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[00:18:47] wagnerrp: i'm not talking about just watching tv, or playing back movies
[00:19:02] wagnerrp: that's all dependent on the hardware decoder
[00:19:11] wagnerrp: i'm talking about intensive logic to decide what to record
[00:19:25] wagnerrp: or things like commercial detection, live transcoding
[00:19:59] wagnerrp: depending on the number of tuners and channels you have, mythtv has a real need for some performance
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[00:59:25] croccydile: FLeiXiuS_: hvr-2250 + hdpvr
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[01:25:51] Milardo: Hi can i ask here if my hdmi capture card is supported on mythtv?
[01:33:48] Milardo: anybody?
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[01:46:44] croccydile: FLeiXiuS_: Well I am awake now... sorry I wasnt able to answer earlier
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[02:30:07] wagnerrp: maybe if you waited more than ten minutes, someone would be around to answer...
[02:30:19] wagnerrp: of course the answer would be "no"...
[02:34:27] wagnerrp: i hear a clicking noise, hope that's not a hard drive
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[02:58:41] croccydile: wagnerrp: Awrrrr
[02:59:01] croccydile: I read about having to set hdparm for seagate drives
[03:00:08] wagnerrp: this is a toshiba
[03:00:18] wagnerrp: and it's not even picked up by the system
[03:00:20] wagnerrp: it's DOA
[03:00:42] croccydile: :c
[03:00:51] wagnerrp: may as well run in the other drives
[03:01:11] croccydile: I remember when I first started with mythtv 250GB was big, and that wasnt enough :p
[03:01:26] croccydile: My only disappointment now is that the hvr-2250 has a max bitrate of 6.5mbit
[03:01:48] wagnerrp: eh? it should go up to 38.4Mbps
[03:02:17] wagnerrp: not sure what the analog side is capable of, but the older IVTV cards would do 12mbps or something
[03:02:34] croccydile: Thats the analog side
[03:02:49] croccydile: Yeah I have the older ones from previously mentioned foray into mythtv... 150 and 500
[03:03:11] croccydile: However the comb filter on those are shit. Higher bitrate but ugly video. The 2250 is far better but lower max bitrate ><
[03:03:58] croccydile: To get better quality video with higher bitrate I would need to find the now ancient 250
[03:04:12] wagnerrp: i don't recall those older cards having any comb filter what so ever
[03:04:17] wagnerrp: they would output interlaced mpeg2
[03:06:09] croccydile: Uhhh, all of them do
[03:06:31] wagnerrp: a comb filter would be a deinterlacer, they did not deinterlace
[03:06:34] croccydile: http://capnbry.net/~bmayland/fi/pvr150/
[03:06:48] croccydile: Nein, comb filter is for improving composite video
[03:06:52] croccydile: Its part of the tuner
[03:07:17] wagnerrp: oh, i have heard that. the video quality on the tuner was poor but the video capture was much better
[03:07:42] croccydile: Well the 2250 is much more like the 250, if not better (Its like capturing s-video from analog TV)
[03:07:51] croccydile: However the low max bitrate leaves motion a bit blocky
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[03:08:50] croccydile: Lemme see if I can show you a sample
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[03:10:23] croccydile: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqcrowe72las6ol/201 . . . 10.13%5D.png
[03:10:34] croccydile: Edges are nice and sharp, with no mudding
[03:12:02] croccydile: I may try to turn down sharpness with v4l2-ctl to see if it improves blocking
[03:15:40] wagnerrp: the shame is, i was buying from different batches and different retailers so i wouldn't get a bunch of drives from a single bad batch
[03:15:46] wagnerrp: i don't remember where i bought this one from
[03:15:51] wagnerrp: should have kept track of serials
[03:15:52] croccydile: :/
[03:17:57] croccydile: I just need to figure out why I cant watch live tv
[03:18:04] croccydile: Or at least reliably, it only works 1 out of 10 times
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[04:06:19] croccydile: HD-PVR does not seem to tolerate switching between VBR and CBR well
[04:21:25] croccydile: Now I have channels that keep trying to show up in my lineup but do not exist... they are not even in schedulesdirect
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[05:10:22] croccydile: So it seems the 2250 is overly sharp by default then
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[08:02:26] gelberg: hi all, i'm loking forward to pugrading my parents fixes/0.26 to 0.27, as their experience with 0.26 has been variable and the bug fixes look relevant. i see that 0.27-alpha has been released, but 0.27-beta is running a little late. any ideas when the beta will be released?
[08:03:28] gelberg: i don't live in the same country as them, and i'm here for a week – somehow i much prefer updating their system in person rather than over ssh ;)
[08:04:12] gelberg: also, any comments on the stability of the alpha in the average scenario? perhaps i could get them running on that
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[08:30:55] somethinginteres: How can I make sure my channels always have EIT guide data? Previously I had to view each channel to get data to show up. Now some have data but most don't. EIT is enabled on all.
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[08:43:02] somethinginteres: viewing the channels adds guide data to them but if I forget to view each then there's no data
[08:56:41] croccydile: I think there is something where it uses the dvb connection in the background
[08:57:02] croccydile: I just came across something odd, I wonder if there is a way to "clear" the schedule lineup and make it re-download
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[10:14:26] croccydile: Hrm, has anyone had issues with the HDPVR not wanting to switch to VBR?
[10:27:32] gelberg: hi all, i'm loking forward to pugrading my parents fixes/0.26 to 0.27, as their experience with 0.26 has been variable and the bug fixes look relevant. i see that 0.27-alpha has been released, but 0.27-beta is running a little late. any ideas when the beta will be released?
[10:27:36] gelberg: i don't live in the same country as them, and i'm here for a week – somehow i much prefer updating their system in person rather than over ssh ;)
[10:27:39] gelberg: also, any comments on the stability of the alpha in the average scenario? perhaps i could get them running on that
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[14:09:10] wagnerrp: gelberg: it's an alpha, rather than a developmental version
[14:09:24] wagnerrp: meaning it's in feature freeze leading up to a release
[14:09:52] wagnerrp: we've been in bug-fix mode for about the last month
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[15:54:54] lux_2: hi
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[15:55:55] lux_2: how can i remove the info that a show i recorded was recorded from mythtv/database? if the recording already has been deleted but it's still visible that it has been recorded in epg. how can i delete that info?
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[16:21:30] wagnerrp: same way you delete anything else
[16:21:42] wagnerrp: it will warn you it cannot find the file, and give you an option to force the deletion
[16:22:05] wagnerrp: oh, you're not talking about an orphaned recording
[16:22:13] wagnerrp: you want to eliminate the duplicate detection entry
[16:22:17] wagnerrp: you can do one of two things
[16:22:28] wagnerrp: you can go into the recording management, and tell it to forget the old recording
[16:22:43] wagnerrp: or you can create an override rule that forces the recording to go through even though it is a duplicate
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[18:32:15] croccydile: Well... live tv improved now on the machine. Just analog wont work on a remote system
[18:32:28] croccydile: Not sure if its xbmc or something else
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[20:06:46] wagnerrp: oh todd, you ignorant fool...
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[20:08:01] wagnerrp: you know, i swear i told that idiot not to do that like six months ago on the mythtvtalk forum
[20:08:14] wagnerrp: but he just keeps insisting mythtv is broken rather than him
[20:08:22] wagnerrp: #11760
[20:08:22] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11760 **
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[22:16:16] Russ: I have audio hookup up through hdmi, but whenever audio starts, there is a 2–6 second delay till my TV actually starts playing it
[22:16:27] Russ: is there a way to get the system to never stop playing audio (silence)
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[22:57:43] hotwings: sounds like sync delay
[22:59:33] hotwings: some apps are able to do video/audio immediately, while other less sophisticated ones can only sync using certain types of frames.
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