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Wednesday, July 3rd, 2013, 00:03 UTC
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[01:07:02] J-e-f-f-A: Ugh... I haven't touched my system in a while, other than periodic updates to the latest -fixes – and the last day or two I've been experiencing my backend shutting down- with this in the logs – any ideas what the ___ to look for??? "2013-07–02 20:59:12.819093 I MythEvent: SYSTEM_EVENT MASTER_SHUTDOWN SENDER mythbackend"
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[02:04:38] J-e-f-f-A: I dunno... had hundreds of .ts files in the temp hls directory which was taking up 7GB of space... cleared them out and things are working ok now...
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[02:45:11] k-man: out of interest, how is .27 coming along?
[02:46:16] wagnerrp: frozen
[02:46:28] k-man: oh cool!
[02:51:38] k-man: hmm – i currently build mythtv from source but I'm thinking to go back to using the .debs
[02:51:54] k-man: mainly because I don't have the time to manage building from source any more
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[03:15:41] Baylink: wagnerrp: Is .27 a decent upgrade from .23-fixes? or should I take an intermediate step?
[03:16:10] wagnerrp: you should be able to upgrade directly
[03:16:22] wagnerrp: there shouldn't be a need to stop mid-way during the upgrade
[03:16:59] wagnerrp: also, we did have a "too much storage" bug a while back
[03:17:10] wagnerrp: but that was a signed 32-bit issue in the autoexpirer
[03:17:42] wagnerrp: people running 32-bit systems with more than 2TB of free space would find the autoexpirer going nuts and deleting everything
[03:18:43] Baylink: Well, we're 32 bit, and have 7–9 TB depending on what's mounted.
[03:19:14] wagnerrp: not just available, it has to be free space
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[03:19:20] wagnerrp: rather, not total
[03:19:43] Baylink: Ah
[03:20:06] Baylink: Yeah; nothing's ever got free space on our box; Parkinson would love us.
[03:20:28] wagnerrp: if you have over 2TB free, it flips negative, and the autoexpirer deletes everything in sight until you hit 4TB free and it goes positive
[03:20:34] Baylink: Aha
[03:20:40] wagnerrp: also note, that's 2TB free on a single partition
[03:20:50] Baylink: Yeah
[03:20:56] wagnerrp: so until recently, it's really only affected people with RAID arrays
[03:21:02] clever: ive run into similar problems with snmpd/cacti on 32bit, it cant graph the free space
[03:21:17] Baylink: Well, when I'm dicking about with things that have that much free space, backend is generally down anyway.
[03:21:22] clever: my newest drive is 4tb, in a single unit
[03:22:07] clever: its stuck at -2147483648 bytes free
[03:22:33] wagnerrp: i'm surprised you have a drive controller that can handle a 4TB drive
[03:22:42] clever: onboard sata
[03:22:57] Baylink: I have 2 3Ts and I had to put in a SIL to even see them.
[03:23:02] clever: but its still running the same nfsroot as the old P2 myth box, lol
[03:23:22] Baylink: I'm very depressed the 15 slot HP shelf can only handle 2T total per volume.
[03:23:34] wagnerrp: i doubt my old C2D desktop could handle one
[03:23:42] wagnerrp: i'm certain my old opteron backend could not
[03:23:42] clever: model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
[03:24:03] clever: this is what i put the 4tb into, it was mostly just a matter of where i had a free sata port, it doesnt fit in the case yet
[03:24:28] clever: so far, its only 25% full, need to finish cleaning out the old drives
[03:24:47] wagnerrp: i didn't think the controllers on old pre-EFI boards would support larger than 2TB
[03:24:55] wagnerrp: or was it just that you could not boot from them?
[03:25:19] clever: no sign of efi on any of my systems, and that box was already nfsrooted
[03:25:24] clever: havent tried booting from it
[03:25:38] clever: was faster to just add the mac to a whitelist, then to do a fresh install
[03:28:02] clever: i did have problems with the 4tb drive and a usb adapter
[03:28:08] clever: it would show the model info, but fail to read the size
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[10:18:51] Guest10957: Hello there, mythTV user number Fedora 18 LXDE Spin here.
[10:19:27] Guest10957: I wish to solve a problem I'm having with mythTV 0.26–8. Could anyone help?
[10:20:14] Guest10957: On certain DVB channels I get a "Error Jump to Program File"
[10:20:41] Guest10957: The channel loads, Locks a signal and then returns me back to the main menu with this error.
[10:21:29] Guest10957: mythfrontend log reports "Taking too long to be allowed to read.."
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[10:22:55] Guest10957: RingBuf .. Taking too long to be allowed to read.
[10:23:33] Guest10957: Took more than 10 seconds to be allowed to read, aborting.
[10:23:44] Guest10957: Peek() requested 2048 bytes, but only returning 0
[10:24:06] Guest10957: Could not read first 2048 bytes of ...
[10:24:23] Guest10957: JumpToProgram failed.
[10:24:37] Guest10957: Unknown recorder error, exiting decoder.
[10:24:59] Guest10957: Those were the error messages I am getting.
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[10:35:01] jayvee: can you play those DVB channels directly with, say, VLC?
[10:35:39] Guest10957: Yes I can play them with VLC.
[10:45:22] Guest10957: If I can give any more info the problem is with the Radio channels on the DVB-T multiplex.
[10:45:56] Guest10957: The TV channels on the same MUX do also work in mythTV.
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[10:46:25] Guest10957: So should I put a special setting for these Radio channels in mythTV?
[10:47:10] Guest10957: I have seen these very same channels work in the past, albeit intermittently.
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[11:17:45] wagnerrp: is it possible those channels only exist at certain times of the day?
[11:18:09] wagnerrp: in theory, mythtv is supposed to report a failed lock, and allow you change to some other channel before dropping you back to the menu
[11:18:18] wagnerrp: but that seems to be one of those behaviors that keeps breaking
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[11:27:35] Guest10957: Those channels are broadcasting/live all day. I receive a Lock, around 200KB in one of the buffers then Error Jump to Prog File.
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[12:08:27] Dec64: After reading thru the wiki am i right in belving that any USB tv tuner's on a mac will not work with MythTV?
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[14:20:27] cheri: hi I have added a onboard encoder card in mythtv. The card is supported by v4l2. I am not able to record when I do some scheduling. Can anyone help me on this.
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[15:17:08] seandoobie: Hello all, I am getting a tuning error while attempting to start mythbackend
[15:17:34] seandoobie: 2013-07–03 11:06:21.019318 I V4LChannel(/dev/video0): SetInputAndFormat(1, NTSC) (v4l v2) input_switch: 0 mode_switch: 0
[15:17:35] seandoobie: 2013-07–03 11:06:21.019339 E V4LChannel(/dev/video0): GetCurrentChannelNum(73): Failed to find Channel
[15:17:35] seandoobie: 2013-07–03 11:06:21.019350 E Channel(/dev/video0)::Tune(73): Error, failed to find channel.
[15:19:15] seandoobie: Is any-body in there?
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[15:22:47] seandoobie: jpabq_ do you have experience with failed tuning in mythtv?
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[15:49:27] sphery: seandoobie: what kind of capture device?
[15:50:09] sphery: cheri: what capture device
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[16:51:04] seandoobie: It's the SABRENT TVFM (saa7134)
[16:51:18] seandoobie: Was at lunch, sorry for late response.
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[17:04:43] sphery: seandoobie: and you actually have an NTSC source?
[17:05:01] sphery: and you actually want to use a frame grabber?
[17:05:18] seandoobie: +sphery: yes, my input is a dish netowrk box through coax
[17:05:45] seandoobie: all i need is access to channel 73
[17:06:04] sphery: if you're using an external tuner, you need to set it up properly
[17:06:16] seandoobie: which i've set up, but mythtv doesn't seem to be able to tune my card
[17:06:49] sphery: you don't tune to any channel, at all, with the tuner in the capture device because it just receives whatever is given to it over composite or S-Video
[17:07:33] sphery: or, if you actually have the dish box set to output via (the worst possible output you can have,) coax, then it almost definitely outputs on channel 2 or 3
[17:07:41] seandoobie: I'm not using S-video or composite because the dish network reciever offers only a coax output
[17:08:12] seandoobie: so the coax cable is connected to the coax input of my PCI-based sabrent tvfm
[17:08:32] sphery: and in that case, you wouldn't specify any channel to tune, but would use the setting, "Preset tuner to channel," to 2 or 3
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[17:08:57] sphery: and you /must/ have a valid "External channel change command" script specified and it /must/ return success (i.e. exit 0 at the end)
[17:09:51] sphery: and you should use the "Fetch channels from listings source" when setting up the channels
[17:10:07] seandoobie: the external channel change command is only for changing stations on the reciever, correct?
[17:10:24] sphery: see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 for how to clear out existing configuration and the general approach for setting up channels
[17:10:53] sphery: but, yeah, because of your setup, you'd have to use external channel change command to send a command to the external receiver to tune the desired channel
[17:11:08] sphery: and if you don't have that script, yet, use something else that returns success--like /bin/true for testing
[17:11:12] seandoobie: right, but I still can't tune to my preset channel, which is hurdle one.
[17:11:15] sphery: and you must do the preset tuner part
[17:11:19] sphery: it's not 73
[17:11:25] seandoobie: indeed it is.
[17:11:54] sphery: what makes you think so
[17:11:57] seandoobie: it's an odd setup, the dish reciever server 2 tvs with one infrared remote (ch 3) and one UHF remote (ch 73)
[17:12:00] sphery: I've never heard of one that's not 3 or 4
[17:12:08] sphery: (thought 2, but it's actually 3 and 4)
[17:12:40] sphery: you do realize you can't change the channel on the UHF side of that from your computer, unless you have some very special equipment, right?
[17:12:47] seandoobie: yes, yes
[17:13:08] seandoobie: thats not at issue here, i just want to be able to tune my card with mthtv
[17:13:29] sphery: well, I'd have to guess it's not configured correctly--otherwise it should tune without a problem
[17:13:44] seandoobie: i will pastebin the error I get
[17:13:51] sphery: the logging you posted specifies it's /not/ doing the pretune
[17:13:57] sphery: but is doing a "normal" tune
[17:14:02] sphery: i.e. it doesn't know it's using an external tuner
[17:14:06] sphery: so reconfigure them
[17:15:17] sphery: so the 2 most-important settings are external channel change script and pretune channel
[17:16:46] seandoobie: I'm not sure I understand what you mean, sorry.
[17:18:03] seandoobie: i need an external channel change script to change the sabrent channel?
[17:19:06] sphery: no, an external channel change script to change the dish channel
[17:19:18] sphery: and need a preset tuner specified to change the sabrent channel
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[17:20:24] sphery: and, fwiw, if you can specify what channels to use for outputting on the dish device, you'd be /much/ better using one below channel 69
[17:20:41] seandoobie: for quality purposes?
[17:20:41] sphery: as anything higher than that doesn't really exist (is only valid in cable's extension of NTSC freq tables)
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[17:21:34] sphery: you don't have to worry about interference when you have more than a couple channels in between--they don't overlap like wifi channels
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[17:21:54] seandoobie: when i use 73 as a preset channel, it still can't tune to it.
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[17:22:11] sphery: might be because it's not part of ntsc channel list?
[17:22:25] sphery: try something lower
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[17:25:39] cheri: +sphery, its bluecherry bc-h16480A
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[17:27:03] seandoobie: hmm, thanks for your help, i wish i was at home to turn on my genesis to try ch 3 -_-
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[17:40:11] Baylink: QUERY: 0.23-fixes with storage groups: is the full pathname of the media file *not* stored anywhere in the DB? It doesn't seem to be there, and yet we only seem to see "gotta go hunt for this" when we've moved something behind its back.
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[17:42:31] tgm4883: Baylink, only the filename is stored
[17:42:43] tgm4883: Baylink, technically, the storage group that it is in is stored as well
[17:43:32] tgm4883: Baylink, I'm not sure why you would want to have it store the full path
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[17:48:53] Baylink: It's not that I wanted it, I merely assumed it didn't conduct a full search on every open.
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[17:56:44] tgm4883: Baylink, I could be wrong, but I don't think it performs any search when you open mythvideo
[17:56:50] tgm4883: only after you "scan for changes"
[17:56:56] Baylink: No, no, normal recordings.
[17:57:06] tgm4883: ah
[17:57:39] Baylink: An upgrade may be pending; we're having long-in-the-tooth problems lately...
[18:03:57] Muzer: to the crown
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[18:46:40] smoothifier: i've been playing around with 0.26 in a Fedora 19 vm. Things seem to be working okay except for mythweb which fills the screen with !!NoTrans: <every element here>!! I can't seem to get better error information. Perhaps there is a setting in php.ini i could set?
[18:47:16] smoothifier: FC 19 is now using php 5.5 which i'm sure isn't helping things.
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[19:02:56] sphery: Baylink: it's not much of a search--it's just checking a few directories for a specific file when you open the recording (no looping over every file looking for a specific one or anything)... it's one of the least inefficient parts of starting playback
[19:03:59] sphery: Baylink: and the benefit it provides--the ability to move any recording to any directory in any storage group on the host--is well worth a few ms on playback start
[19:04:46] sphery: (and, really, the storage group that's stored with the recording isn't where it's located, but which storage group the recording rule that matched the episode was set to use)
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[19:11:20] smoothifier: it looks like there is an issue with the translation of the labels (used for different languages?) The labels glossary seems to be present but the function is failing to translate it.
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[19:26:25] Baylink: sphery: Oh, I'm fine with it; I merely didn't know it already worked that way.
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[19:34:57] smoothifier: ok, here's the pastebin for the root page. I'll put a post on the list, too. # Customized config for MythTV baseline
[19:35:00] smoothifier: bind-address=0.0.0.0
[19:35:03] smoothifier: skip-external-locking
[19:35:05] smoothifier: key_buffer_size = 64M
[19:35:08] smoothifier: tmp_table_size = 32M
[19:35:10] smoothifier: table_cache = 256
[19:35:13] smoothifier: query_cache_limit = 3M
[19:35:15] smoothifier: query_cache_size = 32M
[19:35:18] smoothifier: # Set Base Innodb Specific settings here
[19:35:20] smoothifier: innodb_flush_method = O_DIRECT
[19:35:23] smoothifier: innodb_file_per_table = 1
[19:35:25] smoothifier: innodb_file_format = barracuda
[19:35:28] smoothifier: innodb_max_dirty_pages_pct = 90
[19:35:30] smoothifier: innodb_lock_wait_timeout = 20
[19:35:33] smoothifier: innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit = 2
[19:35:35] smoothifier: innodb_additional_mem_pool_size = 16M
[19:35:38] smoothifier: innodb_buffer_pool_size = 128M
[19:35:40] smoothifier: innodb_thread_concurrency = 8
[19:35:43] smoothifier: # Logging Options
[19:35:45] smoothifier: log-queries-not-using-indexes
[19:35:48] smoothifier: log_error
[19:35:50] smoothifier: long_query_time = 5
[19:35:53] smoothifier: log_slow_queries = /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log
[19:35:55] smoothifier: general_log_file = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log
[19:35:58] smoothifier: general_log = 1
[19:36:00] smoothifier: log_error = /var/log/mysql/error.log
[19:36:01] smoothifier: http://pastebin.com/KiyVv8r1
[19:36:04] smoothifier: binlog_do_db = include_database_name
[19:36:06] smoothifier: damn sorry about taht
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[19:44:20] justinh: barracuda is a valid innodb file format? :-O
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[19:44:48] justinh: heh apparently it is
[19:45:33] justinh: shame I'm my work's closest thing to a MySQL expert, and I'm leaving in a couple of weeks
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[19:52:27] smoothifier: hehe yeah, well there's my mysql tweaks for anyone who needs them :)
[19:52:33] smoothifier: (was from the wiki)
[19:54:41] justinh: thread concurrency.. that should only be 8 if you have 4 CPU cores though, right
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[20:05:24] smoothifier: justinh: probably. i happen to have 4 cores on that machine. i haven't looked at those settings in a while.
[20:06:12] smoothifier: they increased my throughput dramatically. something in there worked wonders.
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[21:38:26] mark2013: Where is the tv signal? On BE current local and master IP: 127.0.0.1
[21:38:26] mark2013: All storage, Default or LiveTV is: /home/mark/myth-recordings with user:group as mark:mark and permission user:read & write, group:read & write
[21:38:26] mark2013: Capture card IP: 169.254.133.181
[21:38:26] mark2013: Scan for channels returns nothing found
[21:38:26] mark2013: Frontend sees: General Settings / Directories that hold videos as: /home/mark/myth-recordings (same as backend)
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[21:38:29] mark2013: Network Connection Manager shows eth0 as: 169.254.4.60, b'cast add as: 169.254.255.255 and Subnet Mask as:; 255.255.0.0
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[22:10:48] wagnerrp: ugh....
[22:10:58] wagnerrp: spout a whole bunch of gibberish and then leave
[22:11:04] wagnerrp: a good way to get help
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[23:21:10] k-man: airplay often fails to play for me – even for mp3 audio
[23:21:31] k-man: the iDevice says its outputting to the mythtv airplay device but no audio comes out
[23:21:47] k-man: where does the frontend log to by default? (in .26)
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[23:27:45] wagnerrp: k-man: same place as always, the terminal
[23:29:20] k-man: wagnerrp, thanks
[23:29:29] k-man: restarting the frontend seems to have fixed it
[23:30:11] k-man: i should modify my startup scripts so it defaults to keeping logs of the frontend
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