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| [00:05:59] | wagnerrp: | fewer monitors, more laptops... http://www.wagnerrp.com/files/IMG_0030.JPG |
| [00:06:18] | croccydile: | :3 |
| [00:10:44] | croccydile: | Uhhhh my phone is possessed! |
| [00:10:46] | croccydile: | ;_; |
| [00:10:50] | croccydile: | It just started playing music |
| [00:11:10] | wagnerrp: | i really need to clean off my desk |
| [00:11:20] | wagnerrp: | i haven't be able to use that laptop on the left for a month |
| [00:11:59] | croccydile: | I have mine on a stand next to my bed |
| [00:12:24] | wagnerrp: | this one is like 12 years old, can't go without power |
| [00:13:05] | croccydile: | old IBM? |
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| [00:38:39] | croccydile: | Transcoding this 1080i show is taking a long time ._.; |
| [00:43:46] | wagnerrp: | Kwisher: just broadcast |
| [00:45:25] | Kwisher: | me too and i don't have a conflict with ironside |
| [00:47:07] | wagnerrp: | i have some local subchannel that broadcasts old television shows |
| [00:47:21] | Kwisher: | me too |
| [00:47:31] | croccydile: | they have that here too, they had some old godzilla movie on the other day |
| [00:47:45] | croccydile: | they play like all the stuff I imagine must be ultra cheap to license |
| [00:47:50] | wagnerrp: | it's not a conflict, just that the standard "record all" rule picks up both series |
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| [01:14:53] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, record all (and all other rules) match on title, not any particular series ID, but there's a "this series" filter that can be used to get just the remake or whatever |
| [01:15:41] | sphery: | (in new versions, that is--in older, you have to use a custom/power rule or a new episodes filter or similar) |
| [01:15:54] | wagnerrp: | yeah. i added that and that did the trick |
| [01:15:59] | sphery: | cool |
| [01:18:14] | sphery: | the idea is that if you want to record all episodes of some show, then any other shows (or movies) of the same name may also be interesting to you and it's better to record them and let them be deleted unless specifically told otherwise |
| [01:20:36] | wagnerrp: | seems the new show of the old name is a remake of the old show |
| [01:21:42] | Kwisher: | except he is now african american :) |
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| [01:22:21] | wagnerrp: | isn't Raymond Burr also african american? |
| [01:22:36] | Kwisher: | nope |
| [01:22:40] | wagnerrp: | he looks like he could have a bit of Egyptian descent |
| [01:23:05] | Kwisher: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Burr |
| [01:23:18] | Kwisher: | he also played perry mason |
| [01:23:30] | wagnerrp: | i knew a guy who was the whitest irishman you ever saw, last name of o'brian |
| [01:23:49] | wagnerrp: | he was born in Egypt, carried dual citizenship, and enjoyed screwing with people by telling them he was african american |
| [01:24:02] | Kwisher: | lol |
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| [01:33:27] | biffhero: | wagnerrp: nice setup, do you use x2x ? |
| [01:34:40] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [01:36:38] | wagnerrp: | i used synergy for a while, but controlling a screen that far off to the side is a bit clumsy |
| [01:38:00] | biffhero: | yeah |
| [01:40:52] | croccydile: | Heh I remember that from someone who was south african... also african american :p |
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| [08:54:12] | homebrewcider: | hey there, having trouble labelling recordings. Someone helped me here before and had me run a mythlink job. now it won't run, "cannot connect to the database" |
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| [10:58:04] | lautriv: | homebrewcider, that message appears if your backend/mythconverg is either not reachable or bad configured. |
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| [11:16:52] | homebrewcider: | hmmm, it's worked well before, this is a mystery |
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| [16:24:11] | MrShake: | anyone here have experiance with xbmc/cmyth? |
| [16:24:17] | MrShake: | I'm trying to get it to work |
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| [16:31:26] | FLeiXiuS: | MrShake, Yes. |
| [16:31:30] | FLeiXiuS: | MrShake, Which version of xbmc? |
| [16:31:53] | FLeiXiuS: | I have myth 0.26 and eden 11 working out of the box with the myth pvr plugin for xbmc |
| [16:33:37] | MrShake: | frodo |
| [16:33:45] | MrShake: | myth 26 adn frodo |
| [16:34:57] | MrShake: | I'm getting some kind of connection error |
| [16:35:00] | MrShake: | http://pastebin.com/fXFUD17H |
| [16:35:03] | MrShake: | theres the xbmc log |
| [16:35:05] | MrShake: | if that helps |
| [16:35:18] | MrShake: | gathering a backend log now |
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| [16:41:01] | FLeiXiuS: | MrShake, Are you using the built in addon or are you compiling cyth |
| [16:41:10] | FLeiXiuS: | the built in pluggin has worked for a while now |
| [16:41:19] | MrShake: | built in |
| [16:42:05] | MrShake: | this is built on openElec |
| [16:42:15] | MrShake: | what distro are you using FLeiXiuS |
| [16:43:53] | MrShake: | http://pastebin.com/qHSpXqQA |
| [16:43:57] | MrShake: | thats the backend |
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| [16:55:21] | FLeiXiuS: | MrShake, I'm on ubuntu 12.04 |
| [16:56:47] | MrShake: | k |
| [16:56:52] | MrShake: | and then just apt-get installed xbmc? |
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| [17:01:04] | FLeiXiuS: | MrShake, Using hte xbmc ppa sure. |
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| [18:05:09] | lautriv: | i have recording rules in DB but they don't show up (any longer) and also no green border around it in listings, how to fix that ? |
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| [18:12:10] | FLeiXiuS: | lautriv, Why arent they showing up? |
| [18:12:22] | FLeiXiuS: | lautriv, Ask your self that..also make sure they're not being deactivated |
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| [18:13:10] | lautriv: | FLeiXiuS, mythconverg is always a bit flaky, happend several times but this time, i can't add . |
| [18:21:30] | FLeiXiuS: | lautriv, Do you have mythweb installed/ |
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| [18:22:15] | lautriv: | FLeiXiuS, yes |
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| [18:22:45] | FLeiXiuS: | lautriv, You should be able to toggle what's going on in the 'upcoming recordings' page |
| [18:24:18] | lautriv: | appears to be "normal" but doesn't show up in listing and also won't appear in upcoming recordings, even repair and optimise tables did't do the trick. actually cancelling all schedules and will try to readd then. |
| [18:25:01] | FLeiXiuS: | lautriv, Did you check all of the boxes? |
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| [18:51:17] | lautriv: | re-adding worked (for now) |
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| [19:39:15] | johanbr: | Hi. What is the format for the --starttime option in mythutil? I've tried a few different formats, but haven't been successful. |
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| [20:10:48] | MrShake: | well.. I'm gonna try xbmc from the ppa on my xubuntu partition |
| [20:10:50] | MrShake: | see what happens |
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| [20:15:10] | NarroMind: | I think my php got upgraded on fedora core 18..and now I see some oddness in mythweb. It looks like it has some trouble working with dates. When I look at upcoming the date field is empty. Also the grouping by day is gone |
| [20:16:56] | NarroMind: | in the apache error log I see. PHP Warning: Unknown: function '0' not found or invalid function name in Unknown on line 0, referer: http://192.168.10.3/mythweb/tv/upcoming?sortby=recdate |
| [20:23:40] | MrShake: | hrm... just tried xbmc from xubuntu.. but its frodo |
| [20:23:47] | MrShake: | FLeiXiuS, you said you were using eden? |
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| [22:53:28] | johanbr: | Looking at the source code, the variable for --starttime in mythutil is of time QDateTime, which suggests that dates in the form "2013-01–01 01:01" should be accepted. It appears that the time is ignored: |
| [22:56:13] | johanbr: | mythutil --getskiplist --chanid 1061 --starttime "2013-09–17 11:11" gives "No program data exists for channel 1061 at 20130917000000" |
| [22:56:49] | johanbr: | ... so it gets the date part, but the time is not set |
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| [22:58:12] | ** croccydile starts to sweat as hes almost out of space on his recording disk ** | |
| [22:58:22] | Clam: | eek that sucks dude |
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| [22:59:17] | Clam: | at least you got it running the way you want it |
| [22:59:24] | Clam: | im still at the design phase of my HTPC |
| [23:00:15] | Clam: | im re-reading the mythtv wiki |
| [23:00:51] | Clam: | still not sure about my firewire card being compatible. its from an HP with a TI chip tsb41ab3 |
| [23:01:18] | Clam: | tsb43ab3 is in the wiki stating it will work but unsure of this one. |
| [23:02:10] | croccydile: | Oh my |
| [23:02:16] | croccydile: | I know firewire here is a no no |
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| [23:02:32] | Clam: | i would be using it only for the channel changing script |
| [23:02:39] | Clam: | could care less about capturing from it. |
| [23:02:50] | croccydile: | Well it did take me a long time to get it working here |
| [23:03:21] | Clam: | from what i was reading its just making a script and adding it into mythtv front end right? |
| [23:03:38] | croccydile: | Yes I use a channel changer script for my ir blaster |
| [23:04:08] | Clam: | i have a comcast rng110 |
| [23:04:23] | Clam: | in my experience ir blasters dont work |
| [23:04:38] | Clam: | so finding an alternative would be better. |
| [23:04:48] | croccydile: | Yeah apparently ever since lirc screwed around with the mce_usb driver |
| [23:05:02] | croccydile: | I had to get an iguanaworks IR transciever to actually get working results |
| [23:06:13] | Clam: | so either i stay with my current htpc setup (e8400 on a intel dg45fc and use an IR blaster) or i switch to an c2d 2.3ghz setup with a mini-atx mobo to add the firewire card |
| [23:06:34] | croccydile: | heh that sounds oddly similar to one of my old systems |
| [23:07:28] | Clam: | im on basic cable so capturing HD isnt even in the picture, but watching it via dvd, etc. is a must |
| [23:07:45] | Clam: | i love the linuxmce front end, but hate EVERYTHING else about it. |
| [23:07:50] | Clam: | so im stuck with mythbuntu |
| [23:08:21] | Clam: | im not even sure if my current IR blasters will be compatible with mythbuntu |
| [23:08:54] | Clam: | had to get a new happauge 1250 just to get that compatible. but *shrugs* it was at a decent price |
| [23:09:38] | croccydile: | Well I have a 2250 as 2x analog is fun |
| [23:09:54] | croccydile: | Thankfully my provider isnt a total cock like comcast and basic cable is still clear |
| [23:10:45] | Clam: | yeah im stuck with comcast. |
| [23:10:54] | Clam: | f***ing hate them |
| [23:10:58] | Clam: | such crooks |
| [23:11:21] | croccydile: | also the hdpvr for the STB for digital channels |
| [23:12:23] | Clam: | do you think the loss of 700mhz will matter as much on mythbuntu? |
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| [23:13:21] | croccydile: | What do you mean |
| [23:14:14] | Clam: | c2d e8400 = 3.0ghz |
| [23:14:25] | Clam: | my other setup is a c2d =2.3 ghz |
| [23:15:06] | croccydile: | Hardware cards you could be running on a P3–500mhz and it would still work |
| [23:15:06] | Clam: | im contemplating switching it out due to the fact the current e8400 cpu setup only has one pcie slot |
| [23:15:18] | croccydile: | Its playback that is the cpu speed question |
| [23:15:47] | Clam: | the c2d with 2.3ghz is a full mini-atx with way more slots |
| [23:16:11] | croccydile: | Yeah that is the only thing that bugs me about mini-itx is the single slot... however the machine is nice and compact |
| [23:16:14] | Clam: | and i tried switching the cpus |
| [23:16:32] | Clam: | older motherboard wont accept the e8400 :'( |
| [23:17:07] | Clam: | when i had wmc on the 2.3ghz we didnt have any problems playing hd stuff. |
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| [23:17:20] | Clam: | so im thinking it should work. |
| [23:17:39] | croccydile: | I think even the old conroe 1.6ghz (e6300) is capable of HD playback |
| [23:17:40] | Clam: | that is unless mythbuntu has more overhead than wmc |
| [23:17:44] | croccydile: | Albiet the minimum |
| [23:18:07] | Clam: | hehe speak of the devil. |
| [23:18:31] | croccydile: | Likely the old board doesnt have the bios for the wolfdale cpu |
| [23:19:09] | Clam: | i have a 1.6ghz atom mini-itx board as was going to just load the frontend on and have it utilize the backend of this very htpc build we are discussing lolz |
| [23:19:39] | Clam: | its just simply not compatible, i looked it up on intel's site. |
| [23:19:55] | croccydile: | Oh dear god I could have told you that too |
| [23:19:58] | Clam: | heart sank a little when i read it. |
| [23:19:59] | croccydile: | Atom is such a shitty CPU |
| [23:20:31] | Clam: | yeah im not sure if the atom has enough horsepower for even just a frontend |
| [23:20:37] | croccydile: | No, its not. I tried |
| [23:21:00] | Clam: | well there goes that idea lolz. |
| [23:21:40] | croccydile: | Maybe the newer architecture with out of order execution would fix that, but Intel is known for having stupidity in their lineups like that |
| [23:21:46] | Clam: | im thinking i will just switch out the boards *again* and add all the cards i need to. |
| [23:22:10] | croccydile: | My haswell (i5–4670) with just the cpu, ram and SSD consumed idle LESS than the old Atom system did |
| [23:22:21] | croccydile: | And is of course, about litterally 50x faster |
| [23:22:24] | Clam: | 1.6ghz dual core atom* correction. |
| [23:22:58] | croccydile: | Like 20W total for haswell, 25W for the Atom system |
| [23:23:13] | Clam: | *shrugs* i care less about power consumption |
| [23:23:27] | croccydile: | Oh... I do ^^; |
| [23:23:50] | Clam: | well everyone has different agendas |
| [23:23:55] | Clam: | i just want my stuff to work. |
| [23:24:01] | Clam: | reliably without fail. |
| [23:24:18] | Clam: | and windows media center sucks. |
| [23:24:26] | Clam: | their remote learning is a joke. |
| [23:24:50] | croccydile: | I do recall it being a large source of pain because of how closed it felt |
| [23:24:56] | Clam: | and preferrably with a pretty interface that the girlfriend will love. |
| [23:25:08] | croccydile: | Especially when they moved to the .wtv format. "Oh hi we recorded your shows in a format that NOTHING currently can work with" |
| [23:25:55] | Clam: | so far the gf likes the mythbuntu frontend |
| [23:26:06] | Clam: | she says "its prettier than wmc" |
| [23:26:15] | croccydile: | I dont use the frontend because its not reliable here |
| [23:26:29] | croccydile: | I just watch the stuff over the lan using mythlink to give the shows useful names |
| [23:26:33] | Clam: | well thats a necessity for me. |
| [23:26:42] | croccydile: | At least live tv almost never works here |
| [23:26:46] | Clam: | whats not reliable in it. |
| [23:26:52] | Clam: | oh well that wont work then |
| [23:27:01] | croccydile: | Always some stupid error I cant remember the name of it |
| [23:27:19] | croccydile: | Not like it matters... if I want to watch live tv I have the... TV |
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| [23:27:48] | Clam: | mythlink. hmm i shall google this witchcraft. |
| [23:28:04] | croccydile: | It just makes symlinks to the existing shows somewhere using the actual names and titles |
| [23:28:19] | croccydile: | So that on a different PC you can see the list and go "Oh ill watch this" |
| [23:28:48] | Clam: | i thought mythbuntu had a guide |
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| [23:30:55] | Clam: | hmm interesting |
| [23:31:07] | Clam: | well from what im reading |
| [23:31:09] | ** croccydile is still here, just waiting on his server to copy files ** | |
| [23:31:24] | Clam: | the firewire card should work |
| [23:31:36] | Clam: | im just wondering if mythbuntu can detect the card and such. |
| [23:31:43] | croccydile: | Trying to add another 3TB to the machine, however it has to be cleared up first |
| [23:31:58] | croccydile: | Unless its kernel was compiled by steve ballmer, it should |
| [23:32:00] | Clam: | understandable |
| [23:32:20] | Clam: | adding to a raid? |
| [23:32:32] | croccydile: | No, I dont like raid |
| [23:34:18] | Clam: | understandable |
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| [23:34:40] | croccydile: | I used to have it, but it was just a source of too much hassle |
| [23:34:53] | Clam: | im guessing resynch hell? |
| [23:35:22] | croccydile: | Well that is what would worry me yes, even back when I did use it... it took half a day to do so |
| [23:35:37] | croccydile: | That and "RAID IS NOT A BACKUP" which is a correct statement |
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| [23:36:20] | Clam: | very true |
| [23:36:25] | croccydile: | If you want to backup... blu-ray discs or mirror on a 2nd portable disk |
| [23:36:27] | Clam: | redundancy != backup |
| [23:36:38] | croccydile: | Yes, RAID is *high availability* |
| [23:36:53] | Clam: | well im half tempted to start this project |
| [23:37:07] | Clam: | other part of me is going...naw, it can wait. gta V is waiting for me |
| [23:37:13] | croccydile: | Oh no not that |
| [23:37:23] | croccydile: | GTA is seriously overrated to me |
| [23:37:38] | Clam: | *shrugs* its fun. |
| [23:37:47] | Clam: | but i do agree it is overrated. |
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| [23:37:51] | croccydile: | Not after IV to me |
| [23:37:56] | Clam: | overhyped and so on. |
| [23:37:58] | croccydile: | "HEY NIKO WANT TO GO BOWLING?!?!?!" |
| [23:38:02] | Clam: | roflmao |
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| [23:38:03] | croccydile: | That killed the game for me |
| [23:38:20] | Clam: | i think they made that part obnoxious on purpose |
| [23:38:33] | Clam: | so far it seems alright |
| [23:38:46] | croccydile: | Well if they did it on purpose, they did it all wrong :p |
| [23:38:50] | Clam: | but i just booted it up to see if the image worked. |
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| [23:39:39] | Clam: | but thats another can of worms anyways |
| [23:40:07] | Clam: | well croccy it was nice chatting with you and you really helped me figure out what i plan to do with my mythtv setup |
| [23:40:27] | Clam: | thanks and i wish the best for you on your tv media transfer. |
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| [23:40:35] | croccydile: | Its ok, just time consuming |
| [23:40:40] | croccydile: | Gah he left |
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| [23:50:07] | bill6502: | johanbr: Try, for example: mythutil --getskiplist --chanid 4691 --starttime 20130923200000 --quiet (returns: Commercial Skip List: 13522–16235,42459–45171,167003–169715,189860–192579) |
| [23:54:54] | johanbr: | bill6502: yes, that works... thank you! |
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