Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Monday, November 25th, 2013, 00:00 UTC

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qu:

What's an NUC?

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qu:

National Unicycle Convention? Neglected and underutilized crops? North University of China?

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Led-Hed:

all three

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Led-Hed:

no. Intel NUC (Next Unit Computing)

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Led-Hed:

I thinl

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Led-Hed:

think

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qu:

meh, regular Asus mobo here.

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Led-Hed:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102004

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qu:

Well it doesn't look like it'd have hardware video decoding.

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Led-Hed:

XBMC users report about 20% CPU load when decoding h.264

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Led-Hed:

Dual Core 1.1 GHz Sandy Bridge CPU

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qu:

Must have then. But I'll bet it's pegged on commercial flagging, if it does it locally.

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Led-Hed:

I com flag on the backend

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Led-Hed:

and net boot the FE

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luke_:

I am running mythbuntu 12.04. i have ran through the setup but my frontend cannot connect to my backend, and i do not know how to set up my PVR-350 capture card correctly

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Led-Hed:

luke_, PVR-350? Thats on old card.

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qu:

My htpc is also the home server, so it has to be able to sling some hash.

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Led-Hed:

ahh. My backend is virtualized, running in a closet

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luke_:

Led-Hed: i should still be able to use it right? ive heard of people using it thats why i bought it

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Led-Hed:

FE's are all fanless Mini-ITX.

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Led-Hed:

luke_, its still supported, but it can't handle HD TV

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luke_:

Led-Hed: i dont need HD tv. all i really want is to record some shows and play them back on my tv

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Led-Hed:

there is so little SD/Analog TV content anymore

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Led-Hed:

luke_, so whats your issue?

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Led-Hed:

luke_, have you done any basic troubleshooting? For example, can you ping the Backend from the Front End?

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Led-Hed:

or vice versa

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darkdrgn2k:

does Ugoos UM2 support myth, or is there a similar device that will do it?

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[R]:

what is ugoos um2

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darkdrgn2k:

HDMI usb stick

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darkdrgn2k:

comes with android 4.2 i think

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darkdrgn2k:

8 gig flash 2 gig ddr3 ram...

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darkdrgn2k:

http://linuxgizmos.com/hdmi-stick-mini-pc-run . . . m-cortex-a9/

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[R]:

myth doesnt run on android

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[R]:

there are some 3rd party android programs

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[R]:

but tahts about it

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darkdrgn2k:

well , wonderin if it can be re-flashed with nix

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darkdrgn2k:

or if ther eis somethign else similar (small factor front end)

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[R]:

no

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[R]:

no

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[R]:

hardware like that is garbage

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darkdrgn2k:

whats wrong with somethign liek that for a frontend?

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[R]:

its garbage

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darkdrgn2k:

how so?

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[R]:

because arm sucks

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[R]:

and their gpus are always propreitary

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darkdrgn2k:

but its such a "convinent" size

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[R]:

and?

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darkdrgn2k:

is there anything out there that could run myth

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[R]:

sure, anythign with a powerful x86/x86_64 cpu and/or a decent video card

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darkdrgn2k:

but anything small form factor thats affordable?

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[R]:

nothign tiny like that has an x86

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darkdrgn2k:

i hate how ramptid xmbc is getting :(

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darkdrgn2k:

rampid..

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[R]:

i'm sorry?

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darkdrgn2k:

never mind :(

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plut0:

can anyone tell me why my recording died if i supply a log?

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[R]:

how can anyone know why before they see the log

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plut0:

where can i upload the log?

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[R]:

pastebin...

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plut0:

[R]: i think it may be too big for pastebin with the extra logging i have turned on

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[R]:

then you are including irrelvant information

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plut0:

[R]: i was told turn this on to help debug this specific issue...

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[R]:

any amount of verbose logging would be just fine for pastebin assuming you aren't icnlduig everythign for the past 5 days

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plut0:

[R]: its only 10 minutes of logs

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plut0:

but a lot of spam

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[R]:

it doesnt take 10 minutes to fail

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plut0:

i can just paste the minute of log where it failed

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plut0:

[R]: http://pastebin.com/gEm494Xp

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plut0:

[R]: the recording stopped 8:37 minutes in the hour

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[R]:

8:37 minutes in the hour?

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plut0:

8 minutes 37 seconds

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[R]:

huh?

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plut0:

this it maybe? Nov 24 21:08:37 cronus mythlogserver: mythbackend[8526]: D TaskQueue msocketdevice_unix.cpp:257 (close) MSocketDevice::close: Closed socket 92

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[R]:

mytlogserver is irrelvent to recordings

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plut0:

thats the backend logs

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[R]:

hrm, looks like the hdhr might have close dit

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plut0:

the backend status says its still recording even though it died at 8:37

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plut0:

and the tuner is still on that channel

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plut0:

[R]: any ideas?

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[R]:

[07:33:52] [R] hrm, looks like the hdhr might have close dit

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plut0:

[R]: why?

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[R]:

how should i know

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plut0:

[R]: so you don't think its an issue on mythtv's end?

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[R]:

it might be

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plut0:

[R]: how can i continue troubleshooting?

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[R]:

post to the mailing lsit

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plut0:

[R]: ok

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plut0:

[R]: similar issue but 0.27 version, http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11927

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plut0:

i'm on 0.26

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[R]:

did your backend segfault?

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plut0:

[R]: where might I checked that? i don't see any indication on dmesg

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plut0:

the master didn't

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plut0:

its still running

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[R]:

did yoru backend crash?

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[R]:

sounds like it didnt

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[R]:

therefore its not the same issue

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plut0:

kk

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[R]:

so i would say upgrade

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[R]:

cuz 26 is ancient

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plut0:

[R]: is 0.27 marked stable now?

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[R]:

27 has been out for some time

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plut0:

yeah not what i asked though

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[R]:

"marked stable" means nothing

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plut0:

e.g. stable released vs. development release

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[R]:

there are only 1 type of releases

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plut0:

k i found it, marked stable 9/13/13

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[R]:

it wasn't "marked stable"

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[R]:

it was released

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plut0:

[R]: i will try upgrading to 0.27

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skd5aner:

plut0: 0.27 is "mostly" stable...

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skd5aner:

and it is recommended for general use

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skd5aner:

do you run a seperate slave backend too?

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skd5aner:

if so, then #11927 might impact you... if not, then most other problems are fairly minor and hundreds of fixes/improvements are in 0.27 that aren't in 0.26...

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** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11927 **

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plut0:

skd5aner: you were helping me debug an issue the other night with recordings failing intermittently

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plut0:

skd5aner: i just upgraded to 0.27 so we'll see how that works

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plut0:

skd5aner: just 1 master backend

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__raven_:

hi

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__raven_:

any library of webtv and webradio available?

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__raven_:

any library of webtv and webradio available?

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beadle:

I was having trouble with 0.27 GetPreviewImage() and realized I needed to subst a space with a 'T'. That seems to work for 0.26 also. I don't have 0.25 to try, but anyone know if the starttime format

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beadle:

for 0.25 supports 'yyyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss' ?

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beadle:

I was having trouble with 0.27 GetPreviewImage() and realized I needed to subst a space with a 'T'. That seems to work for 0.26 also. I don't have 0.25 to try, but anyone know if the starttime format

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beadle:

for 0.25 supports 'yyyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss' ?

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__raven:

any library of webradio and webtv available?

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Chicago:

Out of curiosity, why doesn't mythtv-video recognize extension .udf as DVD-VIDEO the same as .iso?

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__raven:

livetv extreme problems: suddenly freezing and crashinbg to black – whats that and how to solve

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Chicago:

analog or digital input?

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__raven:

Chicago, digital

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__raven:

Chicago, its suddenly at the same time on two frontends

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Chicago:

my gut says you have signal trouble – what can you do to test the signal from somewhere else?

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__raven:

Chicago, signal is fine

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__raven:

as i said it appears on two systems with two frontends on different muxes and different receivers

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Chicago:

what does the frontend matter?

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Chicago:

The backend records the stream.

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__raven:

i now tried a faster system and it still happens

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__raven:

i told you about TWO FRONTENDS playing live tv and crashing at the same time

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Chicago:

exactly

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Chicago:

^^

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__raven:

i cannot find anything in the logfiles what could explain this problem

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Chicago:

playback for recordings is fine?

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__raven:

no but thats another issue

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__raven:

signal quality of all recordings is fine but it misses 50 to 60 % of all schedules

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Chicago:

what did you change since the last time all was working satisfactorily?

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__raven:

it never worked without any small issues

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__raven:

but its getting bigger

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Chicago:

which version are you using for mythtv and the plugins?

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__raven:

0.26

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Chicago:

I'd give 0.27 a whirl.

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Chicago:

seems like you're having a rough time of it with 0.26.

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__raven:

ill try

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Chicago:

backup your database

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__raven:

how?

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__raven:

i have only command line

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__raven:

no more graphic

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Chicago:

mysqldump

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__raven:

Chicago, there was a ppa for ubuntu?

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Chicago:

?

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__raven:

Chicago, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mythbuntu/0.27 ?

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__raven:

it sais thats incorrect

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tgm4883:

I've never seen that as an error message

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__raven:

Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:mythbuntu'.

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__raven:

Please check that the PPA name or format is correct.

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tgm4883:

__raven, what version of ubuntu

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__raven:

oh just a moment

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Chicago:

__raven, I recommend Gentoo for mythtv

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Chicago:

just my cup of tea

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gizmobay:

Anyone using the MyMote app for remote control on an ipad using 0.27?

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__raven_:

Chicago: nothing changed with 0.27

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Chicago:

try vlc to watch something directly

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__raven_:

vlc now is a frontend to watch live tv from a mythbackend?

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Chicago:

no, use vlc to directly hit your tuner

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__raven_:

that is not what mythtv is intended to

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Chicago:

MythTV is supposed to work – yours is not – we're ruling out MythTV as the problem.

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__raven_:

you're wrong

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** Chicago is usually right. **

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__raven_:

all other things are sorted out so tell me where to look in the logfiles

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Chicago:

did you follow my instructions and do a mysqldump – in order to start with a clean mythconverg database?

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__raven_:

yes

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Chicago:

then a tail -n 300 on the backend log would be interesting to see from when you start a livetv recording

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Chicago:

you can dpaste it

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Chicago:

if your frontend doesn't have its playback setup correctly that could cause the screen to go black, freezing and crashing

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__raven_:

not today anymore

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tgm4883:

__raven_, it seems to me that you are here asking for help, yet you won't do valid troubleshooting steps

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plut0:

can someone help troubleshoot an issue i'm having with recordings intermittently stopping? i'm on 0.27. I see this in the logs, mythbackend: mythbackend[10841]: D TaskQueue msocketdevice_unix.cpp:257 (close) MSocketDevice::close: Closed socket 88

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plut0:

skd5aner: you around?

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plut0:

i think i just found the issue

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