| Monday, July 29th, 2013, 00:14 UTC | ||
| [00:14:12] | ** neufeld does ** | |
| [00:14:28] | Korny: | hey wagnerrp that mini itx case you have, can you fit a "normal low profile graphics card in it? |
| [00:15:26] | neufeld: | wagnerrp: to get unhindered HTTP access from the office or from China, I have my home httpd configured as a proxy and SSL reflector, accepting connections from localhost. Then I use an ssh tunnel and direct my firefox to use the forwarded port. |
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| [00:22:45] | wagnerrp: | Korny: just using onboard intel |
| [00:23:04] | Korny: | wagnerrp, I'm looking at this http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-MIB-T5140-GZ-S . . . Z-SPIM51-P0B |
| [00:23:19] | wagnerrp: | neufeld: proxies are only for clients to reach out to a remote server, correct? |
| [00:23:33] | wagnerrp: | i mean, theres no reason why a listen socket would ever need to configure anything for a proxy, is there? |
| [00:23:40] | wagnerrp: | http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10633#comment:13 |
| [00:24:06] | wagnerrp: | korny: what do you do if you want to wall mount the TV? |
| [00:24:35] | wagnerrp: | or your TV's stand already uses the VESA mounts |
| [00:24:40] | Korny: | I didn't care about the mount |
| [00:24:46] | Korny: | I was looking at the case itself |
| [00:25:01] | lautriv: | Korny, i'm pretty sure it will NOT fit a low-prfile |
| [00:25:16] | wagnerrp: | oh, that IS a stand |
| [00:25:27] | wagnerrp: | it doesn't hang off the vesa mount with a separate stand |
| [00:25:31] | wagnerrp: | that's funky... |
| [00:26:04] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i don't like that |
| [00:26:28] | neufeld: | wagnerrp: yes, as I've configured it, it's a simple MITM, that lets me obscure the HTTP request leaving the client by sending it over ssh. There are caching proxies, but I haven't seen any reason to use one. If I'm at 'A', trying to view websites at 'C', using a proxy on 'B', then there's no reason that 'C' would have to do anything special to accept proxy connections. |
| [00:26:46] | Korny: | Well for a "kitchen" tv or something I think it would be usefull |
| [00:27:06] | wagnerrp: | but it doesn't make sense why QTcpServer would automatically configure a proxy |
| [00:27:20] | wagnerrp: | and it honestly doesn't make sense _what_ it might be configuring for a proxy |
| [00:27:53] | wagnerrp: | Korny: i'd rather stuff the computer in a cabinet, and have the monitor fold up flush with the bottom of the cabinet |
| [00:28:01] | Korny: | True |
| [00:28:06] | wagnerrp: | so i could clean off the counter top, or otherwise use the room if needed |
| [00:31:01] | neufeld: | wagnerrp: I wouldn't see why a TCP server would automatically configure a proxy. A proxy is for outbound connections. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that bug report, trying to understand what's being said. |
| [00:32:18] | htpc_: | When i check the logs for game metadata lookup (which isn't working) I noticed it's calling /usr/share/mythtv -l en -M METRIOD, but /usr/share/mythtv is a directory. It seems like it should be calling /usr/share/mythtv/metadata/Game/giantbomb.py -l en -M METROID |
| [00:32:59] | wagnerrp: | go into Setup --> Artwork and Data Sourecs |
| [00:33:19] | wagnerrp: | ah! |
| [00:33:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, there is none set, so you're just running the output of GetShareDir() |
| [00:33:50] | wagnerrp: | why is it not picking up giantbomb as a viable data source... |
| [00:34:28] | wagnerrp: | is mythgame not properly installing it? |
| [00:35:11] | wagnerrp: | oh, i don't have mythgame installed on this machine |
| [00:35:28] | wagnerrp: | htpc_: anyway, go there, and select giantbomb on the third row |
| [00:35:40] | htpc_: | ah.. ok. Thanks |
| [00:37:23] | neufeld: | wagnerrp: If I'm reading the manual page correctly, which may not be the case, QtNetworkProxy is not a proxy server/service, it's a redirector. It makes the client use a configurable proxy. Why that would interfere with listen sockets locally is a good question. Seems you can run into issues, though, if your Qt isn't enabled for IPv6, and the socket wants to set itself up for IPv6. Does that sound plausible? |
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| [00:39:13] | htpc_: | wagnerrp: to answer your question: mythgame sets it correctly, but I had to resave it in the menu for it to take effect. |
| [00:39:50] | htpc_: | Thanks! It's not detecting |
| [00:39:55] | htpc_: | It's NOW detecting |
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| [01:01:12] | htpc_: | What's is the crc field used for? Is it used to lookup the rom? |
| [01:16:04] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [01:16:26] | wagnerrp: | crc32 is a hash function used to identify a file uniquely |
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| [01:35:34] | Korny: | uggg when did ram prices go up so much |
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| [01:38:29] | wagnerrp: | like 5 months ago |
| [01:42:03] | Korny: | is 4 gigs enough for a front end using an on chip video card? |
| [01:43:49] | RagingMind: | Korny, mine works with 2G and an ancient intel video chip |
| [01:49:45] | Korny: | Looks like 883 used 867 cached |
| [01:49:53] | Korny: | On my atom with 2 gigs |
| [01:50:12] | Korny: | 250 toward the video card |
| [01:50:43] | Korny: | so 2 gigs should be good |
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| [03:56:24] | Jonathan____: | I wondered if anyone could help me. I want to copy my keybindings from my old mythtv box to my new box but can't seem to figure out how. I'm newer to linux and appreciate any help. |
| [03:59:53] | wagnerrp: | you have your old database? |
| [04:01:41] | Jonathan____: | I still have my original mythtv box with the database in tact +wagnerp |
| [04:03:14] | wagnerrp: | all keybindings are stored in the database |
| [04:03:56] | Jonathan____: | How do I back up / pull just the keybindings to use on the new box? That's all I need to copy over +wagnerrp |
| [04:05:17] | wagnerrp: | better to just recover the whole thing |
| [04:06:51] | Jonathan____: | I've already set up the new mythtv with a different set of channels to record and I think swapping the database completely will mess it up. I just want to copy keybindings so my duplicate lirc remote will work the same as it did on the new one +wagnerrp |
| [04:07:10] | wagnerrp: | if you want the lirc bindings, those are in ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [04:08:17] | Jonathan____: | I don't need lirc bindings, I had gone into mythtv on my old database and changed specific keybindings to use the default lirc buttons on my remote. I'd like to instead of manually changing 20 keybindings inside mythtv to just copy over the same keybindings from my original mythtv if it's possible |
| [04:08:28] | wagnerrp: | nope |
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| [09:01:14] | MMlosh: | question: how does mythlogserver obtain DB credentials and when does it get started? |
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| [09:02:07] | MMlosh: | I found mine filling syslog with >50 lines per second |
| [09:02:19] | MMlosh: | (all unable to connect to DB because of bad password) |
| [09:11:38] | MMlosh: | .. I guess it was doing that, because it didn't terminate with the backend and kept using the wrong password |
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| [09:17:22] | Valen: | So i was using my TV as a spare monitor to debug some problems with another PC when I noticed on a pure white background I'm getting some burnin of the menu and the station logos |
| [09:17:43] | Valen: | now the menu (seek in the recording) i can move around |
| [09:18:28] | Valen: | the question however is, is there a filter or something similar I can drop over the (translucent) station logos to stop them from burning in to my relatively new plasma? |
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| [09:18:47] | Valen: | has anything changed on this front since 2006? http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/203279 |
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| [09:37:36] | lyricnz: | aaaargh! upgraded fedora and mythtv (using yum), worked OK day 1. Shutdown and rebooted, now all my recordings gone! |
| [09:38:00] | lyricnz: | everything seems to be working, just empty recordings, except for what recorded today |
| [09:38:17] | lyricnz: | any known issues in this area? any way to recover? |
| [09:40:49] | lyricnz: | can see lots of stuff in record_tmp |
| [09:44:16] | Valen: | do you have the recordings still in wherever they usually go? |
| [09:44:37] | Valen: | /var/lib/mythtv/recordings i think is generally the default, in debian based distros at least |
| [09:45:50] | lyricnz: | all the files are still there |
| [09:46:12] | lyricnz: | insert into record select * from record_tmp; // seems to have fixed it??? |
| [09:46:21] | lyricnz: | Did some DB upgrade fail? |
| [09:46:30] | lyricnz: | (I took DB backup before running that :) |
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| [10:18:48] | MMlosh: | wagnerrp, it turned out that debian/ubuntu packages are built with --disable-opengl-video |
| [10:19:03] | MMlosh: | and --disable-opengl |
| [10:19:16] | MMlosh: | I guess that explains why it didn't even try |
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| [10:27:01] | lyricnz: | how to diagnose a failed upgrade? keeps deleting everything from record table |
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| [11:01:23] | lyricnz: | (sorry, repeat – I got disconnected) how to diagnose a failed upgrade? keeps deleting everything from record table |
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| [11:05:09] | wagnerrp: | it's deleting your recording rules? |
| [11:07:26] | lyricnz: | not the rules, the recordings...? |
| [11:07:36] | lyricnz: | >> aaaargh! upgraded fedora and mythtv (using yum), worked OK day 1. Shutdown and rebooted, now all my recordings gone! |
| [11:07:48] | lyricnz: | still there on the disk, just not in the UI |
| [11:08:32] | lyricnz: | failed db schema upgrade? |
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| [11:14:40] | lux_2: | hi |
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| [11:14:55] | lux_2: | wagnerrp: are you there? i think i found a solution |
| [11:16:19] | lux_2: | is it possible to put mythtv on a laptop, connect a usb hub to hit, connect a usb stick and a 5400rmp usb harddisk to it and put the recordings on the usb disk and the mysql db on the usb stick? |
| [11:16:30] | lux_2: | s/hit/it |
| [11:16:53] | lux_2: | will i run into problems with that setup or will that work? |
| [11:18:05] | lux_2: | lautriv: what do you think? |
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| [11:19:43] | lyricnz: | I'd guess that you've have USB bandwidth issues, but might be OK with fast USB and laptop. Depends on a lot of things – channel bandwidth, your laptop architecture, etc. |
| [11:20:36] | lux_2: | lyricnz: it's a macbook core duo with usb2.0, will that work? |
| [11:20:43] | ** lyricnz shrugs ** | |
| [11:21:10] | lyricnz: | the usb disk would be the only issue, I guess. not sure if it's fast enough. |
| [11:22:21] | lux_2: | lyricnz: but i don't have to worry about the usb2.0 hub between the devices? |
| [11:22:49] | lux_2: | lyricnz: the disk runs at 34mb/s if the usb2.0 port is fast enough, that should work |
| [11:23:05] | lux_2: | lyricnz: so you think my setup will work? |
| [11:23:45] | ** lyricnz shrugs. Should do, but no guarantee ** | |
| [11:24:24] | lux_2: | hum ok. if anyone else knows for sure, please let me know |
| [11:25:06] | lux_2: | lyricnz: is a 16gb usb stick enough for the mysql db or do i need more space when running mythtv for some time? |
| [11:25:16] | lux_2: | bbl |
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| [11:40:26] | ** MMlosh doubts he would ever have enough recordings to make a 512M database ** | |
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| [11:59:00] | lyricnz: | aaaaaarghrghra |
| [11:59:05] | lyricnz: | lost all my recordings :/ |
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| [12:12:22] | MMlosh: | lyricnz, I thought you would back up all you can when trouble arrives |
| [12:12:44] | lyricnz: | I did as soon as I noticed, but it was all fine for a day or so after the upgrades. |
| [12:12:58] | lyricnz: | the files are all there, just recordings are not showing up in UI |
| [12:13:13] | lyricnz: | I looked for the automatic backups, hasn't done one in 2012 :/ |
| [12:13:19] | lyricnz: | since 2012 that is |
| [12:13:38] | lyricnz: | trying to see if I can reconstruct recorded from old recorded table now |
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| [12:30:33] | lyricnz: | SO unhappy! :( |
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| [13:23:03] | lux_2: | can someone tell me how large their mysql dir became? i would like to know how much space i need for a mysql db over a longer amount of time |
| [13:24:05] | lux_2: | what is taking up the most amount of space in the mythconverg db? the seektables? so the db will shrink again if i delete recordings? |
| [13:26:19] | lux_2: | oh, and what distribution would you recommend for running a master backend? i would use debian stable, but i'm not sure if it's up-to-date with latest mythtv. i just would like to have a distribution that's easy and safely to upgrade and that doesn't require updates so often |
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| [13:38:05] | lux_2: | is mythbuntu a good choice for running a mythtv master backend? |
| [13:41:45] | Dorward: | lux_2: I believe it is still on 0.25.x, but I'm happy with it. |
| [13:43:07] | lux_2: | Dorward: can i downgrade an existing 0.26 database to 0.25? |
| [13:43:18] | Dorward: | I have absolutely no idea. |
| [13:43:23] | lux_2: | is there anything i'll miss when going back to 0.25? |
| [13:43:48] | lux_2: | does anyone else know? i want to migrate my current 0.26 installation to 0.25 mythbuntu |
| [13:44:49] | lux_2: | is a 0.26 frontend compatible with 0.25 backend? |
| [13:48:30] | lux_2: | Dorward: is it possible to install 0.26 on mythbuntu? |
| [13:49:13] | Dorward: | lux_2: Yes. Just upgrade to it as normal. |
| [13:49:34] | lux_2: | Dorward: "as normal"? |
| [13:50:23] | Dorward: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-1.html#ss1.3 |
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| [13:51:09] | lux_2: | Dorward: that doesn't explain how to get the packages? |
| [13:52:07] | Dorward: | I don't know if anyone is distributing 0.26 binaries for Ubuntu, but the source is available from http://www.mythtv.org/download |
| [13:52:59] | lux_2: | Dorward: is it possible to upgrade mythbuntu lts to the next (non-lts) release? |
| [13:53:22] | sphery: | lux_2: Yes, assuming a TV-based installation, the seek tables will be the largest space usage for MySQL data. If you have a large Video Library (non-recordings video), you can actually have even greater usage for that. |
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| [13:54:38] | sphery: | lux_2: fwiw, my system has a seektable data of 451MB and index of 413MB, with 10TB of recordings (3mo, 10days, 12hr, 59min recorded video) |
| [13:55:18] | lux_2: | sphery: why is my db so big then? it's 109mb and i only have ~80gb of recordings |
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| [13:56:01] | lux_2: | nice amount of recordings btw, is you setup shared to other people? :) |
| [13:56:07] | lux_2: | your* |
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| [13:56:43] | sphery: | lux_2 / Dorward : and though Mythbuntu 12.04 (the LTS, which you should use) "ships" with 0.25, you should upgrade it to the current stable release (currently 0.26-fixes), as described at http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [13:57:22] | sphery: | no, just me... I set my system to record anything I might possibly ever want to watch, and either watch and delete shows or delete without watching (I never archive stuff) |
| [13:57:45] | sphery: | I set it to record every new series that comes on and after a season or 3, decide whether to watch it or just delete it |
| [13:58:43] | sphery: | and 109mb isn't necessarily "so big"... it's based on the time of recorded video, not the bitrate of it |
| [13:59:03] | sphery: | in mythweb, at the bottom of the recorded programs page, it shows how much time you have... what's yours show? |
| [13:59:21] | sphery: | and I'm assuming the 109 is actually all your tables (meaning all their data and all their indices)? |
| [13:59:37] | lux_2: | sphery: 2 days 3 hours |
| [13:59:51] | lux_2: | yep 109 is my msql directory |
| [14:00:20] | lux_2: | sphery: how much space does your complete mysql dir take? |
| [14:00:56] | lux_2: | (without binary logs) |
| [14:01:42] | lux_2: | i just want to know how much space i have to reserve for the mysql directory to be future-proof when the db grows from my recordings |
| [14:01:56] | sphery: | based on that, you should have about 1.1MB of recordedseek data and about the same for indices |
| [14:02:19] | sphery: | so, what do you see for recordedseek.* |
| [14:02:36] | lux_2: | sphery: how can i check? |
| [14:02:58] | sphery: | sudo ls -l /path/to/mysql/dir/recordedseek.* |
| [14:03:22] | sphery: | so, something like: sudo ls -l /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg/recordedseek.* |
| [14:03:42] | sphery: | (assuming the ugly placement I think most distros use) |
| [14:04:17] | lux_2: | yep it's in that dir |
| [14:04:38] | lux_2: | i have 3 files |
| [14:04:54] | lux_2: | 8.5k, 9.3m and 12m |
| [14:05:16] | lux_2: | that's way larger than 1.1mb, why is it so much bigger? |
| [14:05:36] | sphery: | as for my whole mysql mythconverg dir, it's 862MiB... and, again, my recordedseek is 827MiB |
| [14:05:47] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Optimize_mythdb.pl is why yours is so big |
| [14:05:50] | sphery: | you need to run that |
| [14:06:48] | sphery: | you can do it one time (with something like /usr/share/doc/mythtv/optimize_mythdb.pl ) or set it up on a cron that runs regularly (daily/weekly/monthly/...) at some time when it's unlikely that you'll be recording anything |
| [14:07:03] | sphery: | guessing at where the distro would have put the script |
| [14:07:35] | sphery: | see, also, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Period . . . the_Database |
| [14:09:45] | sphery: | fwiw, the script will generally work even if you're recording at the time, though it could cause I/O bottlenecks which can impact performance/corrupt some portion of a recording/... , especially on underpowered or misconfigured systems |
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| [14:13:15] | lux_2: | sphery: i'll try that script, thanks |
| [14:13:29] | sphery: | enjoy |
| [14:13:43] | lux_2: | sphery: now it's 104m, not really smaller |
| [14:14:03] | lux_2: | sphery: what's taking up so much space? |
| [14:16:05] | sphery: | lux_2: what does ls -l tell you? |
| [14:16:17] | sphery: | I'm guessing you have a relatively large Video Library, then? |
| [14:16:44] | lux_2: | mysql/mythconverg takes 58m, mysql/ibdata1 takes 26m, mysql/mysql 5m, and some logs |
| [14:16:58] | lux_2: | no i don't have a video library |
| [14:17:01] | lux_2: | aaah hold on |
| [14:17:23] | lux_2: | it could be my music library, it's ~45gb big |
| [14:17:34] | lux_2: | is it that then? |
| [14:17:42] | sphery: | ah, that would make sense |
| [14:17:49] | sphery: | 45gb of music would be a /lot/ of songs |
| [14:18:21] | sphery: | like > 10k songs, so that would be lots of space, too |
| [14:18:33] | sphery: | forgot music would do that, too |
| [14:18:53] | sphery: | anyway, gotta get some work done |
| [14:18:53] | lux_2: | sphery: how can i check if it's the music db? |
| [14:19:13] | sphery: | ls -l ... if it's music*, then it's the music stuff |
| [14:19:28] | sphery: | sudo ls -al /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg |
| [14:19:38] | sphery: | er, ls -l /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg |
| [14:20:00] | lux_2: | can't spot anything with ls -l mythconverg |
| [14:21:44] | lux_2: | logging.MYD seems to be the largest file |
| [14:21:54] | sphery: | well, that's the entire database, and you know 22MB is your seek tables, so the other 87MB must be in there somewhere |
| [14:22:46] | lux_2: | sphery: can i sort by size somehow? |
| [14:23:39] | sphery: | oh, and I had a factor-of-8 error in my sizing for your recordedseek stuff--so it's correct |
| [14:23:55] | lux_2: | ah -S sorts by size, nice |
| [14:23:56] | sphery: | (I was thinking I added up bits, but they were bytes) |
| [14:24:17] | sphery: | so, the 22MB is good for 51hrs of video |
| [14:24:24] | sphery: | good/right |
| [14:24:29] | lux_2: | 2 recordedseek files, both ~9mb |
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| [14:24:43] | sphery: | yeah |
| [14:24:53] | lux_2: | together ~18mb |
| [14:25:01] | lux_2: | that's normal? ok |
| [14:25:04] | sphery: | yep |
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| [14:25:24] | lux_2: | 2 logging files, 24m and 6m |
| [14:25:47] | lux_2: | and 2 program files, 10m together |
| [14:26:00] | sphery: | yeah, and those (and, really basically everything) will stabilize at the size you have, other than recordedseek |
| [14:26:18] | lux_2: | sphery: how big will the db get when i get to for example ~1tb of recordings? |
| [14:26:20] | sphery: | or, if you constantly add new music or new Video Library videos, those will increase the size of their data |
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| [14:27:21] | lux_2: | ok so only recordedseek will grow |
| [14:27:39] | lux_2: | i have 95gb of recordings |
| [14:27:55] | lux_2: | so 20mb*10=200mb |
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| [14:28:28] | sphery: | yeah, figure your current size ignoring seek tables is "base" size, then figure around 100MB of seektable per TB of recording (assuming HDTV MPEG-2 bitrates/key spacing) |
| [14:28:37] | lux_2: | that's not much, good, i already worried about the db taking up too much space |
| [14:28:43] | sphery: | so 180MB for 1TB of recordings? |
| [14:29:06] | sphery: | up to about 1GB for 10TB of recordings |
| [14:29:41] | sphery: | (basically, as you get more and more recordings, you can start to ignore the 80MB base size, because it becomes a negligible part of the overall) |
| [14:29:53] | sphery: | in other words, I don't think you'll have a problem |
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| [14:31:02] | sphery: | so you have 51hrs of video right now, but it's only 95GB? If so, that seems rather low bitrate for HDTV... I'm guessing it's analog encoding of sdtv? |
| [14:31:32] | sphery: | of so, yeah, it may be 200MB of seek data/indices per TB of recorded video |
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| [14:35:23] | sphery: | looks like a little more than 1MiB for every 3hrs of video, assuming key frames every 1/2 second |
| [14:35:44] | sphery: | that being MiB = 1024 * 1024 bytes |
| [14:35:50] | lux_2: | sphery: nope it's digital dvb |
| [14:36:04] | lux_2: | not hdtv, but sd?tv |
| [14:36:42] | sphery: | ok, just didn't seem big enough to be (good quality) HDTV |
| [14:37:10] | sphery: | anyway, figure 1MiB/3hrs and you can scale it from there |
| [14:37:17] | lux_2: | quality's ok imho, but not hdtv, yeah |
| [14:37:29] | sphery: | you're currently looking at about 2GiB/hr for your average bitrate |
| [14:37:48] | lux_2: | yep that seems right |
| [14:37:49] | sphery: | anyway, have to go get some work done |
| [14:38:00] | lux_2: | ok, thanks for the help |
| [14:38:23] | lux_2: | guess i'll set up a mythbuntu master backend soonish then :) |
| [14:38:28] | sphery: | good luck... and, really, if my excessive number of recordings is only a 1GB mysql data size, you probably shouldn't worry too much |
| [14:38:37] | lux_2: | yeah |
| [14:38:51] | sphery: | yeah, just make sure you enable the -fixes repo (and, really, I'd recommend upgrading to 0.26-fixes) |
| [14:39:02] | sphery: | again, http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos |
| [14:39:03] | sphery: | later |
| [14:39:05] | lux_2: | i wonder if my collection will grow as quickly as yours :) |
| [14:39:26] | sphery: | well, I started mine in 2004 :) |
| [14:39:43] | lux_2: | sphery: i want to migrate my current .26 setup to mythbuntu so i guess i need .26 anyways |
| [14:39:57] | lux_2: | or can you downgrade? |
| [14:40:04] | sphery: | and I try to delete stuff regularly (like whenever a show is cancelled or when it gets awful reception) |
| [14:40:12] | sphery: | can't downgrade |
| [14:40:18] | sphery: | so, yeah, you'd need 0.26-fixes |
| [14:40:26] | lux_2: | ok |
| [14:40:33] | sphery: | so just install the mythbuntu, enable the 0.26-fixes stable repo |
| [14:40:57] | lux_2: | or does 0.27 have exciting new features? :) |
| [14:41:00] | sphery: | then restore the full backup of your old system ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . ing_database ) |
| [14:41:09] | sphery: | 0.27 isn't released, yet |
| [14:41:16] | sphery: | and is meant to be more of a stability release |
| [14:41:23] | lux_2: | hum ok |
| [14:41:32] | sphery: | I'd recommend waiting until it's released, then upgrading to it |
| [14:41:51] | sphery: | (which is as simple as enabling the 0.27 stable repo, once 0.27 is released, on mythbuntu) |
| [14:41:51] | lux_2: | yeah, i don't have a 0.27 frontend anyways, would be a bad idea |
| [14:42:00] | sphery: | anyway, good luck |
| [14:42:10] | lux_2: | mythbuntu really seems like a nice distro :> |
| [14:42:25] | lux_2: | thanks, and thanks for the help :) |
| [14:42:37] | lux_2: | (again) |
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| [16:20:09] | lux_2_: | where can i set the recording rules? i want mythtv to record +5 min before and after every recording but i can't find the setting |
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| [16:25:22] | lux_2_: | ok i found the issue |
| [16:25:41] | lux_2_: | the default recording rule is still set to record +5min |
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| [16:25:52] | lux_2_: | but mythweb doesn't use the default rule |
| [16:26:22] | lux_2_: | how can i schedule a recording from mythweb that has +-5min recording time? |
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| [17:08:50] | sphery: | lux_2_: upgrade to current 0.26-fixes |
| [17:09:12] | sphery: | it uses the default recording rule to set defaults for new rules |
| [17:10:08] | lux_2_: | sphery: so in 0.26 i can't schedule recordings with +-5min recording time in mythweb but with -fixes i can? |
| [17:11:36] | lux_2_: | sphery: how can i get -fixes in archlinux? |
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| [17:58:43] | sphery: | lux_2_: no idea how to get it in arch |
| [17:59:02] | sphery: | can always just apply the patches to mythweb |
| [17:59:21] | lux_2_: | sphery: hum ok. well i might switch to mythbuntu anyways |
| [17:59:50] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 46358#546358 |
| [17:59:56] | lux_2_: | sphery: looks like i could build mythweb from aur |
| [17:59:59] | sphery: | both patches |
| [18:00:16] | sphery: | no need to build... it's not compiled |
| [18:02:10] | sphery: | you'd need to apply http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythweb/patch/?id . . . 723dcc77db84 and then http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythweb/patch/?id . . . bd7a750df7c1 |
| [18:02:18] | sphery: | order is important |
| [18:03:44] | lux_2_: | sphery: how and in what dir do i have to apply the patches? |
| [18:04:17] | sphery: | basically, just download the 2 patches, then cd to the main mythweb directory and: patch -Np1 -i /path/to/patch_file |
| [18:04:47] | sphery: | and it should then pre-populate the new-recording-rule page with the values from your default template |
| [18:05:04] | sphery: | you'll do the patch command 2x--once per patch file |
| [18:07:21] | lux_2_: | ok i applied the patches |
| [18:09:21] | lux_2_: | sphery: looks like it worked, thanks! :) |
| [18:40:40] | lux_2_: | is this hdd fast enough for recording 2 shows and playing one recording? http://geizhals.de/hgst-travelstar-5k1000-1tb . . . n#filterform i want to connect it via usb 3.0 |
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| [18:54:57] | dekarl: | MMlosh: I have 700MB of seek tables and 200MB of guide data in my database |
| [18:55:27] | MMlosh: | oh, seek tables. I forgot |
| [18:55:38] | dekarl: | plus 4GB logging but I have logging turned up all the time |
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| [18:57:04] | lux_2_: | dekarl: how many hours and how many gb recordings in what format do you have? |
| [18:57:38] | dekarl: | lux_2_: where can I see that? |
| [18:58:09] | lux_2_: | dekarl: du -sh /path/to/recordings and you can see hours in mythweb under recordings tab |
| [18:58:48] | lux_2_: | at the bottom left of the page with the recordings |
| [18:58:51] | dekarl: | 1009 Aufnahmen, belegen 3 TB (1 Monat 27 Tage 10 Std. 33 Min.) |
| [18:58:55] | lux_2_: | err bottom right |
| [19:01:14] | dekarl: | lux_2_: and 5GB for the database, need to add a gig or two for temporary files |
| [19:02:09] | lux_2_: | dekarl: what takes up so much space in you database? |
| [19:02:18] | dekarl: | lux_2_: 4GB of logs |
| [19:02:32] | lux_2_: | ah ok |
| [19:02:56] | dekarl: | the scratch space is needed for stuff that doesn't fit into the memory limits when joining data from multiple tables |
| [19:02:56] | lux_2_: | and how many minutes recording/ disk usage of recordings? |
| [19:03:14] | dekarl: | (20:58:54) dekarl: 1009 Aufnahmen, belegen 3 TB (1 Monat 27 Tage 10 Std. 33 Min.) |
| [19:03:38] | lux_2_: | lauter nerds mit vollen festplatten hier, ich merks schon :D |
| [19:04:07] | dekarl: | well I record "movies in HD that got a nice rating", it does add up :D |
| [19:04:10] | lux_2_: | i wonder how long it'll take until i use up so much space like others here too :D |
| [19:04:30] | dekarl: | and I've put a list of actors I like in for mythtv to look out for |
| [19:04:39] | lux_2_: | dekarl: how do you setup mythtv to record movies with good ratings? |
| [19:04:49] | dekarl: | lux_2_: just install TVWish and tell it to fill all the space |
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| [19:04:59] | lux_2_: | tvwish? |
| [19:05:01] | dekarl: | lux_2_: the hard part is getting guide data with ratings |
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| [19:05:14] | dekarl: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/TVWish |
| [19:05:21] | lux_2_: | where do you get ratings from? |
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| [19:05:44] | dekarl: | http://xmltv.spaetfruehstuecken.org/xmltv/ ;) |
| [19:06:48] | dekarl: | I'm not sure if epgdata has good ratings, though |
| [19:07:17] | lux_2_: | not really as far as i see |
| [19:07:48] | lux_2_: | dekarl: do i need to point xmtlv to that url or how is that imported into mythtv? |
| [19:08:24] | dekarl: | there is a grabber tv_grab_eu_egon for the site |
| [19:08:36] | dekarl: | (got to leave now, family time) |
| [19:08:50] | lux_2_: | dekarl: can i ask you questions later again? |
| [19:08:55] | dekarl: | the xmltv setup is the hard part. sure |
| [19:09:09] | lux_2_: | yep so far i'm using only eit epg |
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| [21:57:10] | lautriv: | so mythweb on debian tells me now : !!NoTrans: Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION '75': !!, i assume that's php-related ? |
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| [22:07:41] | dekarl: | lautriv: do the backend version and the version of mythweb match each other? There have been some reports where the backend got upgraded but mythweb was left on an old version |
| [22:08:42] | lautriv: | dekarl, the mythweb is on the master-backend which will always upgrade at the same time. |
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| [22:09:24] | lautriv: | dekarl, i had a similar issue where apache went from 2.2 to 2.4 but solved it, so actually there should be nothing around to break. |
| [22:09:47] | dekarl: | it was just an idea, as I've heard it multiple times |
| [22:10:59] | lautriv: | dekarl, i don't even complain about the suggestin, each one is welcome :o) |
| [22:11:07] | lautriv: | *ion |
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| [23:05:27] | lautriv: | dekarl, got disconnected, still around ? |
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