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Friday, November 8th, 2013, 00:01 UTC
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[01:15:06] plut0: where is the default channel stored when entering livetv? livetv fails to start because it can't tune to that channel
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[01:20:45] clever: plut0: i think its under mythtv-setup in the tuner settings
[01:20:52] clever: or the tuner/listing connections
[01:26:34] Hydr0p0nX: yep
[01:31:07] plut0: yeah that wasn't the one i was looking for though
[01:31:31] plut0: the frontends store their own start channel as well
[01:33:01] Hydr0p0nX: what do you mean the frontend won't start because of it ?
[01:33:08] plut0: yeah
[01:34:35] Hydr0p0nX: my experience is either: 1. you get something like can't open jump file, which means (for me) restart the tuning adapter and restart myth or 2. get a message that says something like, you should have gotten a lock by now ...
[01:34:50] Hydr0p0nX: with option 2, you just type in the number of another channel and it'll retry tuning it
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[01:41:26] Hydr0p0nX: do you get an error ?
[01:43:56] plut0: i figured it out
[01:44:07] Hydr0p0nX: what was it ?
[01:44:15] plut0: network tuner was offline
[01:44:30] plut0: had to reset the switch
[01:45:29] Hydr0p0nX: that'll do it
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[02:11:22] buu: Anyone happen to know how I convince my mce usb remote to work through lirc instead of keyboard?
[02:11:50] wagnerrp_: instead of keyboard?
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[02:12:00] buu: Its working as a keyboard by default
[02:12:22] wagnerrp: it's actually picked up as an HID keyboard? or it's being picked up by the X event system?
[02:12:44] buu: Uh, HID keyboard
[02:12:55] buu: [ 1.460365] hid-generic 0003:147A:E031.0001: input,hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [Formosa21 IR603 HID MCE] on usb-0000:00:14.0–5/input0
[02:13:06] wagnerrp: yeah... can't do anything about that
[02:13:21] wagnerrp: get a more sensible receiver
[02:13:25] buu: ...
[02:13:43] buu: You can get lirc to read from it
[02:13:55] buu: And theoretically mythtv talks to lirc
[02:15:27] wagnerrp: from that specific receiver? or from MCEUSB receivers?
[02:15:40] buu: Both
[02:16:20] wagnerrp: this is what an actual MCEUSB unit looks like... http://pastebin.com/jJEwpdZ4
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[02:17:24] buu: Sure, I've configured lirc to read from /dev/input basically
[02:17:28] buu: And irw receieves the keycodes
[02:17:33] buu: Unfortunately mythtv does not
[02:17:42] buu: Specifically chanup and chandown
[02:17:57] wagnerrp: lircd.conf tells lircd how to map IR input to button names
[02:18:07] wagnerrp: lircrc tells applications how to respond to those button names from lircd
[02:18:28] wagnerrp: make sure your )~/.mythtv/)lircrc is configured properly
[02:19:17] buu: Oh
[02:19:21] buu: I don't have a lircrc
[02:22:27] wagnerrp: without an lircrc, mythtv wont do anything
[02:22:37] wagnerrp: unless it is additionally responding to the inputs from X
[02:22:54] buu: Ah-ha
[02:23:54] buu: Can you link me to some docs on setting up a lircrc?
[02:24:33] wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:LIRC_Configuration_Files
[02:25:10] wagnerrp: not documentation, specifically, but a number of examples
[02:27:13] buu: Right, thanks.
[02:27:24] buu: http://lirc.org/html/configure.html#lircrc_format =]
[02:30:26] wagnerrp: note that with MythTV, the lircrc maps the inputs to keyboard keys, which are further mapped using the internal keybindings
[02:52:44] buu: Right-o
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[03:18:34] roe: Is there some documentation on how to get tmdb3.py to get results? I have a set of movies (not pirated) that are named_with_the_title_and_underscores.mp4 however myth is running tmdb3.py -l en -M title with spaces and no quotes
[03:18:49] roe: when I manually run it with quotes it returns
[03:20:40] wagnerrp: actually, that's not true
[03:20:52] wagnerrp: the command it says it is running is not quite accurate
[03:21:07] wagnerrp: in the manner it runs them, quotes are unnecessary
[03:21:34] roe: so any thoughts on how to get it to return results?
[03:22:42] wagnerrp: it may have gotten bad results once and cached them. try deleting ~/.mythtv/pytmdb3.cache
[03:23:40] wagnerrp: give me a specific example
[03:25:06] roe: Running Grabber: /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Movie/tmdb3.py -l en -M Dr Strangelove
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[03:30:17] wagnerrp: worked fine here... http://pastebin.com/m115RNKE
[03:32:11] roe: what version are you running
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[03:35:22] wagnerrp: 0.27
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[03:35:38] wagnerrp: looks like you're on 0.26, but aside from the '-a US', there should be no difference
[03:35:53] roe: what version of tmdb.py
[03:36:04] roe: <version>0.3.6</version>
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[03:36:52] wagnerrp: the library is the same, the script is slightly different, supporting the new '-a' parameter
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[04:52:05] buu: Ok, I have a 1080p tv, but if I set my live tv aspect ratio to 16:9 I get black bars top and bottom, they go away if I set to 4:3
[04:52:32] [R]: sounds like your source video is 4:3
[04:52:47] buu: [R]: oh
[04:53:07] buu: [R]: Its just a random hd channel over cable, can I check what its sending me?
[04:53:52] [R]: theres various programs to check the resolution on a video file
[04:53:54] [R]: midentify is one
[04:54:24] buu: myth won't tell me?
[04:54:37] [R]: actualy menu->playback->playback data
[04:54:39] [R]: will tel you the info
[04:54:53] buu: Oh, nifty.
[04:55:22] buu: video: 1920x108@29.97fps, mpeg2, vdpau..
[04:56:09] buu: So shouldn't a 16:9 be the right setting?
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[04:56:33] [R]: could be 4:3 framed in 16:9
[04:56:50] buu: Oh and when I go to 4:3 it stretches it or something?
[04:57:02] [R]: sure
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[06:03:27] buu: Hrm.
[06:03:36] buu: Next trick: judder fixing under nvidia hdmi
[06:04:05] buu: Is "judder" the occasional set of horizontal lines that go from the top to the bottom and look like they're out of sync?
[06:04:23] wagnerrp: no, that's v-sync
[06:04:40] buu: oh
[06:05:07] wagnerrp: judder is when your decode and playback frequencies are different, resulting in an occasional duplicated frame to make up the difference
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[06:05:31] buu: Ohhh
[06:05:37] buu: Thanks.
[06:07:35] wagnerrp: what you're referring to is when the decode and playback cycles get out of sync
[06:07:45] wagnerrp: and the decoder is overwriting playback memory mid-frame
[06:07:51] wagnerrp: so you get half of one frame, half of the next
[06:08:51] wagnerrp: v-sync ensures the previous frame has been completely transmitted before refreshing it with the next
[06:11:12] buu: Ok, where do I mess with those settings?
[06:11:28] buu: It says it should be under general playback =/
[06:11:29] wagnerrp: frontend, playback, video
[06:14:10] buu: "vertical scaling" "scan displacement(y)" ...
[06:17:13] buu: wagnerrp: I don't have anything that says vsync in my video -> playback menu
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[09:55:59] lapion: wagnerrp, as of recent a certain dvb device will not work with mythtv anymore, how can i retrograde ?
[09:57:44] oobe: you mean diagnose?
[09:59:00] oobe: I would check it with dvb-utils if it works ok using tzap -r and mplayer /dev/dvb/adapter01/dvr0 then you may just need to check mythtv-setup settings
[09:59:24] oobe: also you can see in mythweb if any database tables have crashed that could be the issue.
[09:59:56] lapion: oobe, even me-tv can use the stick.. only mythtv craps out..
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[10:01:08] oobe: ok forget about dvb-utils that is what I was trying to establish I would check mythweb at http://localhost/mythweb/settings/database
[10:01:23] oobe: scroll up and down to see if any tables have crashed
[10:01:34] oobe: it wouldnt hurt to click on the optimize and repair
[10:01:58] oobe: and if that doesnt help you should run mythtv-setup and check the settings for the capture card
[10:04:14] oobe: I would also look at the logs for more clues too.
[10:05:18] oobe: a lot of guys here will ask to see the logs I havent asked cause I dont know what to look for but it wouldnt hurt to make a pastebin handy for when someone else is around if you still cant fix it later.
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[10:14:29] lapion: oobe a less stable replcaement dvb device has no problem until it overheats..
[10:16:33] lapion: oobe, and it's not kernel related, the bug survived a system upgrade
[10:18:43] oobe: I had to assume its not kernel related once you told me it worked in anothe program
[10:18:50] oobe: I meant backend logs not system logs
[10:29:28] stuartm: lapion: nothing at all has changed in MythTV recently with relation to the DVB api, did you upgrade the kernel? There is a known kernel bug that affects mythtv (not other apps, but other apps aren't doing what mythtv needs to do)
[10:30:46] lapion: stuartm, I even went from 3.2.0 to 3.5.0
[10:31:32] lapion: stuartm, only one of my 3 cards is affected
[10:31:39] stuartm: that'll be it then
[10:32:08] stuartm: lapion: yeah, they introduced a change to some of the drivers which broke them, it's been fixed again in a more recent kernel
[10:32:39] stuartm: 3.5.0 is pretty old now
[10:34:55] lapion: stuartm, ok will backtrack kernels
[10:42:32] oobe: I dont really understand how they keep inflating kernel version 2.4.x and 2.6.x lasted for years and years obviously there is public docs on the versioning scheme I just havent read them but it seems a bit strange
[10:56:11] stuartm: there really no pattern to the versioning, we only got 3.x because Linus finally decided that the pattern of 2.6.xxx was getting to be silly and meaningless
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[11:17:32] oobe: thats the best explanation I heard
[11:21:07] clever: and he skipped 2.8?
[11:33:43] lapion: clever, 2.6 to 3.0 was a major change
[11:34:38] clever: lapion: what kind of major changes happened?
[11:44:30] stuartm: clever: the first number changed from a 2 to a 3, and the second number from a 6 to a 0
[11:46:43] sid3windr: and the third one disappeard
[11:47:02] sid3windr: that's 3 major changes, tbqh
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[11:48:58] stuartm: fwiw, I wasn't being facetious, that really was the only significant change between 2.6.x and 3.x – it was purely change for cosmetic reasons
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[12:11:30] lapion: sid3windr, went from a 2 branch development cycle to a single branch development cycle..
[12:12:48] lapion: stuartm, nope not the kernel problem
[12:14:06] lapion: anyhow back to the drawing board... restore backups to a identical system
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[12:16:58] dekarl-work: lapion: the fix went into linux kernel 3.9 IIRC, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel#Maintenance says this version was EOLed already.You might want to try at least 3.10 LTS
[12:19:02] dekarl-work: see also https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1235084#p1235084 and http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11539#comment:3 for references to the fix
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[12:48:50] ** lapion thinks it has something to do with firmware xc3028-v27.fw vs cv3028-v24.fw **
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[16:16:48] skd5aner: Is there an easy way to re-record already deleted recordings, but not necesarily re-record unwatched recordings for a show?
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[17:07:07] skyph: hello
[17:09:19] skyph: i want to buy Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H on CX23418 chip, will it work with mythtv?
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[17:10:22] skyph: wiki says only one device supported on CX23418  – Hauppauge HVR-1600
[17:11:43] Merlin83b: Sounds like it'd work to me: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Cx18_devices_%28cx23418%29
[17:12:24] Merlin83b: Though a DVR3100H isn't listed in the linked txt file.
[17:13:15] skyph: yeah, that is why i asking
[17:13:29] Merlin83b: Sorry then, can't offer any more help!
[17:13:29] skyph: i will try to contact leadtek
[17:13:49] skyph: thanks anyway ; )
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[18:02:45] skd5aner: !seen IReboot
[18:02:45] MythLogBot: IReboot was last seen 40 days 6 hours 54 minutes 17 seconds ago
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[19:12:40] erikswed: Hi, I'm having trouble with recordings disappearing. I have set the expiring method to Oldest first but recordings only a few days old are expired:
[19:12:41] erikswed: From log: Nov 4 22:02:28 eddie mythlogserver: mythbackend[1886]: N Expire autoexpire.cpp:641 (SendDeleteMessages) Expiring 1601 MB for 5114 at 2013-11–02T15:43:00Z => "Axis Of Evil: Comedy Tour":"Amerikansk humorshow frÃ¥n 2007."
[19:17:39] mengoshmink: hmm I have no idea with that problem, anyone else?
[19:25:57] stuartm: I think sphery has gone the answer to this one bound to a key
[19:26:00] stuartm: got
[19:29:11] natanojl: stuartm: Yeah, I think so too :)
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[19:32:43] natanojl: I think this one describes it pretty well http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/556505#556505
[19:33:11] natanojl: erikswede: ^^^
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[20:13:37] sphery: natanojl / erikswed : yeah, that's the one I'd have linked
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[20:26:46] erikswed: Ok, I have to look into storage groups, thanks!
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[21:43:01] twiggy2cents: what should I do before upgrading from .26 to .27? Should I uninstall or just upgrade? (from source)
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[21:53:48] stuartm: make uninstall, then build/install as normal
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[21:55:10] stuartm: the make uninstall will just remove any old libs – they shouldn't do any harm but it's better to remove the temptation for the linker to pick the one ones
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[22:31:20] twiggy2cents: I cant seem to find mythweb for 0.27
[22:31:27] twiggy2cents: I dont see it in the repo either
[22:31:30] twiggy2cents: Am I overlooking it?
[22:33:06] twiggy2cents: nvm found it
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