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| [01:11:24] | homebrewcider: | hi, okay, what am I NOT getting? On my Mythbuntu box, I'd like to be able to record movies into a folder called "Movies", say, Seinfeld into a folder called "Seinfeld". How do I do this please. I keep going round in circles. I'm not thinking straight, I'll screw it up. Do I make new folder in the recordings folder? Do I make a new recording profile? PLease help |
| [01:12:10] | [R]: | um, i think you make a storage group |
| [01:12:14] | [R]: | and then assign the recording to that storage group |
| [01:12:58] | wagnerrp: | homebrewcider: what you're not getting is that mythtv recordings are not really intended to be accessed from the filesystem |
| [01:13:15] | wagnerrp: | you access them through the application |
| [01:13:36] | wagnerrp: | if you want filesystem access, use something like mythlink.pl to produce human readable filenames in whatever directory you want |
| [01:13:38] | [R]: | that too |
| [01:13:49] | [R]: | wagnerrp: whatever happend to the fuse fs? |
| [01:14:01] | wagnerrp: | should still be more or less functional |
| [01:14:28] | wagnerrp: | only thing i can think that might have broken it would be logging changes |
| [01:15:35] | homebrewcider: | hmm, okay, not following |
| [01:15:49] | wagnerrp: | you want to record certain shows to certain directories... why? |
| [01:16:01] | wagnerrp: | i don't see the logic in doing so |
| [01:16:14] | wagnerrp: | the only reason to want to do so is so you can access them directly in other applications |
| [01:16:16] | homebrewcider: | make it easier to find the ****** later on |
| [01:16:27] | wagnerrp: | you find them through the application, not the filesystem |
| [01:16:37] | homebrewcider: | sick of wading through 20130402002102205220222 type filenames |
| [01:16:49] | wagnerrp: | well that's what mythtv gives you |
| [01:16:53] | homebrewcider: | when I want to copy of to another computer |
| [01:17:18] | wagnerrp: | if you want to copy them off, use something like mythlink.pl to generate nice human-readable symlinks |
| [01:17:23] | wagnerrp: | and then copy the symlink targets off |
| [01:17:58] | wagnerrp: | the 20130402002102205220222 type filenames are nasty, incomprehensible filenames because you are never supposed to be using the directly |
| [01:18:14] | wagnerrp: | it's convenient for the program to use something that is guaranteed to not be a duplicate filename |
| [01:18:25] | wagnerrp: | it's not supposed to be convenient for the user |
| [01:19:13] | [R]: | isn't there some export program? |
| [01:19:20] | homebrewcider: | wouldn't what [R] suggested just be easier? |
| [01:19:39] | wagnerrp: | what specifically are you referring to? |
| [01:19:54] | wagnerrp: | [R]: mythbuntu has their mythexport application |
| [01:20:05] | [R]: | i thought there was one that came iwht myth |
| [01:20:10] | wagnerrp: | other than that, there's a bunch of user jobs for exporting to various locations |
| [01:20:12] | wagnerrp: | mytharchive? |
| [01:20:15] | [R]: | maybe |
| [01:20:19] | wagnerrp: | nuvexport? |
| [01:20:57] | homebrewcider: | hmm, I'll go dig |
| [01:21:35] | wagnerrp: | homebrewcider: what [R] suggested with separate storage groups, and forcing certain recording rules to certain storage groups, would allow you to put recordings into named directories |
| [01:21:49] | wagnerrp: | but they're still going to end up with the same incomprehensible numeric filenames |
| [01:22:09] | homebrewcider: | that's enough for me |
| [01:22:20] | homebrewcider: | I "GET" why they're named like that |
| [01:22:32] | homebrewcider: | just narrowing it down will be enough for me |
| [01:22:36] | wagnerrp: | like i mentioned, look at mythlink.pl |
| [01:22:49] | wagnerrp: | give it some custom formatting string, give it a directory |
| [01:22:54] | wagnerrp: | and it will generate nice filenames for you |
| [01:23:08] | wagnerrp: | you can even run it multiple times against multiple directories with different formatting strings |
| [01:23:14] | homebrewcider: | give mythlink.pl a directory? |
| [01:23:29] | wagnerrp: | yes, a directory within which it should generate symlinks |
| [01:23:40] | wagnerrp: | the symlinks have whatever naming format you define using the formatting string |
| [01:23:44] | wagnerrp: | and point back to the recording files |
| [01:24:06] | wagnerrp: | when you copy them, just tell whatever file copy utility you're using to dereference the symlinks and copy their target |
| [01:24:22] | homebrewcider: | all my recordings are in one folder, so, you're telling me, it will rename past recordings into whateer format I choose? |
| [01:24:30] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [01:24:43] | wagnerrp: | it will create new symlinks to past recordings in whatever format you choose |
| [01:24:54] | wagnerrp: | the recordings themselves will remain in their existing location |
| [01:25:06] | homebrewcider: | yeah, that's what I meant to say |
| [01:25:13] | homebrewcider: | chose my words badly |
| [01:25:42] | wagnerrp: | it is the recommended way to access recordings through the filesytem |
| [01:25:53] | homebrewcider: | dereference symlinks? |
| [01:26:13] | wagnerrp: | a symlink is a reference to a file |
| [01:26:19] | wagnerrp: | when you dereference the symlink, you get the file |
| [01:26:31] | homebrewcider: | what I want to know is, could something like Krusader just copy it from A to B? |
| [01:26:44] | wagnerrp: | basically, it means a special copy mode that is copying the target of the symlink, rather than the symlink itself |
| [01:27:04] | wagnerrp: | any decent POSIX file browser should have such an option for handling symlinks |
| [01:27:22] | wagnerrp: | and if you're using windows over samba, samba will do the referencing transparently for you |
| [01:27:57] | wagnerrp: | i don't know what Krusader is |
| [01:28:01] | wagnerrp: | sounds like some KDE application |
| [01:28:29] | wagnerrp: | indeed it is |
| [01:28:55] | wagnerrp: | i know in Konquerer, if you right-click drag-and-drop, it gives you a couple options of what you want to do with it |
| [01:29:06] | wagnerrp: | including the option to copy the symlink, or the target of the symlink |
| [01:29:14] | wagnerrp: | Krusader should have something similar |
| [01:29:28] | homebrewcider: | ok, might give it a shot |
| [01:29:33] | homebrewcider: | fingeres crossed |
| [01:29:41] | homebrewcider: | what's the worst that can happen, lol |
| [01:29:44] | homebrewcider: | cheers |
| [01:29:53] | wagnerrp: | nothing, it's just a symlink |
| [01:30:04] | wagnerrp: | worst case, you wipe the symlink directory and your recordings remain untouched |
| [01:30:41] | homebrewcider: | so I just run that script like detailed here? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythlink.pl |
| [01:31:03] | wagnerrp: | yep |
| [01:31:12] | wagnerrp: | it does have a default formatting string built in |
| [01:31:16] | wagnerrp: | or you can feed it your own |
| [01:31:20] | homebrewcider: | ok, wish me luck |
| [01:31:21] | homebrewcider: | lol |
| [01:31:24] | homebrewcider: | thanx |
| [01:31:30] | wagnerrp: | most people run it through cron, or through the events system |
| [01:31:36] | wagnerrp: | rather than running it manually |
| [01:32:13] | homebrewcider: | I'm off to give it a shot |
| [01:32:15] | homebrewcider: | thanks |
| [01:33:20] | homebrewcider: | run this on the backend, huh |
| [01:33:50] | wagnerrp: | anywhere you have filesystem access to the recordings |
| [01:34:28] | wagnerrp: | so you can run it on another machine, if you have your recordings mounted in the same location on that machine |
| [01:35:20] | homebrewcider: | ok |
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| [01:45:57] | homebrewcider: | "command not found" |
| [01:57:06] | homebrewcider: | never mind, got it |
| [02:00:50] | homebrewcider: | this is interesting, it did half of them |
| [02:02:19] | homebrewcider: | once again, never mind |
| [02:02:21] | homebrewcider: | lol |
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| [02:37:53] | papertigers: | Does anyone know what format the infinitv outputs. Is it an mpeg2 stream? |
| [02:39:25] | [R]: | its whatever comes in to it |
| [02:39:49] | wagnerrp: | meaning whatever your cable company sends it as |
| [02:39:58] | wagnerrp: | there is no reprocessing by the tuner or mythtv |
| [02:40:15] | wagnerrp: | as far as i know, all US cable companies use MPEG2 |
| [02:41:07] | wagnerrp: | IPTV and satellite services often use MPEG4, but i believe cable is restricted by an industry standard |
| [02:41:17] | wagnerrp: | iptv and satellite are largely unregulated, and free to do whatever they please |
| [02:43:12] | papertigers: | yeah thats what I'm trying to figure out. |
| [02:46:30] | papertigers: | wondering if the rasp pi xvmc pvr stuff can handle the stream from an infinitiv 4 |
| [02:46:53] | papertigers: | youtube videos suggest it handles hdhomerun stuff just fine |
| [02:47:10] | wagnerrp: | with the additional MPEG2 codec unlock, in theory |
| [02:47:11] | [R]: | the hardwre isn't changing the stream |
| [02:47:12] | [R]: | so... |
| [02:47:42] | wagnerrp: | of course issues with hardware limitations will impact the rest of the application independent of video decoder |
| [02:48:14] | papertigers: | [R]: yeah which is why I was trying to figure out what stream it was coming in as. Now I know its whatever the cable provider is sending |
| [02:52:23] | papertigers: | wagnerrp: I've already been using the pi for xbmc and 1080p content. That works well, only the interface is a bit sluggish at times |
| [02:52:39] | wagnerrp: | lack of CPU, lack of memory |
| [02:52:45] | wagnerrp: | no way around it besides a more capable unit |
| [02:53:47] | papertigers: | yeah but I can deal with a slow menu as long as the video is flawless. And it has been |
| [02:53:59] | [R]: | what about a rpi cluster |
| [02:54:01] | [R]: | like 10 of them |
| [02:54:04] | [R]: | is that equal to 1 normal computer? |
| [02:54:38] | wagnerrp: | probably need about a hundred |
| [02:55:17] | [R]: | lol |
| [02:55:34] | wagnerrp: | ten would get you like a 2004-era computer |
| [02:57:11] | papertigers: | What are you guys using for front ends out of curiosity |
| [02:57:24] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend? |
| [02:57:34] | wagnerrp: | or do you mean hardware wise? |
| [02:57:44] | papertigers: | yeah |
| [02:57:51] | papertigers: | hardware |
| [02:58:35] | [R]: | wagnerrp: well if i went back in time with 10 rpis... i'd be a god |
| [02:59:05] | wagnerrp: | dual core 1.8GHz opteron (test box), dual core 2.6GHz Ath64, dual core 3.3GHz i3, quad core 2.7GHz i7 (laptop) |
| [03:01:01] | papertigers: | Well since I already have the pi and the mpeg2 license from before I will give that a try before exploring other options |
| [03:01:17] | papertigers: | can't really beat a $35 frontend thats super tiny |
| [03:01:28] | wagnerrp: | well... if it works... |
| [03:01:55] | ** wagnerrp has never liked relying on hardware encoding ** | |
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| [03:02:39] | wagnerrp: | still invalid? i thought i patched that issue out... |
| [03:04:08] | papertigers: | if it works, great! then I have basically a $35 thin client to tuck away behind my tvs |
| [03:04:36] | wagnerrp: | s/thin/fat/ |
| [03:04:46] | wagnerrp: | if it runs software, its fat |
| [03:04:58] | [R]: | lol |
| [03:04:58] | wagnerrp: | thin clients are just a terminal to display software run remotely |
| [03:05:29] | wagnerrp: | it's not a description of physical size, but of function |
| [03:05:29] | papertigers: | :) |
| [03:05:35] | papertigers: | agreed |
| [03:06:06] | [R]: | that's what she said? |
| [03:06:34] | wagnerrp: | it's not the size that matters, but what it does |
| [03:06:56] | papertigers: | but technically a thin client relies on another server to handle the complex stuff….so I would argue the mythtv backend serving to a pi would be a thin client setup |
| [03:08:20] | wagnerrp: | what computer doesn't? |
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| [03:08:32] | wagnerrp: | every PC accessing a web server falls under that definition |
| [03:09:03] | papertigers: | not really, because they run a lot more software then just a specific client |
| [03:09:21] | papertigers: | maybe a chrome laptop fits that description since its just a browser for the most part |
| [03:09:38] | wagnerrp: | most PCs these days serve as little more than a browser |
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| [11:55:28] | StevenR: | ok. So. mythtv seems to be convinced that it's recording something... but I can't play the recording |
| [11:55:42] | StevenR: | it says that the file can't be found in the logs |
| [11:55:51] | StevenR: | "should be local but can't be found" |
| [11:56:02] | StevenR: | It did this for alot of shows yesterday |
| [11:56:12] | StevenR: | How do I make it actually record stuff and not lie to me? |
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| [12:22:47] | Tobbe5178: | did the backend create a file at all for the recording and is its size >0 ? |
| [12:23:13] | Tobbe5178: | if it did not create any file or the size is zero, you probably have some problems with your card setup |
| [12:28:36] | StevenR: | Tobbe5178: you're right. Can't watch live tv for some reason. Just get a signal of 7% and S/N of 1.7dB |
| [12:29:09] | StevenR: | hmmm. I wonder if they re-tuned the transmitter again |
| [12:29:24] | Tobbe5178: | shutdown the backend then run mythtv-setup |
| [12:29:29] | ** StevenR nods ** | |
| [12:29:36] | Tobbe5178: | check your card config and channel setup |
| [12:29:39] | Tobbe5178: | then retry |
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| [12:39:04] | StevenR: | hrrmph. No channels found. |
| [12:43:53] | Tobbe5178: | it helps to have channels first :) |
| [12:44:10] | Tobbe5178: | bad antenna connection? |
| [12:44:25] | Tobbe5178: | or interference? |
| [12:44:29] | StevenR: | Tobbe5178: yeah. I removed them and re-scanned. Just trying a scan on my laptop using kaffiene |
| [12:45:02] | Tobbe5178: | usb stick tuner? |
| [12:45:16] | StevenR: | yeah |
| [12:45:28] | Tobbe5178: | some need firmware to boot properly |
| [12:45:31] | StevenR: | I've got two in my mythbackend |
| [12:45:34] | Tobbe5178: | and this is not always included |
| [12:45:43] | Tobbe5178: | ok |
| [12:45:46] | StevenR: | it's worked before in this laptop |
| [12:45:53] | StevenR: | none of this is new :) |
| [12:46:03] | StevenR: | nope, no channels |
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| [13:27:05] | StevenR: | Tobbe5178: looking like an antenna problem. Thanks for the suggestions |
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| [14:37:33] | wagnerrp: | SteveGoodey: seems you've been largely replaced by an outright ban of hotmail/outlook.... :P |
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| [14:39:20] | ** wagnerrp pokes SteveGoodey ** | |
| [14:40:04] | SteveGoodey: | That's worked a treat. When did you put that in place? |
| [14:41:17] | wagnerrp: | right about the start of the log... http://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/4/2013-07-06 |
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| [15:19:44] | kkek: | I'm having problems setting up my ACPI auto wake in mythtv. I've tested (by manually setting /sys/classes/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm) that my computer can wake when the RTC alarm is set, but I can't seem to be able to get mythtv to properly set it. |
| [15:19:52] | kkek: | I'm using mythtv 0.25, and mythwelcome. In mythtv's backend setup, I've got the set wakeup time, shutdown, and pre-shutdown commands set to "mythshutdown --setwakeup $time", "mythshutdown --shutdown", and "mythshutdown --check". |
| [15:20:30] | kkek: | Mythwelcome's commands are my custom /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh, and shutdown -h. I added some logging to my /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh, and it never seems to get called (although my machine does shut down when mythwelcome is not locked). /var/log/auth.log also doesn't indicate any permissions errors with my sudo settings... any ideas? |
| [15:22:20] | kkek: | oh, and if I call my /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh by hand, and then shutdown the computer, it does auto-power back on. |
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| [17:37:13] | Tobbe5178: | how do you fix mythweb so it doesnt display !!NoTrans all over the place? |
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| [17:37:46] | Tobbe5178: | it probably have something to do with the upgrade i did to latest apache & php |
| [17:37:53] | Tobbe5178: | but dont know how to fix it |
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| [17:50:55] | kkek: | additional info for the ACPI wake problem I posted earlier today (the time not getting set correctly from mythtv). If I call "mythshutdown -t", and "sudo mythshutdown --shutdown" by hand (roughly equivilent to commands that should be run by mythtv on shutdown), the alarm timer is correctly set. A log of the relevant configuration settings is at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5853194/ |
| [17:52:14] | kkek: | so it appears that either the mythshutdown --setwakeup is not getting called, or mythshutdown --shutdown is not getting called (although since the machine does self power off, and I don't see any traces of the old default shutdown -h now in the database, that seems unlikely)... ideas? |
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| [18:06:23] | bill6502: | kkek: Did you note that: MythShutdownLock is set to 1 (preventing shutdown) |
| [18:07:30] | kkek: | yeah, I've got it locked so it doesn't shutdown on me while I'm debugging :) |
| [18:08:28] | kkek: | the machine successfully shuts down (when its unlocked) on idle, but the wake time does'nt get set (and my logging I've added to /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh indicates its never called) |
| [18:10:21] | bill6502: | If you don't have it set, mythbackend --setverbose system and mythbackend --setloglevel debug *may* give you more clues why something isn't working. Or you could just start the BE with those flags. |
| [18:12:38] | kkek: | fair enough... I'm not sure when the command to set the wake time (from the backend) is supposed to get called... I just scheduled a test recording for 14:30 (its 14:10 local time), and the wake time didn't get updated in the database... I'll try it with more verbose output and see if anything jumps out at me... do you know if scheduling a recording should have triggered mythshutdown --setwakeup to be called? |
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| [18:20:32] | kkek: | I must not be doing this right.... I called service mythtv-backend stop, and then tried to run "/usr/bin/mythbackend --syslog local7 --user mythtv --setverbose system", but it errors out that it cannot connect to the backend (almost as if its trying to not run as the master)... how do you start the BE with more verbose output by hand? |
| [18:21:56] | bill6502: | If calling from the command line, then it's -v system --loglevel debug (the set commands are used on an already running BE.) |
| [18:22:10] | kkek: | ah |
| [18:22:11] | kkek: | thanks |
| [18:24:10] | kkek: | still nothing in the backend about setting the wake time on scheduling |
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| [18:25:18] | kkek: | I do see it calling mythshutdown --check (i set the idle time really low to help debug this) |
| [18:25:53] | bill6502: | Not sure I understand the "on scheduling" commend. I don't expect scheduling a recording to set the wakeup time. |
| [18:26:07] | bill6502: | *comment |
| [18:27:07] | kkek: | I guess i don't understand when the wakeup time would be set... I would have expected the scheduler to set the time after each scheduling run to the soonest event that needs to occur |
| [18:27:18] | kkek: | apparently thats not how it works though |
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| [18:28:05] | kkek: | do you know when the wakeup time is supposed to get set? |
| [18:28:08] | bill6502: | Rignt, if the check says shutdown, you'd see the wu time set and then the shutdown. |
| [18:28:44] | bill6502: | Looking back in the logs, you mention mythwelcome. Full disclosure, I don't run mythwelcome. |
| [18:29:41] | kkek: | ah... if thats how it works, let me try changing the actual shutdown command to something like "true", and see if the wakeup command runs when it attempts to power off the system |
| [18:38:01] | bill6502: | kkek: Old example from my logs (without -v system etc) http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=E0GsYrU4 |
| [18:53:08] | kkek: | that makes more sense... it looks like it might be a timezone issue where times are getting passed on the command line in localtime, and then the check for whether or not the alarm needs to be set (in mythshutdown) is checking UTC, determing that the wake is in the past, and shutting down without setting the time |
| [18:53:39] | kkek: | I'm going to try just changing the system to use UTC across the board, and see if that fixes it. |
| [18:53:43] | kkek: | Thanks for the help! |
| [18:58:34] | kkek: | actually, even easier would be to just scrap mythwelcome/mythshutdown for the scheduled wakeup (and use the backend directly for that) and just keep welcome/shutdown for the actual act of shutting down (or delaying because of a manual lock) |
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| [23:20:32] | bean: | Greetings Room. Requesting help with setting up mythtv. I keep getting the mysql timezone error, even after running tzinfo_to_sql and checking the database for 1000+ timezones. |
| [23:21:10] | wagnerrp: | you mean mythtv is still complaining the timezone information does not exist, and is refusing to update the schema? |
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| [23:32:16] | bean: | I'm trying to run mythbackend or mythtv-setup but neither work. both stop and complain about missing mysql timezone support |
| [23:32:51] | wagnerrp: | when you ran that command, it created a block of SQL that could be used to insert timezone information into the database |
| [23:33:03] | wagnerrp: | did you actually then feed it into the mysql client to insert it? |
| [23:33:35] | [R]: | you nkow, i had a really hard time gettin the tiemzone stuff working in osx |
| [23:34:31] | wagnerrp: | i believe there is a pre-compiled block of SQL for Windows users who don't have an olson database handy |
| [23:38:02] | bean: | thanks for helping, wagnerrp. hmmm, please elaborate on the "block". my output for mythtv-setup is http://pastebin.com/Lh7DTErL |
| [23:38:41] | bill6502: | bean: Did you use/follow this: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MySQL_Time_Zone_Tables |
| [23:38:51] | skd5aner: | hey guys... |
| [23:38:58] | wagnerrp: | what i mean is that running that command does not update the database |
| [23:39:04] | wagnerrp: | all it does is generate a string |
| [23:39:22] | wagnerrp: | you then feed that string into the `mysql` command line client to actually update the database |
| [23:40:41] | skd5aner: | besides MythTV, TivoToGo, and Tivo Multi-Room Viewing – what other DVRs or other apps would be impacted by The "Copy Once" CCI flags via cablecard devices like the HDHR-Prime? |
| [23:41:18] | wagnerrp: | all of them? |
| [23:41:23] | skd5aner: | such as? |
| [23:41:45] | wagnerrp: | oh, you mean cable DVRs traditionally don't allow access to content |
| [23:41:47] | skd5aner: | It's not an issue for Windows Media Center, for example – it can play back copy once material |
| [23:42:00] | wagnerrp: | WinMCE only encrypts content if it is marked for DRM |
| [23:42:11] | wagnerrp: | copy freely content can be exported out of MCE |
| [23:42:54] | bean: | @bill6502, I did indeed, thanks. running "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM mysql.time_zone_name;" shows 1738 rows. I followed all steps, howtos, wikis and examples but I have no idea what to do now. I have installed mythtv successfully before with no database issues. |
| [23:43:13] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: For example, an HDHR prime with a cablecard attached to a provider that only has channels marked as Copy Once is pretty much worthless – but on WMC, it can play back Copy Once Material |
| [23:43:14] | wagnerrp: | bean: mythtv checks for a 'UTC' time zone |
| [23:43:23] | wagnerrp: | it's possible your system doesn't have one |
| [23:43:44] | wagnerrp: | i know FreeBSD has an 'Etc/UTC', but no 'UTC' |
| [23:43:52] | wagnerrp: | i had to copy one to the other, and rerun the command |
| [23:44:08] | bean: | @wagnerrp, interesting, I'll look into it. I'm certain I'm set for UTC as it is. |
| [23:44:19] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: but that content can only be played on that machine and extenders attached to it |
| [23:44:28] | wagnerrp: | it cannot be played on any other PC or device |
| [23:44:39] | wagnerrp: | same as TIvoToGo |
| [23:44:45] | wagnerrp: | with copy protected content, neither work |
| [23:45:10] | skd5aner: | yea, my question is... |
| [23:45:55] | skd5aner: | What products are basically incapable of leveraging it at all, such as MythTV |
| [23:46:01] | skd5aner: | I know of three... |
| [23:46:10] | wagnerrp: | any software DVR that is not WinMCE |
| [23:46:20] | skd5aner: | lol |
| [23:46:28] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: Looking for an inclusive list, not an exclusive one |
| [23:46:36] | skd5aner: | at least a couple of other examples |
| [23:46:42] | wagnerrp: | us, freevo, gbpvr, ... |
| [23:47:01] | skd5aner: | Any "big" players? Bigger than MythTV? |
| [23:47:11] | wagnerrp: | not that i'm aware of |
| [23:47:19] | skd5aner: | TivoToGo/Tivo Multi-Room Viewing is the only bigger example I'm aware of |
| [23:47:23] | wagnerrp: | we're really the big DVR software, behind MCE |
| [23:48:03] | skd5aner: | anything in the android/iOS space that tries to access content from an HDHR Prime/Ceton device?? |
| [23:48:17] | skd5aner: | Is freevo even alive anymore? |
| [23:48:29] | wagnerrp: | i know silicon dust has some streaming client |
| [23:48:42] | wagnerrp: | i'm not sure what the consequences of DRM'd content for it are |
| [23:48:54] | bill6502: | bean: FWIW, when I count the rows, I get: 1769. Does: SELECT CONVERT_TZ('2012-06–07 12:00:00', 'UTC', 'America/New_York'); return a reasonable value |
| [23:48:56] | skd5aner: | the one that comes as part of the embedded testing suite? |
| [23:49:17] | skd5aner: | yea, it's definitely impacted.... even on windows, it won't let me tune to 0x02 channels |
| [23:50:07] | wagnerrp: | ugh... i don't want to do laundry, but i do want to have clothes to wear to work tomorrow |
| [23:52:23] | bill6502: | bean: Or, better: SELECT CONVERT_TZ(NOW(), 'SYSTEM', 'UTC'); that's what DBUtil::CheckTimeZoneSupport does when the check is done. |
| [23:53:05] | bean: | @bill6502 Thanks. Both queries return correct values. |
| [23:56:17] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I bring it up because my current cable provider loves to flag nearly everything as 0x02 copy once |
| [23:56:32] | skd5aner: | makes my HDHR Prime basically worhtless – so, I want to write them about it |
| [23:57:36] | [R]: | wagnerrp: just go naked |
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