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| [02:34:12] | davez0r: | you guys ever used the mythfilldatabase --dd-file option |
| [02:34:28] | davez0r: | ? |
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| [03:50:35] | DonkeyHotei: | i'm using xbmc as a frontend, and it makes a distinction between "tv" channels and "radio" channels. how do i segregate them in the lineup? |
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| [11:51:04] | k-man: | i'm having difficulty getting lirc to see my remote |
| [11:51:26] | k-man: | irrecord detects keys being pressed, but i get nothing when i start lircd and irw |
| [12:17:46] | jya: | permission issue? |
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| [13:17:05] | raven_: | hi |
| [13:17:25] | raven_: | how to display channel names instead of numbers when selecting via arrow up/down? |
| [13:40:23] | jya: | raven_: that depends on the theme you use... |
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| [13:45:32] | raven_: | jya, ok tnx |
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| [13:59:36] | raven_: | recordings database seems broken – webfrontend lists items which are already deleted again and again |
| [13:59:46] | raven_: | how to "reset" that? |
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| [15:50:50] | raven_: | recordings database seems broken – webfrontend lists items which are already deleted again and again |
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| [18:26:47] | DonkeyHotei: | i'm using xbmc as a frontend, and it makes a distinction between "tv" channels and "radio" channels. how do i segregate them in the lineup? |
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| [19:28:48] | davez0r: | can someone show me an example of mythfilldatabase --dd-file usage? I'm trying to figure out what other args I'm missing |
| [19:32:29] | sphery: | davez0r: no other args required... why do you think it's not working? |
| [19:32:37] | sphery: | er... oh |
| [19:32:41] | sphery: | you said --dd-file |
| [19:32:54] | davez0r: | yeah, actually maybe this is not a dd-file |
| [19:32:54] | sphery: | why not let it pull the data using: mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all |
| [19:33:05] | sphery: | is it Schedules Direct? |
| [19:33:43] | davez0r: | it is SD, yes. so normally i do just pull incrementals, but I've got a second backend I want to play with and only grab data once |
| [19:34:12] | sphery: | really using --dd-grab-all is much better than pulling incrementals (for you and for SD/TMS) |
| [19:34:22] | sphery: | so might want to consider that on your main box |
| [19:34:52] | davez0r: | oh ok |
| [19:35:23] | sphery: | see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/449426#449426 and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 49416#449416 for more |
| [19:35:48] | sphery: | for playing with the second backend, are you going to need to run mythfilldatabase multiple times with the same data? |
| [19:36:19] | sphery: | if not, just do a --dd-grab-all on it... not too big a deal doing that on 2 systems for a while when testing out a new version or whatever |
| [19:36:52] | sphery: | or if you want to be able to go "back" to some pre-messing-around state, could consider doing a DB backup/restore approach (that's what I use on my development box) |
| [19:37:05] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore + http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . ing_database |
| [19:37:20] | sphery: | otherwise, we can try to figure out -dd-file |
| [19:37:22] | davez0r: | yeah, I did consider cloning the db for schedules |
| [19:37:35] | davez0r: | it's just the "program" table right? |
| [19:37:40] | sphery: | but to use --dd-file, you'd need to use xmltv's tv_grab_na to get the "raw" data |
| [19:38:03] | davez0r: | yeah, so I grabbed it with tv_grab_na_dd --dd-data ~/somefile.xml |
| [19:38:11] | sphery: | program table is listings (but, really, there's more than just program table involved--to get people and credits and ... bunches more) |
| [19:38:20] | davez0r: | ahh |
| [19:38:36] | davez0r: | well let's go grabber route for a sec |
| [19:38:44] | davez0r: | tv_grab_na_dd --dd-data makes me a file |
| [19:38:50] | sphery: | the full backup/restore is the best approach for restoring to a particular state |
| [19:39:55] | sphery: | but, yeah, mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all sounds like it should be the easiest approach for you (and, really, even if you do --dd-grab-all two times per day every day, it's about the same work as doing an incremental (without --dd-grab-all) pull once per day ) |
| [19:40:52] | sphery: | so if you can switch your main box to use --dd-grab-all, and especially if you don't need to run mythfilldatabase daily on the testing box, it will not be a waste of SD/TMS resources |
| [19:41:25] | davez0r: | oh nice, well I'm not really sure if it's doing incrementals. from the logs it looked that way, but it's doing whatever the mythbuntu default is |
| [19:43:00] | sphery: | yeah, that's the mythfilldatabase default because too many people have severely underpowered systems where --dd-grab-all could cause problems |
| [19:43:10] | sphery: | so probably is doing "normal"/incremental runs |
| [19:43:39] | sphery: | those links I gave you will recommend testing a run on your system, then help you configure your system to do that always if you think the performance is good enough |
| [19:45:06] | sphery: | basically, though, if it seems to take "way too long", you don't want to use it (i.e. if it's 45 minutes to run with --dd-grab-all, don't use it normally because --dd-grab-all replaces even "today's" data--meaning you have no listings during part of that run, which will break scheduling for a while--whereas a normal run only gets tomorrow and +13 (and other days near the end that don't seem to have full data)) |
| [19:45:32] | davez0r: | i see |
| [19:46:01] | sphery: | note, though, that even on a 45-minute run, it may only be a few minutes without listings for today, so you'll have to decide what you're comfortable with |
| [19:46:41] | sphery: | the problem only occurs if you have no data for today at a time when mythbackend is supposed to start a new recording--otherwise, no problems |
| [19:47:01] | davez0r: | well, I really want to just fetch once, then have this other box load from a cached file. tv_grab_na_dd --dd-data ~/somefile.xml gets me my data, then I want to use mythfilldatabase --dd-file to load onto the second machine |
| [19:47:24] | sphery: | so, it's hard to say how long is dangerous (because it depends on your recording rules, time mythfilldatabase gets run, and how long it takes) |
| [19:47:53] | sphery: | you can do that |
| [19:48:16] | sphery: | just requires figuring out the right args (which I don't know because I don't use --dd-file) |
| [19:48:27] | davez0r: | ahh, so we're in the same boat :) |
| [19:48:30] | sphery: | but I think you have to give --dd-file and some kind of --file somefile or something |
| [19:48:38] | davez0r: | yeah |
| [19:48:43] | sphery: | not just dd-file |
| [19:48:51] | davez0r: | ok good to know maybe that's it |
| [19:50:31] | sphery: | The --dd-file option must be used in combination with each of --sourceid, --offset, --lineupid, and --xmlfile. |
| [19:50:57] | sphery: | should be printed in the log/console if you don't provide all of those |
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| [20:10:40] | davez0r: | yeah, so I'm trying to figure out what those should be. sourceid is just 0 if I only have one source configured right? lineupid should be in the dd-file |
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| [20:17:15] | sphery: | davez0r: sourceid is probably 0 if you only have one source configured (unless you previously configured a source and deleted it by hitting D, rather than doing a Delete all video sources) |
| [20:17:28] | sphery: | davez0r: and, yeah, I'd guess lineupid would be in the dd file |
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| [20:51:10] | davez0r: | sphery: that did the trick. and apparently SchedulesDirect takes your timezone/daylight time into account so the offset is 0000 already |
| [20:51:17] | davez0r: | thanks for the help |
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| [21:14:25] | sphery: | davez0r: offset is actually "Specify how many days offset from today is the information in the given XML file." , meaning you tell it "this is tomorrow's data" or whatever, but 0 is fine if it starts with today :) |
| [21:14:50] | sphery: | not sure why that would be required... I'd think it would just use the times in the file to figure it out |
| [21:16:24] | davez0r: | oh really. so if I grabbed one of these incrementals and set the offset to 0, it might use it as "today's data" rather than today + 13 |
| [21:18:14] | davez0r: | yeah it's strange that an offset is required since every program in this XML has a timestamp |
| [21:19:42] | davez0r: | oh, and the timestamps look like this: '2013-09–14T22:00:00Z' I assume that Z means Zulu/UTC |
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| [22:21:56] | Hydr0p0nX: | ended up ordering the ceton card |
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| [22:31:19] | DonkeyHotei: | i have one of those |
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| [22:32:09] | DonkeyHotei: | you need to update its hardware and firmware under windows |
| [22:32:34] | DonkeyHotei: | comcast needs the beta firmware |
| [22:32:53] | DonkeyHotei: | do this before inserting the cablecard |
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| [23:22:05] | DonkeyHotei: | Hydr0p0nX: i did that using virtualbox |
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