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Monday, May 20th, 2013, 00:16 UTC
[00:16:31] Shadow__X: wagnerrp: I am still able to record through firewire but will agree something like cablecard is way more reliable and even cheaper to record non premiums
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[05:33:18] blarney: I keep getting "Database error was:
[05:33:18] blarney: Column 'sistandard' cannot be null"
[05:33:29] blarney: when using mythtv-setup
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[05:34:02] blarney: no channels get added, i am using mythtv-setup-0.26.0–8
[05:34:30] blarney: latest fixes/0.26, v0.26.0-149-g5f45c0b
[05:34:57] blarney: it seems very similar to this bug: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10553
[05:35:26] blarney: any workarounds? is there a way to completely delete the MySQL database and start fresh
[05:35:27] blarney: ?
[05:36:40] blarney: I have managed to use w_scan and azap (I have a ATSC card: HVR-2500 Hauppauge) and have succesfully cat the output to a file, so I know my card drivers are working
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[07:24:29] Gumby: hi all. my guide data brought in via eit looks correct in the database however mythtv seems to be reading it as UTC (7hrs difference). is there something obvious I am missing? my timezone is correct on the pc.
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[09:58:48] dekarl: Gumby: looks like we need a fixups for your provider, can you post a dvbsnoop capture of the TDT/TOT tables, an EIT event together with the real starting time, your location/timezone, and the SDT of all frequencies/channels that need the fixup? I am guessing that your provider is transmitting local time instead of the mandatory UTC.
[10:00:24] dekarl: http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/examples/example-tot_tdt.html http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/examples/example-eit.html http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/examples/example-sdt.html
[10:01:16] dekarl: please check the TDT/TOT first and if my guess is right put all the captures into a ticket together with the information which provider/country that is
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[10:53:44] damo22: i have an old version of ubuntu 10.10 with mythtv on it, i want to back up my config and install a clean system, which files do i need
[10:54:26] damo22: s/config/mythtv config
[10:56:31] wagnerrp: you really only need the database, and the recordings themselves
[10:56:57] damo22: from memory i did a custom lirc config
[10:57:12] damo22: but i dont remember what i did
[10:59:37] damo22: is there much difference between the current version and 0.23
[11:00:21] wagnerrp: then you also need ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[11:00:41] damo22: ahh thx
[11:02:55] damo22: is there some sort of plugin that allows a usb stick or ithing to plug in the usb port and view photos?
[11:03:07] wagnerrp: mythgallery
[11:03:21] damo22: cool
[11:03:54] damo22: does it also store the photos as a backup and keep them organised?
[11:05:39] wagnerrp: no, it is purely a file viewer
[11:06:45] damo22: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythGallery#Importing_Pictures
[11:07:42] wagnerrp: huh, i guess it can
[11:08:01] damo22: im just sick of being the family tech i want to set up a media server that handles all that shit
[11:08:16] wagnerrp: please watch the language
[11:08:16] damo22: haha
[11:08:21] damo22: sorry
[11:09:45] ** wagnerrp goes to work **
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[13:16:37] ecbo: Heyho, I'm new in using mythtv and would need some help concerning configuration of mythtv-backend (channels.conf or scanning for tv-stations)
[13:18:31] ecbo: I read dozen of wikis, forum-pages, etc... but found no solution
[13:19:15] lautriv: ecbo, what tuners ?
[13:19:34] ecbo: it's a Technotrend TT-connect CT-3650 DVB-C USB
[13:20:10] ecbo: I'm from germany, using DVB-C , Ubuntu 11.10 and a mythtv installation (no mythbuntu)
[13:20:19] lautriv: ecbo, so cable ...... and the issue ?
[13:20:44] ecbo: I cannot import a channels.conf or do successfully a scan
[13:22:09] ecbo: yesterday a guy (dekarl) told me, that the that channels.conf import has been broken for some time now
[13:22:11] lautriv: ecbo, channels.conf is broken since hmm ever ? but scannibg should work, what happens on the respective screen ?
[13:22:19] ecbo: a right
[13:22:38] ecbo: what is scannibg (I'm totally new to mythtv stuff)
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[13:24:05] ecbo: I see you're from germany, so we can switch to deutsch? ;)
[13:26:24] lautriv: ecbo, scannibg is a simple typo from scanning, i have a wireless keyboard and a very noisy environment.
[13:26:45] ecbo: ah ok *g*
[13:27:04] ecbo: I'm now infront my ubuntu server and in mythtv-setup
[13:28:03] lautriv: ecbo, first thing : set up a device
[13:28:09] ecbo: is done
[13:28:39] lautriv: next : link it to a source
[13:28:49] ecbo: is also done
[13:28:55] ecbo: but i check it
[13:29:48] ecbo: capture cards is done, video sources is done, 4. input connections is also done
[13:30:13] lautriv: from here we differ because i use DVB-S2, there i set a base-frequency and main-transponder and start a scan .... no idea what cable has.
[13:31:08] ecbo: dekarl yesterday told me, to scanning one manually (with all details) enter transport and letting mythtv learn about the other transports from there
[13:31:25] ecbo: but I don't know how to do this in detail
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[13:32:11] ecbo: in the past I did a scan with the external wscan or scan from the dvb-utils package
[13:32:27] ecbo: but this doesn't help me
[13:32:37] lautriv: the transport will be found on certain sites on the net
[13:33:16] ecbo: what is the transport exactly?
[13:33:34] ecbo: the frequency of some sender?
[13:34:09] ecbo: I'm now in the scan configuration and can configure a full scan (tuned)
[13:35:51] lautriv: ecbo, the digital world of tv is organized in clusters, a transponder is a bunch of channels often referring to the next one (neighbour)
[13:36:06] ecbo: ah ok
[13:36:08] lautriv: http://www.kabelfernsehen.org/empfangsgeraete/dvb-c/ may have your params.
[13:36:45] ecbo: http://helpdesk.kdgforum.de/sendb/belegung-197.html
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[13:36:55] ecbo: sounds like my posted page
[13:38:47] ecbo: I assume ,that S24 is such a bunch
[13:39:03] lautriv: nope
[13:39:24] lautriv: select digital und unverschlüsselt, also expertenmodus
[13:39:55] lautriv: then have a look at TPID
[13:41:36] lautriv: i have to go, will be back in approx. 3h
[13:41:48] ecbo: ah ok, thanks
[13:44:49] dekarl: ecbo: did this work? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Setting_up_DVB-C_(cable)
[13:45:14] ecbo: hey
[13:45:55] ecbo: one moment I check your link
[13:47:27] dekarl: knowing which provider it is would be good, too. as with DVB-C many have a broken network that is just "good enough" for their own STB
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[13:47:41] ecbo: STB?
[13:47:58] dekarl: set-top-box
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[13:48:44] ecbo: i have the providers information found here: http://helpdesk.kdgforum.de/sendb/belegung-197.html
[13:49:11] ecbo: and I configure a full scan (tuned)
[13:51:36] ecbo: I can put in the parameters for one sender: Frequency in Hz=338000000, Symbolrate=6900000, Modulation =QAM 256
[13:53:26] ecbo: this are the parameters for one channel. mythtv found about 50 channels :-)
[13:53:34] dekarl: sounds good. maybe you need to add more parameters, depending on your hardware (some devices/drivers don't like to autodetect some parameters)
[13:53:40] dekarl: ok, so it worked :)
[13:53:53] ecbo: what can I do to find more or all available channels?
[13:54:45] ecbo: I assume, I did it successful for one branch, like S25 on this page:
[13:54:53] ecbo: http://helpdesk.kdgforum.de/sendb/belegung-197.html
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[14:11:47] dekarl: ecbo: you can scan the frequency of the missing channels, but 50 doesn't sound so bad after looking at the link
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[15:47:23] wangel: hello everyone. Has anyone ever noticed ... high cpu usage on the backend?
[15:47:54] wangel: I've built a dedicated backend, it's an amd II 640, 8 gigs of ram, and has a generic (8400 GS) video card. It's purely a backend only
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[15:48:28] wangel: I have 2 frontends ... if I stop and restart the backened service, cpu usage is usally at about 3%. After a few hours, I've been it jump to 60% with 1 backend
[15:48:58] wangel: if I add in the 2nd backend, the usage goes way up to 110%+ and the video buffers and acts silly. I can stop and restart the backend service and everything is fine.
[15:49:02] wangel: it's wierd
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[16:11:21] ecbo: hello again. I need one more a litle bit help, I'm little bit confused how to continue afer successful channel scanning with DVB-C
[16:13:39] ecbo: and with exiting the mythtv-setup I got a message saying: "Card 1 (type DVBInput) is set to start on channel Please add, which does not exist."
[16:14:52] sphery: ecbo: after you scan for channels, they get added to your database, then you need to select one of them for the starting channel
[16:15:25] ecbo: ah , thanks. I think I found it, where to set this starting channel
[16:15:29] sphery: the "Please add, ..." is the message that's shown in the select box you need to use to select the channel
[16:15:38] sphery: yeah, I think it's in input connections
[16:15:39] ecbo: after this I fill the database with new information.
[16:16:04] ecbo: is there more to do after this? I installed the frontend also and will test it
[16:16:17] sphery: right, mythfilldatabase (if you're using XMLTV or Schedules Direct) or start the backend and let EIT collection do its job if using EIT
[16:16:35] sphery: you need to configure all the stuff in mythtv-setup
[16:16:55] sphery: capture cards, video sources, input connections, storage directories, as well as general settings--at minimum
[16:17:04] ecbo: not so quick, I try to understand all the stuff ;)
[16:17:07] sphery: channels should be done automatically when scanning
[16:17:49] ecbo: I set the general settings
[16:18:18] ecbo: I set the capture card (one DVB-C Card)
[16:18:55] ecbo: "/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0"
[16:19:52] ecbo: I have an entry in Video Sources: DVB-C with Listings grabber: Transmitted guide only (EIT) //I'm from germany
[16:20:54] ecbo: the input connecctions are set , I assume correctly and with an existing starting channel
[16:21:23] sphery: then storage directories
[16:21:36] ecbo: one previous step:
[16:21:42] sphery: then you should be good to shut down mythtv-setup and start mythbackend
[16:21:43] ecbo: my scanning results show:
[16:21:57] ecbo: about 50 channels
[16:22:19] ecbo: but only 4 or 5 with a channel number.
[16:22:38] sphery: ah, then you will need to go through (and clean up) your channels in the mythtv-setup channel editor
[16:22:45] ecbo: I see the name of the channel like 3sat and DVB-C
[16:23:07] sphery: they all need a channel number (unique among channels on the video source)
[16:23:24] ecbo: ok, I supposed something like this
[16:23:31] sphery: note, also, that some may not be usable channels (in which case you'll need to delete them)
[16:23:50] sphery: just highlight the channel in the mythtv-setup channel editor and hit DELETE (defaults to D) to delete it
[16:23:55] ecbo: what does this mean , "not be usable channels"?
[16:24:18] ecbo: these are all channels which really exist in our TV here
[16:24:20] sphery: encrypted channels for which you don't have a subscription/hardware cam
[16:24:37] sphery: or channels that aren't actually there, but looked like they might be there by the channel scanner
[16:24:40] sphery: or ...
[16:24:50] ecbo: ah ok, all channels are not encrypted
[16:25:04] sphery: basically just saying "check the channels in Live TV once you start the backend and fix anything the scanner got wrong"
[16:25:08] ecbo: normally a channel number has 2 digits
[16:25:21] sphery: in mythtv channel number is whatever you want to use
[16:25:24] ecbo: but some have strange 5 digits
[16:25:55] sphery: it's meant to be used only as a display item and as a means of allowing you to change directly to a channel during live tv by typing the number
[16:26:30] sphery: so even if your provider uses channel numbers like 12345 or whatever, you can use your own channel numbers like 1 and 2 and ...
[16:26:45] sphery: edit the 2 it filled in to the values you want
[16:26:51] sphery: and create values you want for the others
[16:27:53] ecbo: ok, and how can I tell them myth to use all found channels, because after exiting the mythtv-setup and starting the frontend I get no live-TV or something else
[16:28:24] sphery: it uses any channels that are available to it
[16:28:24] ecbo: I think , there is some small piece missing in my config :(
[16:28:32] sphery: meaning if you can't access those channels, your config is broken
[16:28:44] sphery: what, specifically, is broken is the tough question
[16:29:00] sphery: you can get brokenness when you do multiple channel scans on the video source
[16:29:05] ecbo: I could send you the backend.log maybe
[16:29:10] sphery: or through other "trial and error" configuration approaches
[16:29:20] ecbo: there was only one scan today
[16:29:26] sphery: so, IMHO, you should hammer on things until you think you understand the configuration approach
[16:29:29] ecbo: hmmm :-/
[16:29:41] ecbo: yes
[16:29:44] sphery: then go through and clear out the entire configuration and do it over
[16:30:04] sphery: you clear it by going into Video Sources and selecting "Delete all video sources"
[16:30:27] sphery: and then gonig into Capture Cards and selecting "Delete all capture cards" (and /not/ "Delete all capture cards on <hostname>")
[16:30:36] sphery: then just reconfigure from scratch
[16:30:43] sphery: and if you do it properly, everything will work
[16:31:08] sphery: usually when you try to configure and you do something wrong and then you figure out what you did wrong, you still have brokenness in your configuration
[16:31:19] ecbo: ok, and is there anything important to consider concerning the storage directories?
[16:32:02] sphery: and redoing it right doesn't erase the brokenness (mainly because we can't know that what's in there is broken--even if the channel doesn't appear on a new channel scan or whatever)
[16:32:31] sphery: so clearing it all out and doing a "single stage to configured" approach once you understand the process is the best approach
[16:32:54] sphery: for Storage Directories, you should probably have a single Storage Group specified for TV and called "Default"
[16:33:10] sphery: it will be defined automatically and used by all your recording rules by default
[16:33:22] sphery: you simply have to specify a list of directories to use for the Storage Group
[16:33:43] sphery: those directories can exist on any file system on any host in your MythTV setup
[16:33:50] sphery: but they should /only/ be specified on the master backend
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[16:34:15] sphery: and you should /never/ specify a directory that's the root of any file system
[16:35:04] ecbo: ok, and you said, "not to delete all capture cards on hostname"? why? whats the difference to "delete all capture cards"?
[16:35:04] sphery: if you do, that directory exists even if the file system isn't mounted (i.e. the mount point directory on the parent file system will still be there) and MythTV will use it, so it could result in filling up the parent file system if you have file system mounting issues later
[16:35:27] sphery: or could result in recordings getting "hidden" behind a mount if you run for a while with and without the file system mounted
[16:35:38] sphery: Delete all capture cards deletes everything
[16:35:53] ecbo: ah ok
[16:35:58] sphery: Delete all capture cards on <hostname> deletes less information (even if there's only one host)
[16:36:16] sphery: in other words Delete all capture cards clears out /everything/ related to capture cards
[16:36:33] sphery: so you need it for the "start fresh" approach
[16:37:28] ecbo: ok, I will try it. Hope this works
[16:37:47] sphery: good luck
[16:37:50] ecbo: and what is with the database?
[16:37:58] ecbo: the information in it?
[16:38:14] ecbo: they will delete as well?
[16:38:29] sphery: all configuration and all recording/video (and plugin) data except the actual video files exists in the database
[16:38:41] sphery: this approach only deletes the backend configuration part of the database information
[16:39:06] sphery: specifically the card/video source/input connection/channel portion of the backend configuration
[16:40:14] ecbo: ok, thanks a lot
[16:40:41] ecbo: the whole stuff is a little bit confusing for myth-beginners
[16:43:11] sphery: yes, MythTV is a great hobby
[16:43:22] sphery: and, if you spend enough time on that hobby, you may end up with a nice DVR, too
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[16:43:37] sphery: those who think "MythTV is a free DVR" are terribly wrong about it
[16:44:57] sphery: it's Free (as in F/LOSS), but it's far from free (as the hardware cost is much higher than renting a DVR from your cable/satellite provider--and the amount of time it takes to learn it and maintain it is huge in comparison to a packaged consumer-friendly DVR)
[16:47:11] sphery: but if done right, you may just end up with a nice system with 12TB of 13.75TB of storage used for holding the 2767 programs you've recorded ant not yet watched over the years (because you haven't found the 3 months 16 days 1 hr 23 mins required to watch the remaining recorded video)
[16:47:51] sphery: (so you never need to watch TV as it airs--meaning you never need to wait through commercials or get invested in a TV show only to have it cancelled after 4 episodes)
[16:48:02] sphery: because you're watching things a season or 2 behind :)
[16:52:51] sheppard: heh
[16:52:59] sheppard: I wonder how long my playlist is
[16:54:23] sphery: mythweb's "Recorded Programs" page shows you on the bottom
[16:55:10] sphery: note that it's actually giving TiB/GiB/MiB and not the TB/GB/MB it claims
[16:55:40] ecbo: ok sphery , this is my aim too, to set it up on my ubuntu 10-TB server :) I will tell you if it later works
[16:56:15] sphery: and that reminds me that I have to decide whether to buy a 3TB to add to my system since my 13.75 is mostly full and I may not have much time to watch this summer (which is when I normally clean out some space)
[16:56:31] sheppard: sphery: I have nothing in myth currently.
[16:56:37] ecbo: and this would be really great , especially I have a beamer /projecctor connected to the server :-)
[16:56:55] sphery: sheppard: ah, so you're looking for your "how much I've recorded, watched, and deleted" kind of thing?
[16:57:01] sphery: if so, check out MythWeb statistics page
[16:57:15] sheppard: sphery: naw, I have a 20T media collection outside of myth
[16:57:40] sphery: for me, I've recorded 17895 episodes of 1433 different shows--for a total of 1 year 10 months 8 days 18 hrs 24 mins of recorded video
[16:57:47] sphery: ah, OK
[16:57:51] sheppard: nice stats :)
[16:58:14] sphery: actually kind of depressing... that's a lot of TV in 9 years 16 days 14 hrs 41 mins
[16:58:42] sheppard: can I mess around in myth control center while mythfilldatabase is running?
[16:58:47] sphery: granted, I have 3 1/2 months I haven't yet watched--and I've recorded a /lot/ of tv and deleted without watching because the series was cancelled or got terrible reviews or whatever
[16:59:02] sphery: but, wow, imagine how much I could have improved MythTV if I didn't waste time watching all that TV...
[16:59:21] sheppard: sphery: all work and no play makes sphery a dull boy
[17:00:20] sphery: sheppard: not sure... as far as mythtv stuff goes, it should be ok, but it's not really ideal to stop--or start--mythbackend during a mythfilldatabase run (though you can run mfdb while mythbackend is running)
[17:00:40] sphery: but I'm not sure what all myth control center does since that's ubuntu's configuration layer on top of mythtv
[17:00:50] sheppard: alright, I'll just go grab breakfast while this is running
[17:00:59] sphery: and, yeah, probably good that I had some mindless time in those 9 years :)
[17:01:05] sheppard: maybe when I come back I'll have channels
[17:01:06] dekarl: is Nikita any good? starts in two weeks over here ^^
[17:01:15] sphery: dekarl: I like it, but it's not great
[17:01:27] sphery: it had potential, but didn't get much love
[17:02:00] dekarl: ok, so I'll put it on the list for the scheduler to automatically record (and likely automatically delete unwatched) just as that user on the mailing list should have done :D
[17:02:00] sphery: (though a lot of CW shows have the same issue, but turn out really good--like Supernatural (OK, really good is an understatement on that one) and even Smallville)
[17:02:18] sphery: Yeah, I'd say it's definitely worth recording and checking it out to see if you want to watch it
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[18:22:59] MTughan: We're trying to set up a new MythTV box here. We've got recording and playing working, but we're working on transcoding now and encountering a problem with audio. If a recording has AC3 audio rather than MP2 audio, the audio is lost after a transcode. We're running MythTV 0.26. Is there any way to fix this?
[18:23:21] MTughan: Actually, one more thing: it's not just a transcode, but a transcode with a cut list that causes the problem.
[18:23:31] dekarl: MTughan: which is the exact version?
[18:23:52] MTughan: mythbackend --version: MythTV Version : v0.26.0-164-gd1a4831
[18:24:22] dekarl: hmm, and can you pastebin the log from one mythtranscode run? (looking for the PMT / stream list)
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[18:25:19] MTughan: Okay, just need to let this transcode finish and I'll paste it up.
[18:26:13] dekarl: MTughan: hmm, the version should be good in principle, it is newer then https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/61174 . . . 9f9dad7e4610 which not allow the transcode to finish anyway.
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[18:30:12] MTughan: dekarl: Here you go. http://pastebin.com/mLfuQDZf
[18:31:15] MTughan: And actually, this one does have sound... so maybe that's not an accurate log.
[18:32:14] dekarl: its missing a -v SOMETHING anyway (the list of streams is not there, need to look up which one that is)
[18:33:17] MTughan: We're (my dad and I) wondering if it's because we transcoded this one already. We're going to try one that hasn't been transcoded before.
[18:33:34] MTughan: Notice the source for this one is a .nuv file as compared to a .mpg.
[18:33:38] dekarl: MTughan: seems like its "-v record" that adds the information
[18:34:32] dekarl: hmm, that cought my eye already. you mean its actually a Nuppelvideo file from a frame grabber and not just a random file extension for a mpeg2 transport stream?
[18:34:53] MTughan: No, because we had transcoded this file previously without a cutlist. That may make a difference.
[18:35:20] dekarl: hmm, I only use lossless mpeg2 cutting.
[18:35:29] MTughan: All of our tuners are either hardware MP2 encoders or ATSC tuners.
[18:42:21] wizbit: i just tried to remotely upgrade my friends mythbox but the log says
[18:42:22] wizbit: 'This application expects to be running a locale that specifies a'
[18:43:08] wizbit: i http://dpaste.com/1192386/plain/
[18:43:48] dekarl: MTughan: I don't know the transcode to/from NUV, but would suggest against using it :)
[18:44:08] MTughan: dekarl: How can we change that?
[18:46:55] dekarl: change it to the lossless transcode at "mythfrontend -> utilities/setup -> TV Settings --> recording Profiles -> Transcoders." (quoting from http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Removing_Commercials)
[18:47:20] dekarl: if you call mythtranscode manually you can simply add --mpeg2 to the command line
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[18:49:03] lautriv: ecbo, got some stations ?
[18:52:35] dekarl: MTughan: mythtv-setup -> recording profiles -> transcoders -> autodetect from mpeg2 -> lossless transcode...
[18:52:46] MTughan: dekarl: Yeah, we just set that, thanks.
[18:52:50] dekarl: ^- just tried it on master
[18:52:54] sheppard: weeeee, got my cap card capping
[18:52:56] MTughan: Trying another transcode now to see what it does.
[18:53:34] dekarl: MTughan: the interesting part would be with "-v record" and from a mpeg2 recording :)
[18:55:20] MTughan: dekarl: That seems to work, but there seems to be something weird going on with playback now. The audio's there, but it doesn't start playing until about 8 seconds after playback starts.
[18:57:06] MTughan: But at least that's taken care of now. We'll take a look at the audio later on.
[18:57:20] dekarl: i remember seeing the audio issue, too :(
[18:57:26] MTughan: Just one more error that was there before. Know what this is about? "E CoreContext audio/audiopulsehandler.cpp:262 (Init) Pulse: Context not ready after 1000ms"
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[18:58:18] dekarl: squashing one bug after another :)
[18:59:52] dekarl: MTughan: I'm not sure what it means, but its not only you seeing it http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /339169.html
[19:00:10] dekarl: why would mythtranscode care about pulseaudio? its not making noise...
[19:00:41] MTughan: I'm not sure if it's pulseaudio. It says audio pulse handler, which sounds more like some kind of heartbeat or something.
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[19:04:59] MTughan: Cuts definitely work as expected though, which is more than we could say than before.
[19:07:32] MTughan: dekarl: BTW, I think this is what you were looking for: http://pastebin.com/MMPL637v
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[19:20:11] sheppard: anyone happen to know is 16.5mbit is the highest a hd-pvr can record at?
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[19:37:57] dekarl: MTughan: close, I was thinking you're using lossless transcode and its not recognizing a stream as audio... with -v record it outputs the original PMT and the PMT with only the streams it keeps.
[19:38:29] MTughan: Well the audio is being kept now. Just a playback issue to take care of at this point.
[19:39:21] MTughan: Initial impressions seem to be that we have this issue with 1080i files with 6-channel AC3 audio where we cut a bit off the beginning, but I don't think we've been able to prove it yet.
[19:40:00] MTughan: Playing the file using VLC on my computer over SMB works fine, so it's just on our frontend.
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[20:00:03] MTughan: In regards to that playback issue, I'm noticing one line in the frontend logs that comes up when it happens, and no other time. Any idea what this might mean? "W Decoder avformatdecoder.cpp:4535 (GetFrame) AFD: Audio 39446282 ms behind video but already 220 video frames queued. AV-Sync might be broken."
[20:00:22] MTughan: Google has a couple hits, all related to MythTV, but most seem to be related to DVD playback and not local file playback.
[20:04:14] lautriv: MTughan, i assume this happens rather seldom or from a specific channel ?
[20:04:46] MTughan: lautriv: I don't know if it's from a specific channel only (we don't have enough data on it yet), but it is consistent with a recording.
[20:05:28] MTughan: And it has only occurred with 1080p recordings with 6-channel audio where we have done a lossless transcode while cutting some time off from the beginning of the file.
[20:05:36] MTughan: Sorry, 1080i recordings.
[20:06:03] lautriv: MTughan, sounds like you are just out of sync, mencoder could probably fix this.
[20:06:43] MTughan: lautriv: The audio is fine. It plays back as expected using VLC on another computer. I could try mplayer if you'd like.
[20:07:34] lautriv: MTughan, isn't mplayer the default on your frontend ?
[20:07:48] MTughan: How would I check that?
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[20:08:41] lautriv: MTughan, there is some setting in the deepness of configuration about what player for what extension, alo possible to change options.
[20:10:47] MTughan: Know whereabouts that would be?
[20:12:30] MTughan: Oh, this is for recordings BTW, not external video files. I think I just found what you mentioned, but it looks to just be for other videos.
[20:14:12] lautriv: that may be, it's a while ago when i was there.
[20:14:36] MTughan: And mplayer on the frontend box without using mythfrontend works as expected.
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[22:00:33] wagnerrp: wangel: you should only be seeing CPU loads that high if you are doing some kind of batch processing
[22:00:47] wagnerrp: commercial flagging, transcoding, etc...
[22:00:53] wagnerrp: and those will be run in a separate process to mythbackend
[22:01:11] wagnerrp: the only intensive process mythbackend does (assuming digital tuners or hardware encoders) is the scheduler runs
[22:01:29] wagnerrp: and if that takes more than a minute or so, you're going to be running into problems
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[22:26:37] Tobbe5178: what do this mean:
[22:26:38] Tobbe5178: Warning at /var/www/html/MythWeb/modules/tv/upcoming.php, line 91:
[22:26:38] Tobbe5178: !!NoTrans: Invalid argument supplied for foreach()!!
[22:27:01] Tobbe5178: and then a blank page (the upcoming)
[22:27:19] Tobbe5178: mostly blank, no upcoming recordings is listed
[22:31:05] Tobbe5178: never mind, it works now, not sure why
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[23:40:50] dashs: adding new hdhomerun box: bring both boxes to highest firmware level?
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[23:48:01] Russ: does anyone have a script or something to automatically re-record SD recordings in HD?
[23:55:19] sphery: Russ: custom recording rule editor has an example called, "Re-record SDTV in HDTV (disable duplicate matching)", and based on its name, I'm guessing it's something like what you want
[23:55:31] sphery: (where something like means "exactly")
[23:55:36] Russ: cool
[23:55:37] Russ: thanks
[23:56:41] sphery: frontend, Manage Recordings|Schedule Recordings|Custom Record
[23:57:03] sphery: you'll likely want to use at least one other clause to limit it, too
[23:57:27] sphery: and note that it relies 100% on guide data--so if your listings are wrong, it won't do the right thing
[23:57:41] sphery: (that means listings for existing recordings as well as listings for the future ones)

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