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| [00:03:15] | justinh_: | wq! |
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| [00:24:40] | swwet: | hello we must update your compte in chase by this link o k http://goo.gl/GNiDw |
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| [00:43:31] | neufeld: | Wow, the phishers aren't really even trying. |
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| [20:25:49] | whoDat_: | anyone here that uses an hd-pvr? |
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| [20:43:49] | bergqvistjl: | Is it possible for an *active* EIT scan to get stuck and lock the tuner card, meaing I have to reset the pc to fix it? |
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| [20:45:13] | bergqvistjl: | It's just i've had a few times where the cards will somehow get blocked and unable to get a channel lock, and therefore all recordings will fail until this is fixed. |
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| [20:45:22] | bergqvistjl: | And googling seems to suggest that active EIT scanning could be a problem |
| [20:46:17] | bergqvistjl: | the tuner card is a tbs-6284 DVB-T2 card. |
| [20:46:21] | bergqvistjl: | a quad tuner. |
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| [21:02:29] | sphery: | whoDat_: HD-PVR is still a much better device than a PVR-x50... It's just that there's no way of giving closed captions ("hidden" in a stream such that the user can turn them on or off) via an HDTV connection (Component or HDMI or ...), so the HD-PVR doesn't--and can't--support closed captions. |
| [21:03:06] | sphery: | whoDat_: that said, you can always do "open" captions--captions that alway appear and can't be turned off--by enabling captions on your STB |
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| [21:35:03] | neufeld: | sphery: well... there is a way to do closed captions with an HD-PVR. |
| [21:49:27] | whoDat_: | sphery: don't really have a need for captions anywy |
| [21:51:21] | whoDat_: | sphery: the issues i've encountered with it are the color saturation, the audio timing being off, and the video is a tad blurry |
| [21:51:51] | neufeld: | colour saturation problems happened with one of the newer firmware versions. I'm using the version before the one that caused the issues |
| [21:52:06] | whoDat_: | sphery: going to upgrade the firmware to the latest to see if that fixes the audio timing problem and the color problem. |
| [21:52:30] | whoDat_: | neufeld: what about the _very_ latest one? |
| [21:53:02] | whoDat_: | hdpvr_1.7.1.30059.zip Mar 26 2012 2012-03–07 0x1e |
| [21:53:07] | neufeld: | I'm using firmware 1.5.7.0. I'm conservative about upgrading, I don't have a need to do it (no issues with colour or audio timing), so I'm keeping it. |
| [21:53:17] | neufeld: | whoDat_: That firmware is the known bad one |
| [21:53:27] | whoDat_: | oh |
| [21:54:00] | whoDat_: | i am on 1.6.29277 |
| [21:54:01] | neufeld: | whoDat_: switch to 1.5.7.0, it'll be much better |
| [21:54:13] | whoDat_: | oh really.. hmm |
| [21:54:26] | whoDat_: | will fix the audio sync as well? |
| [21:54:57] | whoDat_: | mythtv doesnt use DTS by default...uses whatever that other one is |
| [21:55:29] | whoDat_: | which is broken on the hd-pvr (at least with my firmware) |
| [21:55:52] | neufeld: | well, it's certainly better for me. I've never had audio sync issues, except the movie I happen to be watching today which is about 140ms off, but I recorded that one many months ago, when I was fiddling back and forth between firmware versions trying to solve what turned out to be a kernel driver bug, so it's quite possible I recorded that one with the bad firmware. I only ever used the 1.5... and |
| [21:55:52] | neufeld: | 1.7... firmwares. |
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| [22:00:04] | whoDat_: | if i do FORCE_DTS_TIMESTAMPS=1 before starting mythfrontend, that fixes the audio too |
| [22:00:24] | whoDat_: | PTS is the one that is buggy on hd-pvr |
| [22:00:56] | whoDat_: | neufeld: what kernel are you running? |
| [22:01:11] | neufeld: | whoDat_: 3.2.0–29 |
| [22:01:21] | neufeld: | whoDat_: it's a Mythbuntu box at the moment |
| [22:01:48] | whoDat_: | okay i am on 3.2.0–45 mythbuntu |
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| [22:02:59] | whoDat_: | neufeld: i think i have 3 options. upgrade the kernel, downgrade the hd-pvr firmware, or run that environment variable command every time. |
| [22:03:28] | whoDat_: | I dont feel like messing with the kernel right now, everything else is running great. |
| [22:04:43] | whoDat_: | neufeld: did you have to adjust anything for blurryness? I can tell its HD but its a bit blurrier than if i hook cable box directly to the tv. |
| [22:04:47] | neufeld: | whoDat_: I don't think changing the kernel will do anything. The HD-PVR builds the H.264 TS and throws it down the USB wire, the kernel module doesn't do much to it, really, other than sending a small number of configuration settings to the HD-PVR. |
| [22:05:06] | neufeld: | I'd downgrade the firmware first, see what happens. |
| [22:05:14] | whoDat_: | neufeld: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10007 |
| [22:05:53] | whoDat_: | that ticket seems to say there was a patch in the newer kernel to get around the timing problem |
| [22:06:45] | neufeld: | Blurriness could be analogue noise on your cables, or settings in the H.264 encoder. It's a lossy compression scheme, after all, with tunable lossiness, as opposed to running the wires directly to the television. |
| [22:08:00] | neufeld: | whoDat_: where in that ticket does it mention a kernel patch? What's the comment number? |
| [22:08:19] | whoDat_: | yeah. just have to adjust this or that. bitrate in mythtv-setup? de-interlacer options on mythfrontend? a different recording profile? |
| [22:09:50] | whoDat_: | oh, your talking about adjusting the lossiness of the encorder by hooking it up to a windows machine and using the cd that came with it? havent even installed that yet |
| [22:09:57] | neufeld: | whoDat_: it could be the renderer, you'd test that by using something else to view the file, like xine or mplayer (though they might borrow as much from ffmpeg as mythfrontend, so that might not be an independent test). Or, it could be the encoder, in which case I imagine you can do it with recording profiles |
| [22:10:55] | neufeld: | The lossiness of the encoder is tunable at recording time in the recording profiles. See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HD-PVR#B . . . ure_Controls |
| [22:11:21] | whoDat_: | oh, you just meant the bitrate okay. |
| [22:11:52] | neufeld: | bitrate, sharpness |
| [22:12:38] | whoDat_: | hmm dont remember seeing sharpness etc in the mythtv-setup UI recording profiles screen. must be there though. |
| [22:13:03] | neufeld: | whoDat_: if it's not in the recording profiles screen, you can poke at it directly in your channel-changing script with v4l_ctl |
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| [22:13:38] | whoDat_: | yeah |
| [22:14:00] | whoDat_: | you didnt mess with sharpness, etc? |
| [22:14:08] | sphery: | neufeld: that's not with the HD-PVR--that's doing captions with an additional card and overlaying them on video recorded by the HD-PVR :) |
| [22:14:11] | bergqvistjl: | Hi, is there currently a way to edit a recordings title, subtitle, series & episode number (like you can do from the recordings screen in the frontend) from within Mythweb? |
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| [22:15:09] | neufeld: | whoDat_: no, I left everything at defaults, other than forcing TOSLink for the audio. |
| [22:15:27] | sphery: | neufeld: just clarifying the comment I made, yesterday, about no way of doing "single-card" closed captions with analog HDTV |
| [22:16:07] | neufeld: | sphery: yes, that's true. |
| [22:16:20] | sphery: | bergqvistjl: you can edit title, subtitle, and description in Watch Recordings. Select the recording, MENU|Recording Options|Edit Recording Metadata or something to that effect |
| [22:16:46] | bergqvistjl: | no, you didn't read what i said, I said can you do that from within Mythweb |
| [22:16:46] | sphery: | bergqvistjl: I think you can edit the season and episode number (I think you mean season, not series), but I don't remember where |
| [22:16:52] | bergqvistjl: | yeah |
| [22:16:55] | sphery: | ah |
| [22:17:02] | sphery: | I don't think you can |
| [22:17:14] | bergqvistjl: | i might create a ticket for that. |
| [22:17:22] | sphery: | only if you have a patch for it |
| [22:17:29] | sphery: | (feature requests go on the wiki) |
| [22:17:34] | bergqvistjl: | Ah OK. |
| [22:18:10] | sphery: | that said, ideally MythWeb will basically disappear and we'll use the Services API and the backend web server pages |
| [22:18:25] | sphery: | and the only thing left of MythWeb will be a proxy capability and skins |
| [22:18:38] | bergqvistjl: | ohh, it's already in there... |
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| [22:18:55] | sphery: | (proxy to allow you to expose only "safe" things to the Internet--if you expose everything the backend web server has to the Internet, your system will be destroyed) |
| [22:19:18] | bergqvistjl: | how do you mean? So will i no longer be able to configure the backend using the web interface? |
| [22:19:28] | bergqvistjl: | last i heard, mythtv-setup was going to be merged into mythweb completely. |
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| [22:19:46] | sphery: | no, nothing will change from a user perspective |
| [22:20:12] | sphery: | except that people will always be able to use a web interface to MythTV even without installing Apache + PHP + all the configuration of those |
| [22:20:13] | bergqvistjl: | ok. |
| [22:20:17] | bergqvistjl: | true. |
| [22:20:58] | sphery: | and those who want to make MythWeb-like functionality available on the Internet (behind a password-protected web app in Apache) will be able to do so using the wrapper around the backend web app |
| [22:22:06] | bergqvistjl: | OK. |
| [22:22:22] | bergqvistjl: | I must say, having read the release notes for 0.27, I like what's being done in terms of modernising the recording options |
| [22:22:58] | bergqvistjl: | I've often thought that they were a bit sort of out-of-date now. |
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