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Sunday, November 17th, 2013, 00:02 UTC
[00:02:37] solars: hm it seemed that vdr blocked it
[00:02:49] solars: I can watch tv if I use the capture device in vlc
[00:03:01] solars: but I don't get a signal when using watch tv in mythfrontend
[00:03:09] solars: I guess its something in the setup
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[05:53:53] sheptard: so
[05:54:06] sheptard: can anyone reccomend an hdmi capture card that'll work with mythtv?
[05:55:30] [R]: nothing
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[05:59:07] sheptard: not even something like a blackmagic intensity pro which works under linux?
[05:59:34] sheptard: is it an issue at the v4l layer?
[06:01:05] [R]: anythign your gonna want to capture over hdmi for myth, is going to use hdcp
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[06:04:32] sheptard: lets pretend it doesn't
[06:05:19] [R]: there is no pretending
[06:05:19] [R]: it does
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[06:06:49] sheptard: how about a ViewCast Osprey 820e, it claims to support v4l2
[06:08:46] [R]: never heard of it
[06:08:47] [R]: if it implements the standards, myth should work with it
[06:09:24] sheptard: hah, but for $1800 I don't think I'll work with it.
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[08:40:23] MMlosh: Hi.. has anyone ever thought about using "sparse files / files with holes" for super-fast rough "loseless transcoding"?
[08:40:24] MMlosh: (I would be glad if someone pointed out some reasons why that would be such a bad idea)
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[14:49:04] buu: So how do I teach mythtv how to eject my cddrive?
[14:49:12] buu: Or I suppose more accurately my dvd drive
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[14:55:49] buu: And uh why did my screen setup wizard stop working? I can't seem to adjust the pictures width and height to compensate for overscan via the setup menu
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[15:09:27] MMlosh: Hi.. has anyone ever thought about using "sparse files / files with holes" for super-fast rough "loseless transcoding"?
[15:09:28] MMlosh: (I would be glad if someone pointed out some reasons why that would be such a bad idea)
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[15:10:52] buu: Oh, I need to set different ui/playback settings enabled..
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[15:11:14] buu: MMlosh: How would that increase the speed of transcoding?
[15:11:54] MMlosh: buu, it doesn't increase the time of the actual transcoding
[15:12:19] MMlosh: but allows me to reclaim HDD space immediately from the middles of recordings
[15:13:25] MMlosh: simply by punching holes into the media file, allowing the filesystem to remove it's unused parts
[15:14:10] MMlosh: I was observing one of those "HDD recorder" boxes and it seems to be doing exactly that. I think it's convenient
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[15:34:38] buu: MMlosh: So you'd encode.. inplace.. and leave gaps in the file where data used to be?
[15:34:45] buu: This seems moderately insane
[15:35:07] MMlosh: I would actually do even a simpler thing
[15:35:24] MMlosh: just punch holes though unused data, no real encoding
[15:36:04] MMlosh: that can be done later, (say I would then regular-transcode the file at 3AM)
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[16:56:45] buu: I'm reading the wiki and I realize this is tiny in absolute terms but this is the most overcomplicated piece of code..
[16:56:48] buu: $ cd
[16:56:50] buu: $ if [ ! -d .mythtv ] ; then mkdir .mythtv; fi; cd .mythtv;
[16:59:05] buu: Also seriously how do I eject my dvd from the menu?
[17:00:25] buu: <action>EJECT</action> ?
[17:03:30] wagnerrp: i've always just used the button on the drive
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[17:56:04] mengoshmink: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_ . . . oNquln4#t=51 << how I eject CD's
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[18:08:38] wfann: Is there some kind of utility that I can use to read the log of my conversations here? I followed the link to the log that I did yesterday, but it is cumbersome and comes up in GEDIT. (Which is in and of itself cumbersome).
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[18:14:21] wagnerrp: !url logs
[18:14:22] MythLogBot: logs: http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1
[18:14:28] wagnerrp: wfann: ^^^
[18:14:50] wfann: Thanks. I'll look there.
[18:15:29] wagnerrp: if you have local logs (which would make sense if you opened them in gedit), they will likely be less cumbersome than reading them off a web page
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[18:17:18] wfann: You're right. I was hoping for a utility that would grab my local log and display it in a more convenient format. But – at need the URL will suffice. Thank you.
[18:17:48] wagnerrp: what would be a more convenient format?
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[18:18:58] wfann: Something in the form of a word document (I use Open Office so Word isn't exactly correct).
[18:19:48] wagnerrp: so... open it in open office
[18:19:57] wagnerrp: it's just a plain text file
[18:20:04] wagnerrp: any text editor will have no trouble loading it
[18:21:20] wfann: As long as I have the path name I can do that. I suppose that what I was envisioning is a utility that would re-direct the log and format it in some more convenient manner. I guess I didn't think it through sufficiently.
[18:21:25] ** tgm4883 wonders how openoffice is better than gedit for looking at a log file **
[18:25:16] wfann: tgm4883 – Open Office wouldn't necessarily be better. It would allow formatting that a simple text file doesn't do. In any event I can grab the txt file from GEDIT and deal with it manually. I was just hoping that someone might have automated the process already.
[18:25:40] wagnerrp: but format it how?
[18:25:58] tgm4883: wfann, yea, you aren't exactly explaining anything here. How do you want it formatted?
[18:26:22] wagnerrp: at best, i could see a spreadsheet editor being best
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[18:26:32] pmmd: hi
[18:26:36] wagnerrp: since it would have some logic to break things up into columns, and have "intelligent" word wrapping
[18:28:04] wfann: I have a memory swiming about in the back of my mind. I believe that it was way back in the AOL days. I could set colors and fonts to different participants in the log file. I could also save the files in a "LOG" folder that was easy to reach. If I recall it was a GUI utility and easy to use.
[18:29:36] wagnerrp: it would be fairly easy to break the log file into a database, and generate a web page looking like what you describe
[18:29:55] wagnerrp: that's basically all MythLogBot does, except it logs directly to a database, and skips any log files
[18:31:18] pmmd: is someone here want to explain me or know a good instruction how to setup and install mythtv backend for livetv with xbmc on opensuse?
[18:31:20] wfann: wagnerrp – that hadn't occurred to me, but you're right.
[18:32:00] wfann: Well folks. I am summoned to a family gathering. I must away. Thanks for your thoughts. TTFN
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[19:27:52] ctmjr: pmmd, mythtv comes with a frontend to watch live tv why do you want xbmc
[19:30:04] pmmd: because xbmc is running on my ouya and I want to stream from my server to this and other xbmc devices in my flat
[19:30:50] Korny: uggg part of me wishes there was a way to break xbmc pvr function wiht mythtv, half the questions it seems to be about why xbmc pvr doesn't work right lol
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[19:31:41] Korny: but to answer your question pmmd the backend setup is the exact same
[19:32:22] Korny: when you setup xbmc you need to input the database name and password
[19:32:40] Korny: into the cmyth plugin.
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[20:11:10] buu: pmmd: xbmc works awfully with mythv
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[22:45:01] willem_: hi all
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[22:45:35] willem_: since a couple of days, I notice that moving up and down the recordings list has become terribly slow...
[22:45:44] willem_: anyone recognizes this?
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[22:50:24] Hydr0p0nX: I see the problem across the wireless willem_
[22:50:32] Hydr0p0nX: not locally though, what version are you running?
[22:50:57] willem_: latest version, 0.27
[22:51:25] willem_: I'm running a separate frontend in the living room
[22:51:31] willem_: wired network
[22:51:49] Hydr0p0nX: i don't see that problem on .26 unless i'm accessing across the wireless
[22:52:00] Hydr0p0nX: not at or near disk capacity are you?
[22:52:09] wagnerrp: is it stalling to generate thumbnails or other artwork for your content?
[22:52:30] wagnerrp: is this a local disk or network boot? how fast is your network?
[22:52:53] willem_: consistantly at disk capacity, but that has never been a problem (the recording disks, that is)
[22:53:12] willem_: local disk and a Gb network
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[23:05:02] skd5aner: willem_: do you have a slave backend in the mix?
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[23:05:57] willem_: no slaves, just a one to one backend – frontend
[23:06:26] wagnerrp: anyone know what this "core setup" is?
[23:06:28] skd5aner: I've seen similiar behavior, and one of the devs thinks it might be an issue with the sockets...
[23:06:36] wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=AirTunes/Air . . . p;rcid=77527
[23:06:46] wagnerrp: did that get renamed or something?
[23:06:52] skd5aner: willem_: when it's happening, what does top show for mythbackend and mysql on your master backend?
[23:07:33] skd5aner: wagnerrp: no such setting (in english)... maybe it's a translation?
[23:08:18] wagnerrp: seems its the Norwegian translation
[23:08:20] skd5aner: it's under "Setup" | General
[23:12:31] willem_: top shows not much activity
[23:12:48] willem_: mysql comes up when I move to another line
[23:12:59] willem_: getting the recording detials, I presume
[23:13:23] willem_: I'll have a look if there is anything wierd with the network
[23:13:29] willem_: thanks for now...
[23:13:58] willem_: at least it seems that for no-one this brings anything directly to mind...
[23:14:53] skd5aner: willem_: fyi, I use htop
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[23:14:58] skd5aner: oh, and he's gone
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