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| [01:00:37] | htpc: | Is there a way to have it import coverart from a file automatically, in a similar way to a mxml file? |
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| [01:23:16] | wagnerrp: | not at this time |
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| [04:41:10] | htpc: | I see an image tag in the mxml for coverart. I've tried pointing it to the absolute path and file://absolute/path |
| [04:41:25] | htpc: | There's really no way at this time? |
| [04:42:36] | htpc: | It seems to work if it points to a valid http: //some.site.com/foo. jpg |
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| [05:12:01] | htpc: | I tried file:///medieros/wine/abs/path/foo.jpg and it doesn't work either |
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| [06:32:03] | Captain_Murdoch: | htpc, for importing? does import copy the image or just store the location in the DB? |
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| [11:39:55] | lautriv: | some links aren't matching my real recordings, i see e.g. http://node002//mythweb/pl/stream/1035/1358532541 but there is no 1035_1358532541.mpg on all machines ? |
| [12:33:10] | trumee: | can somebody help me setup ir blaster. irsend: command failed: SET_TRANSMITTERS 1 returns irsend: hardware does not support sending |
| [12:35:01] | trumee: | this on gentoo. here is the post which gives the detail http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7364700.html#7364700 |
| [12:35:20] | trumee: | the receiver works fine, but the transmitter doesnt |
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| [13:16:36] | wagnerrp: | htpc: the MXML format does not properly support image attributes |
| [13:16:49] | wagnerrp: | it's merely the same format used for the metadata grabbers, which do support image downloads |
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| [13:26:36] | lautriv: | whab |
| [13:26:36] | cybrNaut: | i find no supported hardware that use the r820t tuner |
| [13:26:52] | cybrNaut: | has anyone tried the r820t tuner with mythtv? |
| [13:27:30] | lautriv: | cybrNaut, VID:DID/chip ? |
| [13:28:04] | cybrNaut: | lautriv: not sure what you're asking |
| [13:28:17] | lautriv: | lspci -n and tell us,b |
| [13:28:18] | lautriv: | p1 that |
| [13:28:34] | cybrNaut: | there are a few devices with a rtl2838, but they all have the fc00012 tuner |
| [13:29:08] | cybrNaut: | lautriv: i don't have any R820T tuners installed, so can't do a meaningful lspci |
| [13:29:16] | cybrNaut: | I would like to buy one though |
| [13:29:39] | wagnerrp: | why not buy one listed as supported by linuxtv instead? |
| [13:30:06] | cybrNaut: | wagnerrp: I want a device that is simultaneously compatible with the rtl-sdr project |
| [13:30:28] | wagnerrp: | why? mythtv expects dedicated hardware |
| [13:30:34] | cybrNaut: | IOW, I want to use mythtv and grab tv, and I also want to scan radio frequencies |
| [13:30:43] | wagnerrp: | it doesn't expect you to arbitrarily take it to start using for some other purpose |
| [13:30:54] | wagnerrp: | get one tuner and one toy |
| [13:31:02] | lautriv: | cybrNaut, myth does radio too |
| [13:31:08] | wagnerrp: | no it doesnt |
| [13:31:41] | lautriv: | wagnerrp, the audios on DVB work well |
| [13:31:55] | wagnerrp: | that's not radio, that's DVB without a video channel |
| [13:31:59] | cybrNaut: | wagnerrp: there certainly are devices that are supported by both mythtv and rtl-sdr already. I am just looking for more frequency range than the FC0012 tuner offers |
| [13:32:15] | cybrNaut: | I will settle for FC0012 if I must, however |
| [13:32:28] | wagnerrp: | mythtv doesnt support tuners (but for a few exceptions), it just supports the linux DVB API |
| [13:32:43] | wagnerrp: | and as mentioned, there's no reason to want a device that can both be used by mythtv, and by rtl-sdr |
| [13:32:58] | wagnerrp: | mythtv expects to be able to use that tuner when ever, and for whatever it chooses |
| [13:33:16] | wagnerrp: | it doesn't want you as a user grabbing it and using it externally for other purposes |
| [13:33:20] | cybrNaut: | wagnerrp: heh, you're trying to tell the customer what he wants – and you're wrong, to be blunt |
| [13:33:45] | wagnerrp: | no, i'm telling the customer what they should get to make the software happy |
| [13:34:08] | cybrNaut: | wagnerrp: a better option exists already than what you've pointed out |
| [13:34:37] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [13:34:39] | cybrNaut: | i need not buy 2 different hardware devices |
| [13:35:00] | wagnerrp: | it's either that, or one device that can do both actions simultaneously |
| [13:35:15] | cybrNaut: | the "Gigabyte U7300 " works on mythtv, and it also works with rtl-sdr |
| [13:35:28] | wagnerrp: | most tuners these days are "hybrids", meaning they only have one tuner and it can only be accessed for one use at a time |
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| [13:35:40] | cybrNaut: | ah, i see the confusion |
| [13:35:54] | cybrNaut: | by "simultaneously", i did not mean concurrent |
| [13:35:56] | wagnerrp: | so, you using it to play around with rtl-sdr means mythtv would lose access to it for its own uses |
| [13:36:23] | cybrNaut: | I don't mind if mythtv uses it at one moment, and then rtl-sdr uses it the next |
| [13:36:24] | wagnerrp: | mythtv works best when it has sole use of hardware it accesses, and is not competing with external ses |
| [13:36:26] | wagnerrp: | *uses |
| [13:36:37] | wagnerrp: | that's what i'm saying. mythtv does |
| [13:37:18] | cybrNaut: | does what? |
| [13:37:38] | wagnerrp: | care if you try to use its configured hardware |
| [13:38:11] | wagnerrp: | in fact, mythtv's typical behavior is to lock any digital tuners as soon as it starts, to prevent access to them from other software |
| [13:38:22] | cybrNaut: | i don't follow. If I shut down mythtv, there's no reason it should stop me from using rtl-sdr |
| [13:38:24] | wagnerrp: | you have to specially configure it to release such devices when not in use |
| [13:38:27] | cybrNaut: | and vice versa |
| [13:38:43] | wagnerrp: | that's the point, mythtv does not expect to be shut down externally |
| [13:38:58] | wagnerrp: | it expects to either always run, or be in control of when the machine turns on and off |
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| [13:39:42] | cybrNaut: | i should be able to kill all mythtv processes, and not have to worry about getting back control over the hardware |
| [13:39:55] | cybrNaut: | i have doubts that mythtv would have a problem with that |
| [13:40:18] | wagnerrp: | well you killed it, so it has no say in things regardless |
| [13:40:44] | cybrNaut: | and once it's killed, I should be able to use rtl-sdr |
| [13:40:45] | wagnerrp: | however it cannot reliably schedule television recordings if it cannot be certain those resources will be available when it wants it |
| [13:41:06] | cybrNaut: | this is not a technical limit, it's really about what chips are supported |
| [13:41:19] | htpc: | Captain_Murdoch: It seems to import the data in the file, then do a tmdb lookup. (for those in tmdb). For home movies, the coverfile field is blank. |
| [13:41:39] | cybrNaut: | indeed, if mythtv is not running, it cannot record scheduled programs.. that's my problem, and i'm okay with that |
| [13:42:03] | wagnerrp: | cybrNaut: i'm merely trying to suggest what behavior will make mythtv function best |
| [13:42:15] | ** lautriv wonders what the point of mythlogserver is ** | |
| [13:42:46] | wagnerrp: | lautriv: it's more intended for debugging than anything else. allowing those last few logs prior to a crash to make it to disk |
| [13:43:36] | lautriv: | wagnerrp, nothing that wouldn't be solveable with rsyslogd |
| [13:43:38] | htpc: | wagnerrp: Not supported? Hmmmm.... is that something that one could go into a source file and add? |
| [13:44:26] | wagnerrp: | htpc: it hasn't been done yet, as no one has decided the best way to handle it |
| [13:44:49] | wagnerrp: | since all video content and artwork is supposed to be in storage groups |
| [13:45:15] | wagnerrp: | do you try to handle artwork in the Videos storage group, or do you migrate any artwork the user has defined to the Artwork storage group |
| [13:45:18] | htpc: | wagnerrp: I'm just looking for a workaround until it's officially supported. |
| [13:45:44] | wagnerrp: | or if mythtv has created it itself, do you just assume the artwork listed in the MXML is going to be relative to the base of the Artwork storage group and import as-is |
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| [13:47:41] | htpc: | wagnerrp: Yeah, it is a bit confusing. I was surprised not to see a path in the db, but understand why with the storage groups and all. |
| [13:48:17] | lautriv: | ok, i refactored my storage-groups.....is there some command/button to force instant deletion of old recordings ? |
| [13:48:43] | wagnerrp: | no. all deletions are merely marked for deletion, and culled by the autoexpirer |
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| [13:49:29] | htpc: | wagner: So I'm trying to plan out an install of this thing. I have to sell the gf who just wants to keep comcast dvr, but then complains about not being able to export recordings like the vcr days. I agree, but to make that happen there must be change. Change requires a sell. To sell, I need it to look good. ;) |
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| [13:49:59] | wagnerrp: | recordings or videos? |
| [13:50:08] | htpc: | wagnerrp: videos |
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| [13:50:28] | wagnerrp: | there should be no need to export them. just use them as-is |
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| [13:50:38] | wagnerrp: | from the filesystem |
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| [13:50:50] | htpc: | I haven't bought a tuner yet, therefore no tv. I don't want to invest $$ in this unless everything else looks good |
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| [13:51:35] | htpc: | wagnerrp: sorry. I misunderstood. To export I am talking about recordings as well as transcoding some xvid, etc to dvd format (if possible) |
| [13:51:42] | htpc: | definitely the first |
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| [13:52:22] | wagnerrp: | with recordings, use something like mythlink.pl to create links with human-readable file names, and then use them from the filesystem |
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| [13:53:03] | wagnerrp: | there is mytharchive which will allow you to produce data DVDs (like xvid) or DVD formatted DVDs (not xvid) |
| [13:53:29] | wagnerrp: | although to be honest, DVDs are more of a hassle than they're worth |
| [13:54:00] | wagnerrp: | better to just get a little media player with some storage if you want to be able to play stuff portably |
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| [13:55:26] | htpc: | wagnerrp: Awesome. I'm not there yet though, I need to get the video collection looking nice, thus the attempt to get coverart in my videos via .mxml file |
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| [13:57:08] | htpc: | what file parses the mxml file? |
| [13:57:52] | wagnerrp: | should be something in mythtv/libs/libmythmetadata/ |
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| [15:06:28] | trumee: | wagnerrp, you use gentoo? |
| [15:06:34] | wagnerrp: | yes' |
| [15:07:06] | trumee: | wagnerrp, you have lirc blaster? |
| [15:07:12] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [15:07:47] | trumee: | wagnerrp, ok. was wondering if anybody has gotten transmitter to work at all |
| [15:08:17] | trumee: | perhaps, i should try some livecd which has lirc setup properly. is there any livecd like that? |
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| [15:09:18] | trumee: | any livecd (mythtv/xbmc) which has lirc setup by default? |
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| [15:27:43] | lautriv: | what about "E DVBRead mpeg/mpegstreamdata.cpp:360 (AssemblePSIP) Error: offset>181, pes length & current cannot be queried" |
| [15:32:39] | lautriv: | logs that crap 8 times a second while all backends are idle. |
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| [16:23:06] | trumee: | anybody knows what 2 tx ports (0x0 cabled) means in my dmesg |
| [16:23:13] | trumee: | mceusb 2–1.2:1.0: 2 tx ports (0x0 cabled) and 2 rx sensors (0x0 active) |
| [16:23:39] | wagnerrp: | means you have two transmit ports on the back of your receiver box, and neither of them have detected a cable |
| [16:24:03] | trumee: | wagnerrp, ah i see. i do have a cable connected to 1 of the port |
| [16:24:24] | wagnerrp: | that's just a guess |
| [16:24:31] | trumee: | wagnerrp, perhaps this is the reason that the irblaster is not working for me |
| [16:25:52] | trumee: | is there any windows xp software to test irblaster. I want to be sure about this before i contact the seller |
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| [16:27:18] | wagnerrp: | i'm sure hauppauge's tuner software can use it |
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| [16:28:19] | lautriv: | bah, my scripts to prevent mythbackend running crasy growing rapidly :( |
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| [16:38:18] | trumee: | wagnerrp, seems windows7 only, http://www.hauppauge.co.uk/site/support/support_all.html?prod=3 |
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| [16:58:41] | lautriv: | has there somewhere a debugging contest started ? |
| [16:59:25] | wagnerrp: | debugging contest? |
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| [16:59:58] | lautriv: | wagnerrp, yep, kinda injecting some bugs and the fast debbugger gets a fish. |
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| [17:02:02] | lautriv: | because it is unusual to see the backend running uninteruptible ( D state) and taking 1 minute for a bad request. |
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| [17:19:00] | lautriv: | wagnerrp, since the mythlogserver is meant for debugging (where it fails anyway) is there a way to not start it ? |
| [17:20:22] | wagnerrp: | no, it's automatically started by any mythtv process |
| [17:20:57] | lautriv: | bad idea :( |
| [17:22:01] | lautriv: | ... and redirected to NSA ? |
| [17:25:22] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [17:26:12] | lautriv: | because there is absolutely no reason for another wheel (logserver) each sane process tells syslog where those are used to spit useful output too. |
| [17:27:44] | lautriv: | wagnerrp, see i get "E DVBRead mpeg/mpegstreamdata.cpp:360 (AssemblePSIP) Error: offset>181, pes length & current cannot be queried" 8 times a second and all backends are idle, also a ton of "I thread_unknown" for the very-same versions. |
| [17:32:07] | wagnerrp: | the typical syslog server is only accurate to the second |
| [17:32:11] | wagnerrp: | we wanted better logs |
| [17:32:39] | wagnerrp: | plus syslog tracks the time the message hits syslog, not the time we generated the message |
| [17:33:27] | lautriv: | wagnerrp, the former error may be reasonal if i had asked for a stream and then it should mention at least the channel in question, the latter is bullshitting if the backend doesn't know it's own threads. both must not fill my logs. |
| [17:34:42] | wagnerrp: | the "thread unknown" means the thread did not identify itself when it spawned |
| [17:34:47] | wagnerrp: | it's a fault in the code that should be fixed |
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| [17:36:22] | lautriv: | i know what it means but that's another line in log which is growing fast, should at least default to "shutup your face, else i ask" |
| [17:37:02] | lautriv: | and why should an idle backend even try to stream something without beeing asked ? |
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| [17:47:58] | tgm4883: | lautriv, you can disable logging completely |
| [17:49:24] | lautriv: | tgm4883, since the mythlogserver is spawned internally, there is no config, let's the question about that error open which i would rather fix than supress. |
| [17:51:11] | tgm4883: | lautriv, true, if you aim is stopping mythlogserver from starting, then yea it's still and issue |
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| [17:59:20] | lautriv: | tgm4883, light idea why the offset error even appears before calling any request ? |
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| [21:45:57] | trumee: | wagnerrp, finally got my lirc receiver working!, http://forums.gentoo.org/posting.php?mode=quote&p=7364958 |
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| [22:23:36] | trumee: | wagnerrp, crap the irblaster doesnt work inside X. It only works in console (tty1) |
| [22:24:12] | wagnerrp: | i'm guessing it's more something to do with permissions than being run from within X |
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| [22:41:58] | lautriv: | trumee, how is it attached to the input ? |
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| [23:23:19] | trumee: | wagnerrp, lautriv, if i disable evdev, then irsend works from inside X |
| [23:23:56] | trumee: | wagnerrp, i am running both tty and inside X as root |
| [23:24:07] | trumee: | wagnerrp, so permission should not be the issue |
| [23:26:02] | wagnerrp: | so the issue is X is hooking onto the device, and preventing LIRC from accessing it |
| [23:27:42] | trumee: | wagnerrp, yes thats correct |
| [23:28:14] | lautriv: | trumee, i was about to tell you, had a similar issue with some usb-hid via IR, you need a rule to prevent it beeing claimed. |
| [23:28:42] | trumee: | lautriv, how do you do that? |
| [23:29:35] | lautriv: | trumee, let me see if i have still something around ... |
| [23:30:36] | trumee: | lautriv, thanks. i tried this which disables evdev, but didnt help. http://pastie.org/8204017 |
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| [23:33:17] | lautriv: | trumee, carefully check syntax, i had a whitespace before the vendor-name. (not my typo but there was one in the device) |
| [23:34:33] | trumee: | lautriv, was this the rule you were talking about? |
| [23:35:37] | lautriv: | trumee, part of, the disable like you wrote (but other device) and some udev b/c it had several devices on the same plug to map proper. |
| [23:36:30] | trumee: | lautriv, X log is showing that the device is ignored, but still it is being claimed |
| [23:36:46] | trumee: | lautriv, not sure if i need udev to do something |
| [23:37:18] | lautriv: | trumee, how is thingie physically attached ? |
| [23:37:25] | trumee: | lautriv, usb |
| [23:38:12] | trumee: | lautriv, the ir controller as seen here, http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/oriental-ho . . . df1.jpg.html |
| [23:38:38] | [R]: | start lirc befoer X |
| [23:38:40] | [R]: | problem solved |
| [23:39:11] | lautriv: | strange pic, HP receiver and Dell RC o.O |
| [23:39:35] | trumee: | didnt think of that. going to check that. be back in a bit |
| [23:39:55] | trumee: | lautriv, keep looking for your rules :) |
| [23:42:06] | trumee: | [R], nope didnt work :( |
| [23:42:48] | trumee: | [R], the ir device doesnt flash its leds |
| [23:43:06] | trumee: | when i issue the command inside X |
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| [23:47:01] | lautriv: | trumee, the udev was only to split keyboard and mouse-function |
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| [23:49:05] | trumee: | lautriv, can udev disable the creation of /dev/input/xxx for the ir device? |
| [23:50:04] | lautriv: | trumee, disable and/or create others or symlink but i'm no specialist for udev. |
| [23:51:00] | lautriv: | trumee, rule of thumb : identify unique by vendor/ID/whatwever and use +=symlink |
| [23:54:29] | lautriv: | trumee, you may also start some script or lirc with the device on hand, like this : |
| [23:54:33] | lautriv: | ENV{ID_VENDOR}=="your vendorstring here", ENV{ID_MODEL_ID}=="2626", ENV{ID_INPUT_KEYBOARD}=="1", RUN+="/command/to/lirc $name" where $name is filled with the device |
| [23:55:00] | lautriv: | where 2626 need to be replaced by your apropirate lsusb -n |
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