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Thursday, August 29th, 2013, 00:03 UTC
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[00:55:13] runelind: sphery: OK, thanks!
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[01:15:12] Hydroponx: i'm trying to upgrade to 0.26 and get this http://pastebin.com/wBnUsHGS when simulating, basically, 14 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded.
[01:16:41] Hydroponx: packages kept back include mythtv-backend (but, mythtv-backend-master is updated)
[01:22:43] Hydroponx: anyone have any ideas on why this would happen?
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[05:37:30] k-man: cool, one of my bug reports from over 3 years ago got closed
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[14:03:33] mythnewb: anyone here using a HD Homerun Prime with FIOS?
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[14:28:56] runelind: 0.26.1 is not building on FreeBSD 9.1 – http://pastie.org/8280320
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[14:38:09] sphery: runelind: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/540855#540855
[14:39:19] runelind: so it's an old header file apparently, any ideas how to fix it?
[14:39:23] runelind: ;p
[14:39:26] sphery: specifically, your previously-installed MythTV stuff is gettin gin the way
[14:40:16] runelind: so I should make deinstall the old myth stuff and then reinstall?
[14:40:21] sphery: so delete the dvdnav directory under your mythtv include directory
[14:40:29] sphery: or that
[14:42:20] runelind: I just did a make clean and am trying again, if that doesn't work I'll delete the dvdnav stuff
[14:42:26] runelind: and if that doesn't work I'll uninstall and reinstall
[14:42:28] runelind: sphery: thanks :)
[14:42:53] sphery: might want to do make distclean
[14:42:58] sphery: does a better clean
[14:43:04] sphery: but needs a reconfigure
[14:43:17] sphery: note that it's different from make uninstall
[14:43:44] sphery: and make uninstall isn't meant to work unless you use the make uninstall /before/ doing a git pull
[14:43:58] sphery: (i.e. same version of the repo as you installed)
[14:45:36] runelind: well fwiw it seems to make it a lot further this time.
[15:03:19] runelind: hrm, well onto deleting the dvdnav dir and making distclean
[15:17:39] runelind: good thing I have a hex core CPU ;p
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[15:41:14] runelind: bah, still isn't building
[15:41:54] runelind: removed /usr/local/include/mythtv/dvdnav and tried rebuilding, but it didn't make a difference.
[15:50:23] runelind: sphery: what's the next step, uninstalling 0.26 and reinstalling? Will I have to reconfigure my myth setup at that point?
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[16:29:33] runelind: a deinstall and reinstall worked fine.
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[16:35:41] sphery: runelind: glad that worked... it's never a bad idea to do that approach, anyway, as it will get rid of old stuff that isn't part of mythtv, anymore, too
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[18:28:25] ihave0certs: I finally have xbmc and mythtv working together!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:28:32] ihave0certs: YES!
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[20:20:57] sphery: FWIW, 3TB Toshiba HDD at newegg for $104.99 as part of their ShellShocker deal that just started 20min ago: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149408
[20:21:15] sphery: that's equivalent to a 2TB for $69.99
[20:21:26] sphery: (basically $35/TB)
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[20:52:31] runelind: not a bad deal.
[20:52:55] runelind: I'm out of space in my case, need to get a bigger enclosure.
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[20:58:40] sphery: I've got 13.75TB total in my system, now, and am having a hard time justifying it--though I figure if I don't buy it one of my HDDs will fail and force me to buy a non-sale drive, instead
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[22:49:30] sphery: wagnerrp: in #11796 which was reported as a bug due to http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /352571.html ), it's talking about directories with "Show Directory Structure" enabled (and, AFAIK, we don't have metadata for the directories containing the videos, which have metadata), so it would probably require a custom comparator that breaks apart the strings into alpha and numeric portions, right?
[22:49:30] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11796 **
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[23:12:40] justinh: har. my sister is talking about sacking satellite pay TV & replacing it with a 2nd hand Apple TV 2nd gen with XBMC installed. Yeah good luck getting all your content 'free' with that
[23:17:29] DonkeyHotei: ok, i put the ceton card in, but http://192.168.200.2 does not respond. any ideas?
[23:20:16] DonkeyHotei: oh, it's .1; nvm
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[23:43:47] Hydr0p0nX: anyone around ?
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[23:50:12] bill6502: sphery: — is used to separate args that start with -. e.g echo stuff > -z; ls -l — -z; cat — -z; rm — -z; ls -l — -z Maybe it doesn't work in all shells.
[23:51:32] sphery: bill6502: I'm pretty sure that's functionality built in to application command-line parsers (and not provided by any shell--like we had to build it in for mythfilldatabase), but still, we're not using any shell for running those commands
[23:52:20] bill6502: ic
[23:52:39] sphery: if someone wanted to build that functionality into the parser used by ttvdb.py, I'm sure we could adapt the call to use it, but I think wagnerrp is right that it's just plain bad data (no subtitle should start with -)
[23:54:02] Hydr0p0nX: i hate my tuner card =/
[23:54:11] sphery: I may be wrong, though... it might be using a shell and passing a string command line, but since I don't see any quotes (even around the title, etc., which needs to be grouped to be passed as a single string in a shell call), I don't think we are there
[23:54:15] Hydr0p0nX: anyone recommend a decent one ?
[23:54:57] sphery: Hydr0p0nX: which one works will depend on where in the world you are (and, therefore, what tv format you're using)--and possibly which service provider/source
[23:55:38] sphery: my recommendation, though, would be "anything that's not USB or firewire or a dumb framegrabber"
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[23:56:12] sphery: meaning either a pci/pcie encoder card or digital capture card or a network-attached capture device like the HDHomeRun
[23:56:16] Hydr0p0nX: i have a hrv-1600 pci
[23:56:27] sphery: that's one I'd say is a good one
[23:56:40] sphery: it's digital capture or analog encoder and it's on a reliable bus
[23:56:53] sphery: (assuming HVR-1600 :)
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[23:57:03] Hydr0p0nX: yes :)
[23:57:13] Hydr0p0nX: i've been able to make it work once ..
[23:57:18] Hydr0p0nX: picture was terrible though
[23:57:43] sphery: I have the 2250, which is the 2-tuner version of the 1600 (but in pcie) and I love it
[23:58:04] sphery: well, if you're using the digital side of it, you get what your provider gives you
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[23:58:27] sphery: if you're using the analog side of it, you have to use a good input, and then you'll get a "really bad" picture quality, instead of terrible
[23:58:35] sphery: (because NTSC always means really bad quality)
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[23:58:43] Hydr0p0nX: awesome !
[23:58:47] sphery: use S-Video, ideally, for analog capture
[23:58:59] Hydr0p0nX: i'm running the cable line in to both coax ins
[23:59:01] sphery: never, ever, use RF modulated output from a tuner
[23:59:27] sphery: or, yeah, you can use cable or antenna (though there's not much broadcast analog in North America, anymore) in
[23:59:40] Hydr0p0nX: but,according to the cable company, i have excellent signal quality
[23:59:41] sphery: but NTSC is terrible quality
[23:59:52] Hydr0p0nX: had 3 or 4 techs tell me that at least
[23:59:54] sphery: it's not the signal, it's the 65-year-old format
[23:59:59] Hydr0p0nX: oh i know

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