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| [06:27:01] | croccydile: | meep |
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| [17:43:34] | ikevin: | hi |
| [17:44:21] | ikevin: | i'm using myth-music, is there a way to have file streamed by the backend like livetv or video? |
| [17:44:52] | ikevin: | i've tryed to add a directory called "Music" and it don't work |
| [17:45:53] | ikevin: | i'm using frontend & myth music version 0.26 |
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| [18:42:21] | justdave: | my backend has suddenly decided it doesn't want to start anymore. The log just says "MySQL time zone support is missing. Please install it and try again. See 'mysql_tzinfo_to_sql' for assistance." and it quits |
| [18:42:46] | justdave: | running the mysql_tzinfo_to_sql script doesn't fix anything (and complains that the relevant rows in the database already exist) |
| [18:44:08] | justdave: | I just had my disk fill up because something was apaprently writing to it faster than the auto-purge could keep up, so it's possible something somewhere got written out incompletely at some point... any idea what else might trigger that error that I can reinstall/fix? |
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| [18:48:46] | sphery: | justdave: sounds like you have one or more crashed mysql tables |
| [18:49:28] | sphery: | specifically, I'd guess the time zone table (which is not a MythTV/mythconverg database table--but part of your mysql database) |
| [18:49:46] | sphery: | so you need to run mysqlcheck as mysql root user against at least the mysql database |
| [18:49:57] | sphery: | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysqlcheck.html |
| [18:50:10] | sphery: | (where the db_name will be mysql) |
| [18:50:21] | justdave: | credits table in mythconverg is marked as crashed |
| [18:50:28] | sphery: | or, better--because it seems to be really messed up, use --all-databases |
| [18:50:32] | sphery: | and mysql root user |
| [18:50:33] | justdave: | nothing in mysql is. |
| [18:50:46] | justdave: | but yeah, running a full check is better than just looking at status :) |
| [18:50:55] | sphery: | optimize_mythdb.pl will fix crashed mythconverg database files |
| [18:51:09] | sphery: | "fix" meaning "make them not crashed" (data integrity not guaranteed) |
| [18:51:18] | sphery: | but, on the bright side, credits isn't too important |
| [18:51:37] | sphery: | and have it fix the problems it finds, too |
| [18:51:56] | sphery: | (have mysqlcheck fix the problems in non-mythconverg tables, that is) |
| [18:52:17] | justdave: | if I delete the credits table will the optimize script recreate it? |
| [18:53:08] | justdave: | asking because... |
| [18:53:08] | justdave: | mythconverg.credits |
| [18:53:08] | justdave: | warning : Number of rows changed from 0 to 522272 |
| [18:53:09] | justdave: | status : OK |
| [18:53:16] | justdave: | that's probably not good. :) |
| [18:53:20] | sphery: | no, it can't recreate it |
| [18:53:32] | justdave: | I guess if it's not crashed anymore I can just truncate the table |
| [18:53:34] | sphery: | never drop any mythtv tables or you will completely destroy the schema |
| [18:54:03] | sphery: | no, it's saying that the data file metadata said there were 0 rows in there, when there are actually 500K |
| [18:54:06] | justdave: | or maybe that number of rows is correct |
| [18:54:09] | sphery: | so it fixed it so it coudl see them |
| [18:54:12] | sphery: | and that's probably about right |
| [18:54:18] | justdave: | I get 522k rows that look like real data when I dump the table |
| [18:54:41] | sphery: | if it has some that were previously deleted, they will be deleted, again, during normal updates from mythbackend |
| [18:54:44] | justdave: | must be for the tv guide data |
| [18:54:46] | sphery: | yes |
| [18:54:54] | justdave: | all dated with in the last 2 weeks |
| [18:55:00] | justdave: | which is about how long the guide data lasts |
| [18:56:07] | justdave: | ok, now when I try to start the backend, I get nothing logged at all instead of the error about timezones... |
| [18:56:25] | justdave: | (and it still doesn't start) |
| [18:56:45] | sphery: | start it in a console without your start script and look at the stdout/err output |
| [18:56:59] | sphery: | i.e. start it as the mythtv user with mythbackend |
| [18:57:06] | sphery: | or mythbackend.real, if you're on *buntu |
| [18:57:53] | justdave: | ok, still giving me the timezone error in the console output |
| [18:57:54] | justdave: | 2013-08–22 14:57:41.418846 E MySQL time zone support is missing. Please install it and try again. See 'mysql_tzinfo_to_sql' for assistance. |
| [18:57:55] | sphery: | but sounds like the starting attempts have messed up your log file configuration or something |
| [18:58:21] | justdave: | oh, wait. I need to start it as the mythtv user |
| [18:58:26] | sphery: | and you did a mysqlcheck -uroot -p --all-databases |
| [18:58:27] | sphery: | ? |
| [18:58:28] | justdave: | started it as root. oops. |
| [18:58:37] | sphery: | and starting as root will mess up log files |
| [18:58:52] | sphery: | (can break permissions and such) |
| [18:59:00] | sphery: | might have to clean that up later |
| [18:59:05] | justdave: | couldn't find the log files because it was looking for a config file that didn't exist in /root/.mythtv |
| [19:00:12] | justdave: | still same error starting as mythtv user, but I also notice this: |
| [19:00:12] | justdave: | 2013-08–22 14:59:26.608975 N Reading locale defaults from /usr/share/mythtv//locales/en_us.xml |
| [19:00:20] | justdave: | any chance that file being corrupted would cause it? |
| [19:00:30] | sphery: | ah, ok |
| [19:00:53] | sphery: | no, locale defaults are only used when you have no settings for the host |
| [19:01:40] | justdave: | and just for completeness, mysqlcheck --all-databases says everything is OK now |
| [19:01:50] | sphery: | as mysql root user |
| [19:01:52] | sphery: | -uroot |
| [19:01:54] | justdave: | yep |
| [19:01:58] | sphery: | otherwise, it's not checking everything |
| [19:01:59] | sphery: | ok |
| [19:02:00] | sphery: | just making sure |
| [19:02:20] | sphery: | if it's still not working, something is very messed up in your mysql database |
| [19:03:05] | sphery: | you may want to back up your mythconverg database ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore ), and may have to do something to redo everything for mysql |
| [19:03:30] | sphery: | I'm sure your package manager has something it can do to reset things, but I don't know how to do any of that |
| [19:04:11] | sphery: | "reset" meaning basically "delete the existing database data files and re-init a brand new/empty data store so you can then restore your mythconverg backup to it" |
| [19:05:25] | justdave: | user and db tables look intact in mysql and are the only auth-related tables that have any data in them. Guessing I can back those up along with the other databases then wipe and reinstall mysql and put those back. |
| [19:06:50] | sphery: | I'd be very careful about backing up/restoring any part (versus complete) mysql database |
| [19:07:03] | sphery: | I'd recommend just reconfiguring it all |
| [19:07:12] | sphery: | again, though, use what the package system gives you |
| [19:07:15] | sphery: | it's all been tested |
| [19:07:33] | sphery: | and doesn't require tons of work figuring out mysql garbage |
| [19:30:40] | ikevin: | mysql normaly can repaire crashed table, so, some corrupted data can be lost |
| [19:31:18] | ikevin: | https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/fr/repair-table.html |
| [19:33:28] | ikevin: | (replace 'fr' by 'en' in the url if you would it in english) |
| [19:36:23] | ikevin: | myth have some table using myisam who can be repaired with no data lost |
| [19:36:47] | ikevin: | inodb table is more harder to repair |
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| [19:46:01] | justdave: | oh, heh. my system is ancient and has been getting upgraded over time... |
| [19:46:30] | justdave: | my mysql config pre-dates when Ubuntu/Debian started including a backdoor admin password for use by dpkg when doing setup stuff |
| [19:47:01] | justdave: | the initscript for mythtv now attempts to use that dpkg access to ping the server to see if it's up |
| [19:47:24] | justdave: | and since the debian-sys-maint user doesn't exist, it thinks mysql isn't running |
| [19:47:53] | ikevin: | oh, ok |
| [19:48:26] | ikevin: | you can run "mysqld_safe" to start mysql without debian check |
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| [19:49:17] | ikevin: | after, you can add (or update) the debian-sys-maint user and password |
| [19:50:04] | ikevin: | and reconfigure file in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf |
| [19:50:31] | justdave: | I just copied the existing username/pass from that debian.cnf file and did a grant on it in mysql |
| [19:50:42] | justdave: | I had a root pw set up already on it |
| [19:50:49] | justdave: | just wasn't the one the system knew about :) |
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| [19:52:22] | ikevin: | ok :) |
| [19:54:04] | justdave: | although I'm a bit confused why it didn't create that user when I did the apt-get remove --purge on mysql-server and then reinstalled it |
| [19:54:35] | ikevin: | i use myth during some years, and i didn't recommand to use it on debian because debian isn't multimedia oriented and often break myth |
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| [19:57:14] | ikevin: | after a "apt-get remove --purge on mysql-server", make sure that directory /var/lib/mysql doesn't exist |
| [19:58:38] | justdave: | yeah, I did that. |
| [19:58:49] | justdave: | and then discovered it didn't recreate it when I installed it again and mysql wouldn't start |
| [19:58:59] | justdave: | had to create it and run mysql_install_db |
| [19:59:15] | justdave: | which only created the root and test users |
| [19:59:52] | ** justdave was employed a mysql DBA in a previous life but did everything on RHEL so Ubuntu's stuff still confuses me a bit ** | |
| [20:00:48] | ikevin: | I had this problem, just in debian, using another distribs (like mint or ubuntu) and this kind of problem is resolved |
| [20:01:00] | justdave: | on RHEL the initscript creates the data directory on the first run if it doesn't exist |
| [20:01:47] | justdave: | with Ubuntu's "everything should just work" philosophy I would assume dpkg would have created it if it didn't exist before even getting that far :) |
| [20:01:58] | justdave: | but what do I know? :) |
| [20:03:43] | ikevin: | with ubuntu, "--purge" is suffisent to recreate default configuration while doing a second "install" for mysql |
| [20:04:14] | ikevin: | or using "rm -rf /var/lib/mysql && apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server" |
| [20:04:33] | justdave: | how do I find out what package owns a given file in ubuntu? |
| [20:04:48] | justdave: | (on RHEL it would be "rpm -qf filename" |
| [20:04:50] | justdave: | ) |
| [20:05:37] | tgm4883: | justdave, 'dpkg -S /path/to/File' I think |
| [20:06:16] | justdave: | root@mythtv-server:/var/lib# dpkg -S /var/lib/mysql |
| [20:06:17] | justdave: | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /var/lib/mysql |
| [20:06:22] | justdave: | guess that answers that question |
| [20:06:34] | ikevin: | i don't use rpm based distrib during some years, do, you can use "apt-file" (if installed) |
| [20:06:36] | justdave: | (yeah, tried it on a couple things I know would be owned, and that was the correct command line to find it) |
| [20:06:56] | ikevin: | apt-file /var/lib/mysql/ |
| [20:07:22] | justdave: | was trying to figure out if that was owned by something other than mysql-server that I'd need to reinstall |
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| [20:08:46] | clever: | justdave: i dont think it works on directories, only files |
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| [20:09:37] | justdave: | it works on directories, because there's about 50 packages that claim to own /var/lib :) |
| [20:10:20] | clever: | yeah, it worked on /usr/bin but not /usr/bin/ |
| [20:10:27] | justdave: | mythtv-backend being one of them |
| [20:10:29] | clever: | odd that /var/lib/mysql doesnt show up |
| [20:10:40] | ikevin: | clever, it work on directory, so, not on directory created on the fly by dpkg |
| [20:10:47] | justdave: | right. |
| [20:11:15] | justdave: | so it means something somewhere needs to create the directory... which should be getting done by the initscript on first run in that case, or so you would think |
| [20:11:37] | clever: | justdave: root@theP4:/var/lib/dpkg/info# cat mysql-server.list |
| [20:11:49] | clever: | i find its sometimes usefull to bypass the tools and read these files directly |
| [20:12:32] | justdave: | dohoho.... mysql-server is a meta-package which depends on mysql-server-5.5 |
| [20:12:44] | justdave: | so I have to apt-get remove --purge mysql-server-5.5 :) |
| [20:14:15] | justdave: | and yes, dpkg creates the directory and initially populates the database at install time |
| [20:14:22] | justdave: | just needed to reinstall the right package :) |
| [20:14:33] | ikevin: | using dpkg -L on all mysql package, it seems that directory /var/lib/mysql is created by a script on the fly |
| [20:14:59] | ikevin: | (this directory is not referenced in package) |
| [20:18:34] | justdave: | yay, mythtv-backend is running |
| [20:19:09] | justdave: | did the grant for the mythtv user with its existing password from its config, restored the mythconverg backup |
| [20:19:16] | justdave: | (after wiping and reinstalling mysql) |
| [20:20:13] | justdave: | oh, I spoke too soon, it did die again. damnit |
| [20:20:20] | clever: | die how? |
| [20:20:22] | justdave: | same error, just took it a while to get to it |
| [20:20:27] | clever: | what error? |
| [20:20:30] | justdave: | Aug 22 16:20:01 mythtv-server mythlogserver: mythbackend[17013]: E CoreContext main_helpers.cpp:540 (run_backend) MySQL time zone support is missing. Please install it and try again. See 'mysql_tzinfo_to_sql' for assistance. |
| [20:20:53] | clever: | that one is simple to fix |
| [20:21:02] | justdave: | maybe Ubuntu pushed a mysql update that has that compile option missing or something stupid |
| [20:21:21] | clever: | you simply have to run mysql_tzinfo_to_sql on a timezone info dir |
| [20:21:49] | clever: | mysql_tzinfo_to_sql /usr/share/zoneinfo/ | mysql -u root -p mysql |
| [20:21:50] | clever: | i think |
| [20:21:59] | justdave: | yeah, did that before and it didn't solve it |
| [20:22:04] | justdave: | that was before reinstalling mysql though |
| [20:22:23] | clever: | you nuked it, so you have to do that step again |
| [20:22:42] | justdave: | yep, did it again, now it looks like it's staying up |
| [20:22:50] | ikevin: | try to use an empty database and run myth |
| [20:23:11] | justdave: | yep, it's definitely staying up this time |
| [20:23:12] | ikevin: | after debian/ubuntu ugrade i've some erre |
| [20:23:15] | ikevin: | erf |
| [20:23:18] | justdave: | housekeeper is running |
| [20:23:50] | ikevin: | after debian/ubuntu ugrade i've some errors on video metadata table and the only way i've found is to use an empty db |
| [20:24:05] | ikevin: | and after, merging old and new db |
| [20:26:00] | justdave: | yep, it's up and running, frontends can see it. |
| [20:26:04] | justdave: | thanks guys :) |
| [20:26:51] | justdave: | now to work on getting that extra 4 TB of disk space I bought and installed 6 months ago configured so mythtv can actually see and use it so this won't happen again for a few years :) |
| [20:27:59] | justdave: | I knew it was running low on space and added hard drives, but never got around to setting them up because I managed to find a few hundred GB of stuff to nuke to buy it time at the time |
| [20:28:32] | justdave: | getting the kids to stop marking everything "do not auto-delete" is helpful too |
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| [20:39:13] | ikevin: | haha, saving to many multimedia's data is difficult :p |
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| [20:40:18] | justdave: | actually, looking at the recordings, I see stuff that's two years old that doesn't have the "don't auto-expire" flag set that hasn't disappeared |
| [20:40:23] | ikevin: | i've upgraded to 4TB of storage last december, and now i need a second 4TB supp |
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| [20:41:22] | justdave: | I have a nagios server running on my LAN that's supposed to yell about disk space. |
| [20:41:32] | justdave: | unfortunately it's also running on the same box with the mythtv backend |
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| [20:41:37] | justdave: | and it also died when it ran out of space |
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| [20:41:57] | justdave: | so apparently the final throes of running out of space happened fast enough that it all died before nagios noticed it :| |
| [20:42:00] | ikevin: | i'm not using recordings, french tv programs are stupids, so internet have to much good programs |
| [20:42:17] | justdave: | yeah, I keep trying to convince my family of that, too |
| [20:42:45] | justdave: | too much "need to have it now because they don't put it on Hulu until a week later" etc. |
| [20:43:43] | ikevin: | haha |
| [20:44:20] | Kwisher: | hello, i need help getting my secondary backend to connect to my master |
| [20:44:24] | ikevin: | i've some chance, my wife like movie, and my daughter is too young to watch tv :D |
| [20:44:55] | ikevin: | so, i've 6TB of data :( |
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| [20:49:59] | bill6502: | Kwisher: OK, I'll give it a shot, what version are you running? |
| [20:51:23] | bill6502: | And he's gone. |
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| [20:52:26] | mengoshmink: | I think he will be back, |
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| [20:57:39] | ikevin: | any idea on possiblity to how to share music (using mythmusic) between multiple frontend without using a network mount? |
| [20:57:49] | ikevin: | -how |
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| [21:00:02] | justdave: | hmm, so somewhere I had a script that would compare the filesystem with the contents of the mythconverg database and point out files that mismatched the db and so forth |
| [21:00:41] | justdave: | I'm wondering if all these files that won't auto-delete are somehow corrupted and the delete is failing because some sanity-check with the DB doesn't match |
| [21:01:01] | justdave: | like maybe they don't actually exist on the filesystem but the db entry is still there |
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| [21:02:17] | justdave: | aha, found it. |
| [21:02:36] | justdave: | and yes, that is indeed the case, it's reporting db entries with missing files, and those are the ones I was seeing that were past-due for auto-delete |
| [21:05:40] | justdave: | hmm, was only about half of them actually |
| [21:05:52] | justdave: | there's still a bunch in the existing recording list that look way past-due for auto-expire |
| [21:06:50] | justdave: | considering I'm configured to keep 10 GB free and there's only 2.1 GB free right now, it should be deleting some of these I'd think |
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| [21:12:31] | justdave: | logs around the last auto-expire run have a bunch of these: |
| [21:12:32] | justdave: | Aug 22 17:04:02 mythtv-server mythlogserver: mythbackend[17091]: E DeleteThread mainserver.cpp:1954 (DoDeleteThread) ERROR retrieving program info when trying to delete program for chanid 1104 recorded at 2013-08–08T00:00:00Z. Recording will NOT be deleted. |
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| [21:30:41] | bill6502: | justdave: was the script you found named: find-orphans? |
| [21:30:51] | justdave: | bill6502: it was |
| [21:31:47] | bill6502: | You *might* get more info from the log by adding the file option, for a running BE, use: mythbackend --setverbose file |
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| [21:36:00] | justdave: | yep, now I get verbose logging of what auto-expire is doing... |
| [21:36:08] | justdave: | and it simply decides "nothing to expire" |
| [21:36:24] | justdave: | after noticing there's not enough free space and going looking for stuff to expire. |
| [21:36:45] | justdave: | yet I can see at least 10 things in the existing recordings list from mythweb that don't have the "don't auto-expire" flag set on them |
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| [21:37:16] | justdave: | is there some other criteria it uses to decide it can't expire something? |
| [21:37:29] | bill6502: | you can turn it off with: mythbackend --setverbose general |
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| [21:40:22] | bill6502: | i can't find the code that's being checked DoDeleteThread. It's failing: pginfo.GetChanID(), which suggests something isn't in the DB for that channel and timtstamp. |
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| [21:52:55] | gelberg_: | hi all, if i have an xmltvid set for a channel and useonairguide true, what happens? does EIT overwrite xmltv data or vice versa? |
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| [21:55:23] | justdave: | http://justdave.pastebin.mozilla.org/2900470 |
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| [21:58:38] | justdave: | aha... I think I found the issue |
| [21:58:55] | justdave: | the shows which are showing auto-epire that aren't deleting have the machine's old hostname listed on them in the database |
| [21:59:01] | justdave: | machine got renamed a year or two ago |
| [22:00:39] | justdave: | got replaced, actually :) database moved to the new machine |
| [22:00:51] | justdave: | I remember having to do that hostname dance on other tables, apparently I missed that one |
| [22:02:22] | gelberg_: | my loggin table has reached 666MB. can i safely delete all rows? |
| [22:02:36] | gelberg_: | (in order to decrease my db size?) |
| [22:04:42] | bill6502: | gelberg_: are you referring to the mythconverg.logging table? It should be cleaned up by Housekeeping automatically. |
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| [22:07:03] | gelberg_: | bill6502: hi again. yes i am. apparently housekeeping.. isn't |
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| [22:18:56] | bill6502: | gelberg_: by the way, there was a fix for the ticket we discussed (11318.) It was released this morning. I looked at your backtrace again and thought it might not be a match after all.So, if it isn't fixed by a new build, you'd best open a ticket in Trac. |
| [22:19:44] | bill6502: | I did try setting up my test host as a slave to my real backend and didn't see the problem. I only let it run for about 15 minutes though. |
| [22:19:52] | gelberg_: | bill6502: okay. i really hope it is a match, it's driving my parents mad. if the fix is simple i'll manually apply it to my 0.27-beta tree |
| [22:21:15] | bill6502: | its: 2013-08–23 d6b9469 Make sure the result is a list of exactly 8 bytes... Are you building from source? |
| [22:22:29] | bill6502: | mythbackend --version = v0.27-beta-39-gd6b9469 |
| [22:23:01] | gelberg_: | bill6502: yes, i am, i have a git tree with 0.27-beta checked out |
| [22:25:31] | bill6502: | gelberg_: I just did a git pull and it's the most recent commit, Rebuilding now. |
| [22:27:06] | gelberg_: | bill6502: you running master? |
| [22:27:17] | bill6502: | yes |
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| [22:31:19] | ** gelberg_ hugs git cherry-pick ** | |
| [22:31:27] | yunosh: | hi, is the "forget old" feature working for everyone on 0.26-fixes? it doesn't seem to do anything for me, neither from mythweb or frontend |
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| [22:40:15] | gelberg_: | right, i need to scan dvb-t for new channels. any improvements or best practices in this area for 0.27-beta vs 0.26? |
| [22:40:27] | gelberg_: | this is my worst mythtv job |
| [22:44:13] | gelberg_: | here's my workflow: |
| [22:44:40] | gelberg_: | 1) Scan for channels 2) Scan existing transports 3) Ignore off-air channels 4) For conflicts, add an ‘a’ to the end of the channel number |
| [22:45:01] | gelberg_: | i mean, why do i get conflicts anyway? what does that even mean? |
| [22:45:09] | gelberg_: | then in mythweb: |
| [22:45:23] | gelberg_: | 1) Go through list in settings 2) Delete channels with blank channel numbers or underscores at the start. |
| [22:45:31] | gelberg_: | 3) Where there are duplicates, check channel numbers, delete one with old number, copy xmltvid |
| [22:45:42] | gelberg_: | surely there has to be a better way? |
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| [22:56:14] | bill6502: | gelberg_: Can't see any specific improvements in the 0.27 release notes re: scanning. I only did it once while running 0.27-pre and saw no differences, although that was months ago. i just scan for channels and, thankfully don't have many conflicts. I do use mythweb to change some channels to be invisable. I'm also in the US and use Schedules Direct. Leaving the office now. Take care. [you may have a private IRC message, I click on the mail icon to see |
| [22:56:16] | bill6502: | them] |
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| [23:08:02] | skd5aner: | so, I have a custom rule to record any college football games from a certain university... but it's recording it on multiple different channels at the same time, and multiple different showings |
| [23:08:20] | skd5aner: | for example, I'm getting the same game recorded 8 different times this saturday for a game that was played in 2012 |
| [23:08:34] | skd5aner: | Any advice on how to prevent this? |
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| [23:27:55] | skd5aner: | hmm, I think I found the right SQL syntax to fix what I was trying to accmplish, but trying to save the rule in mythweb is running on 2+ minutes |
| [23:32:01] | skd5aner: | yay – that crashed mythbackend |
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