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Thursday, September 19th, 2013, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:31] croccydile: Ooooh... that seems to have been it
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[00:06:24] croccydile: 2013-09–18 20:02:35.308581 E AFD: Unknown audio decoding error
[00:06:26] croccydile: 2013-09–18 20:02:35.308621 E decoding error
[00:06:28] croccydile: :c
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[00:13:36] croccydile: Hrm it seems to be generating a cutlist anyways, ill just modify the script then to not care about mythcommflag throwing an error
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[00:34:43] croccydile: Seems to have been successful :3
[00:34:46] croccydile: Now I just need a way to uhhh... batch queue a job
[00:43:56] Hydr0p0nX: :)
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[00:48:46] ** croccydile isnt sure how to do that :/ **
[00:49:34] croccydile: I have too many recordings I want to commecial cut ><
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[00:58:09] biffhero: croccydile: does it hurt to commercial cut a recording that has already been commercial cut? a for loop with wget should do the job.
[00:58:19] biffhero: I'm still trying to figure out the POST to submit a recording.
[01:00:44] croccydile: What do you mean by for loop with wget
[01:01:15] croccydile: I imagine it might... :/
[01:06:53] biffhero: do the command to get a list of recordings, and then for every one of them, submit them to the commflag queue.
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[01:08:54] biffhero: I'm working on a shell script right now to do some recordings, but there's no way it will be ready tonight.
[01:15:48] Hydr0p0nX: or
[01:16:10] Hydr0p0nX: just run this query : select chanid, starttime, endtime, commflagged,cutlist, title, subtitle from recorded where commflagged = '0';
[01:18:19] Hydr0p0nX: dump the output to a file
[01:19:06] Hydr0p0nX: $chan = cut -d'|' -f1 $outfile , etc...
[01:20:11] Hydr0p0nX: now you know what's been flagged, can submit the rest for commercial detection, no worries of duplicating effort
[01:22:36] biffhero: yeah, that's the ticket!
[01:22:42] biffhero: can you submit via the web API?
[01:23:37] croccydile: Oh ummm... errrr...
[01:23:42] ** croccydile might just make a keyboard macro **
[01:23:52] biffhero: I don't see anything in there for that.
[01:24:10] biffhero: I don't see anything in the web API docs in .26 that says you can submit a job for recording.
[01:24:36] biffhero: croccydile: can you re-cut a recording that's already a recording?
[01:24:55] croccydile: Well teh script I used was off the wiki
[01:25:15] croccydile: It just forces commflag to run again to make sure there is a flagging list, then makes a cutlist and then does lossless mpeg2 cut
[01:25:51] biffhero: oh, you rock. I wouldn't do the lossless mpeg2 cut until I'd hand checked the recordings.
[01:26:12] biffhero: At least some of them. The only one that I know will cause problems are NFL games.
[01:26:34] biffhero: The Touchdown – comm – PAT – comm – kickoff – comm is too quick.
[01:27:07] croccydile: Well I know but I'm just doing it to shows I dont care too much about if they go wrong
[01:27:11] croccydile: Like american pickers :p
[01:28:14] biffhero: sure
[01:28:40] croccydile: I want to commercial remove them and then h264 them
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[01:29:06] biffhero: good idea. will they stay in the recordings list? I should have a job that does that for anything that's over 60 days old.
[01:29:07] gremlyn: hi, not sure if I need to ask here, but I have an HDHR Prime I'm trying set up channels on, and I have them all scanned in, but am seemingly unable to figure out how to easily reconcile 'channel number' it has listed with the actual expect channel numbers
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[01:29:45] jxself: In reading the 0.27 announcement, what is the difference between "end of life" and "end of support"?
[01:30:43] jxself: I can't seem to find anything on mythtv.org about how these two different statuses are defined.
[01:31:42] croccydile: biffhero: Well my 2TB drive is like 90% full and I have a bunch of recordings that id like to shrink down... yeah they stay there it updates the db
[01:31:59] biffhero: croccydile: That would be an awesome alternative to auto-expire.
[01:32:17] biffhero: "If you have some auto-expire coming up, go ahead and start compressing"
[01:32:22] croccydile: Well I have a ton of recordings so I may just use my G16 to macro queuing up the jobs
[01:48:45] gremlyn: in cablecard mode with an hdhomerun prime, will mythtv only show me the channels accessible by mythtv? in other words, will it not show me any channels that have copy protection?
[01:49:49] biffhero: gremlyn: I don't know anything about the prime + cablecard.
[01:50:23] jxself: I have such a device.
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[01:50:29] jxself: I see every single channel.
[01:50:50] gremlyn: the prime + cable card are up and running seeming as it should be (watched stuff through other sources), so I'm pretty sure set up stuff coms down to myth specific, but yeah, would need someone familiar with such devices to help :)
[01:51:02] gremlyn: you see all the channels regardless of whether you can access them
[01:51:06] gremlyn: so then why do I not...
[01:51:49] gremlyn: I have schedules direct setup with all the channels, and I'm retrieving the listing
[01:52:16] jxself: Woot.
[01:52:20] gremlyn: though shouldn't the cable card give me the channels?
[01:53:19] gremlyn: jxself, did you scan your channels in? I tried that and only get the clear qam ids, which isn't helpful in determining the actual channels
[01:54:24] jxself: Nope, I just entered my schedules direct info & voilà
[01:54:36] gremlyn: hrm
[01:54:53] jxself: It magically knew what was what, which was great.
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[01:55:23] gremlyn: maybe I'll delete the schedules direct lineup and try again
[01:55:26] jxself: Along with the usual mythfilldatabase to get the programming
[01:55:35] gremlyn: I did 'edit' the lineu from my old non-cablecarb hdhr
[01:56:11] jxself: Ah. I wonder if a new one would work?
[01:56:25] jxself: Mine was a brand new installation.
[01:59:45] Hydr0p0nX: I had the same experience w/ my ceton
[02:01:17] gremlyn: same as who
[02:01:20] Hydr0p0nX: mine "just worked", at least, once I got the right person at charter
[02:01:33] gremlyn: well the cable card aspect works fine
[02:01:42] gremlyn: I can watch channels through my PS3 over DLNA
[02:02:07] gremlyn: my schedules direct lineup doesn't download either, I wonder if that doesn't help...
[02:02:21] gremlyn: well, it will eventually, but I have to try it a few times
[02:02:47] Hydr0p0nX: why's it fail ?
[02:03:04] gremlyn: doesn't say
[02:03:17] gremlyn: brings up the 'retrieving lineup' with the progress bar
[02:03:26] gremlyn: and then doesn't show me a lineup
[02:12:47] gremlyn: grr, it's only giving me a small set of channels
[02:14:16] gremlyn: anyone tell me where the logs are I need to check to see what's going on?
[02:17:14] gremlyn: nm, found them in the obvious place
[02:19:41] gremlyn: ok, so when I try to retrieve lineups and it 'fails' by doing nothing, the logs show nothing as well
[02:25:07] gremlyn: well maybe my problem was that I was running mythtv 0.25 without updates
[02:25:14] Hydr0p0nX: could be
[02:25:15] gremlyn: upgrading 0.26 with updates
[02:25:25] gremlyn: thought I had already changed that eons ago
[02:27:07] gremlyn: and of course stuff fails to install properly
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[02:41:21] ** croccydile hrms and does eix-sync :p **
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[03:19:26] gremlyn: ok, I am giving up for the night
[03:19:58] gremlyn: a complete re-install of mythtv 0.26 (fresh db and everything), and I'm still not getting the right channels from schedules direct
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[03:24:44] hipitihop_: anyone here familiar with lxc and know if there is a way to limit the number of cores for a container ?
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[04:36:15] Zenther: Hello, I need some help where to look. I am getting 0 byte recordings. 2250 card, arch linux, saving to /mnt/DataDrive/MythTV/LiveTV (NTFS).
[04:36:48] [R]: what does the backend log say
[04:38:46] Zenther: The /var/log/mythtv/ directory is empty.
[04:39:45] [R]: that seems unfortunate
[04:40:30] Zenther: I agree, don't know why it would be empty
[04:43:01] Zenther: My fstab line for mythtv drive: UUID=7EE34D96395A99E0 /mnt/DataDrive ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF8,rw,x-gvfs-show 0 2
[04:43:53] Zenther: does that look about right? The banners, user art, etc is all working fine with that.
[04:44:18] [R]: it means nothing
[04:44:24] [R]: you have to read the output from the backend
[04:46:13] Zenther: Will it show up in the terminal if I start the frontend there and have it try to record a show?
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[04:48:13] [R]: the output fro mteh frontend will show there
[04:48:17] [R]: which is the not the output from the backend...
[04:49:51] Zenther: ok, how about I open a terminal kill mythbackend and then run mythbackend & and watch the window?
[04:50:23] [R]: that sounds like an idea
[04:50:31] [R]: although why you would put it in the background
[04:50:32] [R]: is beyond me
[04:51:26] Zenther: OK, gotta wait till it stops scanning my music directory then I will check that out. Thanks.
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[08:59:24] caelor: I think the development aim is to migrate mythweb-like functionality into the backend
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[15:32:29] IReboot: Would someone look at this pastebin (http://pastebin.com/2iqLnbHs). With a freshly recompiled v0.27 I get errors when trying to record using a HDPVR (firmware 1.7.1.30059). I have been on v0.27 for a few weeks and it worked.
[15:32:30] IReboot: Stopped working yesterday. Any help would be appreciated. Recording using cat works fine.
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[15:46:26] lautriv: IReboot, *cough* /dev/(video0 is analog, do you really want to use that ?
[15:48:15] IReboot: lautriv: That has been what the HDPVR has been recording HD STB input on since MythTV v0.22 what had you expected it to use?
[15:49:08] lautriv: IReboot, these days, i assumed anything but north-africa is digital.
[15:51:07] IReboot: lautriv: The STB is connected to the HDPVR through component connections with optical audio. I can record any channel a grand example of the "analogue hole"
[15:52:52] lautriv: IReboot, however, i'd suggest to reload kernel-modules (including firmware then) and if that fails again, stop backend and use any other program to check the functionality of /dev/video0
[15:56:17] IReboot: lautriv: Thanks. The only other Linux program to check is v4l2-ctl and "cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg". I did not try using v4l2-ctl yet as it seems that MythTV was using that successfully.
[15:58:22] IReboot: lautriv: Just rechecked the wiki and something it suggested was simply changing the USB port. That I did not try yet.
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[16:18:46] lautriv: IReboot, had to play daddytaxi in the meantime, does it work now ?
[16:21:34] IReboot: lautriv: Changed the USB port but made no difference. Recording by using "cat" works but not with MythTV. v4l2-ctl --all displays the device info fine but then cannot "cat" record again until the the hdpvr is power cycled. I really do not need this happening:(
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[16:43:51] jpabq: IReboot: All of your cables are in good shape? For example, if the audio cable is bad or loose it can cause such problems. Also check to make sure your STB is outputting what you expect video and audio wise. If the HD-PVR does not like what it is being fed, it can get really upset, and that is when you have to power-cycle it.
[16:44:26] trumee_: is it possible to play an ogg/icecast stream in mythradio?
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[16:47:00] jpabq: trumee: I don't use mythmusic/mythradio, so I can't say for sure. However, when I was creating my theme, I believe I came across that, so believe the answer is yes.
[16:47:02] trumee: the release notes seems to suggest that icecast streams are supported, but my system refuses to play it.
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[16:48:02] trumee: jpabq: this is what i tried, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/553330
[16:48:50] jpabq: localhos ? Not localhost ?
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[17:22:07] trumee: jpabq: yeah, that was a typo
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[20:26:38] croccydile: apparently the composite video input on the hdpvr is actually... quite good
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[20:30:03] biffhero: croccydile: That's good to hear. I'm thinking about upgrading our STB to one with a Cablecard. Because I thought that I couldn't record from many of the upgrade channels, I decided that there would be no benefit to me to do that.
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[20:30:44] croccydile: I was having a lot of issues with s-video and my svhs vcr for saving some of my old tapes... the audio was de-syncing quite badly after a while I imagine due to glitches in the tapes
[20:31:00] croccydile: I read one suggestion to try the composite input somewhere instead, and its working much better so far
[20:31:21] croccydile: and... much to my surprise side by side s-video and composite look about the same
[20:32:15] DonkeyHotei: biffhero: a cablecard cannot be removed from a STB
[20:32:52] croccydile: some crap to do with missing fields in interlaced output... the hdpvr pukes on s-video if its missing too many fields
[20:33:17] biffhero: DonkeyHotei: I meant "upgrade my cable service." I wouldn't be using the rental STB, I'd be using a box from silicondust.
[20:33:33] croccydile: also, the hdpvr does correct IRE levels as well... including "super black" and "super white"
[20:33:41] biffhero: That's nice.
[20:33:56] croccydile: Yeah the PVR-150 does not, among other cards ive tried in teh past
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[20:34:53] croccydile: Here https://www.dropbox.com/s/ikhaiuchm7cxttk/cap . . . 3_190631.png
[20:36:25] croccydile: I wonder if it has an internal TBC as well
[20:36:37] biffhero: That's nice looking output.
[20:37:04] croccydile: For a consumer device yes. The only other device to do that sort of accuracy is the intensity pro
[20:37:09] croccydile: At least that ive tried
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[20:38:58] croccydile: Im guessing is that hauppauge figures most would use the hdpvr and composite in for recording tapes, as most people wouldnt have a svhs player
[20:40:04] biffhero: that's a good idea with the vhs capture. I have some home movies to transfer.
[20:40:26] croccydile: Yeah it doesnt clip the audio either (at least it seems to be ok)
[20:40:50] croccydile: My JVC set to hi-fi audio out goes right up to 0db on hi-fi tapes (without needing to do audio_boost=1)
[20:41:09] croccydile: Measured the SNR to about 70dB too
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[20:46:36] croccydile: biffhero: I have... too many
[20:47:05] biffhero: I can heartily recomment George Thomas' "Smoke and Solder" segment of the Hamnation podcasts.
[20:48:27] biffhero: *recommend
[20:48:31] croccydile: The reason why I'm guessing it must have a TBC or something is uhhh... *ahem* macrovision tapes work fine
[20:48:47] biffhero: What is a TBC?
[20:48:53] croccydile: time base corrector
[20:51:24] croccydile: normally to fix problems with tapes, but also has the convenient aspect of allowing you to record commercial cassette
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