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Friday, August 23rd, 2013, 00:02 UTC
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[00:19:02] bill6502: skd5aner: I to add a simple program.title=... AND program.hdtv > 0 Custom Rule and now have *no* upcoming recordings in mythweb and the GUI says I haven't scheduled any recordings! (on my test box.)
[00:19:13] bill6502: But the backend hasn't crashed.
[00:19:31] skd5aner: nice...
[00:19:37] skd5aner: yea, same thing just happened to me, actually
[00:19:49] skd5aner: I restarted my mbe and sbe, and now my recordings show again
[00:20:00] sphery: bill6502: that means you have invalid sql so the scheduler query is crashing
[00:20:22] sphery: bill6502: in either that one (if deleting the rule makes it work again) or another custom rule
[00:20:44] bill6502: tnx, let me try to delete it brb
[00:22:21] sphery: btw, it's easy to get invalid sql in custom rules--the UI is very challenging to use
[00:23:30] skd5aner: sphery: I copied and pasted from the wiki and it caused mythweb to eventually time out (after 10 mins), run mysql at 100% on two cores, and effectively lock up my backend...
[00:23:43] skd5aner: took the syntax exactly from the example on the wiki, so...
[00:23:44] sphery: wow, that's a bad one
[00:23:49] sphery: which one?
[00:24:02] sphery: do you remember?
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[00:24:36] Blue1: I am getting no channels configured for the grabber when I run mythfilldatabase — what am I overlooking?
[00:24:50] skd5aner: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Custom_Recording#P . . . ms_to_record – everything from the second "AND" on
[00:25:19] bill6502: my sql (copied b4 I deleted the rule) was: program.title = 'Motive' AND program.hdtv > 0
[00:26:03] bill6502: the backend is using 71% cpu and mysql is using 51%. verrrry unusual for me
[00:28:03] sphery: skd5aner: that would be a much better rule if done with a join rather than a nested select
[00:28:16] sphery: but getting joins right in custom rules is a challenge
[00:28:33] sphery: (I won't even guess at how it should be without real testing)
[00:28:52] sphery: it's quite possible that--with the nested select--is just /way/ too much for your mysql to handle
[00:29:32] skd5aner: sphery: on a quad core with 4GB of RAM? I know it's not a high power machine by today's standards, but still...
[00:29:52] sphery: bill6502: yours seems pretty simple, and not sure why it would cause problems
[00:30:16] sphery: skd5aner: would likely be I/O rather than CPU limited
[00:30:38] sphery: especially since you have like a million Video Sources with a billion channels each :)
[00:31:31] bill6502: just stopped the BE, even a simple mythshutdown -c couldn;t connect to the BE http://pastebin.com/1gAapdUx
[00:31:49] sphery: is mysql still spinning?
[00:32:16] sphery: and do you have sufficient TMP space?
[00:32:21] sphery: for mysql
[00:32:45] sphery: bill6502: any reason you're not using a normal rule with an HDTV filter?
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[00:33:12] sphery: (not that it fixes/identifiers the issue that occurred, but seems you wouldn't need a custom rule for that)
[00:33:35] bill6502: no, I was just trying what skd5aner was doing, only with a very simple query
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[00:34:01] sphery: oh
[00:34:04] sphery: I see
[00:34:16] sphery: have you guys tried creating the rule in mythfrontend to see if it acts differently?
[00:34:25] skd5aner: bill6502: I just used the same simple one as you finally
[00:34:30] sphery: I know mythweb's custom/power rule support is, er, not the freshest
[00:35:35] bill6502: BE is back now as are my upcoming and scheduled programs. New rule for the release notes: Don't use Custom Recordings via mythweb?
[00:36:06] sphery: if it works via mythfrontend, that may be a good suggestion
[00:36:14] sphery: though figuring out what's broken would be best
[00:39:18] bill6502: Argh, when I 1st added the rule, it was only program.hdtv > 0, in othewords, something like 67529 shows. Something related to Keyboard and Brain...
[00:41:37] sphery: scheduling that would take a lot of resources :)
[00:44:17] bill6502: Just a tad. Repeated the test with program.title = 'Motive' AND program.hdtv > 0 and all is well.
[00:46:02] sphery: even through mythweb?
[00:46:05] sphery: if so, that's good news
[00:47:16] bill6502: right, only re-tested through mythweb
[00:47:31] sphery: perfect
[00:47:33] sphery: thanks for the testing'
[00:47:44] sphery: not sure what's wrong with the wiki one
[00:47:51] sphery: that skd5aner used
[00:49:49] bill6502: is there a missing AS in: FROM program program2, or is that an optional keyworw?
[00:53:41] sphery: I think it's optional
[00:54:35] sphery: yeah, optional: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/join.html
[00:54:47] sphery: under table_factor (of course)
[00:54:55] sphery: ;)
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[00:55:34] ** sphery is in awe of the guy who wrote that documentation for figuring out 200 different table_<something> names to use **
[00:56:13] sphery: thinking up names for identifiers in my programming is the biggest challenge in programming for me
[00:56:37] sphery: (well, not that actually making it work is easy--just that thinking up names is /very/ hard)
[01:02:38] bill6502: I give, the following works:
[01:02:40] bill6502: SELECT program.title from program WHERE title LIKE 'Motive%' AND program.category = 'Crime Drama' AND (program.hdtv > 0 OR program.programid NOT IN (SELECT program2.programid FROM program program2 WHERE program2.hdtv > 0 ));
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[02:24:46] squidly: how can I tell myth to try to start live tv on a specific channel?
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[02:41:27] justdave: squidly: there's a pref for that in the tuner setup
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[02:42:01] justdave: if you run mythtv-setup and edit your tuners, there's a pref (which defaults to "last used channel" I think) to set it to a specific channel every time it starts
[02:42:15] justdave: might be under the sources rather than the tuner, I forget which
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[02:44:45] squidly: justdave: that's what I thought as well. I'm having an issue with myth not opening up livetv
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[02:48:46] squidly: justdave: yea I keep having isses with the "Error opening jump file" on the frontend.. and a ringbuf error on the backend
[02:49:25] justdave: ahhh, I used to get that all the time
[02:49:49] justdave: it was a timing issue IIRC
[02:49:58] justdave: but I don't remember what the setting was that I poked to fix it
[02:50:17] justdave: had to make it wait longer after starting the stream before attempting to start playback or something
[02:50:33] justdave: (buffer more before begining playback)
[02:51:25] squidly: I have the signal timeout and the tuning timeout int he recorarder options.
[02:51:31] squidly: in the card setup.
[02:51:36] justdave: I think the problem is that it doesn't stream directly from the tuner to the frontend – it writes to disk from the tuner, then starts streaming from the file on disk.
[02:51:53] justdave: and the tuner would take longer to start writing to the file than it expected
[02:52:16] justdave: so then it would try to stream from the file that was still zero-length (or two short to effectively start playback) or something
[02:52:41] squidly: yea I'm wondering if that is the issue as wel
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[02:52:51] justdave: another symptom is if you watched across a program change boundary on the schedule it would choke on the program change (because it would start writing to a new file for the new program)
[02:53:40] squidly: I'm using an HDhomerun prime
[02:54:30] justdave: Hauppage HD-PVR and a dual-tuner PVR150 here
[02:54:54] justdave: I think the HD-PVR was fine if it was the first choice and the PVR150 is the one that was choking
[02:57:08] squidly: I'm wondering if I should update to 0.27
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[02:57:19] justdave: I'm still on 0.26
[02:57:48] justdave: Then again, I'm not using mythfrontend at all anymore. I actually also switched to using XBMC on the front ends, with the cmyth plugin to talk to the mythtv backend. It crashed less. :)
[02:58:17] squidly: I'm on 0.26
[02:58:21] squidly: I'm using the frontends as well
[02:59:16] squidly: actually I'm running the mythbuntu systems
[02:59:34] justdave: yeah, I was too
[02:59:51] squidly: I have it setup and working
[03:00:06] squidly: I'm not going to fuck with it. I just need to figure out this one issue
[03:03:12] justdave: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/9177 looks relevant
[03:04:02] justdave: fixed on trunk, no indication which branch that eventually became
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[03:08:38] justdave: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/536132 <- bet that's where you got the idea to set a specific channel
[03:08:45] justdave: sounds like a plausible solution
[03:10:12] squidly: that's part of where I got it.
[03:10:20] squidly: Myth keeps trying to open up channel 63
[03:10:23] squidly: and for some reason that wont work
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[03:25:55] squidly: yea that's not working..
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[03:41:41] DonkeyHotei: could this work with a ceton infinitv? http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/dvbhdhomerun/
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[04:36:17] Shadow__X: i am trying to use mythvidexport and it keeps failing returning this error http://pastebin.com/B3bPDAjN
[04:37:07] Shadow__X: i tried the command on line 9 and it gave me an error regarding --enable-dblog
[04:37:48] Shadow__X: i am using version 0.7.5 of mythvidexport
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[04:54:18] croccydile: Is there a way to not have livetv attempt to pretune
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[05:35:25] FLeiXiuS: Going from LiveTV -> Recording -> LiveTV causes myth vpdau to take a dum.
[05:35:26] FLeiXiuS: dump*
[05:37:51] FLeiXiuS: Is it me or do the latest NVIDIA drivers vpdau support blow.
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[08:34:37] gelberg: hi all, my housekeeping process doesn't seem to clean up my mythconverg.logging table which is around 600MB! how can i fix this?
[08:38:13] gelberg: okay, optimize_mythdb.pl fixed it
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[11:41:15] gelberg: hi all, i have a UK freeview / freesat setup. currently useonairguide is set to false, as i use xmltv grabber. but in practice is it a good idea to set useonairguide to true in case of last minute schedule updates? i just don't want my lovely xmltv data to get overwritten
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[12:23:50] dekarl-work: gelberg: no, you can not mix EIT/OnAirGuide with XMLTV data on one channel. The only thing that you can do is use EIT for some channels (e,.g. Radio) and XMLTV for others (e.g. TV)
[12:32:08] dekarl-work: fwiw, the upstream provider does update more often then every 24h for some time now. So once the grabber switches to the new api and someone comes up with a patch you can have more up to date data by, e.g. updating the current day in time for prime time
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[13:10:43] gelberg: dekarl-work: thanks for the info. i'll hope to find xmltv for as many channels as possible
[13:12:53] dekarl-work: gelberg: only after the switch to the new API :)
[13:14:31] dekarl-work: gelberg: see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/atlasap . . . 0sswxvDa988J
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[19:00:07] croccydile: Yay, got my iguanaworks ir
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[19:23:43] croccydile: And the stupid thing doesnt work
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[20:08:32] croccydile: Is there any ir blaster that actually WORKS?
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[20:12:58] smee: hi I am having problems with metadata lookups. If I run mythmetadatalookup I get error Movie grabber not functional. Any ideas how to fix this?
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[20:31:00] gelberg: hi all. i have a uk freeview (dvbt) and freesat (dvbs) system, one backend for each. there is some overlap between the channel listings – many channels available on both. i want to check the new dvbt channel scan is good – want to disable the dvb-s backend whilst i flick through live tv. but dvb-s is master backend. any way to temporarily disable the dvb-s source so i can flick through the dvb-t signals?
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