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Monday, November 18th, 2013, 00:23 UTC
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[01:10:03] plut0: is there a fix for recordings randomly ending? i'm using mythtv 0.26 with hdhomerun prime on firmware 20130328.
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[01:47:14] plut0: wagnerrp: you must know, you have all the answers :)
[01:47:47] tonsofpcs: ok, so I accidentally managed to add channels when I treid pulling the sd listings manually over. How can I remove those channels now?
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[01:49:53] ctmjr: tonsofpcs, either in mythweb or better yet mythbackend > channel editor
[01:49:53] wagnerrp: i actually know little about cablecard tuners
[01:50:20] wagnerrp: my two guesses are... another machine on your network started pulling from that tuner, and since mythtv does not lock HDHR tuners, that machine took mythtv's tuner
[01:50:32] ctmjr: mythbackend = mythtv-setup
[01:50:34] plut0: wagnerrp: why do my recordings mysteriously end?
[01:50:47] plut0: wagnerrp: nothing else touches the tuners besides mythtv
[01:50:51] wagnerrp: or... the CCI flag changed mid-stream, causing the cablecard tuner to terminate the recording
[01:51:04] wagnerrp: any DLNA devices on the network?
[01:51:42] plut0: wagnerrp: don't think so
[01:51:58] wagnerrp: newer firmwares will expose the tuners over DLNA, and a device could have grabbed one
[01:52:23] plut0: i don't have devices that would do that
[01:52:44] ** wagnerrp wonders if there's a way to get Windows to use a UTC clock **
[01:53:07] plut0: wagnerrp: could the EIT flag be screwing it up?
[01:53:25] wagnerrp: there is no EIT data from cable
[01:53:41] wagnerrp: why would they provide EIT data, when you're supposed to be using their cable box?
[01:54:02] plut0: wagnerrp: cablecard doesn't get that info?
[01:54:19] wagnerrp: if it does, mythtv cannot access it
[01:54:27] wagnerrp: or at least does not
[01:54:49] plut0: wagnerrp: if something else was grabbing the tuner it would show up in the logs
[01:55:13] wagnerrp: mythtv would just suddenly stop receiving data, and not know why
[01:55:20] Shadow__X: plut0: have you tried it on a local broadcast?
[01:56:34] plut0: Shadow__X: not sure, its intermittent
[01:57:20] plut0: wagnerrp: nothing shows up in the logs about it failing
[01:58:03] plut0: i've seen other people mention having the same problem in here
[02:00:18] plut0: any more ideas?
[02:00:39] wagnerrp: pack up and leave town?
[02:00:46] plut0: file a bug
[02:00:47] plut0: ?
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[02:30:44] skd5aner: plut0: can you tell if the issue is that recording has pre-maturely ended, or, is playback just ending before it reaches the end of the file?
[02:31:20] skd5aner: plut0: if the recording itself is short, I would guess you could have signal quality issues, or some other random tuner or backend issue
[02:31:55] skd5aner: if playback is just stopping mid-recording, that's an entirely dfferent ball of wax, and I've seen both happen
[02:32:39] skd5aner: usually if playback is stopping mid-stream, it's because of corruption. It can also be due to load on either the frontend or backend. It can also be due to network issues
[02:32:55] plut0: skd5aner: the recording is ending early
[02:32:58] skd5aner: plut0: lots are the only thng that will really help point in the rght direction
[02:33:04] skd5aner: s/lots/logs
[02:33:52] plut0: i actually just got an error
[02:34:00] plut0: ov 17 21:31:03 cronus mythlogserver: mythbackend[4709]: W ProcessRequest mainserver.cpp:5841 (connectionClosed) MainServer: Unknown socket closing MythSocket(0x22e0b00)
[02:34:01] plut0: Nov 17 21:31:04 cronus mythlogserver: mythbackend[4709]: E ProcessRequest mythsocket.cpp:344 (writeStringList) MythSocket(22e0b00:-1): writeStringList: Error, socket went unconnected.#012#011#011#011We wrote 0 of 13 bytes with 1 errors#012#011#011#011starts with: 5 98304
[02:34:10] skd5aner: you could trying mythbackend --loglevel=debug --verbose=record
[02:34:46] skd5aner: ok, you could also do --verbose=record,socket
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[02:35:41] skd5aner: there are some socket issues in 0.27, but they seem to be not-too-common, although I have them... but they haven't shut down my recordings'
[02:35:54] skd5aner: plut0: are you usng a slave backend or just a master backend?
[02:36:09] plut0: skd5aner: master backend
[02:36:58] skd5aner: k
[02:37:05] skd5aner: how frequently is it happening?
[02:37:11] skd5aner: every time? every channel?
[02:37:24] plut0: every other day probably
[02:37:27] plut0: intermittent
[02:53:35] skd5aner: does it happen after the backend has been running for a long period of time?
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[04:04:59] skd5aner: wagnerrp: you planning on watchng "Almost Human"?
[04:05:39] wagnerrp: i plan on recording it
[04:05:52] wagnerrp: i'm flying out of town tomorrow, and will remain there until christmas
[04:10:46] skd5aner: wagnerrp: ah, well... safe travels!
[04:11:15] wagnerrp: thanks
[04:11:26] skd5aner: wagnerrp: yea, the pilot was tonight – hadn't watched it, but figured it was a JJ Abrams production so I'd give it a shot
[04:11:50] skd5aner: wagnerrp: I miss Fringe though :/
[04:11:58] wagnerrp: tonight? i thought it was some time this week
[04:12:09] wagnerrp: oh well, seems mythtv caught it
[04:12:20] wagnerrp: ah, there is another episode tomorrow
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[04:13:22] skd5aner: wagnerrp: encore?
[04:13:31] skd5aner: or ep2?
[04:13:39] ctmjr: no ep2
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[06:03:00] kichigai: Hey all. Is there a way to tell MythTV to prefer a NOT HD recording opportunity over an HD opportunity? I have a problem where our local Fox affiliate comes in really poorly, but they simulcast an SD stream off of another broadcast, and that comes in really well.
[06:03:44] kichigai: I'd prefer not to nuke the HD channel in this case, since I'm still trying to dicker around with the rabit ears to pull it in properly (fat chance, though), but if I have to...
[06:04:52] kichigai: I already have the RecPriority for the channel in question set to like -50, but no-go.
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[07:24:07] buu: Hey, anyone have any idea why mythtv thinks pulseaudi is a stereo source?
[07:24:47] [R]: because pulseaudio is garbage
[07:25:09] buu: uh
[07:25:12] buu: Yeah no
[07:25:38] [R]: lol
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[11:17:29] wagnerrp: i could see using pulseaudio as a sink, it's unadvised
[11:17:35] wagnerrp: but you're trying to use it as a source?
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[12:15:38] jm|laptop: hello :)
[12:16:13] jm|laptop: I rebuilt my libva and intel drivers from the Intel web site.
[12:16:17] jm|laptop: 2013-11–18 12:14:27.881404 E VAAPI: Error at vaapicontext.cpp:800 (#20, the requested function is not implemented)
[12:16:17] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/20 **
[12:16:26] jm|laptop: I'm getting lots of that and a blank screen :/
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[12:17:10] jm|laptop: No results found for "(#20, the requested function is not implemented)".
[12:17:10] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/20 **
[12:17:32] jm|laptop: it's normally /really/ hard to get 0 results from Google. I don't know how I manage it so frequently :/
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[14:29:47] beadle: I upgraded to 0.27 (fedora x64) with a Ceton InfiniTV-4 PCI card. I didn't find any notes in release/readme for 0.27 but it no longer recognized the card. I found a firmware update today so I'm thinking of trying again. Does anyone kinow of warnings for this card that I should observe?
[14:30:30] beadle: try again – after reverting to 0.26
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[14:39:38] beadle: I only get a Partial Lock after updating to 0.27 with the ceton card settings unchanged
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[14:46:24] beadle: updated the cards, myth makes them RTP. fetched channels, restarted backend, but same partial lock
[14:53:01] beadle: re-added the cards but no good
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[15:25:13] beadle: re-booted but the ceton infinitv 4 PCI is still not working on 0.27
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[16:16:43] jm|laptop: hello :)
[16:17:20] jm|laptop: when I'm moving through recorded programmes in "Watch Recordings" it seems a little slow
[16:17:43] jm|laptop: checking mysql.log I notice it is preparing a lot of statements each time I click up or down
[16:17:52] jm|laptop: 131118 16:17:48 136 Prepare SELECT status FROM jobqueue WHERE type = ? AND chanid = ? AND starttime = ?
[16:18:02] jm|laptop: appears to be addressing the jobqueue table
[16:21:56] jm|laptop: hmm. Actually the other front end seems to do that. But it doesn't "freeze" until the query is finished, like this frontend seems to
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[16:45:56] beadle: reverted to 0.26 b/c the ceton Infinity PCI doesn't want to work if I upgrade to 0.27
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[18:12:38] DthZig: I have a lot of live channel streams. Unencrypted so they are legal. Can i add them to mythtv and use mythtv as a backend pvr in XBMC and get EPG and PVR capability?
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[18:29:45] wfann: Good morning (at least, here it is) all.
[18:29:46] wfann: I see in the headers for the channel that 0.26.0 and 0.27.0 are both mentioned as stable releases. is this accurate?
[18:35:39] SteveGoodey: wfann: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Main_Page shows Current Stable Release: 0.27 on 18-Sep-2013
[18:37:09] wfann: Thank you Steve. I'm wondering if it would be worth the effort to upgrade my current 0.25.0 to 0.27.0.
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[18:48:58] SteveGoodey: wfann: You could look at the release notes http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.27
[18:49:32] wfann: I will. Thank you.
[18:50:18] SteveGoodey: wfann: I suppose the thing to bear in mind is the saying:- If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
[18:51:29] wfann: I'll be back later, after I read the Release Notes.
[18:51:30] wfann: And, yes, mine seems to be broke. That's why I'm thinking of the update.
[18:52:27] SteveGoodey: Ah, enough said.
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[18:56:41] wfann: BBL
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[19:17:53] bill6502: wfann: if you're upgrading from 0.25, then I'd recommend reading the 0.26 release notes as well as 0.27 (they're not cumulative.)
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[19:27:27] wfann: My installation of 0.25.0 is malfunctioning. I recorded the Pilot for "Almost Human". I was watching the recording and suddenly, from one scene to another, first a jump to a commercial, then after the commercials a jump back into the program BUT 10 MINUTES later into the program. That's 10 minutes of lost program. This seems to be happening more and more. Any thoughts?
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[20:23:20] bill6502: wfann: From the keyboard, I'd press e to enter the edit mode and then z to look at the blocks commercial detection found. Then see if it was detecting too much. Happens to me at times when there are very dark scenes.
[20:23:58] wfann: Do this while watching the program?
[20:25:49] bill6502: yes
[20:26:14] wfann: I'll try it. Thanks.
[20:27:00] bill6502: You can then use other keys/menu items to adjust/add/remove what was detected.
[20:29:06] wfann: I'll look at it. Again, thanks.
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[20:39:49] blafoo: hi, is there a known workaround for bug #11935 ?
[20:39:49] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11935 **
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[20:47:03] wfann: bill6502 – I looked at the edit option and the menue keyus but nothing I tried had any effect. Is there a how to do this article?
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[20:51:46] bill6502: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Editing_Recordings
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[20:52:21] wfann: Thanks. I'll go do some reading.
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[21:35:06] dotcomslashnet: Anyone care to help out a mythtv noob...
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[21:45:43] bill6502: dotcomslashnet: Ask a more specific question. If you have no idea where to start, try this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Index
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[22:28:00] tonsofpcs: ctmjr: thanks, I'll look there tonight.
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