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| [01:20:51] | jya__: | wagnerrp: can you mix pkg_add with new pkng stuff? |
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| [01:56:18] | wagnerrp: | have not use the new pkgng stuff |
| [01:56:35] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, the only time i use packages at all is on my geode firewall |
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| [02:41:02] | jya__: | reason I ask is that haven't managed a way to install gnome2; it tells me that the package doesn't exist; yet pkg_add can do it just fine. |
| [02:41:28] | jya__: | but according to the documentation, you should stop using pkg_* once you start using pkng |
| [02:41:46] | wagnerrp: | i always just build everything |
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| [03:19:34] | sheptard: | wagnerrp: compiling on a geode a little too painful? |
| [03:23:49] | wagnerrp: | insufficient memory to even attempt it |
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| [03:29:08] | sheptard: | pff, just hit that swap file |
| [03:29:41] | wagnerrp: | would need to run network swap |
| [03:29:54] | wagnerrp: | actually, i've been meaning to rebuild that thing |
| [03:29:59] | wagnerrp: | it's still running 7.0 |
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| [03:30:20] | wagnerrp: | the initial image was built on a dual P3 |
| [03:30:45] | sheptard: | with ipf? |
| [03:31:54] | wagnerrp: | pf |
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| [03:32:29] | sheptard: | phew |
| [03:32:49] | sheptard: | I tried to use ipf once, then decided I'd be better off watching paint dry |
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| [05:41:08] | Blue1: | hello |
| [05:41:24] | Blue1: | I am trying to autostart mythbackend in rc.local — http://pastebin.com/z0KuYERF but it never executes the command. I see that it enters the script in /var/log/messages but it never goes any further |
| [05:42:08] | [R]: | turn on the log to file option and see the errors |
| [05:42:17] | bill6502: | LANG=$LANG /usr/local/bin/mythbackend --quiet --logpath /var/log/mythtv --user mythtv |
| [05:44:14] | Blue1: | mythbackend starts, it just doesn't start at bootup. |
| [05:44:57] | bill6502: | Blue1: Good. Let's look at the log and see why. |
| [05:46:03] | bill6502: | Actually, I've never seen anyone start the backend from rc.local. Not sure that it's wrong, but it's important that everything else is up, e.g. the network, tuner card modules loaded... |
| [05:46:15] | bill6502: | What distribution are you running? |
| [05:46:45] | Blue1: | debian wheezy 64 bit |
| [05:46:57] | bill6502: | Do you have Upstart? |
| [05:47:11] | Blue1: | since I don't know what that is, I will say no. |
| [05:47:20] | bill6502: | ls -l /etc/init |
| [05:47:57] | bill6502: | Any files ending in .conf there? |
| [05:48:00] | Blue1: | that appears NOT to be present |
| [05:48:15] | Blue1: | there are several conf files there |
| [05:48:27] | bill6502: | OK. |
| [05:49:11] | bill6502: | Then this is a good way to start the backend: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Upstart_mythbackend_Configuration |
| [05:49:14] | Blue1: | i undid my rc.local thing btw |
| [05:50:15] | Blue1: | seems complicated |
| [05:51:30] | bill6502: | Copy and paste it as is and choose: ARGS="--logpath /var/log/mythtv" for note 4 (remove the other 2 logging options.) |
| [05:52:59] | bill6502: | Although it assumes that you have: /etc/default/locale, if not, set LANG=en_US.UTF-8 (or whatever yours is.) |
| [05:54:01] | Blue1: | give me a min. I have to go back and re-edit |
| [05:58:46] | Blue1: | okay that seems to be already present |
| [05:59:42] | bill6502: | can you pastebin the file? |
| [06:00:10] | bill6502: | or: pastebinit /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf (or whatever yours is called.) |
| [06:00:12] | Blue1: | yes, but I see an error in the file aready |
| [06:00:37] | Blue1: | is is trying to execute /usr/bin/ and the file is in /usr/local/bin |
| [06:02:53] | Blue1: | it is here: |
| [06:02:55] | Blue1: | http://pastebin.com/eArvktH2 |
| [06:03:00] | bill6502: | ps ax|grep mythbackend|grep -v grep |
| [06:03:27] | bill6502: | ^^^ make sure there isn't a backend running, I'll look at the pastebin |
| [06:03:41] | Blue1: | thanks |
| [06:04:10] | Blue1: | there was no backend running, b/c the path was wrong /usr/local/bin vs /usr/bin |
| [06:04:29] | bill6502: | sudo start mythtv-backend |
| [06:05:06] | bill6502: | sudo stop mythtv-backend is the proper way to stop it. |
| [06:06:06] | Blue1: | hmm I thought that would be s ervice let me try. |
| [06:06:58] | Blue1: | yeha what I thought start is not found |
| [06:07:45] | bill6502: | That may work (if you have entries in /etc/init.d,) but just ends up doing what I mentioned, so you'll save a few microseconds with the above. |
| [06:08:40] | Blue1: | well it errors as indicated -- |
| [06:09:17] | Blue1: | sudo start mythtv-backend |
| [06:09:17] | Blue1: | sudo: start: command not found |
| [06:10:06] | bill6502: | Not good. Just wasted a bunch of time. Thought you said there were .conf files in /etc/init. |
| [06:11:19] | bill6502: | Does: ps ax|grep upstart|grep -v grep show that upstart is running? |
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| [06:14:30] | bill6502: | If not, you'll have to find the method your distribution uses to start things. If that's /etc/init.d/.............., then you can craft an entry there. |
| [06:15:16] | bill6502: | You should end up running the command as I pasted before: |
| [06:15:19] | bill6502: | LANG=$LANG /usr/local/bin/mythbackend --quiet --logpath /var/log/mythtv --user mythtv |
| [06:15:47] | Blue1: | yes, there are conf file in /etc/init udev.conf, networking.conf, etc |
| [06:16:50] | bill6502: | Did the ps ax|grep upstart|grep -v grep show that upstart is running? |
| [06:16:58] | Blue1: | upstart does NOT appear to be running. |
| [06:17:20] | bill6502: | OK, this should help: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Startup_Scripts |
| [06:17:38] | bill6502: | Pick the one that your distribution uses. |
| [06:18:09] | bill6502: | I'm (obviously) an Upstart user, and won't be of much help for the others. |
| [06:18:42] | Blue1: | yup that is running mythbackend as expected. |
| [06:19:33] | Blue1: | It's okay I learned a new way I am not fam. with upstart — I normally just put it in rc.local and away I go — but I have never done with debian...I always had ubuntu till they went to unity |
| [06:21:39] | bill6502: | There's an error in: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debian_init.d_mythbackend, it still references: LOGFILE=/var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log, which should be a directory. |
| [06:22:27] | bill6502: | Or, you could replace --logpath with --syslog. The Upstart script may not work for you, but the options are correct. |
| [06:22:47] | bill6502: | I'm off to bed. Good luck. |
| [06:22:53] | Blue1: | okay |
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| [06:30:21] | bill6502: | Blue1: Make sure you change /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf to /etc/init/mythtv-backend.off, just in case your distro ever gets upstart (so you don't have two instances of it running.) |
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| [07:36:31] | linuxlite1969: | when running dmesg | grep saa7 , i get at the last line the following message "saa7134[0]/dvb: frontend initialization failed" |
| [07:37:04] | linuxlite1969: | very thing else look fine, looks like driver is loaded |
| [07:37:55] | linuxlite1969: | anyone can give me some pointers, where to look next? why the initialization failed? |
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| [08:03:33] | MMlosh: | Hi.. has anyone ever thought about using "sparse files / files with holes" for super-fast rough "loseless transcoding"? |
| [08:04:25] | MMlosh: | (I would be glad if someone pointed out some reasons why that would be such a bad idea) |
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| [11:20:02] | Orcie: | lo |
| [11:20:10] | Orcie: | Someone there who can give me a hand?\ |
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| [11:55:37] | solars: | hey, I keep getting: MythCoreContext: Connecting to backend server: 192.168.0.35:6543 (try 1 of 1) Connection to master server timed out. – but my backend is on 192.168.1.13 (also in config.xml) .. how can I fix this? |
| [12:01:50] | natanojl: | solars: It's the database IP that is in config.xml |
| [12:02:35] | solars: | on the backend? |
| [12:03:40] | natanojl: | solars: On any host running mythbackend or mythfrontend |
| [12:04:16] | solars: | frontend and backend are 2 different machines.. |
| [12:04:23] | natanojl: | solars: The master server IP is specified in the frontend settings and in mythtv-setup for backends |
| [12:05:15] | solars: | alright I will check |
| [12:09:37] | natanojl: | solars: Sorry, I haven't had any coffe yet :) You should probably run mythtv-setup on your master backend and check that the IP is correct there |
| [12:12:29] | solars: | alright :) thanks a lot |
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| [20:32:54] | NewBuntu81-2: | Has anyone tried one of those ClearStream antennas? Was curious how well they work. The reviews on Best Buy look good. |
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| [21:12:30] | wfann: | I am trying to get some info on my system together in a useful form before I ask for help with my MythTV issue. I can't seem to get the screen shots to load into pastebin. Is there another way to provide this info to someone who is trying to help me with my MythTV issues? |
| [21:16:34] | wagnerrp: | you could just describe your issue first |
| [21:19:05] | wfann: | OK. When I play back a recording on some recordings (TV programs that is) I'll get a pixilation and anywhere from 15 seconds to two minutes of lost data from the recording. It just jumps from ones place to another in the time line. |
| [21:19:34] | wagnerrp: | broadcast recordings? |
| [21:19:51] | wfann: | Cable TV (comcast). |
| [21:20:01] | wagnerrp: | clearqam or cablecard? |
| [21:20:31] | wfann: | Comcast cable box. Premium (HD) channels. |
| [21:20:41] | wagnerrp: | cable box? so you're doing analog capture? |
| [21:21:48] | wfann: | OH! my error. I'm using an HDHR-Prime, 3 recording head box to feed the MythTV computer. And yes, it is a cablecard device. |
| [21:22:04] | wagnerrp: | how many total devices do you have running off cable? |
| [21:22:16] | wfann: | 2 |
| [21:22:27] | wagnerrp: | should be plenty of signal for just two devices... |
| [21:22:44] | wagnerrp: | you don't have an amp in there do you? |
| [21:22:53] | wfann: | Yes. I have a line booster in the cable. |
| [21:23:03] | wagnerrp: | you're probably running the line too hot |
| [21:23:06] | wagnerrp: | try removing it |
| [21:23:15] | wfann: | I think it's a 10 Db unit. |
| [21:23:50] | wagnerrp: | cable feeds are usually powered to handle several units without needing amplification |
| [21:24:04] | wagnerrp: | you shouldn't even consider it until you have 6+ devices |
| [21:24:06] | wfann: | BTW. This problem didn't exist a few months ago. I had it some months before and I put a better videocard in the computer. That fixed the issue. |
| [21:25:05] | wfann: | Now it seems to be happening again. |
| [21:33:32] | wfann: | A bit of extra data: I can be running as many as three or four computers plus the Comcast Cable box, all at the same time. I also have the complete digital package; phone, TV cable, and Internet. It all goes over the same coax. |
| [21:33:53] | wagnerrp: | yes, but you only have the two devices actually on the coax |
| [21:33:57] | wagnerrp: | your cable modem, and the HDHR |
| [21:34:45] | wfann: | And the Comcast box. |
| [21:35:33] | wfann: | There are a couple of splitters in the line in order to get everything hooked up. |
| [21:36:04] | wagnerrp: | so three devices, still not enough to need an amplifier |
| [21:37:37] | wfann: | OK. I understand. Comcast cable repair guys put it in some time ago. Their signal strength measurements seemed to indicate that it was warranted. But things may have changed now. |
| [21:42:16] | wfann: | NOTE: stuartm – I found the listings mode in Search>Lists that you told me about yesterday. Thank you. |
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| [21:46:41] | LTHorn: | Got my cable problem fixed. |
| [21:46:50] | LTHorn: | The M-Card was bad |
| [21:47:24] | wfann: | wagnerrp – I suspect that you have multiple conversations going on right now. But, I can't tell if our exchange is done yet. |
| [21:47:41] | wagnerrp: | nope, just the one |
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| [21:48:21] | wfann: | Hmmm. OK. does the extra data that I sent have any bearing on the issue? |
| [21:51:15] | wagnerrp: | three splits means one device at -3dB, and two devices at -6dB |
| [21:51:28] | wagnerrp: | at a +10dB, you're still running well above the input signal |
| [21:52:40] | wfann: | And what is the appropriate signal strength. It's been far to long and I've forgotten. |
| [21:53:09] | wagnerrp: | i'm speaking relative, based off what is coming in off the cable |
| [21:53:22] | wagnerrp: | there is no value in delivering signal higher than what is coming in off the cable |
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| [21:55:39] | wfann: | Does it matter that this problem is fairly new. It wasn't happening a couple of months ago. It seems to be as a result of some update in the MythTV program. I've re-loaded that several times in the last few monts. |
| [21:56:05] | wfann: | er... months... |
| [21:56:42] | wagnerrp: | if it's fairly new, it could be you've lost customers on your local segment, or you've gained them prompting comcast to boost power on the segment |
| [21:58:27] | wfann: | I understand. So the basic concept is that I have too much signal coming into my system (the 10dB amp) and that is possibly causing some kind of overload in something. Is that approximately correct? |
| [21:58:47] | wagnerrp: | that's my guess |
| [21:59:05] | wagnerrp: | you can pull up the HDHR command line utility |
| [21:59:37] | wagnerrp: | if the signal power is very high, but the signal quality is somewhat low (under 90%), it's a good chance that's the cause |
| [21:59:53] | wagnerrp: | that, or the amp or splitters are noisy |
| [22:00:06] | wagnerrp: | do you have any unterminated outputs on those splitters? |
| [22:00:37] | wfann: | I'd have to survey the system. I really don't know. |
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| [22:01:18] | wfann: | I can check the HDHR command utility. |
| [22:02:26] | wfann: | Having looked at the various suggestions, do I come back to you directly, or do I just come to the channel in general? |
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| [22:02:45] | wagnerrp: | always the channel in general |
| [22:03:09] | wfann: | Got it. How will the next guy know what we've talked about? |
| [22:03:41] | wagnerrp: | just explain the situation again |
| [22:04:32] | wfann: | OK. Thanks for your time. Bye for now. |
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| [22:29:56] | buu: | Ok how come when I configure mythtv it can *play* a dvd but it can't freaking eject it? |
| [22:30:06] | buu: | Does this require a setting in a completely different place? |
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| [23:37:43] | solars: | hey, I'm trying to install my dvb-c card, but keep getting this: https://gist.github.com/solars/d6101c717bbdf2cd9038 does anyone know what I am missing? |
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| [23:41:59] | wagnerrp: | don't know. we don't support or use w_scan |
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