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| [00:11:58] | Hydr0p0nX: | using htdigest |
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| [00:13:53] | Hydr0p0nX: | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/programs/htpasswd.html |
| [00:14:04] | __raven: | tnx |
| [00:15:28] | Hydr0p0nX: | basically, something like htpasswd /path/to/.htpasswd <user> |
| [00:15:39] | Hydr0p0nX: | will prompt to provide the new password for <user> |
| [00:20:14] | wagnerrp: | __raven: mythweb doesn't have a password |
| [00:20:55] | wagnerrp: | any password that may be in place must be provided by your web server, as described by Hydr0p0nX |
| [00:21:52] | __raven: | Hydr0p0nX, i edited the mythweb apache conf and created a new auth file but it does not take effect after restarting the services |
| [00:26:06] | Hydr0p0nX: | __raven, which services were restarted? |
| [00:26:56] | Hydr0p0nX: | wagnerrp, does a 3disk RAID 5 or storage groups work better for storage ? it's all being used by myth |
| [00:27:37] | wagnerrp: | is it only being used by myth? |
| [00:28:14] | Hydr0p0nX: | yes |
| [00:28:21] | wagnerrp: | must it be redundant? |
| [00:28:45] | Hydr0p0nX: | they are new(ish) drives |
| [00:29:01] | Hydr0p0nX: | if one is lost, what's the impact on myth ? |
| [00:29:03] | wagnerrp: | if you need redundancy, i would get a fourth and run two independent RAID1 mirrors |
| [00:29:13] | wagnerrp: | if one is lost, there is no impact on mythtv |
| [00:29:31] | wagnerrp: | mythtv just continues recording on the remaining disks, and those recordings will need to be manually flushed out at some point |
| [00:29:58] | wagnerrp: | you would of course lose all the data on that disk |
| [00:30:30] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea |
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| [00:31:15] | wagnerrp: | RAID5/6 is really only recommended if you're never writing, or are only doing sequential writes |
| [00:31:45] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, there are some serious performance issues |
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| [00:34:42] | Hydr0p0nX: | is there anything to be aware of for configuring the storage groups ? |
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| [00:34:54] | wagnerrp: | don't record to the root of a partition |
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| [00:35:14] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will attempt to record to a path defined in a storage group as long as that path exists |
| [00:35:41] | wagnerrp: | if you tell it to record to the root of a partition, and that partition does not get mounted for whatever reason, it will attempt to record to the underlying filesystem |
| [00:36:33] | raven_: | Hydr0p0nX, i restartet mythtv-backend and apache2 |
| [00:36:48] | Hydr0p0nX: | raven_, you should only need to restart apache |
| [00:37:27] | wagnerrp: | actually, i don't think you even need to restart apache for htpasswd changes to take effect |
| [00:38:22] | Hydr0p0nX: | oh yea, you only need to restart apache on initial setup for htauth |
| [00:39:24] | Hydr0p0nX: | raven_, what is happening? still using the old password or not prompting for one ? |
| [00:40:55] | raven_: | its still using the old passwd |
| [00:41:34] | Hydr0p0nX: | then you're not updating the correct password file |
| [00:41:59] | raven_: | i think so |
| [00:43:12] | Hydr0p0nX: | the httpd.conf file contains the path |
| [00:48:38] | raven_: | ok done |
| [00:48:45] | raven_: | there were two conf files |
| [00:49:53] | Hydr0p0nX: | work as expected now ? |
| [00:50:00] | raven_: | yes tnx |
| [00:50:48] | skd5aner: | what does "--enable-pic" do in the config script? |
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| [00:59:06] | wagnerrp: | nothing anyone should be messing with |
| [00:59:17] | wagnerrp: | it's some kind of CPU instruction optimization |
| [00:59:38] | wagnerrp: | do we actually list it as an available option in configure? |
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| [01:03:44] | Hydr0p0nX: | from what I can find, it appears to be related to some x264 encoding library |
| [01:03:55] | Hydr0p0nX: | at least, ffmpeg uses the same flag for the purpose |
| [01:07:19] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: yup... as of 0.27 |
| [01:07:25] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I hadn't noticed it before |
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| [01:21:08] | skd5aner: | sphery:you happen to be around? |
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| [01:23:09] | skd5aner: | mythconverg_backup.pl isn't parsing config.xml properly :/ |
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| [01:25:13] | wagnerrp: | i thought sphery wrote a new version that handled the new config.xml format |
| [01:25:28] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: well, maybe that's the problem... |
| [01:25:46] | skd5aner: | I'm trying to run the latest version of the script prior to upgrading from 0.26 |
| [01:26:04] | skd5aner: | it might not handle the format of 0.26 if it's trying to account for a format only specific to 0.27? |
| [01:26:52] | skd5aner: | yup – that appears to be the issue... |
| [01:27:01] | skd5aner: | I ran the version that shipped with 0.26, and it works just fine |
| [01:27:16] | skd5aner: | sphery: ^ |
| [01:27:23] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: should I submit a bug report? |
| [01:27:55] | wagnerrp: | might want to see what sphery's take is |
| [01:28:09] | wagnerrp: | i wrote capability into the Python bindings to be able to handle both versions |
| [01:28:18] | wagnerrp: | i was under the impression sphery did the same for that script |
| [01:28:40] | skd5aner: | It fails to grab the database info, including username, databasename, host, etc |
| [01:38:11] | skd5aner: | sphery: #11830 submitted |
| [01:38:11] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11830 ** | |
| [01:40:13] | Hydr0p0nX: | think imma go with the storage groups option |
| [01:40:46] | skd5aner: | I would |
| [02:00:45] | skd5aner: | hmmm, first sign after upgrade – not good |
| [02:00:57] | skd5aner: | tried to playback a recording an we're on 45 seconds of "Please Wait..." |
| [02:02:22] | skd5aner: | ah, test #2, failed too... |
| [02:02:22] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2 ** | |
| [02:02:25] | skd5aner: | not boding well |
| [02:05:27] | skd5aner: | f(*#$(*)(*@#$ |
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| [02:12:31] | guest1127: | I'm using mythtv 0.25 (mythbuntu 12.04), and am having problems with a new station that just got added... I use schedules direct, and added the channel to my line-up. The station shows up in my listings, and plays, but is showing HEAVY digital static (pauses every couple of seconds, "blocky" artifacts on the screen, and a "buzz" once or twice a second... is there anything I need to do after adding a new station to get it to |
| [02:12:47] | Hydr0p0nX: | xfs still recommended for storage drives? |
| [02:12:49] | guest1127: | all the rest of my stations come through reliably, with no noise or artifacts |
| [02:14:51] | skd5aner: | This is what I'm seeing: 2013-09–07 22:11:15.373134 E [2305/2458] Decoder mythplayer.cpp:3319 (DecoderGetFrame) – Player(0): Decoder timed out waiting for free video buffers. |
| [02:16:11] | guest1127: | for what its worth, the station in question is FXX, my cable company is Verizon FIOS (USA), and my "playback data" shows that its 720p@59.94 fps, MPEG-2 ffmpeg, and my A=V sync is jumping all over (+- 4). The "frames decoded/free is also jumping all over the place. |
| [02:16:50] | skd5aner: | guest1127: what kind of recording device are you using on that channel? |
| [02:16:56] | skd5aner: | cablecard? |
| [02:17:07] | skd5aner: | Hydr0p0nX: I use XFS still |
| [02:17:31] | guest1127: | skd5aner: I have a HD homerun prime (3-tuner) with a cablecard |
| [02:17:56] | skd5aner: | guest1127: I think you can use the windows based tools and/or the web interface of the HDHR prime to see if the signal is strong |
| [02:18:43] | skd5aner: | it'd be unusual for it to be an issue with mythtv – most likely it's the signal, your HDHR-Prime, a SDV issue, or something hardware related |
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| [02:19:48] | guest1127: | I'm seeing a lock at 80% signal strength (-12 dBmV), and 46% signal quality (27.4 dB) with 85% symbol quality |
| [02:19:56] | guest1127: | is that too low to get a good picture / audio? |
| [02:20:05] | skd5aner: | Signal quality sounds very low |
| [02:20:13] | skd5aner: | what about your other channels |
| [02:21:37] | guest1127: | let me flip through and look |
| [02:23:43] | skd5aner: | here's my logs, wondering why playback doesn't work after upgrade: http://pastebin.com/gGrVzLiH |
| [02:24:13] | guest1127: | yeah, I'm near 100% on other channels... is it possible myth has set the tuner to the "wrong sub-channel" (clearly I don't know what I'm talking about :)), does this sound like a problem with my wiring/splitters not being able to handle the specific frequency FXX is on? |
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| [02:25:15] | skd5aner: | guest1127: doubtful... with cablecard, all myth cares about is the channel numbers |
| [02:25:29] | skd5aner: | One thing I'd do... go power cycle my HDHR |
| [02:27:46] | Hydr0p0nX: | yep |
| [02:28:42] | Hydr0p0nX: | if you haven't power cycled it (and the TA, if you have one) after receiving a new channel, it'd be a good idea to |
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| [02:30:07] | guest1127: | I'll give that a shot |
| [02:31:41] | guest1127: | skd5aner: probably should have been the first thing I tried... that worked! |
| [02:31:51] | guest1127: | thanks... you're awesome :) |
| [02:31:55] | skd5aner: | I wish all fixes were that easy... haha |
| [02:32:13] | skd5aner: | meanwhile – MythTV won't play any video for me now after upgrading tonight :( |
| [02:32:27] | guest1127: | ...and now I feel stupid :) |
| [02:32:58] | guest1127: | now to set the set the last couple days to attempt to re-record :) |
| [02:34:43] | guest1127: | is there a way to flag a recording to re-record without deleting it |
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| [03:16:58] | Hydr0p0nX: | k |
| [03:17:11] | Hydr0p0nX: | time to reboot and verify new partitions mount :) |
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| [04:33:28] | biffhero: | I have an HDHomeRun which is mostly working. However, there are two HD channels which won't record. So odd. |
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| [04:34:23] | biffhero: | The two tuners which are in the HDHomeRun both work properly, I am able to record four streams at one time. |
| [04:34:32] | wagnerrp: | can you access them with the official quicktv client? |
| [04:34:58] | biffhero: | Good question. I haven't tried that yet. I'll go do that. |
| [04:35:26] | wagnerrp: | are these broadcast or digital cable channels? |
| [04:35:54] | biffhero: | I'm not sure how to answer that question, even though it should be simple. |
| [04:36:04] | wagnerrp: | antenna or cable? |
| [04:36:08] | biffhero: | I plugged it in to the cable coax... |
| [04:36:10] | biffhero: | But... |
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| [04:36:14] | biffhero: | I don't use a cable card. |
| [04:36:22] | wagnerrp: | is this a regular or prime HDHR? |
| [04:36:25] | [R]: | that's what she said |
| [04:37:30] | biffhero: | Model: HDHR3-US |
| [04:38:21] | wagnerrp: | oh root, why can't you access NFS shares... |
| [04:40:34] | biffhero: | hdhomerun dual |
| [04:40:38] | biffhero: | http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/atsc/ |
| [04:40:48] | wagnerrp: | is it possible those channels are encrypted? |
| [04:41:42] | biffhero: | Hrm. They didn't used to be. They are local network channels. That's a good point. |
| [04:42:05] | wagnerrp: | the FCC removed the mandate that local channels be transmitted unencrypted |
| [04:42:09] | biffhero: | I'm going to go through the hdhomerun-config-gui right now and see what channels it finds. |
| [04:42:10] | biffhero: | oh. |
| [04:42:18] | wagnerrp: | but testing with quicktv should determine one way or another |
| [04:42:27] | biffhero: | OK, I'll look for quicktv |
| [04:42:31] | wagnerrp: | if it can view the channels, so should mythtv |
| [04:42:44] | wagnerrp: | quicktv is silicondust's own viewing application (at least for windows) |
| [04:44:08] | biffhero: | Oh, ok, that's why I can't find it. I'll have to go find a windows computer. |
| [04:44:42] | wagnerrp: | they should have something to use on linux |
| [04:44:51] | wagnerrp: | although it may be a simple proxy to pump video through VLC |
| [04:45:01] | wagnerrp: | that's how it used to be done on windows |
| [04:45:17] | biffhero: | yeah, the config_gui uses vlc. I have a windows laptop now I stole from my kid |
| [04:45:51] | wagnerrp: | note that mythtv does not play nice with other HDHR clients |
| [04:46:11] | wagnerrp: | there's a locking mechanism that tells HDHR clients that a tuner is in use, and mythtv both ignores it and does not set it |
| [04:46:21] | biffhero: | I have mythtv-setup running right now, so my backend is down. |
| [04:46:32] | wagnerrp: | so if you attempt to access an HDHR directly when mythtv is using recording off it, there will be problems |
| [04:46:45] | biffhero: | ok. I'm not recording |
| [04:47:09] | wagnerrp: | basically, the problem is just that the other application "steals" the tuner, and mythtv stops receiving any data |
| [04:47:21] | biffhero: | Interesting. I hit "scan" on the setup gui on osx, and sometimes the program dropdown has something there. |
| [04:49:39] | biffhero: | OK, the scan on windows is going now. I'm seeing the channels fly by on the OSX config-gui |
| [04:51:29] | biffhero: | I found it here. http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_w . . . neup_9850539 |
| [04:53:11] | biffhero: | The "Channel" column says 12–3, while the "Virtual" says 11.1. The other one which is having problems is "Channel" = 12–4, with "Virtual" of 11.2 |
| [04:53:26] | biffhero: | I wonder if that's my problem. It was moved to 12–3 and 12–4. |
| [04:55:47] | biffhero: | I'm confused. Where's the mapping from 2.1 − 44–3 held? |
| [04:55:56] | biffhero: | OK, the scan is done. I'll see what I can see. |
| [04:56:13] | DonkeyHotei: | 94043? |
| [04:56:33] | wagnerrp: | zip code |
| [04:56:40] | DonkeyHotei: | i know that 94044 is pacifica, but where is 94043? |
| [04:56:40] | biffhero: | 95053. That's also comcast. |
| [04:56:58] | wagnerrp: | looks like Mountain View |
| [04:57:57] | biffhero: | Hrm. |
| [04:58:04] | biffhero: | Yeah, it's Mountain View. |
| [04:58:20] | biffhero: | http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_w . . . neup_9882355 shows my 11.1 as KNTVDT mapped to 79–1 |
| [04:58:45] | biffhero: | quicktv is audio only, no picture. |
| [05:00:29] | biffhero: | forums say firewall. I *love* windows 8 |
| [05:01:03] | wagnerrp: | it's MPEG TS |
| [05:01:08] | wagnerrp: | audio and video are the same stream |
| [05:01:14] | wagnerrp: | if you can't get video, you're not going to get audio either |
| [05:01:41] | biffhero: | OK. So audio only and no video wouldn't be a firewall problem. |
| [05:01:49] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [05:02:03] | biffhero: | how about "no mpeg decoder" ? |
| [05:02:21] | wagnerrp: | that _could_ do it, but Win8 should come with one |
| [05:04:02] | biffhero: | https://www.silicondust.com/forum2/viewtopic. . . . &t=14111 page 1, look for this post. by https://www.silicondust.com/forum2/memberlist . . . e&u=7249 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:16 pm |
| [05:05:19] | wagnerrp: | well i do have ffmpeg installed, but i know my version of windows 7 shipped with mpeg2 and ac3 decoders |
| [05:06:54] | wagnerrp: | i really should have gotten a microhdmi cable so i could see what this thing was doing |
| [05:08:58] | wagnerrp: | in order to boot off the microsd card, i'm supposed to plug it in while holding the "user/boot" button |
| [05:09:13] | wagnerrp: | there's a power button, and a reset button, and some other nameless button that i can only assume is the "user/boot" button |
| [05:09:43] | Hydr0: | is it normal for mythweb to only show 2 drives allocated as storage groups ? |
| [05:10:07] | wagnerrp: | are the drives empty? |
| [05:10:29] | Hydr0: | they have directory structures on them |
| [05:10:38] | wagnerrp: | but no files? |
| [05:10:42] | Hydr0: | 1 has files |
| [05:10:47] | Hydr0: | the other 2 don't yet |
| [05:10:59] | Hydr0: | or they were just created |
| [05:11:08] | wagnerrp: | then the two that don't have the same amount of total and free space, within a few MB of fuzzing range |
| [05:11:24] | wagnerrp: | mythtv thinks they're the same partition, defined in two separate locations |
| [05:11:47] | wagnerrp: | it will treat them as such until you actually record something to them, making those values change, and distinguishing them as separate partitions |
| [05:12:26] | Hydr0: | they are /myth_storage/a, /b, and /c |
| [05:12:56] | Hydr0: | ah |
| [05:13:04] | Hydr0: | it does alternate between the /b and /c |
| [05:13:25] | wagnerrp: | it behaves according to the disk scheduler |
| [05:13:40] | wagnerrp: | which i think allocates recordings according to free space |
| [05:13:44] | Hydr0: | ahhh |
| [05:13:45] | Hydr0: | cool |
| [05:13:53] | Hydr0: | it just start showing all three |
| [05:14:02] | Hydr0: | and total space is correct |
| [05:14:16] | Hydr0: | thanks |
| [05:15:04] | Hydr0: | I like this ceton better than the old hvr-1600 i had |
| [05:16:15] | wagnerrp: | it's a completely different type of tuner |
| [05:16:41] | wagnerrp: | you wouldn't choose one over the other. your content source would choose for you |
| [05:17:22] | Hydr0: | i fought with the hvr for far to long before swapping cards out |
| [05:17:33] | Hydr0: | the problem i had with it was it sometimes worked |
| [05:18:47] | Hydr0: | could be due to changes in the cable system |
| [05:21:17] | wagnerrp: | there we go, now it's doing something |
| [05:26:39] | biffhero: | OK, I found them with the hdhomerun quicktv |
| [05:28:17] | biffhero: | I think their channel map changed. |
| [05:29:05] | biffhero: | In the HDHomeRun Install Wizard, they say "15–1, 15–2, 15–6", corresponding to Guide Number 11.1, 11.2, 65.1 |
| [05:29:54] | wagnerrp: | ATSC stations use virtual numbering independent of their physical location |
| [05:30:29] | wagnerrp: | you probably used to have a local analog channel 11 that was simulcasting digital on channel 15 |
| [05:30:32] | biffhero: | So there's got to be a linking somewhere, right? |
| [05:30:59] | wagnerrp: | and just stayed on channel 15 when they shut down their analog transmitters, rather than bother getting the license shifted |
| [05:31:25] | biffhero: | probably |
| [05:31:27] | wagnerrp: | mythtv should set up those links automatically during the scan, just like the HDHR application did |
| [05:31:43] | DonkeyHotei: | iirc there is only one station on vhf here now, but i thought it was that one |
| [05:31:44] | biffhero: | but that scan only happened at the first setup, huh? |
| [05:32:01] | wagnerrp: | perform another "minimal updates" scan |
| [05:37:50] | biffhero: | does "minimal updates" exist on 0.25 ? |
| [05:37:56] | wagnerrp: | it should |
| [05:38:02] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure if that's the specific name |
| [05:38:50] | biffhero: | Full Scan, Import channels.conf, Import existing scan, Scan of all existing transports, Scan of single existing transport, |
| [05:39:08] | wagnerrp: | full |
| [05:39:20] | biffhero: | I can choose a smaller frequency table. |
| [05:39:29] | wagnerrp: | you don't want to |
| [05:39:42] | wagnerrp: | use the full us-cable table |
| [05:40:15] | biffhero: | I don't have that available in the Frequency Table field. |
| [05:40:55] | biffhero: | Cable, Cable HRC, Cable IRC, Broadcast, Cable High, Cable HRC High, Cable IRC High, |
| [05:41:08] | wagnerrp: | just 'cable' |
| [05:42:00] | biffhero: | Modulation: Terrestiral (8-VSB), Cable (QAM-256), Cable (QAM-128), Cable (QAM-64), |
| [05:42:05] | wagnerrp: | 256 |
| [05:42:36] | biffhero: | scanning begun |
| [05:43:20] | biffhero: | I am seeing changes in the HRHomeRun Config GUI, so I'm sure it is changing the channels on the HDHR. |
| [05:43:54] | biffhero: | some possible, some probable |
| [05:44:44] | biffhero: | If I call up Comcast and get a Cable Card, and get a CC ready box from silicon dust, is this what I do again to get all of the channels via that one? |
| [05:44:56] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [05:45:10] | wagnerrp: | if you are using a cablecard tuner, you just pull your schedules direct lineup |
| [05:45:20] | wagnerrp: | it's similar to using an analog tuner |
| [05:45:34] | biffhero: | even a cablecard from silicon dust? |
| [05:45:46] | wagnerrp: | you use the cable company's virtual channel mapping, and the tuner itself takes care of finding the correct digital channel |
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| [05:46:05] | biffhero: | http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/prime/ |
| [05:46:24] | biffhero: | So I just tell SD that I'm using that one, and it's all good. OK. |
| [05:46:36] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [05:46:56] | biffhero: | I just tell Schedules Direct that I am using that lineup, and I don't have to rescan. |
| [05:47:29] | wagnerrp: | correct. you would create a new video source for the cablecard tuner, and pull a lineup for it |
| [05:47:34] | wagnerrp: | you would not scan |
| [05:47:39] | biffhero: | ok |
| [05:47:49] | ** wagnerrp goes to bed ** | |
| [05:47:58] | biffhero: | night, thanks for the help |
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| [06:04:14] | biffhero: | found 15 old ATSC, and 32 new non-conflicting ATSC. |
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| [13:10:21] | __raven: | i have a huge mess with planning recordings: recordings are marked as planned but do not appear in the list, undeterministic behaviour of the webinterface, cannot delete marked recordings and replan it, planned serial recordings do only random entries........ any way to debug that? |
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| [15:37:44] | Hydr0p0nX: | morning |
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| [15:46:47] | Hydr0p0nX: | transcoding an HD recording is losing my audio streams |
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| [15:49:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | log at : http://pastebin.com/ZxWpFiHk |
| [15:58:12] | Hydr0p0nX: | I noticed a message about a bitrate being disallowed (although it's in the list), so i've changed it back to 32000 and will try again |
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| [16:55:05] | biffhero: | well, the rescan certainly changed things up, but didn't fix my problems. I'm still confused as to the entire mapping from schedules direct and HDHR scan through to the mythtv channel mapping and channel changing |
| [16:56:54] | Hydr0p0nX: | biffhero, are you using a cable card w/ your HDHR ? |
| [16:57:05] | biffhero: | no, no cable card. |
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| [16:58:13] | biffhero: | one regular PVR-250 and one HDHR. It _was_ 100% working months and months ago, and then two HDHR channels just up and stopped working. I left it, didn't care, didn't have time to look at it, the normal SD channel worked. Now I am trying to fix it, and last night wagnerrp helped me with a channel scan. |
| [16:58:34] | biffhero: | now I am trying live TV across the board to see what works and what doesn't. |
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| [16:59:09] | Hydr0p0nX: | ahhh |
| [16:59:33] | Hydr0p0nX: | not sure about it using it w/o a cable card |
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| [16:59:49] | Hydr0p0nX: | should be relatively straight forward though, i would think |
| [16:59:55] | biffhero: | yeah, wagnerrp said that if I had a cable card, I wouldn't have to get the channels from a scan. |
| [17:00:08] | Hydr0p0nX: | worth the $2/month ;) |
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| [17:00:29] | Hydr0p0nX: | i've been testing with my ceton for a few days now |
| [17:00:46] | biffhero: | what is a ceton? |
| [17:01:03] | Hydr0p0nX: | pci-express card, very similar to the HDHR otherwise though |
| [17:01:22] | Hydr0p0nX: | has 4 tuners addressed over a network interface |
| [17:01:31] | wagnerrp: | i should have gotten 36" cables... |
| [17:02:24] | biffhero: | looks like the hrhr prime from silicondust is 199. ceton looks like the same range |
| [17:02:30] | Hydr0p0nX: | yep |
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| [17:02:50] | Hydr0p0nX: | newegg had it for 189 last week, it was 194 when i looked yesterday |
| [17:03:12] | wagnerrp: | says $150 right now |
| [17:04:22] | biffhero: | Newegg is 150? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp . . . p;isNodeId=1 |
| [17:04:43] | wagnerrp: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815345006 |
| [17:05:26] | biffhero: | thanks. |
| [17:06:44] | wagnerrp: | i really should have cleaned my desk before attempting this |
| [17:07:36] | Hydr0p0nX: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815706001 <-- my card |
| [17:07:47] | Hydr0p0nX: | wagnerrp, what are you attempting ? |
| [17:08:14] | wagnerrp: | swapping the drives in my hotswap caddies |
| [17:09:12] | wagnerrp: | 9 drives out, 7 drives back in, and they're piling up on what little free space i have left on the desk |
| [17:09:21] | Hydr0p0nX: | know the feeling |
| [17:09:38] | Hydr0p0nX: | but, at least you didn't have to mod the raidcontroller firmware to support 2TB disks :) |
| [17:09:48] | biffhero: | yeah, piles everywhere. For me it's the triangle couch between the couch and the love seat. |
| [17:10:14] | wagnerrp: | i'm actually swapping the old raid controller for a dumb sas controller |
| [17:10:25] | wagnerrp: | i don't honestly know if the raid controller supported 2TB+ disks |
| [17:10:30] | wagnerrp: | the biggest i put in there was 2TB |
| [17:10:31] | Hydr0p0nX: | i have a bunch of <100gb drives |
| [17:10:45] | Hydr0p0nX: | yea, this on board controller didn't support 2TB |
| [17:10:56] | Hydr0p0nX: | old, xfx 8200m board |
| [17:11:22] | wagnerrp: | so not a raid controller, just a disk controller |
| [17:11:34] | Hydr0p0nX: | it's a fake raid controller |
| [17:11:44] | wagnerrp: | not even worth dealing with |
| [17:11:47] | Hydr0p0nX: | right |
| [17:11:56] | Hydr0p0nX: | just needed the ports |
| [17:12:31] | Hydr0p0nX: | i need to buy a replacement boot drive for myth |
| [17:12:43] | Hydr0p0nX: | it's sounding bad |
| [17:13:11] | wagnerrp: | i'm actually not sure what to do with mine in that regard |
| [17:13:36] | wagnerrp: | i need more storage on my boot drive, because i've got about 20 jails on there, and roots for half a dozen netboot machines |
| [17:13:59] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'm looking at just getting one of these : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148321 |
| [17:14:11] | Hydr0p0nX: | i'm running an old 160GB disk for it right now |
| [17:14:18] | wagnerrp: | but i can't decide whether to just go SSD, or mirror a pair of the 750s im currently pull and add a ARC/ZIL drive |
| [17:14:39] | Hydr0p0nX: | my only issue with ssd is i'm cheap |
| [17:15:39] | biffhero: | Is there a cli way to tell myth to tune a tuner to a specific channel? |
| [17:15:41] | wagnerrp: | i'm using ZFS, so L2ARC basically uses an SSD as an extended memory cache, and ZIL functions like battery-backed memory on a hardware RAID card |
| [17:16:00] | Hydr0p0nX: | nice |
| [17:16:26] | wagnerrp: | so basically, it produces one of those "hybrid" drives, but with much more flexibility |
| [17:16:55] | biffhero: | ZFS, what OS? |
| [17:17:00] | wagnerrp: | fbsd |
| [17:17:20] | biffhero: | myth on fbsd? |
| [17:17:25] | wagnerrp: | backend, yes |
| [17:19:16] | wagnerrp: | http://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/builders/master-freebsd-64bit |
| [17:19:42] | jya: | wagnerrp: How do you do with the DVB capture card on FreeBSD? |
| [17:19:54] | jya: | Would fbsd works as frontend with vdpau? |
| [17:20:15] | wagnerrp: | in theory, vdpau should work. nvidia added support in the freebsd drivers a few years back |
| [17:20:26] | wagnerrp: | although IIRC, i had to manually disable it in configure |
| [17:20:34] | wagnerrp: | as for DVB, i dont. i use an HDHR |
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| [17:21:15] | jya: | Yeah, I saw that last time I installed nvidia drivers on a FreeBSD box |
| [17:22:03] | wagnerrp: | there's a 'webcamd' project that emulates the linux USB driver API, allowing you to use USB tuners with linux drivers |
| [17:22:06] | jya: | I actually wouldn't mind using fbsd as backend... Wouldn't feel the need to fiddle things all the time like I do with linux... Plus upgrades always break something which is annoying as |
| [17:22:19] | wagnerrp: | there's a user, Oleg i think, who tried to get it working |
| [17:22:25] | wagnerrp: | not sure if he was ever successful |
| [17:23:16] | jya: | Ah.. So PCIe adapters would be unlikely to work |
| [17:23:40] | wagnerrp: | would have to port the drivers over individually |
| [17:23:55] | wagnerrp: | where with USB, they can run an interpreter in userland |
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| [17:24:07] | wagnerrp: | !seen decke |
| [17:24:07] | MythLogBot: | decke was last seen 339 days 20 hours 26 minutes 3 seconds ago |
| [17:24:20] | wagnerrp: | i think he's fiddled with webcamd as well |
| [17:24:35] | wagnerrp: | but he hasn't been around in a long while |
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| [17:28:56] | Hydr0p0nX: | know what "normal" growth is for the mythdb by chance? |
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| [17:40:27] | wagnerrp: | so... when adding hardware to a live system, try not to short out your molex connectors |
| [17:40:39] | Hydr0p0nX: | that sounds bad |
| [17:41:00] | StevenR: | that sounds like "how to make your live system power itself down" |
| [17:41:21] | wagnerrp: | i've got two lines going into each of these hotswap backplanes |
| [17:41:36] | wagnerrp: | one was plugged in, i must have gotten the other one misaligned and pushed |
| [17:41:51] | wagnerrp: | shorting the 12V to neutral or something\ |
| [17:41:59] | StevenR: | psu shutdown? |
| [17:42:12] | wagnerrp: | yeah, just a self-protection fault. no harm done |
| [17:42:18] | ** StevenR nods ** | |
| [17:42:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | lucky :) |
| [17:43:20] | Hydr0p0nX: | bestbuy actually has a drive for the same price as newegg |
| [17:43:35] | Hydr0p0nX: | is this a sign of the end times ? |
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| [19:11:43] | wagnerrp: | MySpoonIsTooBig: so who is the banana? |
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| [19:28:54] | MySpoonIsTooBig: | wagnerrp: on my phone, the wifi hotspot tethering SSID is "My spoon is too big" and the wpa key is "I am a banana!" |
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| [19:29:15] | MySpoonIsTooBig: | i've had this nick registered for some time |
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| [20:47:08] | dashs: | Which table/column to set starting channel for Live TV? |
| [20:50:56] | wagnerrp: | go into mythtv-setup, and change it there |
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| [21:27:32] | Korny: | Why must ATI drivers be so horrible when it comes to video quality :/ |
| [21:29:49] | [R]: | you talking about fglrx or radeon? |
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| [21:33:53] | Korny: | both open source and fglrx |
| [21:34:14] | Korny: | I was trying to use an AMD onchip video card |
| [21:34:14] | [R]: | well fglrx is closes source crap |
| [21:34:23] | [R]: | and radeon, depending on the card, might not be based on full specs |
| [21:34:34] | Korny: | I just threw a gt520 in, all fixed |
| [21:34:48] | Korny: | or as they are known now.... gt610 lol |
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| [21:35:39] | Korny: | I use my backend for my bedroom TV, intel drivers with high quality opengl preset look nice |
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| [21:39:10] | wagnerrp: | i don't even think intel does their own linux graphics drivers |
| [21:39:17] | wagnerrp: | i think they farm that out to a third party |
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| [23:40:47] | skd5aner: | random X11 question... if I SSH in to a frontend, how can I launch something in X on the display attached to that frontend via an SSH session? |
| [23:40:55] | skd5aner: | I used to know, but haven't done that in a long time... |
| [23:41:14] | skd5aner: | and my google-fu is failing me becuse all I can find is stuff related to forwarding, which I don't want |
| [23:41:18] | Hydr0p0nX: | have to enable xforwarding in ssh daemon |
| [23:41:41] | Hydr0p0nX: | there's a setting on the client side that goes with it |
| [23:42:44] | Hydr0p0nX: | in putty, it's under Connection ->SSH -> X11 |
| [23:42:45] | DonkeyHotei: | AFAIK it simply isn't possible |
| [23:43:02] | Hydr0p0nX: | oh |
| [23:43:04] | Hydr0p0nX: | i misread |
| [23:43:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | you want it launched and running on the remote xsession |
| [23:43:26] | wagnerrp: | set your 'DISPLAY' variable, and you're done |
| [23:43:33] | wagnerrp: | assuming your user has rights to that X server |
| [23:43:59] | wagnerrp: | i.e. 'export DISPLAY=:0.0; xterm;' |
| [23:45:38] | skd5aner: | k, thanks... that worked |
| [23:45:49] | skd5aner: | I found an article via google that gave me the wrong syntax |
| [23:45:59] | skd5aner: | then, found one that gave me the same thing you said wagnerp, thanks |
| [23:48:49] | wagnerrp: | did they give you 'DISPLAY=:0.0 ...', or 'setenv DISPLAY :0.0; ...'? |
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| [23:50:10] | wagnerrp: | define "storage server" |
| [23:50:20] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: |
| [23:50:32] | mattwj2002: | I was just talking about a storage server |
| [23:50:33] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [23:50:49] | wagnerrp: | yes. that's why i asked you to define what you meant |
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| [23:51:03] | mattwj2002: | oh |
| [23:51:55] | mattwj2002: | well something like this http://item.ebay.com/331013684552 |
| [23:52:25] | mattwj2002: | something you can put like 8 drives in |
| [23:52:34] | wagnerrp: | certainly not something like that, since that takes 2.5" drives |
| [23:52:43] | mattwj2002: | oh yeah |
| [23:53:01] | wagnerrp: | it's also a power hungry Conroe Xeon with FB-DIMMs |
| [23:53:50] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: it would be great to get a server like with at least 4 drives 3.5 inch not 2.5 inch |
| [23:53:53] | wagnerrp: | do you actually want hotswap storage, or just something that can hold a lot of hard drives? |
| [23:54:06] | wagnerrp: | do you actually want a rackmount? |
| [23:54:06] | mattwj2002: | I don't need hotswap |
| [23:54:17] | mattwj2002: | don't need rackmount |
| [23:54:42] | mattwj2002: | I just want something cheap that will hold a lot of drives and can be a mythtv backend |
| [23:54:43] | mattwj2002: | :) |
| [23:55:18] | mattwj2002: | wagnerrp: do you have any suggestions? |
| [23:56:22] | wagnerrp: | just about any old tower will hold at least 4 drives |
| [23:57:11] | Hydr0p0nX: | yep |
| [23:57:29] | Hydr0p0nX: | worst case, need a few 5.25 -> 3.5 adapters |
| [23:57:42] | wagnerrp: | maybe... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146078 |
| [23:57:57] | wagnerrp: | don't get single-drive adapters |
| [23:58:03] | wagnerrp: | at least get cages that hold several and a fan |
| [23:59:37] | wagnerrp: | if you want a whole lot of drives, check out some of the lian li V2000 derivatives |
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