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| [00:04:25] | clever: | Hydr0p0nX: my new tv service is purely digital over ethernet, so ive been looking at just recording that |
| [00:04:34] | clever: | just running into issues with the crypto |
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| [00:37:18] | oobe: | wagnerrp, ok sorry I will |
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| [01:06:58] | Hydr0p0nX: | gaaa |
| [01:07:14] | Hydr0p0nX: | one episode of sleepy hollow refuses to schedule a recording |
| [01:13:25] | sphery: | what reason does it give? |
| [01:13:36] | sphery: | conflict or earlier/later or ? |
| [01:13:41] | sphery: | Hydr0p0nX: ^^^ |
| [01:13:54] | Hydr0p0nX: | no reason |
| [01:13:57] | Hydr0p0nX: | just wouldn't record |
| [01:14:09] | sphery: | it gives a reason |
| [01:14:09] | Hydr0p0nX: | had to set it to record explicitly |
| [01:14:24] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'm doing through the web |
| [01:14:25] | sphery: | in mythfrontend, Manage Recordings|Upcoming Recordings |
| [01:14:47] | Hydr0p0nX: | it looked like it took the schedule, then didn't show it in upcoming recordings |
| [01:14:53] | Hydr0p0nX: | but, i think i see why |
| [01:14:53] | sphery: | likely, though, it was because you prioritized things to do what it was doing, so it was goign to record it later |
| [01:15:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | i don't set priorities and have 4 tuners |
| [01:15:20] | sphery: | then doing an override to get that showing reshuffled the other stuff |
| [01:15:54] | Hydr0p0nX: | and that's the only recording for the entire day |
| [01:15:55] | sphery: | anyway, without the reason, I can't tell you what's happening |
| [01:16:14] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea i haven't started digging in logs yet |
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| [01:16:31] | sphery: | could also be that the episode had already started when you made the rule |
| [01:16:41] | Hydr0p0nX: | doesn't start til saturday |
| [01:16:45] | sphery: | so it refused to record that partial episode when it could wait and get a full one |
| [01:16:52] | sphery: | otherwise, it always records the first showing |
| [01:16:57] | Hydr0p0nX: | I think it's related to the title + season+episode matching a previously recorded title |
| [01:17:01] | sphery: | unless you prioritize things so that it does otherwise |
| [01:17:21] | sphery: | or, yeah, if it was a dup, it wouldn't record it |
| [01:17:31] | sphery: | unless you manually set an override |
| [01:17:36] | Hydr0p0nX: | not a dupe, just recognized as a dupe |
| [01:17:48] | sphery: | no, it's a dup |
| [01:18:04] | sphery: | if it doesn't record it due to dup matching |
| [01:18:24] | sphery: | but if the listings are wrong, it's still a dup to mythtv :) |
| [01:18:38] | sphery: | anyway, glad you have it working/recording |
| [01:18:47] | sphery: | is this one that I need to override, too? |
| [01:19:05] | sphery: | did one get messed up previously? |
| [01:19:10] | Hydr0p0nX: | looks like it may have |
| [01:19:21] | Hydr0p0nX: | episode 103 |
| [01:19:37] | Hydr0p0nX: | Sleepy Hollow: For the Triumph of Evil |
| [01:19:52] | sphery: | on Saturday? |
| [01:20:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea |
| [01:21:02] | sphery: | you mean Friday @ 9? |
| [01:21:17] | sphery: | mine is showing as a dup, too |
| [01:22:01] | Hydr0p0nX: | says Sat Oct 26, 2013, 02:00 PM |
| [01:22:23] | sphery: | I show that one as re-airing on Fri, Nov 1, @ 9pm |
| [01:22:41] | sphery: | I just started the recording of it I have, and it seems ok... |
| [01:22:45] | sphery: | not sure if it's the right one |
| [01:23:15] | Hydr0p0nX: | I don't see it as recorded |
| [01:23:16] | sphery: | yeah, the one I have seems right |
| [01:23:26] | sphery: | it's the sandman episode |
| [01:23:41] | sphery: | maybe it was a local issue with your stations |
| [01:23:53] | sphery: | thanks, though, for the heads up |
| [01:23:53] | Hydr0p0nX: | might've been |
| [01:23:57] | Hydr0p0nX: | i didn't have it |
| [01:24:10] | Hydr0p0nX: | but, there was an issue a few weeks back with the tuning adapter ... |
| [01:24:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | could be related |
| [01:24:34] | sphery: | I hate it when I'm watching a series a season or 2 after it starts and I have a missing part/all of an episode because of some broadcast interruption/rescheduling thing |
| [01:24:49] | Hydr0p0nX: | is frustrating |
| [01:25:01] | sphery: | yeah, glad you caught that you need this one |
| [01:25:10] | sphery: | anyway, good luck, and hope it records this time! |
| [01:25:34] | Hydr0p0nX: | we shall see :) |
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| [01:56:10] | plut0: | is there a fix for hdhr prime pixelation? |
| [02:00:13] | Hydr0p0nX: | pixelation ? |
| [02:00:22] | Hydr0p0nX: | using a cablecard ? |
| [02:01:10] | plut0: | Hydr0p0nX: yes and yes |
| [02:04:26] | Hydr0p0nX: | is it on all channels or just certain ones? |
| [02:04:42] | plut0: | Hydr0p0nX: some are worse than others |
| [02:05:15] | wagnerrp: | make sure any unused jacks are terminated |
| [02:05:23] | wagnerrp: | how many splits do you have? |
| [02:05:37] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea |
| [02:05:44] | Hydr0p0nX: | i was going the long way around :) |
| [02:05:51] | plut0: | too many |
| [02:06:03] | Hydr0p0nX: | what's too many ? |
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| [02:08:01] | plut0: | 2 splitters |
| [02:08:19] | plut0: | 5 on one, 8 on other |
| [02:08:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | any amplifiers? |
| [02:08:29] | wagnerrp: | amplified? |
| [02:08:31] | plut0: | no |
| [02:08:43] | wagnerrp: | that's probably too many |
| [02:09:00] | plut0: | wagnerrp: you think its the signal strength and not something else? |
| [02:09:38] | Hydr0p0nX: | how hard would it be to move the line in closer to the demarc ? |
| [02:09:58] | wagnerrp: | 13 devices off whatever the cable company gives you, that would be the first thing i would test |
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| [02:10:23] | plut0: | its verizon fios, they ran the lines and splitters |
| [02:10:47] | wagnerrp: | why do you even have 13 devices? |
| [02:13:27] | plut0: | so you think its signal? |
| [02:13:34] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea |
| [02:14:16] | Hydr0p0nX: | how big of a deal would it be to move the hdhr closer to the coax in ? |
| [02:15:03] | plut0: | can't really do that |
| [02:15:03] | Hydr0p0nX: | if it's easy/feasible, move it to either one of the lines off the first split |
| [02:15:17] | plut0: | i could ask for an amplifier i guess |
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| [02:15:53] | Hydr0p0nX: | only issue with an amplifier is if you're signal is even a little noisy, you're going to amplify the noise too |
| [02:16:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | so you'll need to hook it up as early as possible |
| [02:16:27] | wagnerrp: | and they typically don't work cable modems |
| [02:16:32] | plut0: | the pixelation comes and goes |
| [02:17:05] | wagnerrp: | you have to get a special "bidirectional" amp to work with cable modems |
| [02:17:38] | plut0: | does that make sense? |
| [02:18:06] | wagnerrp: | it means the signal is marginal |
| [02:18:20] | wagnerrp: | so periodic interference occasionally puts it over the limit |
| [02:18:24] | plut0: | ok |
| [02:18:53] | plut0: | could you tell by the signal strength reported from the hdhr prime? |
| [02:19:04] | Hydr0p0nX: | I can tell you what my ceton says |
| [02:19:06] | wagnerrp: | you can on the regular |
| [02:19:12] | wagnerrp: | i assume you can on a prime as well |
| [02:19:18] | Hydr0p0nX: | but, i only have 1 splitter w/ 4 runs |
| [02:19:33] | plut0: | i know you can view it, i'm asking what the threshold might be |
| [02:20:00] | wagnerrp: | on mine... signal quality under 70 means data loss |
| [02:20:31] | plut0: | wagnerrp: how do you know? just personal experience? |
| [02:21:05] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [02:21:13] | wagnerrp: | although... regular HDHR, not prime |
| [02:24:14] | plut0: | ok i'm on the channel that i'm having an issue with |
| [02:24:23] | plut0: | signal strenght is 87% |
| [02:25:12] | plut0: | its really bad |
| [02:25:21] | plut0: | strength is 87–88% |
| [02:25:28] | plut0: | that doesn't seem that low |
| [02:25:41] | wagnerrp: | for cable? i would expect it to be in the high 90s |
| [02:25:45] | wagnerrp: | what about signal quality? |
| [02:25:52] | plut0: | wagnerrp: FIOS |
| [02:26:01] | plut0: | wagnerrp: signal/symbol quality is 100% |
| [02:26:13] | wagnerrp: | fios is cable |
| [02:26:45] | plut0: | so you think that is too low still? |
| [02:27:10] | wagnerrp: | could you take a screen shot of the issue? |
| [02:27:51] | plut0: | let me see |
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| [02:34:37] | plut0: | wagnerrp: working on it |
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| [02:42:26] | plut0: | wagnerrp: ok i have a screenshot, where can i upload it? |
| [02:43:43] | wagnerrp: | anywhere you wish. i usually use snag.gy |
| [02:45:05] | plut0: | wagnerrp: http://snag.gy/dk48f.jpg |
| [02:46:34] | wagnerrp: | that's definitely corruption, not just poor compression... |
| [02:46:42] | wagnerrp: | how is your HDHR connected to your backend? |
| [02:48:00] | plut0: | gigabit switch, backend is a VM |
| [02:50:12] | plut0: | wagnerrp: what do you think it is? |
| [02:50:30] | wagnerrp: | i try to avoid anything VM |
| [02:52:42] | plut0: | wagnerrp: you think its the VM now? |
| [02:53:12] | wagnerrp: | it shouldn't be, since a VM should be capable of sensible networking |
| [02:53:55] | plut0: | wagnerrp: the signal is already encoded right? so its just writing to disk right? |
| [02:54:35] | wagnerrp: | well it is streaming over UDP, so any pauses or overloaded networks will cause loss |
| [02:55:27] | plut0: | i highly doubt 1 hdhr is overloading the VM's network |
| [02:55:41] | plut0: | that's what, <1MB/s ? |
| [02:56:03] | wagnerrp: | ~2MB/s per recording |
| [02:56:14] | plut0: | for high def? |
| [02:56:24] | wagnerrp: | generally, once you hit about 75% saturation on the link, you'll start dropping UDP |
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| [03:02:09] | plut0: | wagnerrp: the VM is hitting about 60mbit/s and i'm reproducing the issue, i don't think its the network |
| [03:02:57] | [R]: | rofl |
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| [03:04:02] | plut0: | wagnerrp: hdhr reports a stream of ~12mbps |
| [03:04:19] | plut0: | wagnerrp: 87% signal |
| [03:04:30] | plut0: | pixelating every now and then |
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| [03:07:17] | plut0: | anymore ideas? |
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| [05:27:34] | lapion: | ok now i have a dilemma, there is a series that runs weekly on two channels at the same time however one of the channels is annalog the other one is digital, how can i prevent the system from recording from both channels simultaneously? |
| [05:28:26] | [R]: | set a rule for the channel |
| [05:29:51] | lapion: | the same two channels have different programs running at the same time where the analog one will air new versions while the digital one will only do ancient reruns. |
| [05:30:27] | [R]: | ok...? |
| [05:34:25] | lapion: | never mind that last problem.. the analog one has a lower priority yet still there is no rule that allow to record one episode weekly |
| [05:35:12] | lapion: | a basic rule, one where i only need to program a recording without need for further rule amendments |
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| [05:40:29] | lapion: | it used to be possible to select that i would like one recording weekly of a show, and that meant that automatically the highest priority channel would be used. |
| [05:41:17] | lapion: | and or either the rerun or the new episode would be recorded |
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| [05:46:46] | lapion: | I am wondering why the the capability to select on daily or weekly basis, or even timeslot basis is removed. |
| [05:49:08] | lapion: | i mean there are many channels where once a week they show an episode thats new, the rest of the week they are showing old episodes, however they only give generic show info |
| [05:49:09] | [R]: | in the changelogs they explain why certain features were removed and generally how to emulate them |
| [05:49:24] | [R]: | blame your guide |
| [05:50:37] | lapion: | i read the changelogs bu you cannot expect me to be the only one programming recordings for everyone. |
| [05:51:12] | [R]: | huh? |
| [05:51:39] | lapion: | in the household |
| [05:51:52] | [R]: | ? |
| [05:54:47] | lapion: | how am i supposed to explain to the others how to make a weekly recording that doesn't record from both the fta digital and the analog channel at the same time? |
| [05:55:47] | lapion: | the digital channel has embedded guide, and e analog one use a site-rip |
| [05:56:18] | lapion: | maybe this would work if the analog could use the programming info from the digital one. |
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| [05:56:30] | [R]: | [10:49:09] [R] in the changelogs they explain why certain features were removed and generally how to emulate them |
| [05:58:05] | lapion: | yeah this means i will to program every recording for the others as well, cannot very expect them to read the changelogs and learn how to manage complicate recording rules |
| [05:58:37] | [R]: | they dont need to read antyhing |
| [05:58:42] | [R]: | you need to read it, and then tell tehm what to do |
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| [06:01:39] | lapion: | too complicated for them. they just want to press R while looking i. the schedule the apropriate amount of times until they have the correct option. |
| [06:01:53] | [R]: | ok well... complaining in here isn't going to do anything |
| [06:01:57] | [R]: | so dunno what to tell you |
| [06:03:38] | lapion: | can recording profiles be addedto the list? |
| [06:04:44] | [R]: | huh? |
| [06:06:46] | lapion: | i mean is there any way for me to add the old behaviour without patching the source? |
| [06:06:58] | [R]: | i dont like repeating myuself |
| [06:07:00] | [R]: | so i wont |
| [06:09:06] | lapion: | well in this case less is not more. |
| [06:10:39] | lapion: | i would think the goal of a dvr was to make thing less complicated than programming a vcr |
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| [06:14:12] | lapion: | ok i see allready, you have to press enter to automatilcallynadd the channel filter |
| [06:15:29] | lapion: | but if i pressed edit how do i change the behaviour afterwards? |
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| [15:41:06] | dashs: | Are there any know Debian 7 (gcc 4.7) build issues? |
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| [16:57:17] | oobe: | Qwazz, how are things going? |
| [16:58:12] | oobe: | I forgot to mention yesterday the reason I was surprised tpg iptv worked for you is cause its meant for its isp customers only and I was surprised it allowed it to be used by an ip range outside australia neither lone someone not using tpg. |
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| [17:21:29] | dashs: | E [16359/16359] CoreContext audio/audiooutput.cpp:242 (Error) – AudioOutput Error: AOOSS: Error opening audio device (): |
| [17:21:30] | dashs: | eno: No such file or directory (2) |
| [17:22:13] | dashs: | Why am I getting this — regular audio works fine; stream fails horribly. |
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| [18:38:15] | jm|laptop: | dashs: I'd check your Audio output settings and make sure nothing else is holding the soundcard (OSS) open |
| [18:38:25] | jm|laptop: | esd / pulse / jackd / aoss |
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| [19:32:02] | Qwazz: | Hi All, my mythbackend is not discoverable hence cannot connect frontends. This is odd since mythtv does this automatically. I'm testing with Andriod frontend (which requires only IP:Port). Is there a file with an incorrect setting preventing the backend from serving the network? |
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| [20:07:04] | bill6502: | Qwazz: What distribution are you running. If Ubuntu, is avahi running (ps ax|grep avahi|grep -v grep is a good test) |
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| [20:08:06] | bill6502: | Also, the output of: ps ax|grep mythbackend|grep -v grep to see if upnp is turned off |
| [20:09:04] | Qwazz: | bill6502: I am Mythbhuntu 12.04 with 0.27 Mythtv. |
| [20:10:01] | bill6502: | OK, please do those 2 commands. |
| [20:10:29] | Qwazz: | The command returns that there are instances of mythbackend |
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| [20:11:37] | bill6502: | That's good, I'd only expect one, can you pastebin the output, or if it's less than 3 lines, put it here. |
| [20:11:55] | Qwazz: | I am running the command as ps ax | grep mythtvbackend, is this correct when do I use the -v switch? |
| [20:13:19] | Qwazz: | How do I pastebin? e.g. plastebinit ps ax | grep * I get command not found. |
| [20:13:29] | bill6502: | The whole command: ps ax|grep mythbackend|grep -v grep just gets rid of the matching grep command |
| [20:13:37] | bill6502: | ps ax|grep mythbackend|grep -v grep|pastebinit |
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| [20:15:05] | Qwazz: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6302590/ |
| [20:16:05] | bill6502: | Good. Now this one: |
| [20:16:08] | bill6502: | ps ax|grep avahi|grep -v grep |
| [20:16:39] | bill6502: | you should only see 2 lines, so put them here (or in a pastebin, whichever you like) |
| [20:17:40] | Qwazz: | There are only two lines, pastebin 6302597 |
| [20:17:58] | Qwazz: | Hope that's a good thing :-) |
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| [20:18:56] | bill6502: | Your Master Backend hostname is: Isys-Media.local correct? |
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| [20:19:28] | Qwazz: | Isys-Media yes, not sure I understand the .local bit. |
| [20:19:39] | clever: | .local is a TLD for avahi |
| [20:20:00] | bill6502: | tnx |
| [20:20:04] | clever: | anything under .local gets resolved via mdns |
| [20:20:35] | Qwazz: | mdns? |
| [20:20:56] | bill6502: | Qwazz: From a browser, try this: |
| [20:21:01] | bill6502: | <ReplaceWithYourMasterBackend>:6544/Myth/GetHostName |
| [20:21:02] | clever: | multicast dns |
| [20:21:47] | Qwazz: | Do I include the .local in the host name of just Isys-Media? |
| [20:22:05] | clever: | just use the ip |
| [20:22:23] | bill6502: | either, try without the .local, or the ip, makes no difference |
| [20:22:40] | clever: | .local only works if the dns stuff has been setup fully |
| [20:26:08] | Qwazz: | Okay, tried with the host name, with no .local, tried with IP address on a remote browser I got; XML file does not... styile... : <String>Isys-Media</String> |
| [20:27:58] | bill6502: | That's good. |
| [20:28:37] | Qwazz: | Okay :-), what's netx? |
| [20:29:09] | bill6502: | Tell me more about your original problem. MythTV Android Frontend uses the GetHostName to see if the backend is up. |
| [20:29:33] | Qwazz: | oddly on the local machine (with mythtv installation), the browser there isn't resolving. |
| [20:30:17] | bill6502: | In fact, are were you talking about MythTV Android Frontend? Originally you wrote: "Andriod frontend" |
| [20:31:56] | Qwazz: | I am trying to use the MythTV frontend app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mythtv), scanning for the backend fails. inputting the IP : Port 192.168.0.x:6543 fails as well. |
| [20:33:31] | Qwazz: | I also tried to setup a remote frontend and another backend was installed with it, without picking up that there already is a masterbackend. |
| [20:33:38] | bill6502: | OK, I use it too, with 0.27 (actually 0.28-pre) and MythTV Android Frontend version 1.20.3. But 1.10.1 worked OK too. |
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| [20:34:40] | bill6502: | When you did the GetHostName test on a local browser, did you use an IP address, or your hostname? |
| [20:36:06] | Qwazz: | I tried both, it returned nothing. |
| [20:36:29] | Qwazz: | So I figure mybackend is not doing something it should be doing? |
| [20:37:07] | bill6502: | We know from a remote browser (in your 1st GetHostName test) that the backend is responding correctly. |
| [20:37:14] | Qwazz: | I also tried it with the .local annex |
| [20:38:02] | clever: | i just tried it on my end, and the scan button cant find my backend either |
| [20:38:15] | bill6502: | Can you put the most recent backend session in a paste bin. |
| [20:38:31] | bill6502: | clever: What version of MAF? |
| [20:38:57] | bill6502: | and what version of MythTV? |
| [20:39:02] | clever: | latest off the play store |
| [20:39:08] | Qwazz: | pastebinit /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log? |
| [20:39:12] | clever: | 2013-10–25 13:36:45.591781 C mythtv-setup version: master [v0.27-alpha-139-g032d763-dirty] www.mythtv.org |
| [20:39:50] | bill6502: | clever: There are 2 versions at the play store, 1.10.1, and the beta 1.20.3 |
| [20:40:02] | clever: | mine has beta in the icon |
| [20:40:42] | bill6502: | clever: 0.27, the Bonjour name was changed, so 1.10.1 won't see it (and will also fail on the Recording Rules page) |
| [20:41:02] | clever: | ah |
| [20:41:09] | clever: | i do need to upgrade mythtv, its pretty old |
| [20:41:45] | clever: | a quick check with tcpdump reveals that the android is trying to find _mythbackend-master._tcp.local |
| [20:41:48] | bill6502: | Both have the beta icon if your screens look like:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mythtv then you've got 1.20.x |
| [20:42:18] | clever: | and a quick check with avahi-browse, reveals nothing at all |
| [20:42:37] | clever: | let me check for a .service file |
| [20:43:11] | bill6502: | ah, v0.27-alpha, I don't remember when the commit was done to change the Bonjour name, but you don't have the new one. That's a pretty old release. |
| [20:43:46] | Qwazz: | backend logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/63027388/ |
| [20:43:55] | clever: | yeah, i'm not seeing any trace of it being active on mdns |
| [20:44:02] | bill6502: | Qwazz: not the whole /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log, just the most recent run. |
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| [20:44:26] | Qwazz: | Sorry, how do I do the most recent run? |
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| [20:46:53] | bill6502: | Qwazz: Try downloading this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6302754/ |
| [20:47:02] | clever: | bill6502: hmmm, i checked the source, and mythtv should be using the same name that the android app looks for, *digs more* |
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| [20:47:32] | bill6502: | save it to a file, make it executable and run it like: whateverFileNameYouChoose mythbackend |
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| [20:49:02] | clever: | Qwazz: try this command, avahi-browse -at | pastebinit |
| [20:49:14] | bill6502: | clever: 1.10.1 looks for mythbackend-master, 1.20.3 looks for that and for the 0.27 version: mythbackend with master or slave in the TXT fielld |
| [20:49:54] | clever: | bill6502: i think the issue on my end, is that i installed avahi after i compiled myth, so that part of myth is disabled |
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| [20:50:07] | clever: | and the command i gave Qwazz will verify similar issues |
| [20:50:28] | Qwazz: | I get, command not found. |
| [20:50:31] | bill6502: | installing avahi later is OK, are you building from source |
| [20:50:41] | bill6502: | clever: ^^^ |
| [20:50:49] | clever: | i did, pure source, gentoo! |
| [20:51:03] | Qwazz: | for avahi-browse-at | pastebin |
| [20:51:27] | Qwazz: | Downloading file... |
| [20:51:29] | bill6502: | clever: Qwazz brb |
| [20:51:31] | clever: | Qwazz: there is a space between avahi-browse and -at |
| [20:52:27] | bill6502: | clever: https://github.com/MythTV-Clients/MythTV-Andr . . . -Suggestions Note especially the part about: libdnssd-dev |
| [20:53:02] | clever: | bill6502: there are no -dev packages in gentoo, all packages include dev headers |
| [20:53:04] | bill6502: | Qwazz: try: ./whateverFileNameYouChoose mythbackend |
| [20:53:35] | Qwazz: | avahi: command not found, you are trying to send empty document, exiiting – is what I get. |
| [20:54:05] | clever: | Qwazz: the command is avahi-browse -at, not avahi .... |
| [20:54:15] | bill6502: | clever: mythfrontend --version. Does the string: using_libdns_sd appear |
| [20:54:34] | clever: | bill6502: when i re-run configure, its still disabled, let me find dns_sd.h |
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| [20:56:19] | Qwazz: | Thanks clever: Now I get "the program 'avahi-browse' is not installed". |
| [20:56:28] | clever: | install time! |
| [20:56:42] | clever: | bill6502: looks like i need to enable mdnsresponder-compat within the avahi package, *reinstalls* |
| [20:56:47] | Qwazz: | sudo apt-get install avahi-browse? |
| [20:57:11] | clever: | Qwazz: that error message should tell you what package to install |
| [20:57:17] | clever: | try just running avahi-browse directly |
| [20:57:40] | Qwazz: | yes, avahi-utils, it says. Installing... |
| [20:58:02] | clever: | thats one part of ubuntu that i miss, i havent found anything similar in gentoo |
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| [20:59:00] | Qwazz: | installed. re runnind command avahi-brwose at | pastebinit. |
| [20:59:21] | clever: | -at, not at |
| [21:00:01] | Qwazz: | Thanks :-), running... |
| [21:00:13] | Qwazz: | 6302825 |
| [21:00:28] | clever: | whats the full link? |
| [21:00:47] | Qwazz: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6302825/ |
| [21:01:27] | clever: | so your backend is advertising itself as _mythbackend._tcp, and when i ran the android app, it was looking for _mythbackend-master._tcp |
| [21:01:47] | clever: | assuming you have the same version of the android app as me, that would be the problem |
| [21:01:57] | bill6502: | that's the 0.27/pre 0.27 difference |
| [21:02:32] | clever: | sakura ~ # tcpdump -pn -i eth0 port 5353 |
| [21:02:34] | clever: | 14:02:28.344553 IP 192.168.2.23.5353 > 224.0.0.251.5353: 0 PTR (QM)? _mythbackend-master._tcp.local. (48) |
| [21:02:38] | Qwazz: | Not sure I am follwing. What do I need to do. I would like to setup other frontends. |
| [21:02:44] | clever: | this is what things look like when i run the android app |
| [21:03:09] | Qwazz: | clever: how do get that? |
| [21:03:20] | clever: | the first line i pasted was a command i ran in a terminal |
| [21:03:28] | clever: | and the 2nd line comes up when i told the android app to scan |
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| [21:04:47] | Oleg_: | looks like I can't trust the auto-skip option for commercials because mythtv sometimes skips parts that are without commercials |
| [21:04:55] | Qwazz: | What does it all mean? The Mythbox is broadcasting a different name to that expected by the clients? How is it rectified. I'd like my machine to so eager to serve content, do device is spared... :-). |
| [21:05:16] | clever: | bill6502: yep, i had to enable mdnsresponder-compat flag, now to recompile myth |
| [21:05:55] | Qwazz: | There's recompiling to be done? Is that as hectic as it sounds? Am I in the same boat? |
| [21:06:02] | clever: | Qwazz: the name in the source was changed, assuming you have the same android app as i do, the problem is that the 2 apps are not compatible with eachother |
| [21:06:18] | clever: | avahi-browse returned your backend, so you dont have to recompile it |
| [21:06:32] | clever: | in my case, avahi was entirely disabled at compile time |
| [21:07:02] | clever: | Qwazz: what version of mythtv do you have? |
| [21:07:07] | bill6502: | Qwazz: did you retry: ./whateverFileNameYouChoose mythbackend |
| [21:07:24] | Qwazz: | They are not compatibe – so use a different app then? But then still leaves me out, cause I thought when the android app conencted all services would be and running proper and I could go ahead and setup other frontends. |
| [21:07:41] | Qwazz: | No, I did not, sorry I think I missed that. |
| [21:09:49] | Qwazz: | seems I have to log into launchpad not sure I have credentials... |
| [21:10:02] | clever: | Qwazz: what version of mythtv do you have? |
| [21:10:16] | bill6502: | Qwazz: clever: If you join the Google+ group: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/org.mythtv you can get the 1.20.3 version of MAF |
| [21:13:59] | bill6502: | Qwazz: but for now, I just need to see the most recent run of the backend. If the command above works, you can run it again like this: |
| [21:14:04] | bill6502: | ./whateverFileNameYouChoose mythbackend|pastebinit |
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| [21:17:27] | Qwazz: | I am still stuck on getting the file down as a normal txt and then making a executable. it's opening in the browser now, even after the launchpad loggin prompt. |
| [21:19:42] | clever: | Qwazz: what version of mythtv do you have? |
| [21:19:50] | bill6502: | Qwazz: I see, you can just highlight it with your mouse and copy it, or if that doesn't work, I'll put it in another pastebin. |
| [21:20:23] | Qwazz: | Clever: Oh, I am on Mybuntu 12.04, Mythtv 0.27. |
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| [21:22:15] | bill6502: | clever: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/d538503/mythtv was the Bonjour name change and TXT addition. |
| [21:22:18] | Qwazz: | okay, where do I place it? and do I run chmod a+x file name, then the /.file mythbackend | pastebinit? |
| [21:24:05] | bill6502: | Qwazz: anywhere you like, and yes, but just do ./file mythbackend 1st. It should get the most recent run of your backend. NOTE that's ./, not /. |
| [21:24:12] | Qwazz: | I've copied pasted, saved as "RecentLogs" in /home/user/ |
| [21:24:27] | clever: | bill6502: looks like i dont have that one yet |
| [21:25:19] | bill6502: | clever: it came out very late in the development schedule |
| [21:26:50] | Qwazz: | Have run first part, lots of output |
| [21:27:18] | Qwazz: | how do I pastebinit, same command with | pastebinit on the end? |
| [21:27:44] | bill6502: | Qwazz: yes: ./file mythbackend | pastebinit |
| [21:28:38] | bill6502: | The intent of the program is to get the very last run of the backend, as opposed to putting the entire backend log in a pastebin. |
| [21:28:47] | Qwazz: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6302957/ |
| [21:29:04] | Qwazz: | So I can keep it? |
| [21:29:25] | Qwazz: | the script/program? |
| [21:30:14] | Qwazz: | It still looks like a lot of output though, for a machine that hasn't been doing much... |
| [21:31:01] | bill6502: | Yes, you can keep it. I wrote it for another user who kept pasting the same 80,000 line log file. Note that when you ran it, there were 28018 lines in the log, but only 4231 in the most recent run. |
| [21:32:24] | Qwazz: | Well, that makes sense, at least if I knew how to read my logs proper, I would only ever wanted up to the point things changed kind of report. |
| [21:33:01] | Qwazz: | Can I run on anything say frontend instead of backend? |
| [21:33:39] | bill6502: | yes, just type the command with no log name for a tiny help message |
| [21:34:29] | Qwazz: | Cool, :-). Thanks. So what do the logs say? What should I go change where? and knowing why would be great... |
| [21:37:04] | bill6502: | The log tells a lot. Actual version, what the backend is listening on, that upnp isn't disabled. All of which are good. So, let's get back to the MAF problem. |
| [21:37:05] | Qwazz: | oh, I don't think I sent it, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6302957/ |
| [21:37:20] | bill6502: | yes you did |
| [21:37:54] | Qwazz: | Okay, to the frontend problem.. |
| [21:38:25] | Qwazz: | And yes, I think I am using the same one, labaled "beta". |
| [21:39:46] | bill6502: | Beta, unfortunately is misleading. The icon has beta in it, but that's true in both 1.10.1 and 1.20.3 which beta testers get. |
| [21:40:01] | bill6502: | For the FE, use the same tool and pastebin the logs please |
| [21:41:01] | Qwazz: | Okay. I hadn't installed them yet, thinking the MAF App, could signal I could install the other frontends. |
| [21:41:39] | bill6502: | We can stay with MAF, but you have to configure it manually |
| [21:41:40] | Qwazz: | When I did though, a whole backend was installed along with it and did not seem t pickup that there already was a master on the network? |
| [21:42:15] | Qwazz: | Okay, manually... I give it the IP and the Port and still fails to connect. |
| [21:42:38] | bill6502: | to be clear, what port did you use? |
| [21:42:45] | Qwazz: | 6543 |
| [21:43:28] | bill6502: | OK, actually, you only need to put in the IP address, MAF wil pick the proper port for you. |
| [21:44:24] | Qwazz: | Still says, masterbackend could not be reached. |
| [21:44:56] | bill6502: | Does you current MAF configuration say: 192.168.0.3:6543 ? |
| [21:47:47] | bill6502: | Sorry, 192.168.0.3:6544 |
| [21:48:19] | Qwazz: | Yes, that's what I am putting in. |
| [21:48:37] | bill6502: | Do you have a browser on your Android device? |
| [21:48:48] | Qwazz: | yes, I do. |
| [21:49:29] | bill6502: | Did you try that GetHostName with that browser or was that done on some other host? |
| [21:49:56] | Qwazz: | Another host (on which I wish to install a frontend). |
| [21:50:41] | Qwazz: | I did, get to mythweb via IP in the browser on the device though. |
| [21:50:51] | bill6502: | From your Android browser, what does this give you: 192.168.0.3:6544 |
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| [21:52:57] | Qwazz: | The web page at http://192.168.0.3:6544 might be temporarily down, it says. |
| [21:53:51] | bill6502: | Should have been a MythTV Status screen. This isn't a MAF problem. Can you go to something like yahoo.com from the same browser? |
| [21:54:17] | Qwazz: | Yes, I can. |
| [21:55:29] | bill6502: | Hmmm, firewall or Mythbuntu UFW? |
| [21:57:02] | Qwazz: | Am not following, the frontend is right, the backend is doing what it's supposed to be doing? And so my router or an OS setting causing the issue? |
| [21:57:40] | bill6502: | MAF connects over your network. |
| [21:57:55] | Qwazz: | Yes. |
| [21:58:26] | bill6502: | That's why I was asking about a firewall. |
| [21:58:36] | bill6502: | What does: sudo ufw status numbered say |
| [21:59:24] | Qwazz: | inactive |
| [21:59:35] | Qwazz: | Status: inactive |
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| [22:00:14] | bill6502: | Got it. Do you have another host running (other than the backend?) |
| [22:00:38] | Qwazz: | I did, have installed it. |
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| [22:00:52] | Qwazz: | Was a test on a dektop installation. |
| [22:01:42] | bill6502: | So, not available now. Do you know if you could ssh into your backend from that host? |
| [22:02:31] | Qwazz: | Not sure I understand bill6502... |
| [22:02:54] | Qwazz: | in mythbuntu-contro; centre I have enabled SSH. |
| [22:03:02] | bill6502: | Just looking for another way to test connectivity to your backend. |
| [22:03:24] | Qwazz: | And I've never used SSH. I did enable VNC |
| [22:03:30] | bill6502: | If you have no other host, then MAF is the only tool available to test with. |
| [22:03:57] | Qwazz: | How do I do it? |
| [22:04:51] | bill6502: | We just did, with the browser, and that works (right now,) but 192.168.0.3:6544 fails. |
| [22:05:09] | bill6502: | *with yahoo.com right now |
| [22:05:28] | Qwazz: | My latop browser on the same nework goes there just fine to the Myth Backend status page. |
| [22:06:14] | Qwazz: | And would like to have a frontend only installation on it as well. |
| [22:06:28] | bill6502: | Ah, but not your Android device? |
| [22:06:36] | Qwazz: | right. |
| [22:07:12] | bill6502: | Didn't you say you could get to mythweb? |
| [22:09:29] | bill6502: | I'm wondering if ports 6544 is closed somewhere, but port 80 is open. |
| [22:10:05] | clever: | try opening 192.168.x.y:6544 in your browser |
| [22:10:26] | clever: | it gives me a bunch of info |
| [22:10:55] | Qwazz: | Server not found |
| [22:11:10] | bill6502: | Sorry, 6543 is for MAF (the Services API) |
| [22:11:18] | wagnerrp: | MAF? |
| [22:11:29] | bill6502: | MythTV Android Frontend |
| [22:11:33] | wagnerrp: | oh |
| [22:11:38] | wagnerrp: | 6543 is the internal protocol |
| [22:11:46] | wagnerrp: | services API is on 6544 |
| [22:11:58] | bill6502: | got tired of typing/cut pasting it |
| [22:12:30] | Qwazz: | So not to try 6543? |
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| [22:13:32] | Qwazz: | Tried a different browser on Andriod device responds "server timed out:. |
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| [22:14:13] | wagnerrp: | timed out means it's not there, or you have a firewall blackholing everything |
| [22:14:20] | wagnerrp: | a properly behaving machine should refuse connection |
| [22:14:47] | Qwazz: | So my machine is behaving properly? |
| [22:14:55] | wagnerrp: | apparently not |
| [22:15:24] | Qwazz: | But it's refusing connections? |
| [22:15:30] | wagnerrp: | no, it's timing out |
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| [22:16:10] | Qwazz: | Oh, so how do I get it to behave properly and be decisive. |
| [22:16:20] | wagnerrp: | well first, is the address even correct? |
| [22:16:54] | Qwazz: | yes it is -ifconfig |
| [22:17:08] | wagnerrp: | and you can ping it from another machine? |
| [22:18:07] | Qwazz: | Yes. |
| [22:18:40] | wagnerrp: | then the only explanation for a timeout on any port on that machine is because you have a firewall up |
| [22:19:03] | wagnerrp: | and rather than refusing connections like a well behaved networked device, it is ignoring them outright, against better judgement |
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| [22:20:12] | Qwazz: | My machine or my router and how do I correct the behaviour, infact to be the opposite to be happy go lucky sharing anything any device on the network happily. |
| [22:20:43] | wagnerrp: | your machine |
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| [22:21:14] | wagnerrp: | if you have your devices connected through a router... well then that's a whole other host of issues |
| [22:21:34] | bill6502: | we proved that ip:6544/Myth/GetHostName works on the BE, so the port is open |
| [22:21:54] | bill6502: | and the ubuntu firewall is inactive |
| [22:21:57] | Qwazz: | So, where do I go, is there a file that needs to be edited or is a there a firewall set of commands |
| [22:22:02] | wagnerrp: | he said it timed out |
| [22:22:14] | wagnerrp: | "server not found" |
| [22:22:21] | bill6502: | on a remote browser, not the one on the backend |
| [22:22:30] | Qwazz: | On the Andriod browser but not another host on the same network. |
| [22:22:58] | Qwazz: | or the hostbackend, it worked just fine. |
| [22:23:08] | wagnerrp: | open your browser, and go to "checkip.dyndns.org" |
| [22:23:15] | wagnerrp: | then do the same thing on your PC |
| [22:23:29] | wagnerrp: | make sure they match, and your browser isn't being proxied through something |
| [22:23:45] | Qwazz: | browser on host backend and on remote desktop (PC)? |
| [22:23:54] | wagnerrp: | no, browser on your android device |
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| [22:24:28] | wagnerrp: | ive seen mobile browsers route all traffic through a cache/conversion server |
| [22:24:39] | wagnerrp: | rather than those devices accessing their destination directly |
| [22:25:06] | wagnerrp: | if i try to access mythweb from a kindle, the address that shows up in my logs is one from Amazon |
| [22:26:56] | Qwazz: | okay, they match on Andriod device, remote desktop browser and on backend browser, though on the backend browser there was a misfire. |
| [22:27:56] | bill6502: | Qwazz: can we assume that the laptop and android are both using the same WiFi router? |
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| [22:28:11] | Qwazz: | yes, they are. |
| [22:29:26] | bill6502: | and the IP addresses are both in the 192.168.0 range? |
| [22:30:13] | Qwazz: | Actually, returned on the browser are is an IP address 196.215.124.61 |
| [22:30:35] | wagnerrp: | that's your external address. he means internal |
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| [22:30:58] | Qwazz: | But for setup I am sure they've all been assigned IP's in 192.168.0.x range. |
| [22:32:48] | Qwazz: | My external IP, that's interesting, does it change or depends on my ISP? But yes, their in the 192.168.0.x range as per the router. |
| [22:33:36] | wagnerrp: | it is dynamically assigned by your ISP |
| [22:33:39] | wagnerrp: | it will periodically change |
| [22:34:18] | Qwazz: | Oh, okay, thanks. So what do I need to do to get my machine behaving right? |
| [22:34:37] | bill6502: | your backend looks fine to me |
| [22:34:56] | bill6502: | it's the android that's not playing nice |
| [22:34:59] | wagnerrp: | if you can access the backend locally, using the network-accessible address, cannot access it remotely on the same network, and your firewall is not active |
| [22:35:02] | wagnerrp: | i have no clue |
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| [22:35:59] | bill6502: | Qwazz: what kind of Android device do you have, and what version? |
| [22:36:41] | Qwazz: | Okay, I planned to install a frontends, how do I do front end only installation ubuntu desktop, this should confirm the adriod bit as an issue an can wait for it to mature (keep checking in). |
| [22:37:31] | wagnerrp: | why do a frontend-only install? |
| [22:37:36] | wagnerrp: | the backend is just a binary |
| [22:37:45] | wagnerrp: | if you don't want to run the backend, simply don't |
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| [22:39:16] | Qwazz: | How would I stop it from running. I am imagining a scenario where I install Mythtv frontend, it asks do I want to connect to the masterbackend server which is already on the work, I say yes and then everything works a charm, I can do specific setting for different frontends would be great. |
| [22:40:20] | ctmjr: | imagination is such a wonderful thing |
| [22:40:35] | Qwazz: | It is :-). So what's the reality? |
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| [22:41:36] | wagnerrp: | you don't stop it. you never run it in the first place |
| [22:41:37] | Qwazz: | Ubuntu software centre and install BE/FE set BE role to salve, point settings IP and Port to master? |
| [22:41:38] | ctmjr: | install mythtv run the frontend have it connect to the master backend but it will not do by itself |
| [22:42:27] | Qwazz: | Software centre okay? |
| [22:43:23] | Qwazz: | Installing... |
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| [22:47:48] | Qwazz: | How do I handle the configuration, e.g. Newpassword for the MySQl "root" user: |
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| [22:48:18] | wagnerrp: | you don't need a mysql server anywhere but the master backend |
| [22:48:38] | Qwazz: | leave blank, and click forward? |
| [22:48:41] | wagnerrp: | technically, you don't actually need it on the master backend |
| [22:48:46] | wagnerrp: | it can be where ever you want |
| [22:48:50] | wagnerrp: | but you can only have one database |
| [22:49:24] | Qwazz: | This has popped and the installation is waiting on it. |
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| [22:49:52] | wagnerrp: | abort, and install without mysql server? |
| [22:50:25] | Qwazz: | Do I leave it blank, click forward, there's no other obtion but forward, no cancal button. |
| [22:51:53] | Qwazz: | The window, doesn't seem able to be closed. |
| [22:52:31] | Qwazz: | So how do I abort and how do I install without mysql? |
| [22:53:04] | wagnerrp: | i don't know, i don't use ubuntu |
| [22:53:16] | Qwazz: | I think this is why I wanted, to know how to install a frontend only installation. |
| [22:53:36] | ctmjr: | is this mythbuntu? |
| [22:53:40] | wagnerrp: | but a slave backend wouldn't use a mysql server either |
| [22:53:55] | Qwazz: | ctmjr: Yes, it is. |
| [22:54:55] | Qwazz: | I have left blank and moved forward and now the question "will other computers run Mythtv"? |
| [22:55:21] | bill6502: | say yes |
| [22:55:38] | Qwazz: | The answer is very much "yes", which should be apparent from the exising installation on the network. |
| [22:56:22] | bill6502: | sorry, thought you were asking |
| [22:56:24] | Qwazz: | Should the installation not pickup existing installations? |
| [22:57:49] | Qwazz: | I was, and thank you for responding, I was in doubt because I really just wanted light weight frontend only clients... so now I have another backend too, which is not necessarily a bed a thing but kinda complicates things for me. |
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| [23:00:00] | Qwazz: | Install complete, running frontend only and pointing to backend. |
| [23:03:28] | Qwazz: | Have put in the details of the backend and MYSQL password, how do I check if it connected? On watch live tv, it says no tuners configures, yet there are. |
| [23:05:28] | bill6502: | on your new frontend, type this: status mythtv-backend (really) |
| [23:06:07] | Qwazz: | I can't, the newfrontend keeps respawning. |
| [23:07:14] | wagnerrp: | so switch to another terminal |
| [23:07:16] | Qwazz: | scratch that, I can. But the frontend is doign the respawning can't conenct to backend thing. Is this to do with the xml.config file again? |
| [23:08:07] | ctmjr: | what ip did you give for the back end it should be the one for the master backend |
| [23:08:13] | Qwazz: | Mythtv backend start running process 9129 |
| [23:08:38] | Qwazz: | I used the the hostname, going to insert IP. |
| [23:09:34] | bill6502: | Didn't it actually say: mythtv-backend start/running, process 9129? |
| [23:09:54] | ctmjr: | he now has 2 backends |
| [23:09:55] | Qwazz: | Okay, used IP, now I am at errorMythTV database has newer TV schema (1317) than |
| [23:10:31] | Qwazz: | expected (1299). Is this a repos thing 0.27 |
| [23:10:39] | bill6502: | right, that's what I was looking for he had some question about the installation of a FE only |
| [23:11:04] | bill6502: | Qwazz: sudo stop mythtv-backend |
| [23:11:09] | Qwazz: | Click okay, now seems to be respawning with this as the new error. |
| [23:11:18] | ctmjr: | you need to upgrade the frontend to the same version as the master backend |
| [23:12:07] | Qwazz: | command run. |
| [23:12:08] | bill6502: | 1st he needs to stop the backend and, isn't 1299 0.26? |
| [23:12:23] | Qwazz: | Sudo killall mythfrontend.real? |
| [23:12:34] | bill6502: | no |
| [23:12:43] | ctmjr: | he is using mythbuntu it will keep respawning the backend and frontend one of the reason i do not use it |
| [23:12:58] | bill6502: | sudo stop mythtv-backend |
| [23:13:13] | bill6502: | that's the proper way to stop the backend |
| [23:13:19] | Qwazz: | I have, keeps respawning. |
| [23:13:40] | ** wagnerrp hates sudo ** | |
| [23:13:56] | Qwazz: | mythbackend is not listed in top |
| [23:14:28] | Qwazz: | mythfrontend.real and is and can't kill it. |
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| [23:15:08] | Qwazz: | keeps respawning, the complaint is about different schemas? how do I address that? |
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| [23:15:40] | wagnerrp: | run the same version |
| [23:15:51] | Qwazz: | How? |
| [23:16:07] | bill6502: | I suspect that you just installed 0.26, yet your backend is running 0.27 |
| [23:16:11] | wagnerrp: | install a different version? |
| [23:17:45] | bill6502: | unfortunately, I don't run Mythbuntu, and don't know how to stop it (or, prevent it from respawning) |
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| [23:18:08] | Qwazz: | Yes, that's what happened and that is why I was asking how to install frontend only and whether to use Ubuntu Software Centre, knowing it would install the backend too – you which you advised I would just not run it, then setup installation insisted on setting it up... |
| [23:18:32] | bill6502: | Qwazz: what's the output of ls -ld /etc/init/*myth* |
| [23:18:33] | Qwazz: | So know do I: sudo apt-get purge mythtv*? |
| [23:19:18] | Qwazz: | It Gives: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 610 Aug 1 2012 /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf |
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| [23:21:36] | bill6502: | OK, that means something else does the respawning. The purge sounds OK to me, but remember I don't use Mythbuntu. If you know the command, it sounds like you've used it before. |
| [23:22:23] | Qwazz: | The output of: ls -ld /etc/init/*myth* is: ls -ld /etc/init/*myth* |
| [23:23:23] | bill6502: | you already said its: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 610 Aug 1 2012 /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf which is normal (for an installation that has a backend running) |
| [23:24:15] | Qwazz: | I think I've purged it. Now, how to install a frontend "only" and from the compatable repos 0.27? |
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| [23:25:41] | bill6502: | didn't you need to some command on you existing backend to tell the system which repo to use? You must do that 1st before trying to install the frontend again. |
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| [23:27:12] | bill6502: | http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/mythtv_0.27 perhaps? |
| [23:27:15] | Qwazz: | I installed mythbuntu-control centre and slected repos within that app, once again I think installing the mythbuntu-control centre will bring a BE/FE installation, actually, let me try it. |
| [23:27:59] | bill6502: | enable the 0.27 repos 1st |
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| [23:29:48] | Qwazz: | Done. |
| [23:31:24] | Qwazz: | Having some errors all of a sudden, packages.medibuntu.org/dist – could remove the installatio have now removed other thins and is that going to affect the installation? or will the installation come with updated packages/dependencies? |
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| [23:31:52] | Qwazz: | running sudo apt-get install mythtv |
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| [23:32:56] | ctmjr: | why not just reinstall the frontend from the mythbuntu cd |
| [23:34:15] | Qwazz: | This is a desktop frontend, and so will be other frontends connected to Tv's in different rooms, but can be normal desktops, workstations when needed. |
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| [23:35:08] | Qwazz: | I am trying to install on my everyday latop right now. running command apt-get install mythtv. |
| [23:37:50] | Qwazz: | I notice that mysql-serve-5.5 is also being installed. So this installation or method does not come without the mysql (backend) either. |
| [23:38:25] | Qwazz: | But maybe since it'll be of the same schema, the "never running it" approach could work? |
| [23:52:25] | Qwazz: | By the way, could I not have just left the old install, add the new repos, run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade? |
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| [23:55:32] | bill6502: | You know more that I about Mythbuntu, so I'm of no help there. |
| [23:57:16] | Qwazz: | Okay, cool – thanks :-). Still installing... |
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| [23:59:45] | Qwazz: | By the way, if I have no video files in /var/lib/mythtv/videos/ on the master backend, and browing the network doesn't reveal the folders Mythtv is pulling it's video library from, do I need to do something special? |
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