| Wednesday, June 19th, 2013, 00:03 UTC | ||
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| [00:30:19] | RagingMind: | sphery, that'll effect the channel scan too? |
| [00:34:38] | sphery: | RagingMind: yes, it mainly affects the channel scan--as that's the only time when we actually wait for the timeout |
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| [00:35:23] | sphery: | when you have a valid channel defined, the timeouts shouldn't ever hit since you'll tune right to where you should and get a good tuning and good signal as quickly as your card allows |
| [00:36:02] | RagingMind: | I've noticed that it takes my card a while when I turn on livetv to get a lock |
| [00:36:13] | sphery: | so, really, I keep my timeouts maxed (and don't think it has any effect, whatsoever, on my Live TV channel change times--though I don't use Live TV much at all, so feel free to do some real testing) |
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| [00:36:37] | sphery: | right, and if your card takes a while to get a lock, you'll definitely need high timeouts or it will give up too soon |
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| [00:53:39] | RagingMind: | sphery, THANKS! that's exactly what I was looking for. just didn't think to look in the right spot |
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| [00:55:31] | sphery: | hehe, yeah, finding the spot for the configuration you need to do is often the challenge with mythtv |
| [00:57:09] | RagingMind: | oh yeah... and on that exact note. once upon a time I had changed the default jump forward/backward times, but after doing a new install I can't seem to locate that setting again |
| [01:01:55] | sphery: | RagingMind: in Playback Groups (not Playback Profiles)... Somewhere in frontend settings, like Utilities/Setup|Settings|Video|Playback Groups or something |
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| [01:23:49] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you around? |
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| [01:55:10] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah |
| [01:57:23] | wagnerrp: | is there any way to "deactivate" channels? |
| [01:57:41] | sphery: | closest is to set them to not visible |
| [01:57:47] | wagnerrp: | leave them in there so it doesn't orphan recordings referencing them, but make them not show up in mythweb? |
| [01:58:27] | sphery: | won't really orphan recordings--all it does it make their channum/call sign appear incorrectly in the display Watch Recordings, etc |
| [01:58:44] | wagnerrp: | right, no way to prevent that? |
| [01:58:44] | sphery: | you'll end up with #<chanid> instead of call sign or channel number stuff |
| [01:59:13] | wagnerrp: | maybe i should put in some routine in mythweb to only show channels connected to an available tuner |
| [01:59:37] | sphery: | well, having channels that aren't connected seems to cause some serious issues |
| [01:59:51] | sphery: | like, everything works great for 6 months, then one day your system stops recording |
| [02:00:28] | wagnerrp: | oh? i've had an time warner source in my database from my old apartment that i haven't had tied to a tuner since 2007 |
| [02:00:48] | sphery: | the best fix would be to store information we don't want to lose with the recording data, itself |
| [02:01:11] | sphery: | so that channels--which change over time--don't have an impact on previous recordings |
| [02:01:45] | wagnerrp: | except when you want to intentionally change the channel name |
| [02:02:00] | sphery: | I haven't had it happen myself (as I don't keep dead channels--and don't care if it shows #1003 or whatever, especially since I watch and delete) |
| [02:02:00] | ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1003 ** | |
| [02:02:33] | sphery: | but have seen other people with that type of configuration and all worked fine for a while then one day just stopped |
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| [02:03:17] | sphery: | I figured it was some kind of issue with what data we get from mysql and in what order |
| [02:04:07] | sphery: | as far as wanting to intentionally change channel call sign on existing recordings or whatever, it's easy enough to offer to change them when you change the channel |
| [02:05:18] | sphery: | but too many people are leaving no-longer-used-by-active-recorders garbage in their configurations just because "I recorded this 5 years ago when I lived in a different state and had different channels and I feel I need to see KONG to this day to know exactly what that recording is" |
| [02:06:27] | sphery: | (of course, now people are going to move and say, "Wait, this show aired at 9pm, but now it says it aired at 12pm, which isn't part of primetime, so it confuses me!" when they move from east coast to west |
| [02:06:36] | sphery: | so I'm sure people will start editing their db's for that, next) |
| [02:06:52] | wagnerrp: | i don't need to see it, i just think its a bit messy |
| [02:07:11] | sphery: | anyway, I think we should encourage keeping only useful channel configuration in the DB and store the data we actually want to "stick" with the recording as part of the recording data |
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| [02:07:58] | sphery: | agreed, it's messy to have #<chanid> |
| [02:08:14] | sphery: | but I'd rather fix it than make users work around the current approach :) |
| [02:09:04] | sphery: | fwiw, it's been on my todo for a while |
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| [02:11:57] | sphery: | would be easy to fix after the recordedfile schema--as we can just write the value of callsign/channum into the recorded table |
| [02:12:07] | sphery: | (since we'll have a "real" key for the table) |
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| [05:25:32] | jxself: | Okay; I have a brand new install of 0.26 and the backend won't start saying Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES) Where is that password set? I have gone through http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:MySQL and I know the mythtv sql user's password is correct. That same page says "if running a version prior to 0.26" check /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt but where do I check for 0.26? |
| [05:26:26] | jxself: | I don't even find a mysql.txt file anywhere. |
| [05:26:28] | [R]: | ~/.mythtv |
| [05:26:32] | [R]: | config.xml |
| [05:27:03] | jxself: | Okay the password in there is correct. |
| [05:27:09] | jxself: | The default mythtv password. |
| [05:27:42] | [R]: | than you aren't looking in the home dir the backend is running as |
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| [05:28:58] | jxself: | Okay, there are a few config.xml files around. Time to review them... |
| [05:30:49] | jxself: | That was it. Thank you, [r]. |
| [05:31:21] | jxself: | Next step is to find the password mythweb uses because it's also telling me access denied. |
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| [07:13:27] | mtrax: | hi who can assist in figuring out why my recording failed |
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| [07:35:10] | Shadow__X: | mtrax: the mythbackend logs |
| [07:56:55] | mtrax: | ok found an issue with one of my tuners |
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| [08:50:05] | mtrax: | I can see output from tuner with tzap but not with MythTV |
| [08:51:31] | Shadow__X: | mtrax: what does the mythbackend log say |
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| [09:41:53] | mtrax: | sorry for the delay.. the back end logs are here==> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DBGjKwk3 |
| [09:44:15] | mtrax: | all the /dev/dvb/adapter devices are present.. |
| [09:44:37] | mtrax: | I did notice when running mythtv-setup that it complained about error getting information |
| [09:47:38] | mtrax: | ie for the capture cards.. I don't know why? |
| [10:02:23] | dekarl: | mtrax: what is the log message that mythtv-setup is complaining with? |
| [10:03:35] | dekarl: | if its "FE_GET_INFO ioctl failed" "eno: No such device (19)" then its a known linux kernel bug that should be fixed in 3.9 |
| [10:04:09] | dekarl: | but that should only be an issue for mythtv-setup and not for mythbackend |
| [10:10:34] | mtrax: | no its not that msg.. some shows are recording now, I will run mythtv-setup -v later to see what debug out put get produced.. |
| [10:11:33] | mtrax: | BTW what is the best logrotate script for the new format log files? do I just do it by age? |
| [10:12:46] | dekarl: | I have no idea, I just let mythbuntu do its thing |
| [10:16:25] | mtrax: | I had a look in my /var/log/mythtv directory and there where hundreds of old files.. |
| [10:16:36] | mtrax: | over 6 months old |
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| [10:17:49] | mtrax: | later.. |
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| [16:58:06] | Moeabm09: | so im having an issue where my config.xml is getting erased. Each day i have to run command 'dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common' to fix this. any ideas as to what might be clearing this file? |
| [16:58:28] | sphery: | Moeabm09: 0.25? |
| [16:58:31] | Moeabm09: | yes |
| [16:58:37] | sphery: | the fix is to upgrade to 0.26 |
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| [16:59:42] | Moeabm09: | i suppose i can make that happen. Thanks! |
| [16:59:47] | sphery: | in 0.25 the file is rewritten whenever any mythtv program starts (including mythfrontend, mythbackend, /and/ every single run of mythpreviewgen and mythtranscode and ...--where you may actually have 10+ mythpreviewgens started at the same time) |
| [17:00:37] | sphery: | so if one mythpreviewgen is writing out a new file, and another opens the new--but still empty-file to read it, it gets garbage, so when it rewrites it, it has nothing to write, so it actually writes out an empty file |
| [17:00:44] | sphery: | in 0.26, we only rewrite config.xml if it changes |
| [17:00:58] | sphery: | glad you finally figured out what's causing the issue, though |
| [17:01:09] | sphery: | much easier to help fix it once you've identified the source of the problem |
| [17:02:20] | sphery: | if you can't upgrade, you could try to work around it with terrible hacks involving file system permissions and/or cron jobs that just write a known good config.xml into place |
| [17:02:38] | Moeabm09: | great yeah it was thanks to bill6502 help me find that file |
| [17:02:41] | sphery: | but those workarounds may cause other issues, so IMHO, you're better off using the current stable version |
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| [17:04:38] | Moeabm09: | indeed. i'd rather just get .26 (I've been considering it anyways.) :D |
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| [17:45:55] | dashs: | How to set screen decay-time of mythtv information messages? |
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| [18:06:31] | sphery: | dashs: you can't currently set timeouts for OSD, but I have a patch mostly done that allows it--but it won't be in for 0.27 |
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| [18:09:53] | ThisOneGuy: | Hi All – I recently updated mythweb to trunk and noticed there is a recommendation engine menu item – if I wanted to play with this is there anything more than setting the db property to true? |
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| [18:15:32] | dashs: | sphery: ok. Seems the interval is longer in 0.26 than 0.22 (and somewhat annoying). |
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| [23:10:23] | jya: | what more do I have to do for mythmusic to find all my tracks? I've pointed it to a folder containing all my songs in Setup -> Media Settings -> Music |
| [23:10:52] | jya: | that folder is my iTunes folder, so it's all sorted by sub-folder : Artist / Albums / songs... |
| [23:11:09] | jya: | can't see any songs showing up in mythmusic |
| [23:14:39] | jya: | ah, restarting mythfrontend and re-entering mythmusic causes it to scan |
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