don't have much experience with mythtv, would a raspberry pi be able to act as some sort of tv server for a network with windows computers? |
| [00:58:38] | clever: | it wouldnt have enough cpu power to reschedule quickly, and it might be a bit too low on ram |
| [00:58:47] | clever: | and myth cant play anything on the pi right now |
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| [01:05:26] | wagnerrp: | well he only wants a backend, so playback wouldn't be a big issue |
| [01:06:08] | wagnerrp: | but he does need performance, and memory, and disk storage, and support for expansion... none of which the RPi offers |
| [01:09:25] | freedon: | basically i have a hdhomerun dual and was after a quick and easy recording solution |
| [01:09:57] | freedon: | i'm currently running mediaportal using tvserver, but was after something that will allow me to record to individual computers on the network |
| [01:10:15] | wagnerrp: | record TO individual computers? i'm not sure what that means |
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| [01:10:59] | freedon: | where the actual .ts is saved |
| [01:11:25] | wagnerrp: | the actual ts is stored on the backend |
| [01:11:31] | freedon: | yeah |
| [01:11:43] | wagnerrp: | and streamed to frontends as they request it |
| [01:11:47] | clever: | which could be recording to nfs into a storage slave |
| [01:12:05] | clever: | but i would just run the backend on the box with storage then |
| [01:12:24] | wagnerrp: | (presumably one running linux) |
| [01:12:53] | freedon: | like the hdhomerun quicktv is great for just firing up and watching tv quickly, adding some type of recording functionality is all i'm after |
| [01:13:11] | freedon: | i've just been looking at mythtv today as it's been around for so long and i've never used it |
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| [01:14:16] | freedon: | on #hdhomerun i was suggested to use vlc |
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| [01:14:23] | freedon: | for what i'm describing |
| [01:15:00] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is intended more as an appliance than a simple recording application |
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| [03:36:15] | buu: | Or just buy a real computer and put mythtv on it =[ |
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| [03:58:54] | wagnerrp: | why buy a real computer when i can run mythtv an on underpowered piece of crap? |
| [03:59:01] | [R]: | wagnerrp++ |
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| [04:59:00] | edman007: | anyone try mythfrontend on a raspberry pi? Does it work? |
| [04:59:24] | edman007: | I got mostly just OTA the mpeg2 streams (fairly high bitrate) |
| [05:00:45] | clever: | 29 20:58:47 < clever> and myth cant play anything on the pi right now |
| [05:02:19] | edman007: | :( |
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| [05:34:45] | wagnerrp: | was there some black friday deal on those things? |
| [05:35:00] | wagnerrp: | everyone gets their new RPi and wants to run mythtv on it? |
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| [15:43:25] | wagnerrp: | ugh... why must people continue to try to backport tmdb3.py |
| [15:43:34] | wagnerrp: | i mean it's not like it's even a difficult task |
| [15:43:55] | wagnerrp: | just grab the upstream library, install it, and point the grabber at its new location |
| [15:44:02] | wagnerrp: | should be all of about two minutes |
| [15:44:04] | wagnerrp: | but... why? |
| [15:50:27] | skd5aner: | 'cause... 'merica! |
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| [15:58:01] | nasa01: | Hi, I'm having an issue with flagging commercials... Using mythweb, I don't see my shows being flagged and backend status has a long list of queued jobs (including flagging). I didn't see anything of interest in the logs. |
| [15:59:20] | wagnerrp: | do you have a backend allowed to run commercial flagging? |
| [16:01:01] | nasa01: | the checkbox for it is clicked in mythtv-setup... |
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| [16:02:45] | wagnerrp: | did you run mythtv-setup on your backend when setting that? |
| [16:03:48] | nasa01: | Yes. |
| [16:05:42] | nasa01: | I run mythtv-setup as root, the backend is running under a user mythtv and mythfrontend is running under a user htpc (not sure how I ended up with that) |
| [16:06:03] | nasa01: | Would that cause a permissions problem? |
| [16:06:11] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup should always run as the same user that runs mythbackend |
| [16:06:29] | wagnerrp: | but for jobs, that shouldn't be an issue |
| [16:06:43] | nasa01: | Ok |
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| [16:49:43] | mengoshmink: | <wagnerrp> mythtv-setup should always run as the same user that runs mythbackend << really? I didn't know that |
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| [17:20:14] | edman007: | hey, I'm trying to get an idea for HW specs required to run mythfrontend with 1080p video... ram/cpu/vid card... would GMA 3650 and a 1.6GHz atom be doable? 2GB ram is probably good...right? |
| [17:20:46] | [R]: | atom sucks |
| [17:20:49] | [R]: | and can't decode crap |
| [17:22:55] | tgm4883: | edman007, I'm starting to get feeds that my atom frontend can't decode. I wouldn't put a new one in |
| [17:23:47] | edman007: | alright, thanks for the info then... i3 is probably MUCH better i take it? |
| [17:24:16] | tgm4883: | I believe an i3 would be fine. I'm building a new system that has an i5 in it (I plan on using it for some gaming too) |
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| [18:04:53] | wagnerrp: | mengoshmink: there are certain tests that mythtv-setup performs, to ensure permissions are set properly and such |
| [18:05:08] | wagnerrp: | those can only operate as expected if run as the correct user and environment |
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| [18:06:03] | mengoshmink: | not saying its right but my mythbackend is run by the service, started by root |
| [18:06:51] | wagnerrp: | just because it is started by root does not necessarily mean it will continue to run as root |
| [18:07:07] | wagnerrp: | however it's worth noting that very few things should ever run as root |
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| [18:07:44] | mengoshmink: | and the mythsetup is run by my user account, never knowingly had a problem |
| [18:07:58] | mengoshmink: | indeed, thats why I never ran mythsetup as root |
| [18:08:29] | mengoshmink: | root 10956 0.7 1.2 1764856 71564 ? Ssl Nov27 31:54 /usr/bin/mythbackend --daemon --logpath /var/log/mythtv/ --pidfile /var/run/mythbackend.pid |
| [18:08:38] | mengoshmink: | seems root is running my backend |
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| [18:13:07] | edman007: | mengoshmink, well if I were you I'd configure it not to... it's just good pratice (mainly because is something goes bad, or it get's hacked/etc, running as root means you could end up with a foobar system) |
| [18:13:43] | wagnerrp: | it's just good practice to give applications no more access than they need |
| [18:14:05] | mengoshmink: | yes, I understand, I never run as root unless necessary |
| [18:14:30] | mengoshmink: | so mythbackend should be run as a user and mythsetup as root? |
| [18:17:29] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend and mythtv-setup should be run as the same user |
| [18:17:41] | edman007: | mengoshmink, no... myth setup as the user mythbackend runs as (the default config locations are user dependent) |
| [18:17:50] | wagnerrp: | it should have as much of the same environment as possible |
| [18:18:30] | wagnerrp: | so if your init script manipulates your environment before running mythbackend, there should be a similar wrapper to make the same environmental changes before running mythtv-setup |
| [18:19:11] | mengoshmink: | sounds like I need to read up on how to change the user, the startup script uses |
| [18:19:39] | wagnerrp: | ideally, the init script should provide a mechanism to change users |
| [18:19:53] | wagnerrp: | if not, mythbackend has command line arguments to do so |
| [18:21:09] | mengoshmink: | hmm, interesting |
| [18:21:20] | mengoshmink: | just opened: /etc/init.d/mythbackend |
| [18:21:31] | mengoshmink: | # Does not work on Red Hat, do to to missing audio/video groups. |
| [18:21:31] | mengoshmink: | # daemon --user mythtv $binary $OPTIONS |
| [18:21:31] | mengoshmink: | daemon $binary $OPTIONS |
| [18:22:33] | wagnerrp: | so add the groups and adjust your udev rules to create the device nodes with the proper permissions |
| [18:23:09] | mengoshmink: | never looked that much into udev but there is a 1st need and time for everything |
| [18:24:59] | mengoshmink: | well, I don't think I'm going to do this now, currently trying to do something totally different |
| [18:25:18] | mengoshmink: | but I will add it into the todo list and try not to break my setup |
| [18:25:39] | mengoshmink: | I guess I shouldnt "trust" 3rd party rpm's as much I have |
| [18:35:48] | mengoshmink: | for future reference is there anywhere I could read up (other than google) on setting mythtvbackend to be run as a user and associated udev stuff for the /dev/dvb... ? |
| [18:38:17] | wagnerrp: | there's "mythbackend --help user", but that doesn't really give much useful information |
| [18:38:54] | wagnerrp: | http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#ownership |
| [18:39:17] | wagnerrp: | all you need to do is configure the rule that creates those device nodes to specify a group and mode |
| [18:39:45] | wagnerrp: | if they're currently set to root, then there should be no issue setting them to some group |
| [18:40:10] | wagnerrp: | then just add the mythtv user (or whatever user will be accessing those devices) to that group |
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| [18:41:07] | mengoshmink: | I can see this being fairly straight forward, when I give it time |
| [18:41:39] | mengoshmink: | only change I need to make is to use udev on /dev/dvb.... not /dev/video... |
| [18:41:41] | mengoshmink: | thanks |
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| [18:41:49] | mengoshmink: | I'll store the info for ron |
| [18:42:09] | mengoshmink: | now I need to help cook dinner and try and work out a "basic" electronic circuit |
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| [19:50:36] | [R]: | if you ahve to ask... you shodu'nt be touching the database |
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