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Thursday, August 1st, 2013, 00:03 UTC
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[00:30:07] bill6502: dmfrey: I like the new Status Page. I was just about to write you to ask if Myth Mote was intentionally disabled. It must have been 'cause I tried it yesterday and it's working again.
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[00:34:22] dmfrey: yeah, i saw that and tom took care of it
[00:34:53] dmfrey: now it kinda flies in as well like google now, somewhat
[00:36:35] dmfrey: i really like how it is turning out
[00:37:43] bill6502: Me too. I'm still holding off on any serious testing 'til sidebar_menu is merged. Does that make sense to you?
[00:38:18] dmfrey: yes
[00:38:25] dmfrey: i was gonna email you about it
[00:38:29] dmfrey: i think we are getting close
[00:38:45] dmfrey: i have a couple of things i want to do with the guide yet
[00:39:07] dmfrey: and when espen gets the image viewer in there i think that will be it for this release
[00:39:30] dmfrey: you were still having the issue with the recording rules crashing?
[00:40:29] dmfrey: i thought i saw a way to turn off all the error logging from the Android Universal Image Loader as well
[00:40:39] dmfrey: should just be an attribute and I think i want to turn them off
[00:40:48] dmfrey: i don't care if an image isn't found on the backend
[00:41:04] dmfrey: and don't need the log clogged up with not found error messages
[00:42:33] bill6502: I think they're OK. I routinely go through the 4 DVR screens and Rules were OK yesterday. There's a new bug that prevents the DVR screen from opening (it just slides out 1/2 way.) I'll just be patient.
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[00:42:59] dmfrey: hmm i wonder what that could be
[00:43:01] dmfrey: i haven't seen it
[00:43:07] dmfrey: oh
[00:43:34] dmfrey: there was an issue with not redrawing the recordings on subsequent accesses
[00:43:38] dmfrey: but that is fixed now as well
[00:44:38] bill6502: My concern about the requesting images that don't exist would be for the folks with thousands of recordings and no images in the backend. It will spam their backend log.
[00:45:22] dmfrey: for the program guide i put in a toggle for downloading channel icons or not
[00:45:33] dmfrey: something like that work here too?
[00:46:27] bill6502: I can create a LogCat or open an issue if you'd like. Or I'll wait for the merge when things settle.
[00:46:56] dmfrey: bill6502, btw, we are broadcasting live now if you wanna listen: http://tllts.org/livestreaminfo.php
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[00:48:07] dmfrey: what issue is the logcat for?
[00:48:12] dmfrey: the images?
[00:48:18] dmfrey: or the half screen?
[00:48:39] bill6502: The 'half navigator menu'
[00:49:49] dmfrey: was it also trying to download a lot of images on your end?
[00:50:08] dmfrey: it shouldn't have interferred, but it possibly could have
[00:50:38] bill6502: could be, it just gets half way open and the app stops
[01:00:49] bill6502: dmfrey: Here's the LogCat (menu/DVR/slides out 1/2 way/Unfortunately MAF has stopped.) I'm running out to the store, but I'll leave this channel up.
[01:01:13] bill6502: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QPYu1k3E
[01:01:56] dmfrey: which device, which version
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[01:38:00] bill6502: Samsung Galaxy 10.1, Android 4.0.4, sidebar_menu, latest commit (mythtv-android-frontend-1.10.1-184-gf58a8f2), mythbackend 0.27-alpha-7-gb88f999
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[02:11:39] dmfrey: bill6502, i am gonna have to try that out in an emulator for 4.0.4
[02:12:01] dmfrey: i wonder if something was added we are not accounting for in older version of android
[02:17:00] bill6502: I was reviewing the latest commits and nothing stands out to me. But is just started sometime after e34b3aa1. Let me know if you want me to a git bisect (never tried it with eclipse.)
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[06:09:28] [R]: ffs, leapcast rocks my socks off
[06:09:32] [R]: but chrome refuses to use vdpau
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[09:10:55] lux3_: hi
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[10:03:35] lux3_: does someone know where i can find the list with the boards supported by nvram-wakeup? i tried rtc wakeup but can't get it to work :/
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[16:47:40] lucidium: I'm trying to watch Live TV through a RTSP VOD stream served up by VLC, and it works fine for about 60 seconds or so then it times out. The Live TV internal player doesn't appear to keep the stream alive properly, since VLC can play the VOD stream indefinitely with no issues, what is wrong with the internal TV player?
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[16:51:13] mark2013: This 'puter is Ubuntu 12.04. I have run: sudo aptitude install mythtv. Aptitude ran and now, this moment, on screen in my terminal is a question about running MythTV on more than one "computer". I want MythTV to send a TV signal to both my computer monitor and/or the "smart" tv. Does the "smart" tv count as a "computer" for the purpose of answering this question?
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[19:20:29] trumee: Who is the most mythtv friendly provider of tv services in usa?
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[19:41:12] sphery: trumee: probably OTA :)
[19:41:40] sphery: as far as cable companies, though, it's likely Comcast (since they mark all but premium channels as "copy freely", so CableCARD is usable)
[19:42:16] trumee: sphery, good. how about satellite providers?
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[19:54:31] sphery: trumee: For US satellite providers, it's a toss up... You'll have to use analog encoding (HD-PVR or ivtv) for all of them, so not a lot of difference. However, note that some of them have "less-than-easy-to-use" STBs. Specifically, the dual-tuner DISH STBs tend to only allow RF-remote control of the 2nd tuner, so you can't get an IR transmitter to control it.
[19:55:38] trumee: sphery, wow DISH STBs are so crap
[19:55:39] sphery: also, I'd guess the "many-tuner" STBs (like the Hopper, with 3 tuners) and I think DirecTV has a 4- or 6-tuner one, may not be at all useful for MythTV, depending on outputs
[19:56:02] sphery: as far as the dish STBs go, you can buy a device to control the 2nd tuner
[19:56:09] sphery: it's like $50 or so
[19:56:52] trumee: sphery, i suppose a package deal for internet+TV from comcast will be the best for mythtv?
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[19:57:08] sphery: It's a "TV2 IR converter kit" from DISH
[19:58:01] sphery: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DISH-Network-TV2-IR-C . . . em2c5c0c9064 is one
[19:58:29] sphery: but I still stand by my assertion that OTA is the best provider for use with MythTV :)
[19:59:07] sphery: I am all OTA + buying DVDs/BluRays of cable-only shows I want to watch and happen to also have Amazon Instant Prime and Netflix Streaming
[19:59:17] trumee: sphery, i want to subscribe to some indian tv channels, so will have to go with a provider
[19:59:48] sphery: so, basically, the only thing left I can't get is ESPN, thanks to their "you can only watch us if you subscribe to a cable/satellite service that carries ESPN" bs
[20:00:18] sphery: I'd recommend talking to mythtv users in your specific area, but it's likely that comcast will be your best bet
[20:00:19] trumee: but there are some iptv providers (yupptv is one) which might be cheaper.
[20:00:49] sphery: iptv may actually be as hard as satellite, depending on how the provider implements it
[20:00:59] sphery: i.e. may require an STB + analog capture
[20:02:25] trumee: sphery, seems plenty of choices, http://www.yupptv.com/devices.aspx
[20:04:52] trumee: sphery, looks like anndroid dongle may be useful, http://www.yupptv.com/TVDongle/features.html
[20:05:32] ** trumee wonders if there is an hdmi input on any tv tuner card similar to analog card **
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[20:06:14] trumee: hdmi output of android dongle <>mythtv on PC, wonder if that is possible
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[20:41:58] trumee: sphery, how do you get internet?
[20:43:41] sphery: I have cable internet, but via Earthlink (so I pay the same for it as someone who gets the $10/mo discount for having cable TV service from the provider)
[20:46:05] sphery: and, fwiw, AIUI you will never be able to get any useful HDMI-input-capturing cards working in GNU/Linux due to encryption on the HDMI link
[20:47:19] sphery: see, for example, http://hauppauge.com/site/products/data_colossus.html and read it carefully
[20:48:15] sphery: you can record HDMI from PC gaming systems or Xbox 360 or PS3 (at least when they're doing gaming output), but you have to go back to analog (Component) for cable/satellite TV because of the HDMI encryption
[20:48:32] sphery: not to mention the fact that the Colossus doesn't (and, AIUI, can't ever) work in GNU/Linux
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[20:48:43] sphery: or at least won't ever?
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[23:08:22] lautriv: ok, i got some new errors to solve ( entered by upgrading ) , my master-backend appears to crash if a slave-backend _should_ be attached but before i will paste some "last words" of that scenario, i like to remove a crapload of this one from the logs : E DVBRead mpeg/mpegstreamdata.cpp:360 (AssemblePSIP) Error: offset>181, pes length & current cannot be queried, any ideas what the real iss ue may be ?
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