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Thursday, October 17th, 2013, 00:01 UTC
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[00:14:22] skd5aner: wagnerrp: ok, found a bug... going to try to submit a patch – thanks
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[00:33:31] skd5aner: yay, fix it... will submit a ticket
[00:33:40] wagnerrp: what's the issue?
[00:34:38] skd5aner: s/fix/fixed
[00:39:01] Hydr0p0nX: how is 0.27 working ?
[00:39:03] skd5aner: The new channel icons storage group wasn't excluded... so it was showing the list of available drive space. I've got a simple 1 line patch to fix it, will upload shortly
[00:39:08] Hydr0p0nX: i've been hesitant to upgrade
[00:39:21] skd5aner: wagnerrp: might be simple, but at least I can say I actually "fixed" something :)
[00:39:34] skd5aner: thanks for the pointers for the right spot to look
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[00:49:12] skd5aner: Hydr0p0nX: for the most part, pretty darn good
[00:50:09] skd5aner: Hydr0p0nX: no real "new" problems for me... all of the ones I discovered were basically resolved in beta. A few unique quirks I'm still working out, but basically it is an improvement overall for me
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[00:55:34] skd5aner: superm1: you around?
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[01:07:42] skd5aner: superm1: I'm trying to run the updated upstart scripts I mirrored from mythbuntu, but now I'm getting an issue trying to do a "service mythtv-backend start|stop" – its like the upstart script just hangs
[01:07:57] skd5aner: I have to ctrl-c to get back to a prompt
[01:08:47] skd5aner: if I run the command again after doing that, I get "start: Job is already running: mythtv-backend
[01:08:47] skd5aner: " – but mythbackend is not running
[01:12:09] skd5aner: I think it's the "expect fork" piece – http://askubuntu.com/questions/185299/start-c . . . pt-in-ubuntu
[01:13:16] tgm4883: skd5aner, the expect fork is needed, providing mythbackend is actually forking. Can you pastebin your init script?
[01:14:26] skd5aner: tgm4883: it's slightly different (on purpose) – but is almost identical – http://pastebin.com/ff8CFw5F
[01:14:54] skd5aner: tgm4883: comparing it to this one: https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/blob/7e39 . . . kend.upstart
[01:15:22] tgm4883: skd5aner, I'm assuming by slightly different, you mean because you are compiling?
[01:15:45] skd5aner: correct, the binaries are in a different location for example and I don't want it to go to syslog
[01:16:40] tgm4883: skd5aner, ok, so the reason it needs expect fork, is because we're running mythbackend with --daemon. I'm not sure why that is causing issues for you, but this is what I suggest you do
[01:16:50] tgm4883: 1) comment out "expect fork"
[01:17:27] tgm4883: 2) Start mythbackend via the upstart script, take note of the PID that it says it's using (via 'service mythtv-backend status')
[01:17:28] skd5aner: I added the expect fork and --daemon just recenlty... at boot, it seems to start just fine...
[01:17:41] tgm4883: 3) use ps to verify that the PID is the same
[01:17:43] wagnerrp: bah... forgot the commit hoook
[01:17:43] skd5aner: but, I can't manually do a sudo service mythtv-backend stop (or start)
[01:18:20] tgm4883: if the PID is the same, then you for some reason don't need that, but since you are compiling I don't feel the need to investigate this further (unless it can be reproduced with our packages)
[01:18:45] skd5aner: tgm4883: heh – fair enough... although, I do appreciate your expertise :)
[01:19:00] tgm4883: if the PID is different, how different is it? Since "expect fork" didn't work, then it probably needs "expect daemon"
[01:19:27] tgm4883: we don't use "expect daemon" since that assumes that the process will fork twice, which it does not do with our packages
[01:19:28] skd5aner: tgm4883: let me give it a go tomorrow, I just started mbe from the CLI for now... and I'm on baby duty right now, so I'll have to play later
[01:19:37] tgm4883: ok sounds good
[01:20:32] skd5aner: tgm4883: I'll keep you posted though... I wouldn't expect too much differences... I compile a pretty vanilla install from the -fixes branch. I woudlnt assume that you guys don't muck around too much with it either... I'd expect similiar environments
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[01:40:10] Hydr0p0nX: k, so now, all of a sudden, myth for windows is workin' right on 2 machines
[01:40:12] Hydr0p0nX: :)
[01:40:21] Hydr0p0nX: well ...
[01:40:23] Hydr0p0nX: more right
[01:40:42] Hydr0p0nX: is some lag in scrolling through the guide
[01:40:51] Hydr0p0nX: is there anything i can do about it ?
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[01:44:03] Hydr0p0nX: seems like it wants to tune each channel as I scroll through them
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[04:04:29] jya: airplay working again :)
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[06:36:49] cbovy: jya: thanks for the commit. I'll test as soon as mythbuntu has picked/packaged it.
[06:37:06] jya: won't be before tomorrow now
[06:37:12] jya: they build a midnight
[06:38:27] cbovy: anyway, good that you found this. I was worried that youtube was blocking things...
[06:41:01] jya: me too
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[10:18:43] oobe: after upgrading to 0.27 I have no visible guide data but my scheduled recordings still appear to be present however offset to 14 hrs incorrect time when I run mythfilldata base I get the reported error I show in pastebin here http://pastebin.com/9JxXD5hW I also listed the files I edited to remedy the situation to no avail
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[11:48:12] stuartm: oobe, which xmltv grabber are you using?
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[12:00:56] wizbit2: i am running mythtv on a joggler what has 512MB of ram, it will only be used to view tv
[12:01:10] wizbit2: should i bother setting up a swap partition on it?
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[12:32:25] oobe: stuartm, im using shepherd for australian free to air tv.
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[12:39:04] wizbit2: the only thing mythtv is missing is smooth gliding menu controls
[12:39:18] wizbit2: that would make a big difference
[12:39:25] wizbit2: i wonder if qt supports that
[12:40:04] wizbit2: also, another idea, is a prompt what shows you when and what the next program is
[12:40:27] wizbit2: ie, 5 minutes before next show, mythtv shows a prompt saying whats on next
[12:41:13] wizbit2: i think once those 2 bits are done, we can call the next release mythtv 1.0
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[12:51:52] stuartm: oobe: sadly I might have guessed that, it's always shepherd, wish someone would write a proper grabber for Australia
[12:54:22] stuartm: oobe: if the guide data is out by 14 hours that's probably going to be a problem with the format of the guide data, it should specify a timezone for the datetime strings
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[13:49:48] oobe: stuartm, ok there will probably be a ticket in the sheperd website and it will fix its self soon if it is a problem with shepherd.
[13:50:30] oobe: there is a official paid tv grabber for australia called ice or something but free is better I tried the ice trial and it actually got lower quality data than the free one.
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[14:51:40] stuartm: nothing wrong with the source of data for shepherd, it's just not an xmltv compliant grabber and that's a huge source of frustration – there's nothing the shepherd grabber does now that could be done properly
[14:51:49] stuartm: couldn't
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[15:09:50] TandyUK: anyone know whether the BlackGold series of tuners works with ubuntu and mythtv? considering buying a pair or BGT3600 Dual DVB-T2/DVB-C, Dual DVB-S2 if they are compatible
[15:10:05] stuartm: there are 22 official xmltv grabbers (and a fair number of third party ones), providing data for almost as many countries, every one of them just works with MythTV including automatic scheduling (no cron jobs) – then you have Shepherd which through some mis-guided concept of 'making things easier', ignores all that and does stuff in a completely unofficial and broken way
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[15:17:12] TandyUK: anyone know of a link to an up to date list of UK xmltv ids?
[15:17:37] TandyUK: one of my boxes is now getting "Unknown xmltv channel identifier: bbc2.bbc.co.uk – Skipping channel." using the tv_grab_uk_rt grabber
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[15:25:14] stuartm: TandyUK: http://supplement.xmltv.org/tv_grab_uk_rt/channel_ids
[15:26:14] TandyUK: yeah thats hwere i got bbc2.bbc.co.uyk from
[15:26:26] TandyUK: so why is mythfilldatabase telling me its an invalid xmltv id
[15:26:27] stuartm: that is the up to date list
[15:26:37] stuartm: it's read in by the grabber each time it runs
[15:26:50] stuartm: so I've no idea why it's giving that error
[15:26:59] TandyUK: ok, time to turn up verbosity
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[15:28:43] stuartm: TandyUK: Oh, that error comes from mythfilldatabase, it means you've configured xmltv to grab data for that channel, but it's not associated with a channel in MythTV
[15:28:58] TandyUK: hmmm
[15:30:01] stuartm: Edit Channels > Select the entry(ies) for BBC 2 and enter bbc2.bbc.co.uk in the xmltv field
[15:34:14] TandyUK: yeah got it ty
[15:34:28] TandyUK: obviously that didnt save properly last time i did this... :(
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