| Tuesday, September 24th, 2013, 00:14 UTC | ||
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| [00:17:15] | croccydile: | I have no idea if its possible to just... move... your recording storage |
| [00:19:11] | MrShake: | it is |
| [00:19:14] | MrShake: | been there done that |
| [00:21:09] | wagnerrp: | mythtv only tracks the locations of your recordings relative to the root of your storage group paths |
| [00:21:28] | wagnerrp: | so as long as the recording is found in one of those paths, mythtv will be able to find and access it |
| [00:22:10] | MrShake: | ding ding ding |
| [00:22:40] | croccydile: | Ah ok, so if I shut off the backend, move all the files and just... set the path to the new folder it should just work? |
| [00:23:05] | MrShake: | yep |
| [00:23:17] | MrShake: | I had to upgrade to a bigger HardDrive, and did exactly that |
| [00:23:23] | wagnerrp: | you could even set the path to both folders, and record to both of them simultaneously |
| [00:23:39] | croccydile: | *Nods* |
| [00:23:47] | croccydile: | This 3TB once its clear ill move the recordings to that |
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| [01:00:20] | biffhero: | well, this sucks. I am getting nothing but static from /dev/video0 |
| [01:00:31] | croccydile: | Oh noes :x |
| [01:00:54] | biffhero: | yep, I'm shutting down the backend now and doing "cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/foo.mpg" now |
| [01:01:09] | croccydile: | what t00ner |
| [01:01:23] | biffhero: | hauppage, I think a 250 |
| [01:01:28] | biffhero: | ivtv driver. |
| [01:01:47] | croccydile: | Ooooh old school |
| [01:01:52] | biffhero: | I rebooted the backend about an ago to show The Boss what she could do to fix this. |
| [01:02:04] | biffhero: | but obviously that didn't help. |
| [01:02:15] | biffhero: | I used to do an 'rmmod' thing every once in a while... |
| [01:02:29] | croccydile: | There is that ivtv-tune thing I think to manually attempt to tune |
| [01:03:23] | biffhero: | oh, what's ivtv-tune? |
| [01:03:40] | croccydile: | I think its part of the v4l2 utils or something |
| [01:03:51] | croccydile: | You can tune outside of mythtv to check to see if the tuner actually works |
| [01:03:55] | biffhero: | yep, it's static. maybe I should reboot the STB? |
| [01:04:06] | biffhero: | well, I tune via the "channel" script and a serial cable. |
| [01:04:34] | biffhero: | oh, I see, use ivtv as a tv tuner? But that won't get anything, since Comcast is all digital around here now. |
| [01:05:20] | biffhero: | ok, rebooted the stb |
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| [01:06:10] | croccydile: | Oh |
| [01:06:24] | croccydile: | I see you are using video in |
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| [01:09:42] | biffhero: | yeah. |
| [01:09:54] | biffhero: | Well, I think I am. I might be using channel 3 tuning... |
| [01:11:13] | biffhero: | ugh, that was it. |
| [01:11:21] | biffhero: | ivtv-tune -c3 |
| [01:11:24] | biffhero: | thank you google! |
| [01:11:48] | biffhero: | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux . . . t-up-804792/ |
| [01:12:39] | croccydile: | Well the 250 does have a better comb filter than the 150 or 500 |
| [01:12:48] | croccydile: | However it would be a very good idea to try s-video if possible |
| [01:12:54] | croccydile: | Or at least composite... RF is horrifying |
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| [03:41:20] | wagnerrp: | bah... to be continued... |
| [03:41:28] | wagnerrp: | stupid castle... |
| [03:44:06] | bill6502: | Stana... |
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| [04:34:10] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp, still awake? |
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| [04:56:55] | Oleg_: | anyone awake? |
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| [06:11:33] | lautriv: | i found a small problem with the detetcion of drives for recordings. if one has a drive mounted via NFS it gets correctly noticed as one drive, even if multiple backends mount the drive. not so on e.g. iscsi, where they count up as different drives. not that hard but may confuse the balancing decisions. |
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| [11:14:09] | wagnerrp: | lautriv: the detection mechanism is supposed to work across multiple machines, with a bit of fuzzing factor to account for discrepancies when the drives are being written to |
| [11:19:52] | lautriv: | wagnerrp, if i had 3 drives on NFS, it showed 3 drives with multiple machine@mount entries, the very same setup but with iscsi shows me 6 drives. i have not really a problem with this but the consideration where to write may be a bit confused. |
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| [11:20:44] | wagnerrp: | it doesn't show independent drives, it shows independent partitions |
| [11:21:01] | wagnerrp: | and with iscsi, you must have had separate partitions for each machine that had them mounted |
| [11:21:12] | wagnerrp: | or else, you were using some funky parallel filesystem |
| [11:21:42] | lautriv: | distributed locking and caching. |
| [11:21:56] | stuarta: | which filesystem? |
| [11:22:20] | lautriv: | right now testing with XFS and ext4 |
| [11:22:28] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that's horribly broken |
| [11:22:50] | wagnerrp: | you can't simply wave a magic wand and mount XFS or EXT4 on two different machines simultaneously |
| [11:22:58] | stuarta: | well nothing wrong with xfs and ext4 on a *single* node |
| [11:23:30] | wagnerrp: | you _can_ mount the same iscsi disk on two different machines, if those two machines are mounting two separate partitions on that single disk |
| [11:23:40] | stuarta: | on mulitple nodes you *will* corrupt the filesystem metadata, if you are lucky fsck can fix it |
| [11:23:48] | wagnerrp: | or, if you are using a special filesystem that allows multiple simultaneous access |
| [11:23:56] | stuarta: | such as GFS2 |
| [11:24:09] | stuarta: | nfs is much easier |
| [11:24:54] | ** stuarta deals with these sort of breakages every day ** | |
| [11:25:31] | lautriv: | stuarta, i was on NFS for decades but recent versions crash if you have NUMA + more than 30MB/s |
| [11:25:50] | stuarta: | interesting |
| [11:25:55] | stuarta: | numa on the server? |
| [11:26:00] | stuarta: | +nfs |
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| [11:32:57] | wagnerrp: | as in, your backend is a multi-socket server? |
| [11:33:21] | lautriv: | yes. |
| [11:33:51] | wagnerrp: | even still NUMA on x86 systems does not prevent access to memory, merely latency |
| [11:34:04] | wagnerrp: | it should have no effect on the software running on it, aside from speed |
| [11:34:14] | wagnerrp: | unless they are poorly written and prone to race conditions |
| [11:34:45] | ** stuarta wonders if there is a bugzilla for such things ** | |
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| [11:35:49] | wagnerrp: | whatever the case, the duplicate filesystem detection works off free and total space |
| [11:36:03] | wagnerrp: | the consequence is that use of ZFS and multiple datasets is completely broken |
| [11:36:34] | wagnerrp: | and if you're using network mounted filesystems, in parallel, there is a chance they can get out of sync on free space, and report too far a difference to be recognized as the same filesystem |
| [11:37:02] | ** stuarta is still fascinated by the possibility that there are nfs issues on numa systems ** | |
| [11:37:40] | stuarta: | lautriv: you have a `numactl --show` output from that server? |
| [11:38:18] | wagnerrp: | well i'm out... i'm already 15 minutes late if i leave now |
| [11:38:27] | stuarta: | wagnerrp: maybe for nfs volumes we should pull the fsid |
| [11:38:59] | ** stuarta ponders using `blkid` for volume identification ** | |
| [11:39:07] | lautriv: | stuarta, actually not, changing a lot these days. even worse, they have also issues on latest XFS, from what i could get it is about deep stacking of bot. |
| [11:39:11] | wagnerrp: | we could do a lot of things, and that's been an issue i've had on my list for a while |
| [11:39:18] | wagnerrp: | although primarily to make it work properly with ZFS |
| [11:39:51] | stuarta: | lautriv: who has issues on latest XFS ? |
| [11:40:24] | lautriv: | BFS V4 |
| [11:40:28] | lautriv: | err N |
| [11:40:50] | stuarta: | NFS v4, yeah, that is still settling down |
| [11:44:27] | stuarta: | NFS v3 is pretty rock solid. so i'd use that |
| [11:46:15] | stuarta: | so on f19 blkid returns nothing as a user. that is unhelpful |
| [11:51:52] | stuarta: | oooo `lsblk --fs |
| [11:56:35] | lautriv: | yes, V3 is somewhat stable but even slower and has other problems like user-mapping. |
| [11:56:55] | stuarta: | either way, neither blkid or lsblk do nfs, not surprising really |
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| [11:58:58] | lautriv: | because it is not really exporting any drive |
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| [12:07:34] | lautriv: | about the network-drives, is there some way to name the recordings by show/episode/date instead that long channelid-date thingie ? |
| [12:14:04] | GreyFoxx: | There is a script that comes with the myth source that will rename them by the show title and date. Can't remember it's name offhand |
| [12:15:30] | GreyFoxx: | that or it symlinks "pretty" names to the regular name |
| [12:15:36] | GreyFoxx: | mythlink.pl I think it was called |
| [12:32:33] | lautriv: | will have a look when done with upgrading, actually i wonder about some performance-wise changes since my showings are always streamed from backend and i may reduce the load with some read from alternate location. however that might be a DB issue. |
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| [13:05:29] | stuartm: | GreyFoxx, lautriv: as the name implies, mythlink doesn't rename the recordings but it creates links to them using the title etc |
| [13:05:49] | stuartm: | if you renamed the recordings mythtv wouldn't be able to find them |
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| [13:07:16] | stuartm: | stuarta: how did the exam go? |
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| [13:08:43] | lautriv: | stuartm, i would be fine with links but wonder if there is a proper way from the frontends side. i remember somewhen in the past (years ago) there was a checkbox for "always stream from backend" how else may i get my recordings if i.e. the backend is down but i can access the recordings ? |
| [13:09:53] | stuarta: | well how can you access the recordings if your backend is down? are they not stored on the backend doing the recording? |
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| [13:14:36] | lautriv: | stuartm, i have a master and 2 slaves, also external storage. |
| [13:15:09] | Oleg_: | hi |
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| [13:16:58] | lautriv: | stuartm, the backends are 24/7 up but it happens somethimes mythbackend crashes ( eating all resources and waiting to be kickassed by my script ) |
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| [13:21:43] | stuarta: | lautriv: we like to know about crashes so we can fix them |
| [13:25:04] | lautriv: | stuarta, i don't assume it is the backend by design but my former issues with NFS V4. probably disapearing when i got rid of NFS. however it is a bottleneck to stream from backend if i may use another net to watch, just no idea how the frontent may handle this. |
| [13:27:34] | stuarta: | i run my backend under monit, and it's been a *long* time since monit has had to kick a backend for me |
| [13:28:25] | lautriv: | and you don't NFS V$ on recordings which is probably the issue here. |
| [13:28:35] | lautriv: | S->4 |
| [13:28:47] | stuarta: | nope, all my storage is local to my backend |
| [13:29:15] | lautriv: | do you run a slave-backend ? |
| [13:29:20] | stuarta: | nope |
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| [13:29:40] | stuarta: | i'm thinking up how i can rig up tests for this. shouldn't be too difficult |
| [13:32:24] | lautriv: | the setup not but the removing backend if you are done . |
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| [16:41:16] | croccydile: | I seem to have run out of right angle sata connectors >< |
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| [17:08:32] | Guest42292: | looking for some help.... just upgraded from .26 to .27 and can't get mythweb working again |
| [17:09:19] | Guest42292: | it appears the page render is being interrupted and results in an http 500, but no errors are getting logged |
| [17:10:38] | Guest42292: | the portion of the page that is returned appears to have incorrect urls to the skin items |
| [17:22:19] | lautriv: | Guest42292, upgraded what distro ? |
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| [17:24:45] | Guest42292: | d/l'ed the tarball from mythtv.org |
| [17:25:09] | lautriv: | Guest42292, that's not what i asked. |
| [17:27:12] | Guest42292: | not sure what you're asking.... the new 'current' release is 0.27... was previously 0.26 |
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| [17:33:15] | Guest42292: | i removed mythtv, then compiled and installed source from github. |
| [17:34:35] | Guest42292: | then i replaced the .026 version of mythweb with the contents of http://www.mythtv.org/download/mythweb/0.27 |
| [17:35:09] | lautriv: | Guest42292, what http-server, what PHP, what ..... |
| [17:35:59] | Guest42292: | Apache 2.4.4; PHP 5.4.14 |
| [17:36:46] | lautriv: | Guest42292, see 500 is internal server error but that means NOT the mythbackend, conclusion : surrounding stuff. wild assumtion : bad perms or missing module. |
| [17:37:17] | lautriv: | Guest42292, did you read the README about mythweb ? |
| [17:37:23] | Guest42292: | yeah, i figured that, just not sure where else to look |
| [17:37:27] | Guest42292: | yes i have read, and re-read |
| [17:37:46] | lautriv: | Guest42292, and you didn't notice the use PHP 5.3 ? |
| [17:38:20] | Guest42292: | yes... shouldn't a later version be acceptable |
| [17:38:33] | Guest42292: | it's the same version i was using with the previous mythweb |
| [17:39:36] | lautriv: | Guest42292, no. later versions bring also things into the game which can't be seen before, in the case of PHP you would need to change something but then, appears more to be an apache problem since 2.4 differs a lot from 2.2 also there are changes. |
| [17:40:05] | lautriv: | Guest42292, what mods-enabled ? |
| [17:42:06] | Guest42292: | Loaded Modules: |
| [17:42:07] | Guest42292: | core_module (static) |
| [17:42:07] | Guest42292: | so_module (static) |
| [17:42:07] | Guest42292: | http_module (static) |
| [17:42:07] | Guest42292: | access_compat_module (shared) |
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| [17:42:25] | bindi: | MTV3 MAX Sport 2 HD;Anvia:266000:M256:C:6875:3432:3433:3434:b00:334:70:22:0 |
| [17:42:34] | lautriv: | Guest42292, that's all ? |
| [17:42:35] | bindi: | how to convert this into something that mythtv can understand? |
| [17:43:08] | bindi: | and how to import it into mythtv then |
| [17:43:34] | Guest42292: | yes? is there something missing |
| [17:43:47] | lautriv: | bindi, afaik such things failed in the past, just use your mythtv-setup and scan or manually enter . |
| [17:44:03] | bindi: | manually enter over 100 channels? also mythtv isn't finding anything.. |
| [17:44:13] | croccydile: | Holy hell this machine is a lot of wires now >< |
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| [17:45:18] | lautriv: | bindi, if the scan results in nothing, either you have no signal or wrong values. did you see the signal-strenght and SNR ? |
| [17:45:33] | bindi: | one moment, might've missed a step in the setup |
| [17:46:19] | lautriv: | Guest42292, alias,cgi,rewrite ......also mentioned in the readme. did you upgrade the apache in the same time ? |
| [17:46:35] | Guest42292: | no... same apache and php as before |
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| [17:47:14] | croccydile: | Dusty :c https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2wkibit4qu9cdv/IMG . . . 4_134521.jpg |
| [17:47:18] | lautriv: | Guest42292, afair rewrite and cgi is a must have |
| [17:47:20] | Guest42292: | wait.... those are all in the list i pasted |
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| [17:48:10] | lautriv: | Guest42292, you pasted only 4 and those were wrong. |
| [17:48:24] | Guest42292: | ohh.... something went wrong then |
| [17:48:51] | Guest42292: | Loaded Modules: |
| [17:48:51] | Guest42292: | core_module (static) |
| [17:48:51] | Guest42292: | so_module (static) |
| [17:48:51] | Guest42292: | http_module (static) |
| [17:48:51] | Guest42292: | access_compat_module (shared) |
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| [17:48:52] | lautriv: | Guest42292, nah. you were kicked by flooding because this is not ##pastebin :P |
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| [17:49:07] | Guest42292: | whoops... did it again |
| [17:49:10] | lautriv: | Guest42292, nah. you were kicked by flooding because this is not ##pastebin :P |
| [17:49:51] | Guest42292: | http://pastebin.com/Q530r3g4 |
| [17:50:10] | bindi: | lautriv: http://bindibox.net/ul/2013/09/24/5241d0ca45a65.png how do i continue |
| [17:50:50] | bindi: | clicking next says error parsing parameters |
| [17:50:52] | lautriv: | bindi, sat or cable ? |
| [17:50:54] | bindi: | cable |
| [17:51:32] | lautriv: | bindi, go to the site of your provider and look for basic settings, rest is automagic. |
| [17:52:19] | lautriv: | bindi, symbol rate is unklikely, probably more your frequency ;) |
| [17:53:12] | bindi: | so i have to figure out freq? |
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| [17:55:04] | bindi: | well there we go |
| [17:55:12] | bindi: | why can't it do it all automatically? |
| [17:55:22] | lautriv: | bindi, where did you get the 6900000 from ? |
| [17:55:30] | bindi: | it was there, but its supposed to be 6850 |
| [17:55:53] | bindi: | found all my channels anyway now :p |
| [17:56:10] | lautriv: | bindi, i "could" be done automatic but would you waste hours to check out all possibilities ? |
| [17:56:22] | bindi: | w_scan took 12 minutes |
| [17:56:39] | lautriv: | even w_scan got some bbasics |
| [17:57:53] | bindi: | ugh |
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| [17:58:00] | bindi: | in all this hassle i forgot if mythtv asked for username/pw |
| [17:58:10] | bindi: | how to change them so i can connect xbmc to it? :p |
| [17:58:57] | bindi: | or how to create one |
| [17:59:17] | bindi: | aha, mysql.txt |
| [17:59:20] | Guest42292: | lautriv, were you able to see the entire list of modules? |
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| [18:00:49] | lautriv: | Guest42292, yes and it was "enought", did you restart apache ? |
| [18:01:24] | Guest42292: | yes... no change |
| [18:02:52] | lautriv: | and no log ? |
| [18:03:15] | Guest42292: | well, there is a log, but it doesn't contain any error detail |
| [18:03:30] | Guest42292: | except for http 500's for all the skin files because of a wrong path |
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| [18:06:59] | lautriv: | checked that path ? |
| [18:09:42] | Guest42292: | i don't think they are being generated correctly.... the portion of the page which gets returned has links to (for example) "skin_url/style.css", when in fact the actual files are located at "skins/default/style.css" |
| [18:10:13] | Guest42292: | i think it's because the page execution is stopping prematurely |
| [18:11:19] | lautriv: | ah, that one . i saw somewhere a fix but assumed this is already upstream. |
| [18:11:50] | Guest42292: | i've spent a few hours on google, and can't even find a mention of it |
| [18:11:55] | ** lautriv -> eat,laters ** | |
| [18:12:17] | Guest42292: | k, thx |
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| [18:14:25] | croccydile: | Copying 2TB of recordings to a 3TB drive... this will take a long time ._.; |
| [18:14:56] | ** SpeedEvil populated a 1TB dive over usb1 ** | |
| [18:15:02] | croccydile: | @_@ |
| [18:15:08] | croccydile: | Did you want to kill yourself after? |
| [18:15:36] | SpeedEvil: | i wasn't in a hurry |
| [18:15:46] | croccydile: | Thats like 10mbit lan speed |
| [18:15:56] | SpeedEvil: | usb1 >100mbit |
| [18:16:09] | croccydile: | Negative, unless you have it confused with usb 2 |
| [18:16:19] | croccydile: | usb 1.1 topped out at what 15mbit? |
| [18:16:27] | SpeedEvil: | err |
| [18:16:28] | croccydile: | Ah, 12 |
| [18:16:39] | SpeedEvil: | Sory – yes – you're right – I meant >10 |
| [18:16:46] | SpeedEvil: | Too many zeros |
| [18:16:52] | SpeedEvil: | 2 went to 480 |
| [18:16:55] | croccydile: | I remember those days of 10mbit lan |
| [18:17:04] | croccydile: | They were less than pleasing :p |
| [18:17:10] | SpeedEvil: | But it's still 3 gig an hour, so only 300 hours. |
| [18:17:19] | croccydile: | Holy... |
| [18:17:32] | croccydile: | I would have wanted to seppuku |
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| [18:18:06] | SpeedEvil: | it was something where just leaving it for a couple of weeks was just fine. |
| [18:20:38] | croccydile: | Then again my moment of extreme patience was downloading windows 2000 iso on 28.8 |
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| [18:23:48] | stuartm: | in those days you were likely to find that it was corrupt even if the download succeeded |
| [18:26:18] | ** SpeedEvil has quite a few CDs burned from 56k modem output :) ** | |
| [18:28:05] | ** lautriv rememers where a single media was 21 DM ** | |
| [18:33:42] | lautriv: | ok, i upgraded a bunch of frontends where 2 identical machines behave different : one works proper, the other gives me a blue screen with audio when playing anything. where to dig ? |
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| [18:47:19] | lautriv: | heh, not all at once :P |
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| [20:23:10] | Jordan``: | Anybody around willing to help? |
| [20:23:22] | Jordan``: | I've got a pctv800e |
| [20:23:35] | Jordan``: | I only want to use it for analog (us-Cable) stations |
| [20:23:43] | Jordan``: | in tvtime, I get them all, just fine |
| [20:23:54] | Jordan``: | but when I scan with mythtv-setup, it doesn't find any |
| [20:24:04] | Jordan``: | "locked" is what it says on top for each channel |
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| [20:27:03] | mengo: | hmm, is something else using the tuner? |
| [20:27:44] | Jordan``: | not that I know of. There's nothing else running |
| [20:27:46] | mengo: | hmm, I was just waching one of your videos; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDLW7xaf88Y& |
| [20:27:55] | Jordan``: | one of....my...videos? |
| [20:28:17] | mengo: | the presenter of that show is callled Jordan |
| [20:28:26] | Jordan``: | It's not me :D |
| [20:28:34] | mengo: | I guessed not |
| [20:28:36] | Jordan``: | Anyway, no, nothing else is using the tuner |
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| [20:29:02] | mengo: | can you scan for channels on the command line? |
| [20:29:13] | Jordan``: | I don't know what command to use for that, to be perfectly honest |
| [20:29:18] | mengo: | ok |
| [20:29:21] | Jordan``: | the device is /dev/video0 |
| [20:29:24] | mengo: | lets see if I can remember it |
| [20:29:42] | mengo: | ah how I miss my analogue tv days, if I knew then what I knew now .... |
| [20:29:58] | Jordan``: | s/knew now/know now |
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| [20:30:38] | Jordan``: | o, scantv |
| [20:30:39] | Jordan``: | >.< |
| [20:32:33] | mengo: | ok |
| [20:32:44] | Jordan``: | yes, it's finding channels |
| [20:33:17] | mengo: | you need to pipe the output to a file |
| [20:33:34] | mengo: | eg scan /usr/local/share/dvb/scan/dvb-t/au-Adelaide >> channels.conf |
| [20:33:48] | Jordan``: | in my home directory? |
| [20:33:54] | mengo: | sure, why not |
| [20:34:09] | Jordan``: | will mythtv pick up on it? |
| [20:34:13] | mengo: | I'm wondering what would happen if you imported that file into mythtv, |
| [20:34:15] | Jordan``: | also, it seems it'll only use the tuner if I sudo |
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| [20:34:28] | mengo: | you import it through mythsetup |
| [20:34:42] | mengo: | damn I'm doing this from memory and not being much help, sorry |
| [20:34:45] | Jordan``: | it's not outputting a table |
| [20:35:45] | mengo: | what was the command you ran? |
| [20:35:54] | mengo: | in full please |
| [20:36:11] | Jordan``: | scantv -n NTSC -f us-Cable | thepb |
| [20:36:36] | mengo: | try |
| [20:36:47] | mengo: | scantv -n NTSC -f us-Cable >> ~/thepb |
| [20:37:03] | Jordan``: | thepb is a pastebin my friend created |
| [20:37:04] | mengo: | assuming thepb is going to be your channels file |
| [20:37:09] | mengo: | oh |
| [20:37:17] | mengo: | scantv -n NTSC -f us-Cable >> ~/channels.conf |
| [20:37:52] | Jordan``: | http://thepb.in/5241f7c4e4f8c |
| [20:37:55] | Jordan``: | that's what I got |
| [20:38:41] | mengo: | looks promising, I think |
| [20:39:07] | Jordan``: | alright, it's going |
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| [20:39:55] | mengo: | can you run mythsetup in a window |
| [20:40:09] | mengo: | mythtv-setup --geometry 1280x800 --mouse-cursor -w -v |
| [20:40:30] | Jordan``: | ooh, that might work better, especially over an SSH x session |
| [20:40:49] | Jordan``: | btw, I've a server and a laptop |
| [20:40:53] | Jordan``: | the tuner is on the server |
| [20:41:02] | mengo: | ah |
| [20:41:06] | Jordan``: | and using X without a window manager SUCKS |
| [20:41:32] | mengo: | hmm, I dunno, my server is headless and I run mythsetup over ssh / X11 forwarding too |
| [20:41:50] | Jordan``: | well I have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse on it |
| [20:41:55] | Jordan``: | but I don't ever want to use it |
| [20:41:57] | Jordan``: | if that makes sense |
| [20:42:03] | mengo: | sure |
| [20:42:20] | mengo: | mine sits in a cupboard, power, network and a tv aerial |
| [20:42:46] | Jordan``: | mine is in my closet |
| [20:42:57] | Jordan``: | I also use it as a gateway for my home network |
| [20:42:59] | Jordan``: | so... yea. |
| [20:43:23] | mengo: | I don't use mine as a gateway, yet |
| [20:44:20] | Jordan``: | now, for the windowed mode, that's all I need? |
| [20:44:22] | mengo: | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/mengos . . . IMAG0007.jpg |
| [20:44:31] | mengo: | aww, doesn't she look lonely |
| [20:44:39] | mengo: | well, thats how I run it |
| [20:46:02] | mengo: | obviously set the geometry to whatever suits you |
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| [20:47:38] | Jordan``: | yea |
| [20:47:40] | Jordan``: | one second |
| [20:48:52] | Jordan``: | mengo: http://thepb.in/uploads/sfw/5241faab410d2.jpg |
| [20:49:38] | mengo: | oooh yours has a vent in the side, mine doesn't yet |
| [20:49:52] | mengo: | mine makes a funny noise that scares me, does yours? |
| [20:50:00] | Jordan``: | my fan is very loud |
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| [20:50:26] | Jordan``: | http://thepb.in/5241fb0f4c63b |
| [20:50:45] | mengo: | http://mengoshmink.dyndns.org:61080/proc/index.php?disp=static |
| [20:50:58] | Mephisto3: | Hello Guys. Quick Problem: MythTV is not saving any information (about the recording) it saves like 2013-09–11_23–05.mpg |
| [20:51:06] | Jordan``: | mengo: no permission |
| [20:51:17] | mengo: | hmm, meh :P |
| [20:51:21] | Jordan``: | also, dyndns is gross. get a domain and switch to dns.he.net :P |
| [20:51:26] | Mephisto3: | I can edit the data in xbmc however I only find some english version of the metadata |
| [20:51:45] | mengo: | I'm too uncool for that Jordan`` |
| [20:51:47] | Jordan``: | lol |
| [20:51:48] | tgm4883: | Mephisto3, 2013-09–11_23–05.mpg isn't a Mythtv filename |
| [20:51:54] | Jordan``: | how do I import my channel list, now? |
| [20:52:02] | Mephisto3: | well It was an example, Something like the date. |
| [20:52:13] | mengo: | I have no idea Mephisto3 |
| [20:52:34] | mengo: | Jordan``, your not running mythbackend? |
| [20:52:41] | Jordan``: | I am, why? |
| [20:52:47] | mengo: | ack! |
| [20:52:59] | tgm4883: | Mephisto3, so it's not writing anything in the database? |
| [20:52:59] | mengo: | if it is running then it is using the tuner |
| [20:53:24] | mengo: | you need to have mythbackend stopped when scanning for channels with mythtv |
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| [20:53:35] | Jordan``: | oh, sorry, it's not running |
| [20:53:55] | Mephisto3: | tgm4883: That's it. XBMC is always using TheMovieDatabase, but as the filename is only a date, it cannot be filled with something. The recordings are not live but scheduled using mythweb |
| [20:54:30] | Mephisto3: | (however mythweb may not be the problem. XBMC shows "next recording scheduled <film> at wx:yz" |
| [20:54:33] | Jordan``: | Anyway, how do I import a scan? |
| [20:54:43] | mengo: | Jordan``, okay, you setup the "capture cards" "video sources" tabs in mythsetup? |
| [20:54:48] | Jordan``: | yes |
| [20:54:52] | tgm4883: | Mephisto3, ah, then I'll resort to, "Don't try to mess with MythTV recordings outside of MythTV"(TM) |
| [20:54:53] | mengo: | ok |
| [20:55:03] | mengo: | import in the channel editor tab |
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| [20:55:12] | Jordan``: | there is no "import" |
| [20:55:15] | mengo: | channels scan |
| [20:55:34] | mengo: | and in the drop down, change full scan to import from ... |
| [20:55:35] | tgm4883: | Mephisto3, IIRC, there is a program that will make a symlink to something user readable, but IDK what it is |
| [20:55:36] | Jordan``: | does channels.conf have to be in a certain place? |
| [20:55:49] | Mephisto3: | It's 14106_201309112305.mpg or so, (just checked it) |
| [20:56:01] | Mephisto3: | tgm4883: So you say I shall use mythtv-frontend for recordings? |
| [20:56:25] | tgm4883: | Mephisto3, yes, the recommended way to watch mythtv recordings would be to use the mythtv frontend |
| [20:56:57] | mengo: | you found it Jordan`` or do you want a screenie? |
| [20:57:04] | Mephisto3: | I'll check if it has information |
| [20:57:14] | Jordan``: | well I am to where I need to import |
| [20:57:18] | Jordan``: | but I don't know how to find the file |
| [20:57:20] | Jordan``: | I can't type in the box |
| [20:57:24] | Jordan``: | and there's nothing in the drop down |
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| [20:57:59] | mengo: | oh |
| [20:58:46] | mengo: | In mine I can select: scan type: import channels.conf and then a box below file location: I can type in the location eg ~/channels.conf |
| [20:59:03] | Jordan``: | scan type: import existing scan |
| [20:59:15] | Mephisto3: | tgm4883: confirmed, that does work. So there Is a problem with xmbc importing information? |
| [20:59:34] | mengo: | nope, not that option |
| [20:59:35] | Jordan``: | X11 remote session is SLOW |
| [20:59:38] | tgm4883: | Mephisto3, are you using the XBMC PVR mythtv addon? |
| [20:59:40] | Jordan``: | that's the only option |
| [20:59:43] | Jordan``: | other than full scan |
| [20:59:49] | mengo: | oh |
| [20:59:51] | mengo: | weird |
| [21:00:49] | Mephisto3: | yes I do |
| [21:02:26] | Jordan``: | I'm having too much trouble with this |
| [21:02:36] | Jordan``: | I love the idea of mythtv, but I've never been able to get it to work correctly >.< |
| [21:03:04] | mengo: | which mythtv you running? |
| [21:03:12] | mengo: | I have been lucky, no major probs |
| [21:03:19] | mengo: | also which distro? |
| [21:03:26] | Jordan``: | ubuntu 12.10 |
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| [21:04:12] | Jordan``: | sorry, 12.04 LTS |
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| [21:04:57] | mengo: | hmm, mythtv 0.26? |
| [21:05:05] | Jordan``: | how do I check? |
| [21:05:29] | Jordan``: | 0.25 |
| [21:05:30] | Jordan``: | >.< |
| [21:05:36] | mengo: | mythbackend --version |
| [21:05:43] | mengo: | oh |
| [21:05:45] | mengo: | hmm |
| [21:05:52] | Mephisto3: | tgm4883: Any clue? |
| [21:06:03] | Jordan``: | how do I update? |
| [21:06:35] | Jordan``: | I installed from the repos |
| [21:06:56] | mengo: | http://thepb.in/uploads/priv/5241fee26cb0b.jpg |
| [21:07:15] | Jordan``: | that's dvb |
| [21:07:16] | mengo: | umm, I don't know for Ubuntu |
| [21:07:51] | mengo: | thats just the tuner, I used channels.conf when I had analogue only |
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| [21:09:34] | Jordan``: | ah |
| [21:10:03] | mengo: | my mythtv setups have pretty much always just worked |
| [21:10:10] | mengo: | I've been lucky I guess |
| [21:10:11] | tgm4883: | Mephisto3, no, you'll need to talk to XBMC people |
| [21:11:15] | Mephisto3: | btw I have an "old" mythtv version I guess. apt wanted me to upgrade, but it might break the xbmc-addon |
| [21:11:16] | mengo: | sorry Jordan`` but I'm going to have to give up, I have stuff to do before I go to bed |
| [21:11:47] | Jordan``: | I'm going to upgrade my server |
| [21:11:54] | Jordan``: | to the latest dist |
| [21:11:58] | Jordan``: | that'll allow me to get .27 |
| [21:12:01] | Jordan``: | and hopefully get this working |
| [21:12:07] | Mephisto3: | < MythTV Version : v0.26.0 |
| [21:12:19] | mengo: | I'm still on 0.26 |
| [21:12:38] | Jordan``: | -shrug- if I'm going to update, I mind as well update |
| [21:12:43] | mengo: | but going to change server from centos to debian, when I have finished testing in a vbox |
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| [21:13:19] | Jordan``: | hurray for debian! |
| [21:13:37] | mengo: | http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mengoshmink/m . . . 046.mp4.html |
| [21:13:52] | Jordan``: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [21:13:52] | mengo: | all important, someone sleeping at my work |
| [21:13:54] | Jordan``: | that's whatI'm going off |
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| [21:53:34] | Quantum`: | I need to connect to the database through the 3306 rather than the socket. But the Myth frontend insists on using the socket. How do I fix this? |
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| [22:11:25] | Quantum`: | Hey, thanks... |
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