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Tuesday, August 27th, 2013, 00:01 UTC
[00:01:52] knightr: bill6502, the file can also be named mythtv_dd_cache_%1_%2_UTC_%3_to_%4 where %1 is replaced by the listing provider, %2 is the user id, %3 is the start date and %4 is the end date. The file is stored in put in the /tmp directory...
[00:02:06] knightr: AFAICT...
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[00:56:37] mattwj2002: hi guys
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[15:21:32] joltman: yeah, running the --dd-grab-all wiped all my channel info after 13 days. It's been 1.5 days since I created a new lineup on SD. In that time, "Fetch Listing" has updated with the correct name in Myth-Setup. But after I ran the --dd-grab-all yesterday, I've lost all my scheduling info. My sub to SD isn't set to expire until October. Today, to fix the missing data, I've also tried --do-channel-updates. That did not work either. What can I
[15:34:19] sphery: joltman: fwiw, --do-channel-updates is a bad thing to do (it actually says, "change things around (in what could be unexpected ways) in my channels even if doing so isn't safe"
[15:34:49] joltman: hmm. So I should try another --dd-grab-all ?
[15:35:00] sphery: joltman: I have no idea what's misconfigured, so because of that, I'd recommend clearing out the existing configuration and reconfiguring from scratch (as who knows what --do-channel-updates and such could have broken in the config)
[15:35:13] sphery: so mythtv-setup, Video Sources, Delete all video sources
[15:35:18] joltman: ok
[15:35:20] joltman: i'll give it a go
[15:35:22] joltman: thx!
[15:35:45] sphery: then re-create your video source, re-connect inputs, re-scan for channels (assuming scannable source, or "Fetch channels..." if using an external tuner)
[15:36:01] sphery: then set starting channel and run mythfilldatabase --dd-grab-all
[15:36:13] sphery: and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 for more info
[15:36:33] joltman: so I was actually scanning for channels, and not "Fetch" and I'm using an HDHR
[15:36:49] joltman: then manually mapping the channels found to the correct XMLTVID from SD
[15:36:49] sphery: usually it's easier to just start from a blank configuration than to figure out what's wrong with a configuration and how to fix it
[15:36:54] joltman: is that not the right procedure?
[15:37:06] sphery: HDHR as ATSC or QAM tuner or HDHR Prime (there's a huge difference)
[15:37:11] joltman: QAM
[15:37:19] sphery: then, yeah, you must scan and can't use Fetch
[15:37:39] joltman: sweet, that's what i thought, just wanted to make sure I wasn't incorrect. I'll try right now. Thanks!
[15:38:24] sphery: good luck
[15:38:46] sphery: the hardest part with the approach is making sure you don't make the same configuration mistake the second time :(
[15:39:06] joltman: I won't force any mythfilldatabase
[15:39:13] joltman: i'll let myth do it by itself
[15:39:24] joltman: but, i'll have to sit down again and remap channels...that wasn't fun
[15:39:30] joltman: over an hour
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[20:20:31] lautriv: hey there ;) there is an option i saw long ago for "always stream from backend" since i have sometimes issues with live-tv, maybe there is an alternative ?
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[20:36:34] CaptainHookZero: Tried submitting a message to the mailing list, but it hasn't come through.
[20:36:35] CaptainHookZero: Any ideas?
[20:36:41] CaptainHookZero: I did receive a confirmation email
[20:36:49] CaptainHookZero: It's been about 26 hours or so
[20:36:58] CaptainHookZero: and I am receiving messages from the list
[20:37:00] CaptainHookZero: all except mine
[20:40:02] sphery: CaptainHookZero: gmail?
[20:40:19] sphery: if so, Google has decide you don't need to see messages you send until/unless someone replies to them
[20:40:37] sphery: search for any posts from your e-mail address: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/engine? . . . ;list=mythtv
[20:40:58] sphery: "Only show posts made by"
[20:41:55] jheizer: I haven't seen it come through either. Been helping him off list/irc.
[20:42:25] jheizer: I wasn't sure if there was an approval on first email sicne it has been so long since I joined.
[20:45:27] sphery: no, once you subscribe to the lits, you can send to it
[20:45:30] sphery: no approvals
[20:45:51] ** jheizer looks at Capt... User error. **
[20:46:12] sphery: if it's a too-long e-mail (forgot the length limit, but it's not huge), it will send you a message saying it's "waiting for moderation", but there's no moderation, so it means it won't go through
[20:46:27] sphery: what should the mail be about?
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[20:46:52] jheizer: Prime recordings having random corruption in the recorded file
[20:47:56] CaptainHookZero: ahh yes, it was really long
[20:47:58] sphery: ah, haven't seen that one come through, either :)
[20:47:59] jheizer: I am at a loss on what could be causing it myself.
[20:48:04] CaptainHookZero: and yes, i twas Gmail
[20:48:14] CaptainHookZero: did get a response saying "waiting for moderation"
[20:48:20] sphery: probably got "moderated" (to /dev/null) due to size, then
[20:48:40] jheizer: ahh ok
[20:48:44] jheizer: makes sense
[20:48:44] sphery: so, resend, and if you have long logs or whatever, put them on pastebin.com , instead, with a link in the e-mail
[20:48:57] CaptainHookZero: no longs, I'm just long-winded
[20:49:02] CaptainHookZero: logs*
[20:49:22] sphery: well, I'm pretty long winded, too (ask anyone on the list), but my novels tend to go through
[20:49:35] sphery: I think the limit is well over 64kB
[20:49:42] sphery: maybe even 500kB or something
[20:49:47] CaptainHookZero: I guess it would be bad form to link to the thread I have on Silicon Dust's forum...
[20:50:02] CaptainHookZero: Oh, lemme check on the size
[20:50:08] sphery: if it's an "open" forum (doesn't require registration or anything), it's not too bad
[20:50:29] sphery: though you should at least include a brief summary in your e-mail to try to get people interested enough to click the link
[20:50:56] CaptainHookZero: Hmm, it actually isn't that long on second glance
[20:51:00] sphery: and don't use a url shortener (tinyurl or whatever)--because no one in their right mind is going to trust clicking on a link that goes to who knows where
[20:51:06] jheizer: oh, did you try to attach the sample image? that may have done it
[20:51:15] CaptainHookZero: No, no attachment
[20:51:26] sphery: oh, wait, in this new 'net 4.0 world, people do that all the time on twit/fb/...
[20:51:27] CaptainHookZero: just a link to a hosting site with the image
[20:51:48] sphery: still, I'd recommend the actual link and not a shortened link
[20:51:51] jheizer: Credit Card Number plz?
[20:51:56] sphery: hehe
[20:52:26] jheizer: resend with the top half of you silicon post
[20:52:27] CaptainHookZero: I'll text it to ya at 4 a.m.
[20:52:29] CaptainHookZero: Your time
[20:52:30] jheizer: and say .26 fixes
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[20:55:29] ebalsley: I'm trying to setup mythtv backend with an existing XAMPP installation on OS X (10.8), but it says MythTV could not connect to the database
[20:56:45] jheizer: Summary version of his issue: Random rare curruption of the vidoes recorded from a HDHR Prime w/ cable card on Comcast. Results in video like this http://s18.postimg.org/uq2tslkzt/Capture_zpsfb6e2c2a.jpg Confirmed it is the video file via VLC. Tried an amplifier but no help. On .26-fixes Independent recordings volume. ESXi guest
[20:57:24] jheizer: HDHomerun network test come back as ok. All other network transfers seem fine.
[20:57:37] lautriv: ebalsley, DB local ?
[20:58:08] ebalsley: I'm just using a single computer, if that's what you mean
[20:58:16] ebalsley: I followed the SQL setup part of http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Mac_OS_X
[20:58:34] lautriv: ebalsley, check logs, no idea about OSX
[20:59:12] ebalsley: yeah it seems to differ a lot from the linux tutorials I've seen. For example, there is no mythtv user account. And I'm not sure where the logs go if there is one
[21:00:33] lautriv: ebalsley, may be the first reason b/c msyql is used to login by user@machine.
[21:00:47] ebalsley: what do you mean?
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[21:01:16] lautriv: ebalsley, if you have not even a user named mythtv, who els may try to access the DB ?
[21:01:41] ebalsley: There is an SQL user name mythtv, but there is not a system user account for it
[21:03:16] lautriv: ebalsley, the backend will access the DB and has to be an registered user. if you haven't a user mythtv it is pointless to have a SQL account for mythtv.
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[21:06:24] sphery: CaptainHookZero: this time it went through :)
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[21:06:58] jheizer: Yup, I got it as well.
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[21:07:19] CaptainHookZero: I see it, thanks
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[21:23:50] ebalsley: On my existing XAMPP installation, the mysql.socket file is in an unusual place. Myth Backend setup is expecting it to be in /tmp. How can I tell it where the file is actually located?
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[21:37:40] DonkeyHotei: how does xbmc as a frontend compare to mythfrontend?
[21:38:18] CaptainHookZero: It's pretty clunky when trying to watch recordings in my experience
[21:38:24] CaptainHookZero: no comm skip
[21:38:32] CaptainHookZero: Interface is nice though
[21:38:33] CaptainHookZero: very nice
[21:38:46] CaptainHookZero: I did see a Live TV section as well
[21:39:08] CaptainHookZero: Seems much better suited to BR/DVD/downloaded video though
[21:40:20] DonkeyHotei: xbmc has no comm skip?
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[21:42:04] CaptainHookZero: I believe I've read that is supposed to be in the next release
[21:42:18] CaptainHookZero: I haven't looked again in a few months though
[21:43:28] DonkeyHotei: my experiences with the mythfrontend ui have been exclusively negative
[21:48:22] joltman: only when it comes to LiveTV
[21:48:28] joltman: and Music
[21:58:16] DonkeyHotei: joltman: what about setup?
[22:01:11] joltman: Convoluted, yeah. I hardly go in there more than once. Just to setup the HDMI and the audio config...music/video/pix locations
[22:01:19] joltman: it's not amazing, but once or twice, I can deal.
[22:01:30] joltman: LiveTV and Music are hard to nav
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[22:01:45] joltman: Music has been discussed at length. LiveTV is just buggy.
[22:02:00] DonkeyHotei: from what i've seen, xbmc doesn't have a setup like that; just point it to the backend and go
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