| Thursday, September 26th, 2013, 00:00 UTC | ||
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| [00:00:25] | Blue1: | for cable I am using cable irc (and that worked before) for ota I am using terristerial (sp) |
| [00:00:55] | wagnerrp: | try just standard cable, qam256 for cable, 8vsb for terrestrial |
| [00:01:03] | Blue1: | yes I have tried both |
| [00:01:37] | Blue1: | the cable irc (qam 256) finds some channels, but not all — any of the atsc channels causes issues for mythtv |
| [00:01:47] | Blue1: | when I try to tune them in |
| [00:02:26] | Blue1: | iow – channels with an underscore like 4_1 wont work (with cable) but channels with a – like 93–29 are tunable |
| [00:03:19] | wagnerrp: | how recently have you tried those channels on windows? |
| [00:03:40] | wagnerrp: | comcast has started encrypting the local channels on cable |
| [00:03:59] | wagnerrp: | and anything with a proper VCID is going to be a local broadcast channel |
| [00:04:54] | Blue1: | ahh how did you know I was on comcast? |
| [00:05:07] | wagnerrp: | "Blue1 (~nwayno@c-98-225-103-14.hsd1.az.comcast.net ) has joined #mythtv-users" |
| [00:05:21] | Blue1: | ah su desu-ka |
| [00:06:18] | Blue1: | but why can my hdtv get the clear channels, and mythtv can;t? |
| [00:06:46] | wagnerrp: | well that's what i was going for, some other recent test that confirmed those channels were still available |
| [00:07:00] | Blue1: | yes they are. |
| [00:08:45] | Blue1: | is there something in mythtv (maybe a config file) that does NOT get reset, when you reset the database (drop database in mysql) |
| [00:09:27] | wagnerrp: | nope. that's all there is |
| [00:11:38] | Blue1: | its all I knew how to do.... |
| [00:15:39] | Blue1: | thanks — I will try to rethink this -but I am running out of ideas pdq... |
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| [00:27:22] | twiggy2cents_: | i have been having some 0b recordings that get fixed when I restart mythtv. I keep getting this when the recording starts. |
| [00:28:17] | twiggy2cents_: | [1762/5216] SignalMonitor dvbchannel.cpp:992 (HasLock) – DVBChan(3:/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0):Getting Frontend status failed. |
| [00:28:32] | twiggy2cents_: | eno: No such device (19) |
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| [00:29:50] | twiggy2cents_: | Any tips? |
| [00:30:28] | twiggy2cents_: | Should I check dmesg? I havent updated anything or changed anything to make this problem start |
| [00:31:03] | wagnerrp: | any chance you have something else periodically accessing the device? |
| [00:31:08] | wagnerrp: | what specific device is this? |
| [00:31:19] | wagnerrp: | is it USB? |
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| [00:31:49] | twiggy2cents_: | yes it is USB :-/ |
| [00:31:54] | wagnerrp: | is it possible mythbackend is starting before the USB drivers have finished loading? |
| [00:32:11] | wagnerrp: | on the first run at boot, the device nodes are not yet available |
| [00:32:21] | wagnerrp: | if you subsequently restart it, the devices nodes are ready for use |
| [00:32:27] | jm|laptop: | I've just updated to 0.27. Power searches that have an apostrophe in the search phrase seem to be upsetting the scheduler ... |
| [00:32:48] | twiggy2cents_: | hmm If one of my usb tuners works(diff brand) but the other two that have the issue dont, could that still be the case |
| [00:32:49] | jm|laptop: | e.g. program.title like "%10 O'Clock Live%" |
| [00:33:13] | twiggy2cents_: | Sorry I meant reboot the pc not just mythtv |
| [00:33:28] | wagnerrp: | if you reboot the PC, the tuner works fine on the next boot? |
| [00:34:02] | twiggy2cents_: | Yes. It seems like it is random |
| [00:34:23] | wagnerrp: | i'm still willing to bet something flaky with the device or driver |
| [00:34:29] | twiggy2cents_: | If I were to replace the crap usb tuners with something else what should i get. I need at least 3 tuners |
| [00:34:41] | ** wagnerrp doesn't like USB ** | |
| [00:35:15] | twiggy2cents_: | It is a ati 600 HD USB. I have two of those and they both did it. That makes me think something driver related |
| [00:35:24] | twiggy2cents_: | I meant non USB replacement |
| [00:35:28] | twiggy2cents_: | OTA |
| [00:35:41] | wagnerrp: | i just bought a second HDHR to fill in some conflicts, was like $70 |
| [00:36:08] | twiggy2cents_: | How many tuners is that? |
| [00:36:14] | wagnerrp: | two |
| [00:36:43] | wagnerrp: | no, $80 |
| [00:37:15] | twiggy2cents_: | The Hauppauge one I have doesnt seem to have as many issues |
| [00:37:24] | twiggy2cents_: | (USB also) |
| [00:38:00] | jm|laptop: | twiggy2cents_: note that some PCI[-e] cards are actually USB hubs with USB tuners combined |
| [00:38:19] | jm|laptop: | so rely on the same subsystem as the dongles |
| [00:38:34] | wagnerrp: | that's seen a lot more often in DVB cards than ATSC/QAM ones |
| [00:38:45] | twiggy2cents_: | I dont have a pci-e slot available anyway |
| [00:38:54] | twiggy2cents_: | I was thinking network tuners |
| [00:39:01] | jm|laptop: | oic |
| [00:39:25] | twiggy2cents_: | My dmesg is flooded with these |
| [00:39:29] | twiggy2cents_: | i2c_read_demod_bytes: addr 0x0e select 0x6e error (ret == -19) |
| [00:39:42] | twiggy2cents_: | lgdt330x: i2c_write_demod_bytes error (addr 02 <- 00, err = -19)\ |
| [00:39:47] | jm|laptop: | AND ( program.title LIKE "%Britain's Best Drives%" |
| [00:39:51] | jm|laptop: | it really doesn't like apostrophes :/ |
| [00:40:16] | jm|laptop: | if I escape them in mythweb schedule it doesn't seem to help, either |
| [00:42:04] | twiggy2cents_: | It fails on the 2nd recording |
| [00:43:03] | twiggy2cents_: | Ugh now the hauppauge doesnt work |
| [00:54:29] | twiggy2cents_: | Is network my best bet for replacing these tuners without having a pci-e slot? |
| [00:55:51] | twiggy2cents_: | I have two different antennas so I need something like the hdhr for the one antenna and a single tuner for the other. Unless I the hauppauge tuner starts working consistently when I remove the ATI ones. |
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| [00:58:12] | twiggy2cents_: | Does the hdhr transcode the stream or does it just dump it like my current tuners? |
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| [02:03:30] | JennieL: | Hi. I'm splitting my Myth front & backends. The backend is up & running. The database on the server is reachable from my desktop; I can login to mysql, change, etc. Now I'm trying to connect MythFrontend on my desktop to that backend. |
| [02:03:32] | JennieL: | I've entered the data, checked the config.xml, but still I get : "Could not connect to the master backend server. Is it running? Is the IP address set for it in mythtv-setup correct?" |
| [02:03:47] | JennieL: | I think I've missed something basic. ANy hints? |
| [02:08:48] | wagnerrp: | twiggy2cents_: it just dumps |
| [02:09:24] | wagnerrp: | is the IP address for the backend set correctly? |
| [02:09:40] | wagnerrp: | i.e... is it configured to an address that is actually reachable from the network? |
| [02:12:25] | JennieL: | wagnerrp: It's set to a hostname, which resolves to a LAN IP which is reachable from any machine in my lan. It's the same host/address that mysql is listening on. |
| [02:16:23] | JennieL: | wagnerrp: I'm able to connect with XBMC's cmyth frontend to the backend; just not with MythTV FrontEnd. |
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| [02:28:52] | wagnerrp: | it cannot be set to a hostname |
| [02:28:57] | wagnerrp: | it must be set to an IP address |
| [02:29:36] | wagnerrp: | that's why the box in mythtv-setup to configure it says "IP address" |
| [02:33:58] | JennieL: | wagnerrp: In the frontend it's hostname, but ok. Strange that XBMC can connect to it with no issues if the backend has the hostname in there; but the MytTV needs the IP address. |
| [02:34:39] | wagnerrp: | strange indeed. the past several versions of mythtv should refuse to operate if the user supplies a hostname in that field |
| [02:35:31] | JennieL: | Anyway, solved. Thanks! |
| [02:36:04] | JennieL: | While I'm here ... WHere in the MythTV config do I set the length of my EPG? I'd like to extend it out to six weeks, i f I can. |
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| [02:36:55] | wagnerrp: | you can't extend it. mythtv grabs as much as your EPG provider is willing to provide |
| [02:37:17] | JennieL: | wagnerrp: Ah, well that explains why I've been having a devil of a time finding it! |
| [02:37:59] | SpeedEvil: | Not all programming is even set that far out |
| [02:38:28] | wagnerrp: | at least in the US, we license data from Tribune, and they only provide two weeks |
| [02:38:37] | JennieL: | SpeedEvil: Got it. Guess I'll have to enable real remote access for when I travel ... |
| [02:38:52] | JennieL: | I get mine from SchedulesDirect |
| [02:38:54] | SpeedEvil: | Or a minion. |
| [02:38:59] | wagnerrp: | the alternative is pulling data from the broadcast stream, and most stations don't provide more than the required 12 hours |
| [02:39:16] | wagnerrp: | schedules direct licenses from tribune media services |
| [02:39:21] | JennieL: | SpeedEvil: This time it's a vacation. So the minion is coming with me :-) |
| [02:39:49] | SpeedEvil: | :) |
| [02:40:05] | wagnerrp: | at the moment, we pull directly from tribune's servers, but apparently they want SD to start caching that on their end |
| [02:40:25] | JennieL: | wagnerrp: Oh, are *you* SD? |
| [02:40:40] | wagnerrp: | no, just paying attention to the goings on |
| [02:41:07] | wagnerrp: | by "we", i mean users. users pull from datadirect, which are tribune's servers |
| [02:41:21] | JennieL: | Should I, as a mere human, be pulling instead from "Tribune" for any reason? Happy with SD so far .... |
| [02:41:42] | wagnerrp: | i'm saying you already are |
| [02:42:22] | JennieL: | Let me put it this way. I'm cheap. Is SD required? |
| [02:42:35] | wagnerrp: | to get decent guide data, yes |
| [02:42:44] | JennieL: | ah, then ok. ;-) |
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| [02:45:21] | JennieL: | Hm. I've a bunch of scheduled recordings in my XBMC cmyth frontend. SInce that's 'controlling' the mythbackend, shouldn't the recordnigs be visible in the MythTV frontend? Im there now, in "Schedules Overview", and it's telling my I've no scheduled programs. |
| [02:46:00] | wagnerrp: | if your frontend is properly connecting to your backend, they should be. yes |
| [02:46:40] | JennieL: | Hm ... |
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| [02:50:26] | JennieL: | Ok, have some sleuthing to do. Thx for the help. Night. |
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| [12:40:52] | wizbit: | i have a new tv and the native resolution is 1366 x 768 |
| [12:41:12] | wizbit: | however, when i connect the tv via DVI > HDMI the EDID does not show that resolution |
| [12:42:38] | wizbit: | i tried putting in a modeline in xorg, but xorg ignores it with this error: |
| [12:42:44] | wizbit: | NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "DFP-0:1360x768,DFP-1:1360x768"; removing |
| [12:52:16] | stuarta: | 1360 != 1366 |
| [12:53:09] | stuarta: | pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| [13:02:33] | wizbit: | stuarta: the net says my tv does 1366x768 but i managed to get a modeline of 1360x768 working excellent on it using another box using the free ati driver |
| [13:02:50] | wizbit: | i will paste soon, just dual booted into os x |
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| [13:13:03] | ZopharPtay: | is there a way in 0.26 to tell the "new" metadata grabber which IMDB or TVDB to use for a given file that it consistently gets wrong like you used to be able to do in jamuconfig? |
| [13:16:58] | ZopharPtay: | sorry, that should be 0.26-fixes, if it matters |
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| [15:15:08] | jm|laptop: | ITV1 HD is still not being marked as HD :/ |
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| [15:26:41] | jm|laptop: | isn't there a feature to automatically invoke something when the EIT scan finishes? |
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| [16:47:34] | dekarl-work: | jm|laptop: what do you mean with "EIT scan finishes"? Maybe all it takes is adding a fixup to mark ITVHD as HD like its done for other stations https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/blob/master/ . . . er.cpp#L1077 |
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| [18:58:06] | jm|laptop: | Database error was: Duplicate entry '1705-2013-10–02 18:45:00–0' for key 'PRIMARY' |
| [18:58:14] | jm|laptop: | hmm |
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| [19:12:17] | lucas^: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Ceton_InfiniTV_4 |
| [19:12:28] | lucas^: | anyone have this card? I'm considering purchasing it |
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| [19:22:40] | mengo2nd: | hmm I don't but I think it has closed source drivers, so you will need to compile and install them each time you have a kernel update |
| [19:23:03] | mengo2nd: | not a major thing but something to bare in mind |
| [19:28:47] | lucas^: | not a big deal, I don't reboot into Fedora much anymore these days |
| [19:29:24] | lucas^: | so long as it works and doesn't 1) drop support or 2) malfunction within a few months |
| [19:29:38] | lucas^: | not too many other PCI-e integrated CableCARD tuners |
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| [19:36:36] | mengo2nd: | hmm I have a pcie card but its for dvb-t |
| [19:36:52] | lucas^: | mine's atsc/clearqam only |
| [19:36:59] | lucas^: | worked great in the Midwest but now I'm in Seattle |
| [19:37:40] | lucas^: | hdhomerun is what everyone here recommends, but I don't like the idea of yet another set-top box |
| [19:37:48] | mengo2nd: | everything seems to be external / usb these days, hich I'm not so keenon |
| [19:37:57] | lucas^: | yeah\ |
| [19:37:59] | mengo2nd: | yeah! that too |
| [19:38:40] | mengo2nd: | http://www.buydvb.net << they market the card I have but I'm not finding anything good for you |
| [19:39:37] | mengo2nd: | http://hauppauge.com/site/products/prods_hvr_internal.html << ever tried one of these? |
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| [19:40:51] | lucas^: | I'm using the HVR-1600 right now, Hauppauge is a great company |
| [19:41:19] | mengoshmink: | I have to admit my Hauppage cards have been pretty good |
| [20:01:54] | wizbit: | i downloaded the manual for my toshiba 22" tv and it says that the max resolution is 1600x1200 ? |
| [20:02:05] | wizbit: | would that be the native resolution? that seems too high |
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| [20:25:18] | SpeedEvil: | it could be able to downscale |
| [20:25:39] | SpeedEvil: | does it say 1080p/... |
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| [20:42:15] | justinh: | probably does downscale |
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| [21:07:37] | wizbit: | im totally confused |
| [21:07:46] | wizbit: | i managed to get a working modeline |
| [21:08:04] | wizbit: | on a box what is running free ati driver and vga output, the picture is nice and sharp |
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| [21:08:16] | wizbit: | on another box with dvi > hdmi output, the picture is blurry |
| [21:08:24] | wizbit: | i thought it should be the other way round |
| [21:11:42] | justinh: | the TV's scaler is poo, is what |
| [21:12:15] | wizbit: | justinh: 1360x768 is close to the native resolution of 1366x768 |
| [21:13:11] | justinh: | close but isn't |
| [21:13:26] | justinh: | you need 1366x768 |
| [21:14:10] | ** justinh starts to get ready to get rid of ubuntu at the weekend ** | |
| [21:15:00] | wizbit: | are there any tools what can pull edid info from a tv? |
| [21:15:37] | justinh: | btw anybody want to buy a house in Manchester? There's a drug dealer lives 2 doors up who has his mates around at all hours of the day boozing & smoking skunk in the front garden :-/ |
| [21:15:57] | justinh: | EDID info sometimes (maybe usually) lies |
| [21:26:13] | wizbit: | modeline are a bastard |
| [21:26:30] | justinh: | so are estate agents. Hey ho |
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| [21:31:01] | lucas^: | I'm about to sign a lease on a new apartment. first time out-of-state |
| [21:31:34] | lucas^: | hope I won't regret it two months from now |
| [21:38:15] | justinh: | I wish we'd only rented our house. moving would be *so* much easier |
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| [22:10:39] | Oleg_: | I am just curious, if I don't compile mythtv with libass subtitles support, I won't be able to enable subtitles in mkvs? I am asking it because I have an mkv file that has subtitles; however, they don't appear on the screen when I turn them on in mythavtest |
| [22:11:07] | wizbit: | WOWWWWWW |
| [22:11:13] | wizbit: | finally got native res working!!!!!!! |
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| [22:20:01] | wagnerrp: | ZopharPtay: if you're talking about recordings, you can define the inetref in the recording rule |
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| [23:23:26] | Blue1: | is it possible to configure vlc or kaffiene to watch an hdhomerun tuner? |
| [23:26:24] | wagnerrp: | VLC, yes... kaffiene, don't know |
| [23:27:28] | Blue1: | okay let me schlepp to see what I can find — thanks. |
| [23:28:28] | Blue1: | seems complicated: http://www.silicondust.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?t=1924 |
| [23:28:34] | wagnerrp: | the hdhomerun library downloadable from their site has the ability to launch VLC with the proper parameters to receive from an HDHR |
| [23:29:50] | Blue1: | okay I will re-visit the site |
| [23:30:11] | wagnerrp: | at least on windows it does |
| [23:30:22] | wagnerrp: | i've never used the GUI on linux, only the terminal application |
| [23:30:30] | ctmjr: | does on linux to |
| [23:30:52] | Blue1: | i have done this already: http://www.silicondust.com/support/hdhomerun/downloads/linux/ |
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