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| [00:05:09] | JennieL: | Hi. I'm in MythTV frontend, v0_26. Commercial detection is simply not working on a couple of recordings. I want to completely disable it. In the UI, afaict, I can only select from various comm detect/slip methods — but how do I completely DISABLE it? |
| [00:05:23] | bill6502: | Qwazz: Yes, look at line 52 in the backend log you pasted: |
| [00:05:52] | bill6502: | Oct 25 11:53:34 Isys-Media mythbackend: mythbackend[2328]: ...: Group 'Videos' wants to use directory '/media/Media Drive/Review/Downloads/', but this directory is not writeable. |
| [00:06:30] | Qwazz: | Oh, so what do i need to do, to make it rightable? |
| [00:06:45] | Qwazz: | chmod a+g=rwx? |
| [00:09:14] | Qwazz: | I must be looking at the wrong thing, could I you send me the link, are you refering to bill6502 generated script all the undue long one? |
| [00:10:09] | ctmjr: | JennieL, on the frontend /setup/video/playback page 8 of 8 first line |
| [00:11:29] | Qwazz: | I mean, can I rerun ./RecentLogs? |
| [00:12:33] | bill6502: | as often as you like |
| [00:13:02] | JennieL: | ctmjr: Hi. Sorry, not sure how to get at that. I launch the Frontend, and my options are "TV/Videos/Setup". I select Setup, then ??? |
| [00:13:05] | Qwazz: | So what do I need to get backend happily sharing whatever media device/content is conected to it? |
| [00:14:00] | wagnerrp: | the device needs to be mounted, the directory needs to be defined in the Videos storage group, and the Video Library needs to scan it |
| [00:15:06] | Qwazz: | The device is mounted, I have placed it's path in the videos directory in setup and the scan can pick-up some of the videos |
| [00:15:42] | wagnerrp: | just some? not all? |
| [00:16:22] | ctmjr: | JennieL, then select Video then select playback then hit next till you get to page 8 it is the first line |
| [00:16:34] | JennieL: | There is no 'Video' |
| [00:16:56] | JennieL: | found it /setup/TV Settings/playback |
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| [00:17:39] | ctmjr: | must be theme driven |
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| [00:18:57] | wagnerrp: | the settings layout is hard coded |
| [00:19:54] | wagnerrp: | newegg really likes this bagged air crap |
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| [00:21:49] | Qwazz: | Frontend installed and seem to have come up with the settings of the previous installation vis IP address and password. |
| [00:22:31] | oobe: | Qwazz, when you uninstall software in ubuntu/debian it leaves the old configs behind |
| [00:22:39] | oobe: | check ~/.mythtv/config.xml |
| [00:22:44] | Qwazz: | No video library displayed, so what am I to do with line 52? |
| [00:22:55] | wagnerrp: | apparently graphics cards these days come with lots of stickers and wall posters |
| [00:23:03] | Qwazz: | oobe: Hi :-). |
| [00:23:09] | oobe: | hi Qwazz |
| [00:23:23] | bill6502: | Qwazz: you asked about: /var/lib/mythtv/videos, but you Videos Storage Group has (or also has) /media/Media Drive/Review/Download in it. |
| [00:23:54] | oobe: | also for future refererence if you uninstall something with the intention of wiping its old configurations you can use apt-get purge mythtv-frontend insead of remove that will wipe the old configs |
| [00:24:27] | wagnerrp: | "the evga geforce gtx700 series graphics is a cutting edge card that ships with the latest technology, including a full uefi bios" |
| [00:24:36] | wagnerrp: | hold on... i thought uefi was a system board thing |
| [00:24:42] | wagnerrp: | why would a graphics card have anything to do with it? |
| [00:25:08] | Qwazz: | bill6502: yes, there are no videos on /var/lib/mythtv/videos/ because I installed the OS on a separate 500GD HDD adn the videos files on a another /internal HDD, media drive/downlaods is an external. |
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| [00:25:30] | Qwazz: | oobe: What am I looking for in xml.config? |
| [00:25:49] | oobe: | depends what you want to chaneg in config.xml |
| [00:26:09] | oobe: | like what is wrong it cant find the host or doesnt know the correct passord? |
| [00:26:22] | ctmjr: | selling point? kinda like Gluten free |
| [00:26:27] | oobe: | I guess wagnerrp cards are getting more and more feature rich and have their own bios now |
| [00:26:29] | Qwazz: | Where exactly is it again? |
| [00:26:42] | oobe: | ~/.mythtv/config.xml |
| [00:27:15] | oobe: | it could also be in /etc/mythtv |
| [00:27:51] | Qwazz: | oobe: I suppose you mean on the newly installed frontend? |
| [00:28:09] | oobe: | also instead of making multiple storage groups you could try symlinking other folders into the one storage group folder to simplicity |
| [00:28:18] | oobe: | yea I did mean that Qwazz on the frontend |
| [00:28:36] | Qwazz: | or solving the storage directory issue bill6502 is helping me resolving? |
| [00:30:16] | Qwazz: | I've looked at the file both client and master and cannot see what I'd wanto change, IP address is correct and so is the port. |
| [00:32:15] | Qwazz: | I think that's exactly what I'd like to do. How do I do it? seem link to the /var/lib/mythtv/videos directory I think would be best. |
| [00:32:56] | oobe: | symlinking is done in linux like making a short cut but the filesystem treats it as if its really a complete path |
| [00:33:19] | oobe: | ln -s /path/to/folder /path/to/new/place is an example |
| [00:33:36] | Qwazz: | So go into /var/lib/mythtv/videos and create short cuts the folders in gui? |
| [00:34:45] | Qwazz: | oh wait that sounds like I need to know that command, so for example I have /media/Media Drive/Review/Downlaods for examaple and want it simlinked to /var/lib/mythtv videos? |
| [00:34:59] | bill6502: | Qwazz: to be clear, the Video Storage Group is on you master backend correct. And you want to store you videos in /var/lib/mythtv/videos, so that should be the only directory in the Videos Storage Group. No need for a symlink |
| [00:35:39] | Qwazz: | Yes, that's what I want to do but have no videos in /var/lib/mythtv/videos |
| [00:36:20] | bill6502: | Do you have videos stored somewhere else? |
| [00:36:47] | Qwazz: | Yes. |
| [00:37:20] | bill6502: | Is that /media/Media Drive/Review/Download? |
| [00:37:28] | Qwazz: | on separate HDD in the system and a removable HDD both mounted at /media/ by the system |
| [00:37:52] | Qwazz: | Yes it bill6502 |
| [00:37:57] | Qwazz: | Yes it is. |
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| [00:39:17] | bill6502: | Then your Videos Storage Group is set up correctly. The directory just isn't writeble, as the log entry said. There's nothing wrong with that, if you never intend for the user mythtv to write anything there. |
| [00:40:04] | Qwazz: | Not sure I understand, how do I make them writable to mythtv? |
| [00:40:38] | bill6502: | sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /media/Media Drive/Review/Downlaods |
| [00:41:02] | Qwazz: | and then only have /var/lib/mythtv/videos in the storgage directory as opposed to what I have now, where I have mapped to them in video storage directory in setup. |
| [00:42:31] | bill6502: | if you want them in /media/Media Drive/Review/Downlaods, then that's the only directory needed in the Videos Storage Group. Which you already have. |
| [00:43:27] | Qwazz: | But it's empty |
| [00:43:59] | bill6502: | We're going in circles. Where are the videos right now? |
| [00:44:00] | Qwazz: | how does changing owner make it accessible to mythtvbackend to share as it should. |
| [00:45:38] | Qwazz: | I only want the /var/lib/directory really and everything else /Media/Drive. etc are connected to that folder sold all their content can be shared. |
| [00:47:58] | bill6502: | OK, so right now, you have no videos? And, we are discussing Videos, not Recordings. |
| [00:48:05] | Qwazz: | The videos are in /media/Media Drive/Review/Downloads and /media/BLKID[not the drive with the OS]/Videos – There's nothing in /var/lib/mythtv |
| [00:49:01] | Qwazz: | yes videos not recordings. The drive with the OS to to be left largely epmty to accomodate recordings. Videos are on 1 internal and 1 external HDD. |
| [00:49:50] | Qwazz: | sorry the full path for the other is /media/BLKID/var/lib/mythtv/videos/ |
| [00:50:15] | Qwazz: | So, I'm not chowning, am I? |
| [00:51:02] | Qwazz: | And that's why I though simlinks were sounding like the solution? |
| [00:51:32] | bill6502: | OK, then the Videos Storage Group should have those two directories in it. You'd chown the directories if you want the user mythtv to be able to write to the directories. |
| [00:52:47] | bill6502: | Nothing wrong with symlinks, it just doesn't sound like you need them. You're storing the videos in 2 directories and if both directories are in the Videos Storage Group, then MythTV can see them. |
| [00:52:50] | Qwazz: | So I have put them in video storage directories already, so now I only need chown them and mythbackend will auto pickup and share. |
| [00:54:21] | bill6502: | Seems that I don't understand what "share" means in this case. Does something else need access to the videos? |
| [00:54:37] | Qwazz: | Yes, other frontends. |
| [00:55:16] | bill6502: | No need for that. The frontends 'talk' to the backend and it knows where the files are. |
| [00:55:30] | Qwazz: | What;s the synatax for chown sudo chown [folder] to [user]? |
| [00:55:47] | Hydr0p0nX: | sudo chown user:group folder |
| [00:56:57] | Qwazz: | okay, so it;s hard for me to corroborate. I am having a nighatmarish fonrtend install experience and I seem to be missing something cause I have added the directories in setup and now wanted to address line 52 in logs? |
| [00:57:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | whoa |
| [00:57:41] | Hydr0p0nX: | what directories did you add where ? |
| [00:57:46] | Qwazz: | so change [user]: chnage [group] |
| [00:58:20] | Qwazz: | In Mythtv setup I pointed to the directories containing video files. |
| [00:58:36] | Hydr0p0nX: | we're talking about the backend setup, right? |
| [00:58:58] | bill6502: | line 52 in your (much) earlier pastebin was complaining that the directory couldn't be written to. (/media/Media Drive/Review/Downloads) |
| [00:59:46] | Hydr0p0nX: | seeing how i've been dippin' in the mustard and have yet to ketchup, i'll shutup for the time being :) |
| [01:00:00] | Qwazz: | Right, so do I just chmod a+g=rwx it? |
| [01:01:24] | bill6502: | that's ok, assuming the owner/group are correct too. the command I pasted 19 minutes ago changed the owner/group: |
| [01:01:25] | bill6502: | sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /media/Media Drive/Review/Downlaods |
| [01:02:03] | Qwazz: | command complains, cannot access 'mythtv' |
| [01:02:28] | bill6502: | you are doing this on the backend right? |
| [01:02:34] | Qwazz: | yes |
| [01:03:15] | bill6502: | and you cut and pasted exactly what I suggested? |
| [01:03:32] | Qwazz: | I think so: |
| [01:04:13] | Qwazz: | sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /media/Media Drive/Review/Downloads |
| [01:04:35] | bill6502: | Ah, that path has a space in it |
| [01:04:56] | Qwazz: | says chown: cannot access 'mythtv;: No such file or directory. |
| [01:05:03] | bill6502: | so: sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /media/Media\ Drive/Review/Downloads |
| [01:05:05] | Qwazz: | yes "Media Drive" |
| [01:06:34] | Qwazz: | No such file or directory |
| [01:07:11] | bill6502: | cd /media/Media\ Drive |
| [01:08:14] | bill6502: | Qwazz: does that work ^^^ |
| [01:08:21] | Qwazz: | Not doing it |
| [01:08:51] | Qwazz: | even when i copy it in terminal and paste it if doesn't work, something's odd. |
| [01:09:02] | ctmjr: | because you have a space in /media/Media Drive/Review/Downloads you need to add "/media/Media Drive/Review/Downloads" |
| [01:09:15] | Qwazz: | I ls /media than I copy, type cd [paste] |
| [01:10:10] | Qwazz: | okay it works with " " |
| [01:10:19] | Qwazz: | I've cd into it. |
| [01:10:46] | bill6502: | ls -ld Review/Downloads |
| [01:11:39] | Qwazz: | drwxr-xr-x 198 mythtv mythtv 24576 Oct... |
| [01:12:53] | bill6502: | nothing wrong with that, looking back at your pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/6302957/ |
| [01:13:01] | Qwazz: | Does that mean I've chowned it? |
| [01:14:19] | bill6502: | It means it's OK now. But it wasn't in the pastebin. Next time you look at your log, the error shouldn't be there. |
| [01:14:19] | Qwazz: | well line 52 does say something about it not being writable. |
| [01:14:28] | Qwazz: | Oh, ok. |
| [01:15:31] | bill6502: | Unless mythbackend is also getting confused with the space in the path. I've never done that. |
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| [01:15:36] | Qwazz: | That's the old log. Now to the nightmare remote frontend install, and to check that the frontend is indeed sharing all content |
| [01:16:46] | Hydr0p0nX: | as long as your backend is configured to listen on something other than localhost, the front end shouldn't be that bad |
| [01:16:56] | Qwazz: | The install included a whole other Mysql, left root password blank and said to use will use with other machine. |
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| [01:17:42] | bill6502: | it's listening on 192.168.0.3, so should be OK |
| [01:17:49] | Qwazz: | It is at the moment, I could pull out my hair, sudo apt-get update suddendly has broken paths medibuntu amongst others, |
| [01:18:59] | Qwazz: | it was respwaning, as the previous, no videos coming through and it said no tv tuners configures, that's when it wasn't busy hanging... :-( |
| [01:19:41] | tgm4883: | Qwazz, medibuntu doesn't exist anymore |
| [01:20:46] | Qwazz: | Great, so why's it even coming up and autoremove or clean doesn't clear it – and so that'snot related to why the newly installed frontend isn't working? |
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| [01:22:26] | bill6502: | thinking you have mythbackend installed again. what does: status mythtv-backend say |
| [01:23:18] | Qwazz: | mythtv-backend start/running, process 2494 |
| [01:24:29] | bill6502: | on your new remote frontend, you have a backend runing. what does: mythfrontend --version say, just the line that starts with: MythTV Version : v0. |
| [01:25:01] | Qwazz: | I think so too, which is why I was asking how do to do frontend only installation. Installed through softwatre centre – came with a backend and was the wrong schema, I sudo get purge mythtv* and autoremove, then added the 0.27 PPA update, and the apt-get update |
| [01:25:59] | bill6502: | mythfrontend --version please |
| [01:26:57] | Qwazz: | get install mythtv, but it also brought mysql with it. Opened F/E gave it backend IP address and mythcinverg password, no videos, no tuner it says and that's when it not hang the he#% out of my frustration. |
| [01:27:46] | Qwazz: | MythTV Branch : fixes/0.27 |
| [01:27:48] | Qwazz: | Network Protocol : 77 |
| [01:27:50] | Qwazz: | Library API : 0.27.20131021–1 |
| [01:27:52] | Qwazz: | QT Version : 4.8.1 |
| [01:27:58] | bill6502: | Good! |
| [01:28:16] | Qwazz: | Really? |
| [01:28:33] | Qwazz: | Rather, I really hope so... |
| [01:28:41] | bill6502: | tgm4883: is there a proper way for him to remove the BE? I know how to stop it and remove /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf |
| [01:28:54] | tgm4883: | why are we removing the backend? |
| [01:29:24] | bill6502: | he's trying to install a remote FE. The BE is on another host and working. |
| [01:29:39] | Qwazz: | It's not needed but as indicated I simply wont run it but with things re-spawning themselves I wonder. |
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| [01:33:15] | bill6502: | Qwazz: for now: sudo stop mythtv-backend and pastebinit ~/.mythtv/config.xml please |
| [01:33:34] | Qwazz: | On the remote client? |
| [01:33:53] | bill6502: | remote |
| [01:34:03] | bill6502: | yes |
| [01:35:13] | Qwazz: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6303941/ |
| [01:36:18] | Qwazz: | The file seems to have the backend IP, proper password and ports. |
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| [01:39:12] | bill6502: | looks good, is the frontend end running? |
| [01:40:05] | Qwazz: | Yes – but it's hanging, if not video directory no videos, live tv, says no tuners. |
| [01:40:07] | tgm4883: | bill6502, will removing a backend would just be apt-get remove mythtv-backend, but I'm not entirely sure what exactly we're removing. Is it on a frontend? |
| [01:40:37] | bill6502: | tgm4883: yes, frontend only host |
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| [01:41:03] | tgm4883: | then yea, just doing an apt-get remove mythtv-backend on that machine will remove it |
| [01:41:19] | Qwazz: | I think I'll install mythbuntu-control centre ans set the role to frontend only and see how that works out. |
| [01:41:32] | bill6502: | Qwazz: do what tgm4883 said |
| [01:41:54] | bill6502: | sudo apt-get remove mythtv-backend |
| [01:42:28] | tgm4883: | it sounds an awful lot like his remote frontend is connecting to his backend that shouldn't exist |
| [01:42:47] | Qwazz: | Uninstalling... |
| [01:43:14] | Qwazz: | Seems I will need to reboot? |
| [01:43:21] | tgm4883: | shouldn't need to |
| [01:43:45] | tgm4883: | this isn't windows, you don't need to reboot every 3 seconds |
| [01:43:48] | Qwazz: | last line reads: ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot |
| [01:44:08] | tgm4883: | ok, do you need ureadahead to be reprofiled? |
| [01:44:21] | Qwazz: | Yeah, I used to happily think that, untill this installtion round. |
| [01:44:37] | Qwazz: | Don't what it is, so I guess not? |
| [01:44:51] | tgm4883: | Qwazz, well, I'm not entirely sure what you did, but I'm going to go with you did it wrong |
| [01:45:51] | Qwazz: | That'd be a good bet, and that's why I am in love with this thing... |
| [01:46:07] | bill6502: | so what's the frontend doing now? |
| [01:46:18] | bill6502: | mythfrontend that is |
| [01:47:26] | Qwazz: | The bit that's not so nice is hassling others, to help fix a mess I made, in all fairness I didn't even think I was even at the territory where I should be having challenges with basic functionality as an ordinary user. |
| [01:48:08] | Qwazz: | Videos are through :-) |
| [01:49:12] | Qwazz: | Tv good :-), Yay!!! Yay!!! Yay!!! :-). |
| [01:50:32] | Qwazz: | So know, to install the other F/E's I'll have to add 0.27 PAA, install the whole mythpack and then sudo remove the backend? |
| [01:52:50] | Qwazz: | All in All I am :-) :-), so untill I break something else or want to do something that's not on the internet, keep up the good work – gonna get a few hours zzz's catch F1 and look forward to finishing my first round, so far so good – TY :-). Later. |
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| [02:28:51] | Qwazz: | Hi again, I get a disabling audio message error opening audio device, video plays but there's no sound, surely this is a settings issue, right? The same is true for live tv. |
| [02:29:12] | Qwazz: | This is on newly installed frontend. |
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| [02:34:13] | Qwazz: | Also having an issue where livetv crashes on changing channels, with couldn't read the first 2048 bytes or irecoverable error or similar – this happens on both local and remote FE. Sound issue only remote BE. |
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| [02:43:32] | Qwazz: | Just saw this line in recent logs: Context audio/audiopulsehandler.cpp:322 (SuspendInternal) Pulse: PulseAudio resume OK. Not sure if it related? |
| [02:44:46] | Qwazz: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6304128/ |
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| [03:54:14] | Qwazz: | Just installed a second frontend (frontend only), connected to backend and same audio error reported. |
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| [04:23:45] | bill6502: | Qwazz: On your frontends, did you use Setup->Audio->Rescan and then try the available Audio output devices? |
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| [05:04:35] | Qwazz: | bill6502: No I didn't and as you say that I'm not sure where to go to do rescan or what command to use. |
| [05:06:14] | Qwazz: | How do I do it? |
| [05:07:37] | bill6502: | Start a frontend, select Setup then the rest of the screens above. It's all done from the frontend, no command line involved. |
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| [05:09:10] | Qwazz: | trying that now... |
| [05:11:08] | Qwazz: | That was it :-), TY, bill6502 :-). |
| [05:11:59] | bill6502: | np, good night |
| [05:12:03] | Qwazz: | So now here's a question how do get mythtv to give option to watch what's being watched by the other tuners if all tuners are busy? |
| [05:12:20] | Qwazz: | Good morning you mean, I'm in Africa (SA). |
| [05:13:13] | [R]: | everything is a recording |
| [05:13:15] | [R]: | so start the recording |
| [05:13:39] | Qwazz: | And is there anything I can do about the "failed to read first 2048 bytes" on the IPTV/Network tuner? |
| [05:14:20] | Qwazz: | I thought Mythtv was recording anyway, so only if I have specifically or am recording show will it them be available to other frontends? |
| [05:14:36] | [R]: | huh? |
| [05:15:07] | Qwazz: | R: huh? :-\ |
| [05:15:24] | [R]: | whatevery ou just said |
| [05:15:24] | ** parann0yed any one here using multiplex? ** | |
| [05:15:26] | [R]: | made abosultey no sense |
| [05:15:34] | [R]: | what is multiplex |
| [05:16:36] | Qwazz: | I am using a Happauge PVR-150 for analogue (tuner) OTA channels, then I have setup a network recorder too. What must I clarify? |
| [05:16:39] | ** parann0yed recording simultaneously on one tuner ** | |
| [05:16:49] | [R]: | Qwazz: huh? |
| [05:17:00] | [R]: | parann0yed: do you have an actual question? |
| [05:17:25] | Qwazz: | Well I think the card may provide for encoding but otherwise the these are http streams |
| [05:18:24] | ** parann0yed yes, I am using firewire and it works great for one recording. i understand i can record simultaneously from the same tuner if the channels have the same mplexid ** | |
| [05:18:42] | Qwazz: | Yes, the questions is; can I do anything about the network recorder crashing with "failed to read first 2048 bytes most commonly". Analogue seems to be working fine. |
| [05:19:01] | ** parann0yed but i don't see the option in tuner setup to set number of simultaneous recordings, so i wonder if it is possible with firewire ** | |
| [05:19:35] | [R]: | you can't do that on firewire |
| [05:19:43] | [R]: | only dvb |
| [05:20:04] | [R]: | Qwazz: if you found a bug in myth, make a bug report |
| [05:20:19] | ** parann0yed ok, i figured i was sol... ** | |
| [05:21:23] | ** parann0yed i'll research dvb, or just get another tuner and plug another firewire cable in. thanks for the answer. ** | |
| [05:22:09] | [R]: | i dobut your firewire device lets you plug multiple thigns into it |
| [05:22:16] | [R]: | and then gives you multiple tuners |
| [05:22:23] | Qwazz: | How do I know if it's a bug? Whether it's been filed already? etc? And then How do I submit a bug? Which I don't think it is. I think either my router needs a particular setting or I need change parametres somewhere for the handling of IP streams. |
| [05:22:35] | [R]: | its all on the website |
| [05:22:47] | [R]: | your using a remote tuner? |
| [05:22:55] | ** parann0yed i have two firewire ports. would i still be limited? ** | |
| [05:23:19] | [R]: | parann0yed: i've never heeard of a cable box that gives you 2 tuners over firewire |
| [05:24:06] | ** parann0yed that's why i said i might rent another tuner if i want to record more than one show at a time... ** | |
| [05:24:10] | wagnerrp: | you don't have to type "/me" every time you speak |
| [05:24:20] | [R]: | ROFL |
| [05:24:22] | [R]: | i dindt even notice that |
| [05:24:23] | bill6502: | Qwazz: I'm not aware of a way to " watch what's being watched by the other tuners" but once a recording is started, any (or all) frontends can watch the recording. I don't use IPTV, so no help there. And, it is really late on this side of the planet, to good night. |
| [05:24:28] | wagnerrp: | why would you bother with firewire? |
| [05:24:31] | wagnerrp: | just get a cablecard tuner |
| [05:24:34] | parann0yed: | ha |
| [05:24:36] | parann0yed: | ha ha |
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| [05:24:55] | Qwazz: | Is there a way to autorecord what's being watched so it is available to others FE? |
| [05:25:00] | parann0yed: | it's been a long time since i used bitchx |
| [05:25:16] | [R]: | Qwazz: myth is always recording... |
| [05:25:17] | wagnerrp: | Qwazz: everything mythtv does is recorded |
| [05:25:24] | parann0yed: | in face i was surprised to see it was available for centos6 |
| [05:25:26] | wagnerrp: | "livetv |
| [05:25:28] | parann0yed: | fact |
| [05:25:29] | wagnerrp: | " is a recording |
| [05:25:39] | Qwazz: | And is there "faield to read first 2048 bytes" on IP tuner really a bug? |
| [05:26:03] | wagnerrp: | you can go into the Watch Recordings screen, hit 'm' to edit the filter, and view all the livetv recordings |
| [05:26:33] | wagnerrp: | you can also hit the "record" button while viewing it to mark it for long term storage |
| [05:26:33] | Qwazz: | On F/E or BE? |
| [05:26:37] | parann0yed: | firewire was easy to use |
| [05:26:44] | parann0yed: | and it works great... |
| [05:27:12] | parann0yed: | i used to use hauppauge 350 cards... |
| [05:27:33] | wagnerrp: | a cablecard tuner lets you record multiple things with a single cablecard |
| [05:27:44] | wagnerrp: | and easily pays for itself by not having the expensive monthly rental of a cable box |
| [05:27:45] | parann0yed: | hmm |
| [05:28:07] | wagnerrp: | the card itself supports up to 6 channels |
| [05:28:12] | parann0yed: | can you tell me a brand of cablecard so i can look in to it? |
| [05:28:18] | wagnerrp: | the specific cablecard tuner might have 2, 3, or four tuners |
| [05:28:38] | [R]: | wagnerrp: we all know 'it fails for itself' never quite works out... its like that episode of i love lucy... where ricky wanted the fridge to call them when it was done paying for itself |
| [05:28:41] | [R]: | it pays* |
| [05:28:52] | wagnerrp: | bottom of the second paragraph http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Cablecard |
| [05:28:57] | parann0yed: | i've got comcast...thought i needed a tuner to watch tv |
| [05:29:11] | [R]: | you do... and a cablecard tuner is a tuner |
| [05:29:12] | parann0yed: | ok...i'll look |
| [05:29:18] | wagnerrp: | right now, your cable box is effectively functioning as a cablecard tuner |
| [05:29:28] | wagnerrp: | if you cracked the thing open, you would find a cablecard |
| [05:29:35] | [R]: | i can see my cablecard |
| [05:29:40] | [R]: | and its got this little green tape on it |
| [05:29:48] | [R]: | aparently to prevent me from removing it |
| [05:29:54] | parann0yed: | so if i got one of those i could pick up any channels provided by comcast? |
| [05:30:05] | wagnerrp: | any channels you can currently get over firewire |
| [05:30:16] | wagnerrp: | typically, everything but the premiums |
| [05:30:26] | parann0yed: | cool |
| [05:30:39] | parann0yed: | mostly for me it's the sports channels i want |
| [05:30:51] | parann0yed: | and things like pbs |
| [05:31:01] | Qwazz: | Got it. Sweet! |
| [05:31:19] | ** wagnerrp heads to bed ** | |
| [05:31:39] | Qwazz: | *Nyto* |
| [05:32:17] | parann0yed: | wagnerrp thanks for the tips |
| [05:32:29] | parann0yed: | and you too R |
| [05:32:39] | parann0yed: | not sure how to use this chat client... |
| [05:32:47] | parann0yed: | i'll have to learn again |
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| [05:33:44] | [R]: | you type your words |
| [05:33:46] | [R]: | and they show up |
| [05:35:42] | parann0yed: | that's right. i meant to say something specifically to someone's nick |
| [05:36:04] | [R]: | then you type it |
| [05:36:38] | parann0yed: | ok, i see that in the docs |
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| [05:37:15] | parann0yed: | i've always liked bitchx because you can initiate from the command line without needing a fat client |
| [05:37:21] | parann0yed: | like xchat |
| [05:37:31] | [R]: | huh? |
| [05:37:59] | parann0yed: | well, i just type BitchX at the CLI |
| [05:38:15] | parann0yed: | and the server I want |
| [05:38:37] | parann0yed: | vs having to start xchat in linux...though i like xchat too |
| [05:38:45] | wagnerrp: | i just have a spare monitor for xchat |
| [05:38:52] | [R]: | yeah... xchat is a real pain to start |
| [05:39:06] | parann0yed: | :) |
| [05:39:24] | wagnerrp: | it runs in a virtual framebuffer, and that framebuffer is attached to whatever X server i happen to be using at the moment |
| [05:39:32] | parann0yed: | when i first installed debian, a long time ago i found out about bitchx |
| [05:39:39] | wagnerrp: | it's like using screen, but the mouse works |
| [05:39:49] | parann0yed: | cool |
| [05:40:37] | parann0yed: | nice thing is, about bitchx is I am using it over ssh now from a chromebook |
| [05:41:04] | wagnerrp: | X can be pumped over SSH, or just the network without SSH |
| [05:43:51] | parann0yed: | sure... |
| [05:44:33] | parann0yed: | sometimes i use freenx if i want my desktop |
| [05:45:19] | parann0yed: | so i just started using mythtv again. but i can't run remote frontends reliably over wifi |
| [05:45:31] | [R]: | of course not |
| [05:45:44] | parann0yed: | unless i record in standard def, then it almost works |
| [05:46:30] | parann0yed: | but even over the supposed wired network it's very choppy...because i'm forced to use powerline adapters in our townhome |
| [05:46:38] | [R]: | lol |
| [05:46:50] | parann0yed: | i know...i miss my old home |
| [05:46:57] | [R]: | myth requires a stable link that is capable of sustained bw that is greater than the bitrate you are tryign to play |
| [05:46:58] | parann0yed: | had the whole thing wired |
| [05:47:12] | parann0yed: | and it worked excellent there |
| [05:47:44] | parann0yed: | i figured... |
| [05:48:07] | parann0yed: | it's not super important, it just would have been nice to watch from another room at times |
| [05:48:25] | parann0yed: | if i buy another house i'll probably wire it up |
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| [05:50:21] | parann0yed: | so this hauppauge dcr2650...would that work for me? |
| [05:50:37] | parann0yed: | looks like it has two tuners |
| [05:50:45] | [R]: | was that on the page wagnerrp linked? |
| [05:50:53] | parann0yed: | yes it is |
| [05:51:04] | [R]: | then i guess you have your answer |
| [05:51:49] | parann0yed: | it's a wild concept to me... |
| [05:52:00] | [R]: | reading a website? |
| [05:52:06] | [R]: | yeah... its a crazy idea |
| [05:52:19] | parann0yed: | so just plugging in the coax feed from comcast? |
| [05:52:38] | parann0yed: | i would need that right? |
| [05:52:46] | [R]: | no... it works with magic |
| [05:52:56] | [R]: | its no different then any other tuner... |
| [05:54:21] | parann0yed: | amazing |
| [05:55:36] | parann0yed: | the product page states it works with windows media center but i assume it is linux compatible |
| [05:56:21] | [R]: | well seeing as you were asking about myth |
| [05:56:23] | [R]: | and myth requires linux |
| [05:56:27] | [R]: | and it was linked from the myth website... |
| [05:56:57] | parann0yed: | i didn't want to go there but yes... |
| [05:57:22] | [R]: | you didnt want to go to common sense? |
| [05:57:25] | [R]: | yeah... i know it hurts sometimes |
| [05:57:41] | parann0yed: | because supposedly there have been win implementations of myth...at least someone tried doing it with windows |
| [05:57:55] | [R]: | mythfrontend works in windows |
| [05:57:58] | [R]: | thats pretty much it |
| [05:58:08] | parann0yed: | yeah, i used it in windows for a bit |
| [05:58:22] | parann0yed: | would crash now and then but it worked |
| [05:59:25] | parann0yed: | the site also says though i would still need to rent a digital cable card |
| [05:59:42] | parann0yed: | well, i'll read up on it |
| [05:59:42] | [R]: | of course |
| [05:59:50] | [R]: | hence cablecard tuner |
| [05:59:52] | [R]: | and not just tuner |
| [06:00:47] | parann0yed: | it's a new concept to me. i've only used myth with cable boxes and with directv |
| [06:02:16] | [R]: | you said you used a 350 |
| [06:02:18] | [R]: | a tuner is a tuner |
| [06:03:38] | parann0yed: | yeah...a 350. |
| [06:04:11] | parann0yed: | i plugged my directv tuners in to the 350s |
| [06:12:20] | parann0yed: | well i really appreciate your guys' help. i've got some reading to do but i'm glad i came here to ask about the firewire... |
| [06:12:43] | parann0yed: | it really does record great one channel at a time. |
| [06:13:36] | xris: | hmm, I think my hdhr is unhappy |
| [06:13:46] | [R]: | xris: maybe you need to take it out on the town |
| [06:14:01] | xris: | or apply a year or two worth of firmware updates. |
| [06:14:06] | [R]: | xris: maybe buy it some chocolates |
| [06:14:07] | xris: | and re-check my frequency tables |
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| [06:27:48] | parann0yed: | ok, i'm going to bed. good night |
| [06:28:05] | parann0yed: | or good something depending on where you are... |
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| [08:45:48] | louisdk: | Is it possible to only restore selected table(s) of a MythTV MySQL backup? |
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| [08:57:43] | oobe: | I love your nick louisdk |
| [08:57:49] | oobe: | I love louis ck |
| [08:59:33] | oobe: | I remember once I had recordings that were in a backup that had problems but I found a way to restore only the recordings table |
| [09:00:05] | oobe: | I dont recall the details perhaps I just dumped the specific tables and restored a backup that wasnt broken then restored the recordings table |
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| [09:08:21] | louisdk: | oobe: I'm searching the web. I want to restore my storagegroup table. I want to delete 2 entries from it but this command apparently nooked the hole table: delete from storagegroup where id = 18 OR 28 |
| [09:10:58] | louisdk: | Or more precise it cleaned the table. |
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| [09:16:23] | oobe: | yea I am sorry I dont really have any knowledge on the topic in depth whatever I needed to learn in the past I since forget and have to relearn as I need it I only offered that story to say it would be possible depending on what you wanted to achieve even if it means doing a full sql dump/backup then restoring the old backup then dumping just the table you wanted to restore to a file then restoring the newest backup you just made then dropping the t |
| [09:16:23] | oobe: | able you wish to replace then restore that partial backup you made. |
| [09:21:50] | oobe: | actually it would make more sense to do a full backup now (just to be safe) then get the backup you want the tables from and restore it to a different database name like mc2 then dump just the table/s you want to a sql then drop the tables you want to retore in mythconverg and restore the sql dump if it fails which it probably wont u still have a current backup. |
| [09:22:59] | oobe: | hope that makes sense. |
| [09:31:32] | louisdk: | Thanks that sounds like a great solution. |
| [09:42:04] | oobe: | np hope it works out. |
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| [09:59:28] | louisdk: | It does. Thanks :) |
| [10:05:20] | oobe: | awesome |
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| [15:16:06] | JennieL: | If I set Commercial Skipping == off in MythTV frontend, I understand that scheduling recordings USING MythTV will properly no flag comm breaks. |
| [15:17:17] | JennieL: | What happens if I use MythTV as a backend to another frontend? Doe "that" frontend need to turn off the Comm skipping? Or do the MythTV frontend's settings stick for other backends? |
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| [15:33:57] | Kwisher: | I believe comm skipping is specific to each frontend |
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| [15:38:33] | Kwisher: | JennieL: are you wanting comm skipping or are you not? |
| [15:47:46] | JennieL: | Kwisher: Hi. I'd like to turn it off everywhere, permanently. In all clients & backends. Figuring out how/where to do that has been ... challenging ... for me. |
| [15:48:49] | JennieL: | In MythTV I found & turned-off "Comm skipping jobs". TBH, not sure what that did ... just assumed it's closer to my goal. |
| [15:49:00] | Kwisher: | the backend is what runs the process so you will need to turn it off there |
| [15:49:55] | Kwisher: | that will kill the process from running so no comm's will be flagged |
| [15:50:20] | Kwisher: | you can test after making the changes in the be |
| [15:52:19] | JennieL: | Kwisher: And that no-more-flagging would/should stick for any/all client/frontends, right? If no flagging is DONE, then no comms are skipped — regardless of the fr's settings? |
| [15:52:52] | Kwisher: | i believe so, but you should do some testing |
| [15:53:12] | Kwisher: | do you use mythweb? |
| [15:53:31] | JennieL: | Kwisher: thx, will do. no, haven't yet used mythweb ... |
| [15:53:47] | JennieL: | is that a WebUI to FE or BE? |
| [15:54:05] | Kwisher: | mythweb is great for scheduling recordings |
| [15:54:13] | Kwisher: | it runs on the be |
| [15:54:28] | Kwisher: | accessible with a browser |
| [15:54:41] | Kwisher: | from any pc on your lan |
| [15:54:52] | JennieL: | Kwisher: I'll take a look, thx. I currently use XBMC's cmyth FE, but it's still a bit limited in scope ... |
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| [15:57:32] | JennieL: | of course, it needs a webserver. My myth be is on a nice/thin VM. offhand (i'll google ...), does mythweb run on/in nginx? |
| [16:00:30] | JennieL: | hm, unless the mythweb fe can run on any webserver, and connect to the remote be ... reading |
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| [16:09:42] | Kwisher: | how are you running a be on a vm? what type of tuners? |
| [16:11:54] | JennieL: | Kwisher: I've myth be installed on an opensuse 'minimal/server' install in a Xen guest. My tuners are ethernet connected HDHomeRuns. |
| [16:12:26] | JennieL: | Media dirs are autofs-mounted NFS shares. |
| [16:12:26] | [R]: | where is wagnerrp when you need him |
| [16:12:41] | JennieL: | works great |
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| [19:22:19] | wagnerrp: | Kwisher: before blindly following JennieL's advice, what do you expect to get by running MythTV in a VM? |
| [19:32:18] | Kwisher: | i'm not following his/her advice |
| [19:35:16] | ** wagnerrp is disappointed he doesn't get to go off on a tirade... ** | |
| [19:35:17] | wagnerrp: | :) |
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| [21:53:03] | Korny: | hmmm |
| [21:53:51] | Korny: | I always come back after a week or 2 "experimenting" with xbmc as a front end, and then I come back to myth front end and ask myself why I am drawn to the eye candy so much |
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