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| [01:15:33] | [R]: | wagnerrp: you there? |
| [01:17:24] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [01:18:18] | [R]: | so i have a show at 730–8, and i have a show at 8–30 |
| [01:18:24] | [R]: | and it claims the show at 8 conflicts with the show at 730 |
| [01:18:26] | [R]: | and i acnt' figure out why |
| [01:18:32] | [R]: | 8–830* |
| [01:18:45] | wagnerrp: | padding? |
| [01:19:01] | [R]: | 0 |
| [01:19:15] | wagnerrp: | maybe the guide data has it listed offset by a minute? |
| [01:20:08] | [R]: | it says 7:30 and 8:00 in mythweb upcoming list |
| [01:20:15] | [R]: | and both say 30 minutes |
| [01:20:45] | Korny: | There is a setting to add a buffer to recordings as well, I don't remember where it is off hand though :( |
| [01:20:57] | wagnerrp: | add a buffer? |
| [01:21:02] | [R]: | record early/late |
| [01:21:04] | [R]: | thats set to 0 too |
| [01:21:26] | wagnerrp: | there was the old ringbuffer setting, but that hasnt been around in several versions |
| [01:21:45] | wagnerrp: | and only applied to livetv |
| [01:22:09] | [R]: | and i have other back to back shows that have no problem |
| [01:22:13] | [R]: | its just this one instance, every week |
| [01:23:58] | [R]: | is there any way to make the scheduler explain why its doing somethign? |
| [01:24:14] | wagnerrp: | mythutil --print-sched |
| [01:25:29] | [R]: | i have that in mythbackend... |
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| [01:28:06] | [R]: | http://pastebin.com/Y6Jq0Crn |
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| [01:28:34] | [R]: | in mythweb, i see the futurama, followed by the exes, followed by a cops at 8 that says its in conflict with the exes |
| [01:29:17] | [R]: | oh i missed a line |
| [01:29:19] | [R]: | there is a show at 8 |
| [01:29:22] | [R]: | but its on a different tuner |
| [01:30:51] | [R]: | http://pastebin.com/LC4tCiuW |
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| [02:54:08] | juanfe: | Hello, some one know if the board HDC 301 work with mythtv to record HDMI video? |
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| [02:55:17] | wagnerrp: | there's no purpose to recording HDMI |
| [02:55:30] | wagnerrp: | assuming the device was supported by V4L, and mythtv could use it |
| [02:55:49] | wagnerrp: | it would be unwilling to capture any encrypted content, and any output of an STB is going to be encrypted |
| [02:56:13] | wagnerrp: | analog capture is the only option |
| [02:57:00] | juanfe: | K, I get it! |
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| [17:25:48] | korsgard_: | hi, anyone here have any recommendations for a HVR card? I'm planning to set up a server for mythtv but there is so many options :( |
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| [18:17:08] | tonsofpcs: | korsgard_: HVR? |
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| [18:20:55] | svalcken: | Hello, what can i do to find a problem with quad-dvb-s card. after any days the channels will not complete locked. After restart from Backend the same problem. after Reboot of linux the card will be work normal. It's posible a driver problem or give it any other workaround's or fixes? |
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| [18:21:55] | raven: | hi |
| [18:21:56] | raven: | what is the best config to use a dvb-t channel list on two receiver crads with dynamic use of them if two transponders are needed? |
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| [18:25:41] | korsgard_: | tonsofpcs: hauppauge has a lot of HVR cards. both internal and USB. cards for capturing tv signal |
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| [18:38:45] | tonsofpcs: | raven: -T doesn't generally come out of transponders... |
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| [18:57:40] | raven: | tonsofpcs, perhaps you need the word "bouquet" to react on my question |
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| [19:16:53] | sphery: | svalcken: Definitely sounds like a driver problem, but note that I've had similar problems with an ATSC card's driver getting the card in a bad state when my system attempts to tune a channel incorrectly... So, if nothing else, you may want to try a rescan and see if it prevents the driver issue from occurring. |
| [19:18:12] | sphery: | raven: A Video Source is a list of channels that are available on a given input and their associated tuning information. So, you'd just need one Video Source mapped to the inputs of both DVB-T cards. |
| [19:18:49] | sphery: | (assuming both DVB-T inputs have access to the exact same list of channels, which is normally the case) |
| [19:20:48] | raven: | sphery, that was what i am looking for but where to map this list? |
| [19:25:28] | raven: | sphery, i now mapped the "video source" to both cards |
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| [19:34:34] | raven: | sphery, ? |
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| [19:44:15] | sphery: | raven: once you create the video source and connect it to an input use the channel scanner in mythtv-setup to scan for channels |
| [19:44:44] | sphery: | the channels.conf import stuff doesn't really work because there are too many different formats of channels.conf and they don't typically contain the information we need, anyway |
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| [19:47:16] | raven: | i did not understand the things yet its a bit wired.... |
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| [19:47:42] | raven: | i set up the two capture cards in menu 2 |
| [19:48:20] | raven: | sphery, do i need two "video sources" in menu 4 or just 1? |
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| [19:51:18] | sphery: | raven: if the channel list is identical (i.e. both inputs can receive all the channels on the list) and they tune the channels in the same way (i.e. using a DVB-T "internal" tuner on the card), then only one Video Source |
| [19:51:36] | raven: | ok |
| [19:51:37] | sphery: | so, I'm guessing just one Video Source (that's usually the case) |
| [19:52:04] | raven: | this video source now i mapped to both "input connections" in menu 5 |
| [19:52:14] | sphery: | right |
| [19:52:32] | sphery: | and once you map it to an input, you'll need to do the channel scan |
| [19:52:40] | raven: | ok what do i need in the "interactions between inputs"? |
| [19:53:01] | sphery: | Input Groups, you mean? |
| [19:53:18] | sphery: | if so, nothing--that's an ability to say "you can't use this input when this other one is being used" |
| [19:54:16] | sphery: | for example, if you had a cable-company set-top box and hooked up a firewire input (for a few unencrypted channels) and a PVR-150 to its analog output (for all the channels available on the STB) |
| [19:54:31] | raven: | sphery, yes thats my problem... i set one card to record two video streams (so if i want to use two programs on the same multiplex), the second card still is not activated if i want to watch on another multiplex |
| [19:54:38] | sphery: | that would tell MythTV "if you're using the firewire, you can't use the PVR-150 since both are using the same STB" |
| [19:54:57] | sphery: | no, that's the way things work |
| [19:55:18] | sphery: | when MythTV is using Live TV and a recording needs to start with the tuner you're using for Live TV, it will boot you out |
| [19:56:01] | sphery: | you need to use 0.26 or higher and set the Schedule Order (order cards are used for recordings) and Live TV Order (order cards are used for Live TV) to be opposites... so, basically 1,2 for Schedule Order and 2,1 for Live TV Order |
| [19:56:07] | raven: | i will disable the dual input to make it more easy... |
| [19:56:09] | raven: | just a moment |
| [19:56:24] | sphery: | the dual input is actually 2 separate cars |
| [19:56:25] | sphery: | cards |
| [19:56:35] | sphery: | just define them as 2 separate cards |
| [19:57:00] | sphery: | so if you have 2 dual-tuner DVB-T cards, you'd define 4 cards in MythTV |
| [19:57:32] | sphery: | they'll use, for example, /dev/dvb/adapter0 through /dev/dvb/adapter3 |
| [19:57:37] | raven: | sphery, no it is both single tuner but i had them set up to record 2 channels if they are on the same multiplex |
| [19:57:50] | sphery: | so, for all intents and purposes--regardless of physical packaging--they /are/ 4 separate DVB cards |
| [19:57:57] | sphery: | that's fine |
| [19:58:12] | sphery: | but each tuner will be locked to a single multiplex |
| [19:58:13] | raven: | i disabled that now in the record options |
| [19:58:55] | raven: | ok you mean mythtv looks for itself if it needs another multiplex and activates the second card? |
| [19:59:12] | sphery: | yes |
| [19:59:32] | sphery: | and uses Schedule and Live TV Order to determine which card is used first |
| [19:59:46] | raven: | i think there is my problem |
| [20:00:06] | raven: | i always have only one multiplex so the other card is not used at all |
| [20:00:23] | sphery: | but MythTV knows that the "virtual" tuners you get when you enable 2 tuner multirec are linked to the physical tuner, and will only be usable if the physical tuner is already on the right mux |
| [20:00:44] | sphery: | well, it would be used when you have 3 concurrent recordings scheduled :) |
| [20:01:30] | raven: | sphery, i tested only watching with client 1 on mux 1 and tried to watch on mux 2 with client 2 |
| [20:01:39] | raven: | and this did not work because only mux 1 was available |
| [20:02:03] | sphery: | well, if you've properly connected your cards/inputs, it would use the 2nd physical tuner for mux 2 |
| [20:02:17] | raven: | it does not |
| [20:02:35] | sphery: | but because you're using Live TV, you may have to /manually/ change tuners using the MENU (M) in Live TV |
| [20:02:53] | raven: | oh...... |
| [20:02:58] | sphery: | especially if you're not using current 0.26-fixes |
| [20:03:05] | sphery: | and you /should/ be using current 0.26-fixes |
| [20:03:09] | sphery: | especially if you use Live TV |
| [20:03:14] | raven: | you say this intelligent switching only works for recording+livetv? |
| [20:03:20] | sphery: | because there have been a lot of issues related to Live TV fixed for it |
| [20:03:39] | raven: | i think i am on 0.26 |
| [20:03:42] | sphery: | (or, better, use current 0.26-fixes and don't waste your life using Live TV :) |
| [20:03:50] | sphery: | make sure it's 0.26-fixes |
| [20:03:52] | sphery: | not 0.26 release |
| [20:03:59] | raven: | how to find out? |
| [20:04:03] | sphery: | what do you get from: mythbackend --version |
| [20:04:11] | sphery: | (to http://www.pastebin.com/ please) |
| [20:04:57] | raven: | 0.26.20130225–1 "mythtv branch : fixes/0.26 |
| [20:05:47] | sphery: | and the revision number? |
| [20:06:01] | sphery: | or just paste the whole output to pastebin.com |
| [20:07:22] | raven: | www.pastebin.com/CsHyE9gH |
| [20:08:19] | sphery: | yeah, that's good--it's a Jul 31 version, so it's up to date |
| [20:08:49] | sphery: | so your Live TV and Schedule Order should be set up properly for you, automatically, when you define the cards |
| [20:09:12] | raven: | i still get "no lock" on the other mux |
| [20:09:18] | sphery: | and I'd guess that all you need to do in your Live TV test is use mythfrontend's MENU to change tuners on one of the mythfrontend boxes |
| [20:10:13] | sphery: | just make sure you're using tuners 1 and 3 or whatever, using something like MythWeb status page (or mythbackend status at http://localhost:6544/ ) |
| [20:10:51] | sphery: | no lock could be a problem with the channel list--i.e. it's trying to get to an encrypted channel or a channel that doesn't exist or something |
| [20:10:54] | raven: | i cannot set the tuners /"sources" in the menu |
| [20:11:13] | raven: | no its unencrypted and on air |
| [20:11:19] | sphery: | there's an option to use next tuner or next input or something |
| [20:11:48] | sphery: | not sure what else it could be |
| [20:12:54] | raven: | ah yes |
| [20:12:58] | raven: | ust a moment |
| [20:18:43] | raven: | hey i think it works now! ;) |
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| [20:20:17] | raven: | sphery, tnx! |
| [20:21:00] | sphery: | great, enjoy! |
| [20:21:52] | mengo: | Hello, I'm looking for some knowledge on mythtranscode and HD recordings. Sometimes when I encode everything works fine, other times the encoding process happens at 1–2fps and seems to crash my mythbackend, any advise please? |
| [20:21:53] | raven: | not with this program here...... ;) but with mythtv its fun |
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| [22:55:54] | wagnerrp: | ZFS really slows down when you're reaching the end of the drive |
| [22:56:11] | wagnerrp: | running 20–30MB/s, down from 150MB/s |
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| [23:25:41] | givealittle: | hi all, I upgraded myth from 0.24 -> 0.26 and everything appeared to work, but then I realized that I can't record anymore. Front ends can still play live TV so tuners are working and schedules are showing correct listings |
| [23:26:04] | givealittle: | logs only indicate one line: mythbackend[31443]: I Scheduler scheduler.cpp:2650 (HandleRecordingStatusChange) Tuning recording: "Good Morning": channel 1007 on cardid 1, sourceid 1 |
| [23:27:00] | givealittle: | but it never records. The file doesn't exist and no errors (other than file 1007_20130805232200.mpg not found by players/stream are reported |
| [23:30:05] | Shadow__X: | givealittle: did you setup the storage groups? |
| [23:30:36] | givealittle: | Shadow__X, I had an existing setup in 0.24 using NFS |
| [23:30:58] | givealittle: | Shadow__X, but atm I'm using mythweb (which I checked for setup) on the backend to stream |
| [23:31:29] | givealittle: | I have another FE that can watch live TV so I know the tuners are working |
| [23:31:43] | givealittle: | and I can watch old (record on 0.24) recordings |
| [23:32:33] | Shadow__X: | givealittle: I am pretty sure mythtv switched to storage groups starting in .25 so you just have to re-setup your directories through storage groups |
| [23:33:44] | wagnerrp: | by 0.25, you mean 0.20 |
| [23:33:44] | givealittle: | Shadow__X, I just checked mythtv-setup, Default is set to correct directory of /var/lib/mythtv/recordings |
| [23:34:24] | wagnerrp: | or maybe 0.21 |
| [23:34:32] | wagnerrp: | either way, we've used storage groups for a long long time |
| [23:36:01] | givealittle: | any ideas where to go from here? Without errors I'm kind of lost |
| [23:36:01] | Shadow__X: | ah ok, nevermind then |
| [23:36:24] | Shadow__X: | givealittle: while watching tv tell it to record a show |
| [23:36:29] | Shadow__X: | maybe that will cause an error |
| [23:36:56] | givealittle: | it allows me to schedule recordings |
| [23:37:25] | givealittle: | and the listing then "appears" to be in the recorded programs, but the tumbnail is blank and I get the error that the file doesn't exist when I try to play |
| [23:37:51] | givealittle: | only errors in backend logs are that the file can't be found |
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