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| [00:07:13] | Baylink: | Wow. So I just went in and removed the last 4 libraries under pulseaudio, and yast yanked out, without asking me, almost all of KDE4 and all of Myth itself. That was certainly fun. Sure am glad I'm running from packaging. WTF was that about? |
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| [00:18:03] | Novae: | Morning all, having some issues with building 0.26-fixes, it dies with "../../libs/libmythtv/libmythtv-0.26.so: undefined reference to `dvdnav_get_highlight_area_from_group'". |
| [00:18:24] | Novae: | Any ideas? This is on a AMD64 FreeBSD box building MythTV from ports. |
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| [00:44:38] | Baylink: | And now I've given up and reinstalled Pulse, and I still have no working sound at all. Heeelllp!! :-) Beirdo_? You got a minute? |
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| [00:46:42] | Baylink: | Well, that it isn't running isn't so bad, but that it has no service script might be rough. |
| [00:47:31] | Baylink: | Oops. Wrong prompt. |
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| [01:35:05] | buu: | wagnerrp: Yeah, I found that out, I was hoping to emulate it in my code but decided it was way too much effort |
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| [01:37:24] | buu: | wagnerrp: I'm basically planning on implementing my own mythscan as it were to load metadata and files but it'd be nice if something accidentally triggered a scan it didn't overwrite/duplicate all the existing files. |
| [02:02:46] | wagnerrp: | overwrite? |
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| [02:13:33] | jafa: | built a new mythtv set up, MythCenter (not wide) theme, 4:3 screen... playing 16:9 content the screen overlay is perfect. playing 4:3 content the screen overlay is compressed (wrong aspect ratio) |
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| [02:22:05] | jafa: | audio – using IEC digital to stereo... turned on 5.1 upconversion in mythtv and tested the 6 speakers ok, but playing stereo tv results in only haring stereo sound |
| [02:22:38] | jafa: | everything else is working great |
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| [03:10:33] | jafa: | ok, figure out the audio issue, just not how to fix it... |
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| [03:11:16] | tonsofpcs: | is there a way to pull sd data manually for a mythbackend that isn't able to reach the internet? (I'm mid-move and I don't have internet at the new place yet) |
| [03:11:24] | jafa: | channel is 5.1... adverts play 5.1, but the TV show is only using stereo... guessing it is 5.1 with only 2 channels being used |
| [03:11:57] | jafa: | mythtv thinks it is 5.1 so doesn't try to covnert it to 5.1 |
| [03:12:22] | jafa: | any thoughts on how to improve it? |
| [03:12:47] | wagnerrp: | tonsofpcs: if you have some time, SD does have two weeks of data |
| [03:13:12] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, you can download a file and force feed it to mythfilldatabase |
| [03:13:19] | wagnerrp: | i don't recall the method off hand |
| [03:16:01] | wagnerrp: | the --dd-file parameter allows you to specify a file, but i'm not sure off hand how to get that file |
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| [03:46:27] | jafa: | any ideas on how to fix the aspect ratio of the onscreen info (overlay) when playing 4:3 content? |
| [03:46:52] | jafa: | looks great for 16:9 content |
| [03:47:10] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: you see a lot of stuff users do here and on the mailing list. Any good, small all-in-one frontend options for ~$300 |
| [03:47:24] | skd5aner: | give or take |
| [03:48:05] | skd5aner: | thinking about adding one, but one a budget and want something in a sff |
| [03:48:23] | skd5aner: | s/one a/on a |
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| [03:54:02] | wagnerrp: | if $300 is the limit, this is basically the upgraded version of my primary frontend... http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishD . . . ber=28886367 |
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| [03:54:22] | wagnerrp: | although admittedly, i found the power supply on that case a bit noisy, and traded it for a picopsu |
| [03:58:20] | skd5aner: | is that the upgraded version? |
| [03:59:01] | wagnerrp: | "this is basically the upgraded version of my primary frontend" |
| [04:02:08] | skd5aner: | sorry, multitasking :( |
| [04:02:12] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [04:03:27] | skd5aner: | i read "this" as "that"... which was a bit more ambiguous. typing with one hand, baby is trying to sleep in other |
| [04:04:32] | skd5aner: | you using software decoding or a descrete vid card? |
| [04:04:48] | wagnerrp: | software |
| [04:04:56] | buu: | Anyone know anything about the coverfile | screenshot | banner | fanart; columns in videometadata? |
| [04:04:58] | wagnerrp: | not really room for discrete in that box |
| [04:05:10] | wagnerrp: | i'm not even sure if it can hold them, maybe a half-height card or something |
| [04:05:16] | wagnerrp: | buu: what about them? |
| [04:05:28] | buu: | wagnerrp: What are they supposed to contain, other than text pointing to a filename =] |
| [04:05:35] | buu: | Or more accurately, what is the file supposed to contain? |
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| [04:05:45] | wagnerrp: | an image |
| [04:06:14] | skd5aner: | I'm warry of that,,,, software nevergave me a great pq quality.... once i switched to vdpau, my pq and deinterlacing were significatly better |
| [04:06:23] | buu: | wagnerrp: What size! |
| [04:06:26] | buu: | And where are they used?! |
| [04:07:10] | wagnerrp: | coverfile is usually the image of the front of the dvd case |
| [04:07:14] | skd5aner: | and, half of my cobtent is now h264 from an hdpvr, so thatd be a bit more taxing than atsc mpeg2 |
| [04:07:14] | wagnerrp: | screen shot is... a screen shot |
| [04:07:22] | wagnerrp: | banner is a short, wide banner |
| [04:07:25] | wagnerrp: | fanart is full screen |
| [04:07:41] | wagnerrp: | hdpvr content would be trivial for that CPU |
| [04:07:47] | buu: | Is fanart what gets displayed 'behind' the menu? |
| [04:07:56] | wagnerrp: | correct, optionally, depending on the theme |
| [04:08:03] | buu: | Ah |
| [04:08:12] | wagnerrp: | typically, that content all gets populated from thetvdb.com or themoviedb.org |
| [04:08:18] | buu: | Sure, that's where I'm looking |
| [04:08:23] | buu: | I just want to make sure I map it correctly |
| [04:08:35] | wagnerrp: | what are you doing? |
| [04:08:44] | buu: | Manually populating the videometadata table |
| [04:08:49] | wagnerrp: | why? |
| [04:08:57] | skd5aner: | buu, let myth do it for you |
| [04:09:05] | buu: | Because the myth one is .. insufficient |
| [04:09:38] | skd5aner: | you can manually go in and select the artwork you want it to download from whats available from the datasources |
| [04:09:46] | buu: | Oh yes, that sounds like fun. |
| [04:09:58] | skd5aner: | via the metadata settings in the recording rules, for example |
| [04:10:09] | wagnerrp: | without more information, i can't really respond to that |
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| [04:11:20] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I was looking at the zotac boxes, which have integrated nvidia GPUs, but I haven't made my mind up yet |
| [04:11:22] | buu: | wagnerrp: I wasn't really looking for approval, just technical details =] |
| [04:11:42] | skd5aner: | buu: he wasn't suggesting an approval/disapproval, just more info |
| [04:11:57] | wagnerrp: | not approval, just i can't really advise action without more information |
| [04:12:19] | buu: | The default mythscan doesn't recognize my video library, like, at all, so rather than modifying it I'm writing my own |
| [04:12:24] | wagnerrp: | if you're using the python bindings, most of what you're trying to do gets done automatically for you |
| [04:12:26] | skd5aner: | buu: fact of the matter is, you really shouldn't need to manually specifiy, and even if you did, you wouldn't ever have to do it directly in the database... the frontend has a UI to manually specify a path to a file for each recording should you choose to do so |
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| [04:12:40] | tonsofpcs: | jafa: re:5.1: use a home theatre receiver that you can force simulated 5.1 modes? complain to the source? Is this AC-3? |
| [04:12:43] | buu: | skd5aner: I'm seriously not going to manually specify for 100s of movies |
| [04:12:47] | skd5aner: | buu: you mean, it won't parse your filenames? |
| [04:12:48] | wagnerrp: | but it sounds like you're not even talking about metadata |
| [04:12:51] | buu: | skd5aner: Yes.. |
| [04:12:54] | wagnerrp: | you're talking about the file scanner itself |
| [04:13:00] | wagnerrp: | which is independent from the bulk metadata updater |
| [04:13:21] | buu: | I was associating the part that searches the directories and then later creates metadata entries for the things it found |
| [04:14:06] | skd5aner: | well, I'd suggest updating your file names... or at least from here on out using a parsable filename format – http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing |
| [04:14:35] | buu: | Suggestion noted. |
| [04:15:40] | wagnerrp: | if you use the python bindings to scan through the list of content in videometadata, you can parse your filenames as desired, and have direct access to the existing grabbers |
| [04:15:51] | wagnerrp: | (assuming you know any python) |
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| [04:16:21] | skd5aner: | g'night |
| [04:16:28] | wagnerrp: | later |
| [04:18:00] | buu: | wagnerrp: That's true. |
| [04:18:10] | buu: | wagnerrp: But the scanner picked up a ton of non-video files while it was at it |
| [04:18:39] | wagnerrp: | the only reason it would have done that is if you messed with the file type definitions, or completely disabled them |
| [04:18:50] | buu: | I didn't! |
| [04:18:53] | buu: | Default everything! |
| [04:18:55] | wagnerrp: | (or if somehow those settings in your database were corrupted during a schema update) |
| [04:19:07] | buu: | Where are they stored in the db? |
| [04:20:42] | wagnerrp: | setup --> media settings --> videos settings --> file types |
| [04:20:59] | wagnerrp: | and setup --> media settings --> videos settings --> metadata settings --> display unknown file types |
| [04:21:20] | wagnerrp: | either srt is defined and not marked has hidden in file types, or the option to display unknown types is checked |
| [04:21:53] | buu: | I'll check after this movie is finished |
| [04:22:56] | Swabby: | Is the best way to get premium channels is to use firewire and a analog capture card? |
| [04:23:04] | Swabby: | connected to the set top box? |
| [04:23:39] | wagnerrp: | with insight, analog capture is pretty much the only way to get any channels |
| [04:24:03] | wagnerrp: | aside from that, if you can use a form of control other than IR, you're advised to do so |
| [04:25:28] | Swabby: | wagnerrp: what does the physical architecture typically look like of that? |
| [04:25:35] | Swabby: | put the backend in a closet or something? |
| [04:25:41] | wagnerrp: | if you wish |
| [04:25:42] | Swabby: | or put the backend pc near the setup box at the tv? |
| [04:25:53] | wagnerrp: | mythtv expects dedicated tuners |
| [04:26:00] | wagnerrp: | and that includes any STBs you're capturing off of |
| [04:26:20] | wagnerrp: | it doesn't expect to have to deal with users independently using its defined hardware |
| [04:26:25] | Swabby: | wagnerrp: do you know of anyone that's used a roku with the twc app to do it? |
| [04:26:51] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is not designed to capture on-demand content from an STB |
| [04:27:09] | wagnerrp: | in theory, you could handle it using a channel change script |
| [04:27:37] | wagnerrp: | but since you would be blindly clicking away on an interface intended to be interactive, it seems prone to failure |
| [04:27:44] | Swabby: | got it...that makes sense |
| [04:28:06] | Swabby: | since in a perfect world, the capture card would drive the "channel change" based on application need |
| [04:28:11] | Swabby: | (ex: what's on the schedule for record, etc) |
| [04:28:36] | Swabby: | is that in theory as good as it gets with cable tv? i assume my options are better if i go with satellite |
| [04:28:56] | wagnerrp: | in satellite tv, the only option ever is analog capture |
| [04:29:12] | wagnerrp: | with cable tv, there is the potential for direct digital capture using a cablecard tuner |
| [04:29:28] | wagnerrp: | except you're on insight, which is now tied into the travesty that is time warner |
| [04:29:35] | wagnerrp: | rendering a cablecard tuner worthless |
| [04:29:55] | Swabby: | to put it lightly twc is the worst cable company ever. |
| [04:30:06] | Swabby: | my big driver for looking at myth tv is because the DVR's are so junky |
| [04:30:12] | buu: | TWC doesn't work with cablecards? |
| [04:30:14] | Swabby: | we can't rely on the recordings |
| [04:30:20] | wagnerrp: | luckily we have this whole "right of way" issue that allows cable companies to have a government-enforced monopoly, so it's not like you have much option |
| [04:30:22] | Swabby: | I *think* twc does offer cable cards |
| [04:30:44] | wagnerrp: | buu: time warner works just fine with cable cards and cablecard tuner. the issue is that mythtv is open source, and thus cannot have anything to do with DRM |
| [04:30:51] | Swabby: | if i can get a cable card, is it just a matter of buying a PC turner that supports the cards? |
| [04:30:51] | buu: | Sure |
| [04:31:00] | Swabby: | wagnerrp: so based on the DRM all the stuff is still scrambled? |
| [04:31:04] | buu: | wagnerrp: Are you saying twc puts copy-once on all their channels? |
| [04:31:04] | wagnerrp: | as a result, we cannot access any content available to cablecard tuners marked for copy protection |
| [04:31:16] | wagnerrp: | yes, time warner typically marked everything as protected |
| [04:31:19] | buu: | owch |
| [04:31:22] | Swabby: | that's junk |
| [04:31:37] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to the other big two, verizon and comcast, that only mark the premiums as protected |
| [04:31:38] | buu: | I'm using a cablecard right now quite happily =/ |
| [04:31:44] | buu: | The silly thing isn't even registered |
| [04:31:47] | buu: | Which still confuses me |
| [04:31:48] | Swabby: | wagnerrp: so.. honestly with twc there's no real benefit to using mythtv |
| [04:32:08] | wagnerrp: | well sure there is, it's far more extensible than time warners own DVR systems |
| [04:32:28] | buu: | Yeah but how do you get signal? |
| [04:32:28] | wagnerrp: | you can add more storage and more tuners as your desires (and wallet) allow |
| [04:32:33] | Swabby: | wagnerrp: i just have to accept the limitation of not having every channel? |
| [04:32:36] | wagnerrp: | STBs and analog capture |
| [04:32:49] | buu: | oh |
| [04:32:57] | buu: | And like an ir transmitter that controls the stb? |
| [04:33:24] | wagnerrp: | correct, or if you're lucky, something more reliable like firewire or ethernet or serial to control the STB |
| [04:33:39] | Swabby: | wagnerrp: if i had a dedicated stb and ir plugged into a dedicated myth server, i may have a chance of having a decent system right? |
| [04:33:47] | wagnerrp: | apparently most of the directv STBs in use currently can be controlled with http commands |
| [04:33:53] | Swabby: | the only downfall is i will only be able to tune one "live" channel at a time right? |
| [04:33:55] | buu: | Would that give you access to only one channel per stb? |
| [04:33:57] | buu: | heh |
| [04:34:09] | Swabby: | yeah...that's my question buu :) |
| [04:34:17] | wagnerrp: | yes, one channel per capture device and STB |
| [04:34:51] | Swabby: | wagnerrp: do you use myth in your home? |
| [04:35:03] | wagnerrp: | i am here... |
| [04:35:05] | Swabby: | What's your setup look like? are you using satellite? or another cable provider? |
| [04:35:40] | Swabby: | if i went to satellite i'm still in the same boat right? since they have dedicated boxes to do the descrambling |
| [04:35:42] | wagnerrp: | four ATSC tuners, and a single HDPVR and DirecTV STB |
| [04:36:00] | wagnerrp: | (the STB and HDPVR are not yet configured) |
| [04:37:19] | Swabby: | nice |
| [04:38:08] | Swabby: | so the four atsc tuners are not related to the mythtv at all right? |
| [04:38:30] | wagnerrp: | those are for broadcast tv, and are only used for mythtv |
| [04:38:32] | Swabby: | the HDPVR + DirectTV STB is hooked up to the MythTV backend and then have a front end somewhere in your house to view the content for myth? |
| [04:38:51] | wagnerrp: | the HDPVR and STB are intended for mythtv, but not currently configured |
| [04:39:07] | wagnerrp: | and there are two dedicated frontends, and two more optional frontends |
| [04:39:10] | Swabby: | Ahhh |
| [04:39:57] | Swabby: | So.. Help me understand.. i have 3 TVs in my home currently. The main tv is in the living room on a dual tuner DVR. The other two TVs i have mini boxes (TWC has all channels digital now so you can't just plug in coax anymore into the TV) |
| [04:40:16] | wagnerrp: | well you can... but it's all encrypted, so it wouldn't do much |
| [04:40:17] | Swabby: | so..if i wanted MythTV to work on one TV.. I would have to build a server with a tv card and feed my settop box signal into the mythtv backend |
| [04:40:29] | Swabby: | and figure out a way to get myth to change channels on the box |
| [04:40:37] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [04:40:51] | wagnerrp: | although not a TV card, just a capture card |
| [04:40:55] | wagnerrp: | it doesn't need a tuner |
| [04:41:02] | Swabby: | and i can't record and watch live tv at the same time because that output would be needed for recording |
| [04:41:18] | wagnerrp: | you can watch what you're recording, but otherwise yes |
| [04:41:23] | Swabby: | ahhh..got it..makes send on the capture |
| [04:41:36] | wagnerrp: | technically, you can only record one thing at a time, period, since livetv is still a recording |
| [04:41:53] | wagnerrp: | it's just a recording with a bit of code glue to allow direct control |
| [04:42:02] | Swabby: | makes sense.... vs right now i can record two things due to the dual dvr capabilities.. |
| [04:42:08] | Swabby: | could i watch shows that have already been recorded? |
| [04:42:15] | wagnerrp: | of course |
| [04:42:26] | wagnerrp: | which is the intended purpose of any DVR anyway |
| [04:42:40] | wagnerrp: | watching live tv is a breakdown of the DVR paradigm |
| [04:42:44] | Swabby: | and i guess if i wanted a "mac daddy" system i could get more stb's and capture cards. |
| [04:42:51] | Swabby: | but.. would probably be overkill |
| [04:43:20] | wagnerrp: | as mentioned, i currently have four tuners (plus the yet unconfigured HDPVR) |
| [04:43:24] | Swabby: | it would be awesome if myth somehow could integrate into the benefits that channels like showtime and hbo offer to watch tv online |
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| [04:45:34] | Swabby: | are you leasing the four tuners from the catv company? |
| [04:45:41] | Swabby: | i mean direct |
| [04:45:50] | Swabby: | so..do you have a card that supports up to four inputs? |
| [04:46:00] | wagnerrp: | no, broadcast |
| [04:46:05] | wagnerrp: | as in not cable, nor satellite |
| [04:46:10] | Swabby: | ahhhhh got it |
| [04:46:13] | wagnerrp: | the stuff you use with an antenna |
| [05:04:29] | jya_: | now that got to be a first :( freebsd 9 picks up the network card on my new motherboard just fine; but in ubuntu 13.10, I can't manage to bring the interface up |
| [05:05:16] | wagnerrp: | i started using freebsd in the first place a decade ago because it picked up both of my controller cards out of the box. none of the linux distros i had tried supported both |
| [05:06:04] | jya_: | on linux in dmesg I can see the igb drivers picking up the ethernet adapter (both eth0 and eth1) ; yet I can't manage to bring them up |
| [05:06:45] | Novae: | wagnerrp: Did you have any difficulty building 0.26.1 from ports? |
| [05:06:56] | wagnerrp: | i don't build from ports |
| [05:07:14] | Novae: | Hmph, ok :P |
| [05:07:34] | buu: | jya_: and ifconfig shows them? |
| [05:07:44] | wagnerrp: | jya_: one of the silicondust guys was having difficulty with AC3 upmixing earlier. he's still in channel, but i'm not sure if he's still active |
| [05:07:45] | jya_: | no |
| [05:09:41] | tonsofpcs: | jya_: got a pci vendor and deviceid? |
| [05:10:10] | jya_: | it's an intel i210, on a supermicro x10sl7-f board |
| [05:10:58] | jya_: | there are 2 gigabit interfaces there. the igb drivers see them both. in dmesg; they both show as eth0 with a different mac address; wonder if that's the reason |
| [05:14:10] | tonsofpcs: | so they show in dmesg but not ifconfig -a? |
| [05:14:51] | jya_: | ah they show up as interface p2p1 and p3p1 |
| [05:16:37] | jya_: | I've *never* seen in linux a network interface not showing up as eth0 ! |
| [05:18:55] | wagnerrp: | suse has some funky behavior that the ethernet interfaces can be non-sequential |
| [05:19:29] | tonsofpcs: | it's apparently a fedora 'feature' that has been copied |
| [05:19:37] | wagnerrp: | on a supermicro board, after a crash, eth0 and eth1 would show up as eth7 and eth8 |
| [05:19:38] | tonsofpcs: | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Consis . . . DeviceNaming |
| [05:19:58] | wagnerrp: | meaning their configurations were never loaded, and the computer could not be accessed until things were manually fixed |
| [05:20:34] | wagnerrp: | how it chose 7 and 8, i couldn't tell you, because it's not like there were more than two NICs in the system |
| [05:21:38] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: that's apparently part of what this new naming convention is trying to 'fix' |
| [05:21:51] | tonsofpcs: | I've had interfaces jump between eth0 and eth1 with each reboot before. |
| [05:22:11] | wagnerrp: | why not just have udev alias them based off the MAC address? |
| [05:22:29] | wagnerrp: | well, i guess they're not device nodes... |
| [05:22:51] | tonsofpcs: | apparently this p#p# is related to their physiccal bus location as reported by the BIOS |
| [05:23:19] | wagnerrp: | that's no good, even that changes |
| [05:23:29] | jya_: | wagnerrp: main reason I'm starting ubuntu is to check if I can control the fans a little bit better... via the IPMI interfaces I have only 3 choices |
| [05:23:35] | jya_: | all of them making me deaf |
| [05:23:35] | wagnerrp: | add in a new graphics card and see if those IDs align any more |
| [05:24:25] | wagnerrp: | sounds like typical server gear |
| [05:25:27] | jya_: | unfortunately yes :( |
| [05:25:41] | jya_: | paid a fortune for that case, it's very nicely done... but damn that's loud |
| [05:25:52] | jya_: | I'm so glad I bought a fanless cpu heatsink :) |
| [05:26:10] | jya_: | it's a 12 bays 2U chassis |
| [05:26:15] | wagnerrp: | i thought most server heatsinks were fanless |
| [05:26:24] | wagnerrp: | using an air duct off the case fans |
| [05:26:41] | jya_: | in freebsd I can play with the sgpio attached to the onboard intel sata adapter; but not the LSI 2308 one |
| [05:27:00] | jya_: | wagnerrp: the xeon E3–1220 came with a heatsink |
| [05:27:25] | jya_: | yes, there's some kind of plastic thing to make an air tunner |
| [05:28:22] | jya_: | ipmi is very cool... |
| [05:28:35] | jya_: | can turn off , reboot, access the screen, all remotely |
| [05:28:45] | jya_: | I don't think I will ever purchase a motherboard without it! |
| [05:29:05] | wagnerrp: | i would be happy with just remote reboot |
| [05:29:47] | jya_: | I got an iPhone app, can monitor the chassis remotely; and can soft reboot, or hard power cycle ... |
| [05:29:58] | jya_: | and that works even with the machine off... |
| [05:30:13] | jya_: | though the power supply are always on as a consequence (it's a redundant one) |
| [05:31:09] | wagnerrp: | full on? or standby power? |
| [05:31:35] | jya_: | I can't access the power supplies power usage with the board is off.. |
| [05:31:44] | jya_: | so I can't say for sure |
| [05:32:04] | jya_: | with the xeon, the 6 RED drives; it's showing as 38W idle |
| [05:32:11] | jya_: | which I thought was pretty good |
| [05:32:42] | jya_: | but it is so loud... |
| [05:32:54] | jya_: | last night I inaverdently disconnected a fan |
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| [05:33:03] | jya_: | the other 3 kicked in at full speed |
| [05:33:22] | jya_: | it even woke my wife up, and I'm pretty far away from our bedroom ! |
| [05:34:38] | jya_: | network is up... had to change /etc/network/interfaces to use p2p1 instead of eth0 |
| [05:35:09] | jya_: | ok, now can install zfs drivers finally and make benchmark comparison with freenas |
| [05:35:27] | wagnerrp: | mine is currently reporting... 27.9%, or 210W |
| [05:36:03] | jya_: | 210W?? what kind of machine is that? |
| [05:36:08] | wagnerrp: | of course that's with 14 drives and a bunch of networking and other gear |
| [05:36:15] | wagnerrp: | that's the UPS load |
| [05:36:21] | wagnerrp: | not sure what the specific system load is |
| [05:36:49] | jya_: | mine is a supermicro 2U chassis, with 12 bays, currently all loaded, but will only use 6 disks to start with. xeon e3–1220 v3... nothing else |
| [05:37:34] | jya_: | the first power supply reports 40W in, the 2nd 46W out. |
| [05:37:51] | jya_: | lucky I got a platinum rated , and the lowest I could find: 500W |
| [05:38:00] | jya_: | this is still way too much .. 300W would have suffice |
| [05:38:14] | wagnerrp: | this is unrated. just an older 650W antec unit |
| [05:38:57] | jya_: | 210W that's a lot |
| [05:40:17] | wagnerrp: | that's also a 24-port switch, modem, firewall, access point, two tuners, POTS ATA, and most of the drives are spun up |
| [05:40:31] | jya_: | ah ok... I'm only looking at a single server her |
| [05:40:43] | wagnerrp: | right. this is UPS load |
| [05:40:53] | jya_: | no idea how much my 2 gigabit switch are using, and everything else |
| [05:40:58] | jya_: | the UPS is still in the box |
| [05:41:09] | jya_: | and I don't plan to use the UPS for the network.. |
| [05:41:15] | jya_: | not enough space in my cabinet |
| [05:41:27] | jya_: | so the file server + ups will go in another location |
| [05:41:40] | jya_: | plus if it makes that much noise, I'm thinking of moving it to the attic |
| [05:41:57] | jya_: | not sure how well it will go up there though, it can be pretty hot in summer |
| [05:42:16] | jya_: | but that's the only place I have where the noise won't drive me insane |
| [05:42:28] | wagnerrp: | no basement? |
| [05:42:37] | jya_: | this is australia :( |
| [05:42:44] | jya_: | very few houses with basement in Victoria |
| [05:42:50] | wagnerrp: | they don't have basements down there? |
| [05:42:52] | jya_: | all houses are on stumps |
| [05:43:14] | wagnerrp: | high water table? |
| [05:43:20] | jya_: | new ones are built on a concrete slabs, but they rarely make basements unless the land is on a big slope |
| [05:43:32] | jya_: | no, I think it's just much cheaper that way |
| [05:43:55] | jya_: | my house was built in 1918 just after the first war, and it's a weatherboard on stumps too |
| [05:44:08] | jya_: | alternatively, was looking at: |
| [05:44:09] | jya_: | http://www.rackworld.com.au/18ru-tall-network . . . mm-007-p146/ |
| [05:44:25] | jya_: | but that's another $700 :( |
| [05:44:46] | jya_: | I've already spent quite a fortune on that pc |
| [05:44:51] | wagnerrp: | do you have some kind of online classifieds down there? |
| [05:45:05] | wagnerrp: | you can usually find used racks fairly cheaply on craigslist |
| [05:45:08] | jya_: | sure do... why? |
| [05:45:30] | jya_: | well, if I go for a rack, I want something fairly closed; and that won't look out of place in my house |
| [05:45:38] | jya_: | it's not a datacenter yet :) |
| [05:46:17] | jya_: | ohhhhh... ubuntu see my pools ! |
| [05:46:27] | wagnerrp: | i've been meaning to build my backend into a vertical utility cabinet |
| [05:46:35] | wagnerrp: | haven't been able to find one of the proper dimensions yet |
| [05:47:01] | jya_: | that box there is a 18U, desk height |
| [05:47:05] | jya_: | I looked at this one: |
| [05:47:20] | jya_: | http://www.supermicro.com/products/rack/miniRack.cfm |
| [05:47:21] | wagnerrp: | mount the board vertically, hard drives and fans in the bottom, blowing up for a chimney effect |
| [05:47:34] | jya_: | but it cost even more, and is just a mesh at the front door, won't be as quiet |
| [05:48:00] | jya_: | I found a cabinet that is supposed to be completely soundproof |
| [05:48:06] | jya_: | but it's like $2K in the US !!! |
| [05:48:53] | jya_: | oh.. while googling I found that one: http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/AcoustiQuie . . . ver_Rack.asp |
| [05:49:38] | jya_: | ouh... the 12U is $1799 |
| [05:50:15] | wagnerrp: | my current case actually has that same acoustic matting built in |
| [05:51:04] | wagnerrp: | desktop case, that is... server is just a big noisy box in the basement |
| [05:51:45] | wagnerrp: | and they make a version with a window in the side |
| [05:51:55] | wagnerrp: | why would you ever give up nice acoustic matting for a window? |
| [05:52:02] | wagnerrp: | mind boggling... |
| [05:52:31] | jya_: | so you can see the blue leds |
| [05:52:40] | jya_: | very important... |
| [05:53:16] | jya_: | that price is mind boggling too: http://mainlinecomputer.com/products/acoustiquiet-24u |
| [05:56:04] | wagnerrp: | that looks like a -48, not a -24 |
| [05:56:09] | wagnerrp: | much too tall for a half rack |
| [05:56:33] | wagnerrp: | unless those are just generic pictures, and not the product in question |
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| [06:32:52] | buu: | Success! |
| [06:33:01] | buu: | I have vanquished the evil mythtv database. |
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| [09:53:39] | buu: | mythtv uses ffmpeg for playback right? |
| [09:53:45] | buu: | I mean, whats the internal player? |
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| [10:39:22] | jm|laptop: | buu: aiui it uses its own fork of [lib]ffmpeg |
| [10:41:42] | buu: | Mmmm |
| [10:41:53] | buu: | jm|laptop: Its failing on a video file =[ |
| [10:48:50] | jm|laptop: | bummer. |
| [10:48:57] | jm|laptop: | does it play with say mplayer? |
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| [10:56:56] | buu: | jm|laptop: Sure |
| [10:56:58] | buu: | and vlc etc |
| [10:57:05] | buu: | And my newly compiled ffmpeg |
| [10:57:18] | jm|laptop: | buu: is it a Programme Recording or a Video? |
| [10:58:33] | buu: | Video |
| [11:00:28] | jm|laptop: | not necessarily mythtv's fault, then? I would assume that the "internal" ffmpeg code is tested for recordings made by it, from all but the most obscure of tuners |
| [11:01:01] | jm|laptop: | buu: if you run mediainfo on the file, does it use a peculiar A/V codec combo or weird container? |
| [11:01:54] | jm|laptop: | does mythtv's log give any indication as to why it's not playing? |
| [11:05:47] | buu: | jm|laptop: its just a mkv encoded with a very recent encoder |
| [11:06:38] | jm|laptop: | then maybe you're ahead of the curve. If you're smart enough you could fork/implement the new ffmpeg bits and recompile your own mythtv :) |
| [11:06:51] | jm|laptop: | I know stuff does go both ways between the myth team and the ffmpeg team |
| [11:11:10] | buu: | Is there someway to teach mythtv to use an external ffmpeg? |
| [11:11:19] | buu: | Or maybe I should just set a play command |
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| [19:30:10] | Goga777: | does it correct that GT610 card can do advanced 2-x deinterlacing for 1080i 50Ghz without any problem ? |
| [19:30:45] | Goga777: | wiki confirmed this sentence |
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| [20:10:35] | tonsofpcs: | wagnerrp: I figured out how to download it but couldn't get it in. I think I need to figure out two different ids (schedule and listings maybe? I'm not there now) and pass them as options to make it work. |
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| [21:03:39] | jm|laptop: | is vaapi yet unstable? |
| [21:04:52] | jm|laptop: | I seem to get 'random' segfaults and GPU freezes. Unless I'm stracing in which case I can't get the thing to crash >.< |
| [21:05:55] | sid3windr: | heisenbug |
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| [22:26:31] | jafa: | figured out the osd aspect ratio problem... |
| [22:26:47] | jafa: | mythtv seems to default to using a zoom mode |
| [22:27:09] | jafa: | and osd is handled badly in that mode |
| [22:27:25] | jafa: | setting the default zoom to "none" fixed the problem |
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| [22:30:32] | jafa: | audio problem remains – if the TV show uses only L+R on 5.1 encoding (ie most older TV shows broadcast on a HD channel) then mythtv doesn't know to upconvert to 5.1 |
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| [23:10:43] | __raven: | possible to download a recording with the frontend? |
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